Let’s recap today’s titanic struggle….

FINAL
San Diego 5
Cincinnati 0
WP: LeBlanc (1-0)
LP: Cueto (0-1)
BOX SCORE

POSITIVES
–LOL. ROTFL. LMAO. You want positives?

NEGATIVES
–TOS*.

–How about some Greatest Hits from today’s game story:

LeBlanc retired Cincinnati’s first eight batters before Cueto popped up a bunt that fell between the mound and first base for a hit. Drew Stubbs followed with an infield single, but Cueto — anticipating an out — wandered off second base and was tagged out.

That was the first of three Reds to make baserunning errors. Brandon Phillips ended the fourth inning and Jonny Gomes the fifth by being caught stealing, LeBlanc to first baseman Gonzalez to second baseman David Eckstein.

You want more?

Stubbs, Cincinnati’s center fielder, caught Kyle Blanks’ routine fly ball and threw it into the stands, even though it was only the second out of the sixth inning. Nobody was on base at the time.

–Four hits. Four hits. One of those hits was by Cueto, the pitcher. The only extra-base hit was by a guy who didn’t start, Ryan Hanigan. Sheesh.

ETC.
–This team is a complete and utter disaster. Period.

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*This Offense Stinks.

35 Responses

  1. Kevin Mitchell is Batman

    Not a huge fan of the new format, so I’ve not been posting for awhile…

    that said, this game deserves a post. Complete, utter disdain for the basics of baseball falls directly on the manager. There are plenty of teams in the majors that aren’t good and aren’t going to be good, but the least those teams can do is play hard, and play smart. This team does neither, and it can’t simply be blamed on youth. The 2 pickoffs were on Gomes and Phillips…experienced, multi-team veterans.

    I don’t know what to do to fix this team. I’m not sure firing the manager is the answer to our woes. What I do know is that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, and this club continues to place emphasis on archane parts of the game while not empasizing certain extremely important aspects (ahem, OBP).

    A shakeup is more than needed, more than justified, it’s imperative. Whether it’s giving Heisey a shot and shipping Stubbs down, sending Harang to the bullpen, or DFA’ing Hernandez and giving Hanigan the go-ahead, something must be done.

    The Reds organization better hope the weather forecast for the next few days is wrong…speaking for myself, if I check the radar and there’s at least a 10% chance of rain, there’s no way in hell I’m heading to the ballpark. I hope, and assume, I’m not the only one with those sentiments.

  2. lukeukcrazy

    Padres 8th straight win, we’re in big trouble.

  3. earl

    Marty lit into them a couple times on the radio. After Gomes got picked off he said something to the effect “doesn’t anyone on this club know how to play this game”.

    I guess a positive is that Dusty’s reign is getting closer to being over, not that axeing him is a guarantee of improvement.

  4. Barnes

    I like the format, it just looks better.
    Fire Dusty, Price, Jacoby. Bring up Sweet, M. Soto, and anybody. There is too much talent in this organization for these results to pass. Those in charge of motivating and deploying that talent are ultimately responsible, and they are doing a poor job.

  5. 18to88

    Despite running an NFL blog, I hate the draft. I was desperate for something to do last night and this afternoon while following pointless 6th round picks.

    I hate how much awful baseball I was forced to watch. I finally had to just watch Mel Kiper’s hair for three hours.

    I love the Reds, but I hate this team.

  6. hoosierdad

    The announced attendance on a Saturday afternoon was 19,999. If not mistaken, I believe that is how many TICKETS were sold. I wonder how many people actually showed up. How many will keep buying tickets to see this kind of effort day after day? Folks, this is not pretty and no signs of getting any better any time soon. What do you do with about $20M of pitching that can’t get the job done? Experts would say you can’t fire the team so you fire the manager. If not now, then very soon DB’s reign will come to an end.

  7. wanderinredsfan


    Kevin Mitchell is Batman:

    A shakeup is more than needed, more than justified, it’s imperative. Whether it’s giving Heisey a shot and shipping Stubbs down, sending Harang to the bullpen, or DFA’ing Hernandez and giving Hanigan the go-ahead, something must be done.
    Reply

    I’m not sure Heisey is the answer yet, at least not until he starts putting up better numbers. He really missed a great opportunity early on, because with a hot start he could definetely be in the conversation. Right now, the only hitters in L’ville worth talking about are Valaika and Dorn, and neither are very good options at their respective positions.

    As for Hernandez, I don’t mind him on the team so long as he doesn’t get the bulk of the playing time. I’d much rather see Hanigan and Hernandez rotate behind the plate for every other game. Or, even let Hanigan take the reign for 2 out of 3, while having Hernandez on the bench. I’d like to do the same for Janish and Cabrera.

    Unfortunately, there’s really not much else Dusty can do with this mess. Yeah, he shouldn’t have Stubbs and the SS bat 1-2, and he should have Hanigan and Janish play more, but the rest falls squarely on players that should be performing better.

    The biggest mistake made this season was preparation. I don’t think the Reds prepared themselves enough in spring training, and that falls on Dusty. I just think the Reds were not ready for the season and now they continue to press and dig themselves a hole.

  8. Matt WI

    I love the sound effect for bad games. It’s a keeper, and at this rate, it will be frequent. Seriously, my daughter naps for about two hours in the afternoons, and today I wasted that precious, toddler free time listening to the game today. Relaxation my foot. On the plus side, I’m teaching her to talk about Joey Votto.

  9. mike

    tied for last place
    2nd worst record in the NL
    112 runs allowed, 2nd most in the majors
    -30 run differential

    this all with the 3rd most valuable 1B (so far this season)
    and
    a 3rd baseman who’s hit for more power than he has in years

    so Baker got “mad” after this game? funny. Why? Because there were more obvious blunders in this game? If I got to talk to Baker I’d simply say. “Dude, mellow out, they have been playing crappy baseball ALL SEASON.” followed by “and you’re just noticing now because the blunders were so obvious a 4 year old could see them?”

    then maybe we could get into a discussion about how he doesn’t ever put the best team on the field and often doesn’t put his players in positions to succeed.

    what I really wonder though is the biggest TRUE disappointment (come on we all knew Baker is a bad manager and we all knew the offense wasn’t going to be a powerhouse) has to be the implosion of the rotation. Maybe before Baker goes the pitching coach should go.

  10. mike

    it’s early in the season so you expect some players to have crazy good #s and some to have horrid #s and pretty much all of them will regress to their norms

    but something I noticed.
    So far in the major leagues there are 35 starters with ERA below 2.50. It’s early….so these 35 have gotten off to great starts.

    The Reds have 3 starters with ERA over 7
    1 over 5
    and our lowest 3.92

    how is it that we’ve gotten universally bad starts?
    6.49 ERA from our starters? ouch

  11. BJ Ruble

    The Reds have made two scrubs look like Cy Young winners. Their brand of baseball is terrible with no fundamentals, the two guys with very good fundamentals rot on the bench, one of whom almost never sees the field.

    I asked this in the game thread yesterday and will again here: When is someone going to be held accountable for the poor baseball and fundamentals? When? Likely after it is way too late. I don’t like discarding management so quickly, but come on, this is year 3 for Baker and year 4 for Jacoby. The team is getting worse at the plate and in the field.

    I just don’t understand the thinking process of the management team. This is painful to watch. The train wreck happened early this year. Last year it was the brutal July (which I called BTW), but I didn’t see it coming this early this year. It is just so disappointing in so many ways.

    One last thing, I hope Walt and Bob look at the Rockies from last year. Their team was under performing and they made a change that lead them to the playoffs. Please take note, it may help, it may not…

  12. pinson343


    earl:

    Marty lit into them a couple times on the radio. After Gomes got picked off he said something to the effect “doesn’t anyone on this club know how to play this game”.

    Reply

    Marty actually said: “Can’t anyone here play this game ?”

    This is a famous Casey Stengel quote from the year he managed the 1962 “original” Mets, a team that lost the major league record 120 games (40-120).

    Famous (at the time) NY political journalist Jimmy Breslin wrote a book about the ‘62 Mets, using that quote as the title. It was an amusing book.

    At the moment it would be sad for a Reds fan to read it, because one part of the book describes a beatings the ’62 Mets took at the hands of a talented, fundamentally sound 1962 Cincinnati Reds team, which had an outstanding manager, Freddie Hutchinson.

  13. pinson343


    Kevin Mitchell is Batman:

    Complete, utter disdain for the basics of baseball falls directly on the manager. There are plenty of teams in the majors that aren’t good and aren’t going to be good, but the least those teams can do is play hard, and play smart. This team does neither, and it can’t simply be blamed on youth.
    … this club continues to place emphasis on archane parts of the game while not empasizing certain extremely important aspects (ahem, OBP).

    Reply

    Yep. Except that as far as placing emphasis on arcane parts of the game goes, I don’t see sound fundamentals in any part of the game, so whatever it is they’re emphasizing, that’s not happening on the field either.

  14. pinson343

    Dusty’s not meeting with the media is good in that at least it shows some urgency. It’s not just a matter of losing games, it’s the overall lack of focus and execution at all levels which is unacceptable.

    Dusty knows his job is in jeopardy and presumably he’s letting the players know that no one’s job is safe (aside from a small obvious few, who are playing hard anyway). The players do like him, hopefully his anger and frustration will wake some of them up.

    This is such a total train wreck that I’m not putting all the blame on Dusty, it’s a collective failure, starting with Castellini.

  15. John

    Maybe this makes me a fair weather fan, but after 10 years of this crap, I’m not wasting any more of my time and energy getting frustrated over something I cannot control while the powers in charge do nothing to fix the problems. I’ll start caring when they start. After 10 years of following this team’s losing, I need a break. I’ve lost interest in Reds baseball. I can’t listen to the games anymore because of the revolving door of negative, nagging announcers since Joe Nuxhall passed away. I miss Joe, I miss hope, and I miss the winning. I feel like every year is just one more desperate grasp at the past. You see it every year when the losing continues and people start talking about the BRM again for the umpteenth time, like we need to be reminded that this team hasn’t been relevant since (save for 1990).

    Walt naps in his hammock while this team implodes night after night, and Dusty continues to make me think he’s deliberately trying to get himself fired. Meanwhile Uncle Bob sits wherever, memorizing more empty promises to a fanbase that just doesn’t care for the lip service anymore. Talk is cheap. He’s been quiet lately because he’s all out of bull.

    If you want fans in the seats, you need to get out of your own and do something.

  16. pinson343

    I don’t live in the Cincy area, but my guess would be that most Reds fans at this point feel the same way as John above. It shows in the attendance numbers.

  17. pinson343

    BJRuble and I simultaneously used the phrase “train wreck” about an hour ago. I guess it’s the best two word description.

  18. mike

    I’d be curious if we re-ran the poll that’s currently up there from I think (if I remember right) opening day.

    I think it was safe to guess very near .500 but I was shocked that 45% of people said over .500.
    The team is not as bad as they are playing now but they are also not at as good for anything more 1 or 2 games over .500

    I think there are only a few things to really be surprised about. As I said above. We knew the Cabrera signing was bad (well some didn’t), we knew the offense was going to be average at best, we knew we had a lot of hope and what-ifs wrapped up in some youth (Stubbs, Bruce, Bailey) and we knew Baker is a bad manager before the season started.

    the only real surprise I think is the implosion of the rotation
    1. Harang. We were HOPING he’d bounce back. Doesn’t look like he has.
    2. Arroyo…isn’t this his 4th year in a row with a bad 1st half? I’m sure he’ll pitch great in the 2nd half
    3. Cueto. A little worried about him pitching too many innings last year but a hope for a bounce back
    4. Bailey. We were hoping we’d get the new Bailey not the old….we got the old so far.
    5. Leake….none of us had any idea how he’d perform.

    they have been worse than our wildest dreams.
    I guess (to my surprise) am not as frustrated or shocked as it seems a lot of people are…..because my expectations of what was going to happen this year were low.
    Others have said it…until Dusty’s gone this team won’t do squat.

    And what if the team goes on, say a 9 game win streak. Does that make things better? Nope….their still a Dusty team. We’ll still see Cabrera in the #2 spot…we’ll still see starters pitching too many pitches….we’ll still see veterans getting the benefit of the doubt over young players and we’ll still here dumb @#$%#$ like “BB clog bases”.

    I still love watching Votto bat, Bruce bat and Hanigan and Janish play defense….but that’s about the only reason I watch. Well watching Leake pitch the other night was great…I had never seen the guy throw before so it was exciting.

    I don’t know how many of you watch other teams. I live in San Francisco so I watch the As and Giants a lot as well. Watching the last two Giants/Stl games, it’s SOOO clear those teams are in a different league than the Reds. To me…..the Reds getting to .500 doesn’t matter. Put a good team on the field and .500 comes easy….then you shoot for the real mark….600. Watching Lincecum manhandle Pujols on a night when Lincecum was having trouble with his pitches followed up by a pitchers duel between Zito and Wainwright was a painful reminder of how bad the Reds are.

  19. Furniture City Red

    I’ve been a Reds fan my whole life. Never really had a choice, my Grandfather, my dad, all my uncles – Reds Fans.

    Seeing as how I’m 36 yrs. old, I don’t really remember the “Big Red Machine” teams of the mid 70’s. So in my ‘Reds lifetime’ we’ve had 1990, a handful or so of other good years and a ton of losing seasons.

    I’m am so tired of pulling for a losing team,and real tired of “waiting til next year”. 🙁

  20. Furniture City Red

    just to be clear – I’m not dumping the Reds…heck – they’re my team, but just wish we could put a good product on the field. 🙄

  21. Furniture City Red

    Alright, so I checked – 12 winning seasons since 1980. 4 pennants.

  22. Jason1972

    I am interested in hearing whether or not the folks here who were thrilled at the Bryan Price hiring last year still feel that way. I was underwhelmed at the time and that didn’t go over too well with the resident experts, who all thought really highly of Price.

    Given the performance of the pitching staff to this point, do you guys still feel like he was a good addition? This is an honest question, not a gotchya. Is it too early to tell? Are pitchers adjusting to him still?

    I am most disappointed with the performance of the starters so far this season, although we don’t have a huge sample size by which to judge. It feels like all four of the carry over starters from last year are regressing.

  23. hoosierdad


    Furniture City Red:

    Alright, so I checked – 12 winning seasons since 1980. 4 pennants.
    Reply

    So, what you are saying is that since 1980 the REDS are 12-18 in winning seasons. I have 5 sons. 3 of them were alive in 1990, though the oldest was 5 at the time. Is it any wonder this die-hard REDS fans has 2 sons who are Cardinals fans and only 1 who gives a darn for the REDS. How sad.

  24. hoosierdad

    @hoosierdad: OK, never, EVER type something early in the morning. Otherwise your grammer and psellign is all messed up!

  25. BigRedMike

    Remember when all of baseball was making fun of the Astros and how bad they are, well, the Reds are now behind them and are sitting in last place.

    Homer needs to have a good start today. I was not as high on this rotation as others, Harang has not been good for years and Arroyo is pretty up and down.

    What does this team do well? What can they count on as their strength on a game to game basis.

    The defense is not great, we know the offense is bad, nobody gets on base, the starting pitching has been bad, and they do not play fundamental baseball.

    I guess the bullpen is pretty solid.

  26. TC

    Bryan Price has had a good career. And I do think he is an improvement over Dickie.

    Dusty Baker… like the guy, don’t trust the manager.

    The Season… While early, isn’t too early to get so far out of it that you can’t recover.

    What confuses me is that this team does not equal the sum of its parts. No matter what moves Mr. Jocketty makes there seems to always be a piece or two missing on this team. Right now there are more:

    Harang – missing
    Arroyo – hit and miss
    Cueto – missing
    Bailey – missing
    Massett – missing
    Phillips – missing his offense
    Cabrera – missing his defense
    Stubbs – missing
    Bruce – missing his offense
    Hernandez – nissing
    Gomes – hit and miss

    When 40% of your team is struggling just to be productive players in the bigs, and 6 out of 8 of your day to day players stuggling, there is a systemic problem.

  27. TC

    Mr. Jocketty… The time for overreacting is quickly passing.

  28. wanderinredsfan

    @Jason1972: Way too early. Plus, I think folks criticize pitching and batting coaches way too often for performances that are out of their control. Why don’t folks praise these coaches equally when players perform well? For instance, Why don’t we attribute Votto’s totality of success to Jacoby? Their timelines are parallel. Why aren’t folks praising Price as a positive influence on Owings’ turnaround this season? He sure looks better than I have ever seen him. The poor performances should lie on the players’ shoulders, just as much as the positive performances.

    Furthermore, I think you are way off base regarding Price as a poor hire. He is well respected for his approach, has a good track-record for such a short period of experience, and seems a lot more progressive than a lot of folks like Pole.

    Really, besides using this early season as an example; Why did you not like Price’s hire? Do you have concrete reasons that form your opinion? Was there someone else, that was available, that you would have preferred?

  29. Jason1972

    @wanderinredsfan: I am not interested in revisiting that debate. I just wondered what the current opinion was and was pretty clear that I had no other agenda in asking the question.

  30. The Big Red Train Wreck

    […] without comment, from Loyal Citizen John: Maybe this makes me a fair weather fan, but after 10 years of this crap, I’m not wasting any […]

  31. Bill Lack

    @Jason1972:

    I think it’s too early to tell. Chris Welsh doesn’t put much stock in the value of ML pitching coaches, though most that I talked to Chris, John Fay, couple other folks I talked to all thought Harang would rebound this year.

    Interesting note in today’s Enquirer on Harang, Price said he’s been only using two pitches and on the outside of the plate and he’s trying to get him to go inside more. (I think some of our folks in one of the comments section said this about Harang not going inside.)