This afternoon’s game will decide who wins the series between the two teams with red footwear. Boston grabbed the victory in yesterday’s contest, while the Reds took the opening game of the series on Friday night. Today’s first pitch between Cincinnati and the Red Sox is scheduled for 1:40pm ET.

Starting Lineup

Boston Red Sox

Cincinnati Reds

Jarren Duran – LF TJ Friedl – DH
Rob Refsnyder – DH Elly De La Cruz – SS
Tyler O’Neill – RF Jeimer Candelario – 1B
Rafael Devers – 3B Spencer Steer – LF
Connor Wong – C Tyler Stephenson – C
Romy Gonzalez – 2B Jonathan India – 2B
Dominic Smith – 1B Will Benson – RF
Ceddanne Rafaela – CF Santiago Espinal – 3B
David Hamilton – SS Stuart Fairchild – CF
Zack Kelly – RHP Nick Lodolo – LHP

Starting Pitchers

Nick Lodolo 65.1 2.76 1.01 15 70
Zack Kelly 25.2 1.75 0.94 13 27
Links: Nick Lodolo’ Stats | Zack Kelly’s Stats

Nick Lodolo

The splits this season for Lodolo aren’t that big at all. In fact, left-handed hitters have an OPS that is just 7 points lower than what right-handed hitters are hitting. Righties do get a lot more playing time, though, with only the best lefties on the other team getting the opportunity to face Lodolo. Lefties hit for next to no power against him, but in their small sample size of at-bats, are carrying a much higher average and on-base percentage against him.


RHH 219 40 8 0 6 12 56 .201 .274 .332
LHH 49 11 1 0 0 3 11 .250 .327 .273

Pitch Usage

4-seam 2-seam Slider Change
Velo 94.3 94.2 81.6 88.0
Usage 28% 27% 28% 18%

Zack Kelly

Boston is going with an opener today, sending reliever Zack Kelly to the mound to begin the game. He pitched yesterday, recording one out. This season he’s posted a 1.75 ERA in 25.2 innings and allowed just 11 hits. He has walked 13 batters, but also has 27 strikeouts.

When and Where

  • Game time: 1:40pm ET
  • Where: Great American Ball Park
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio,
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 83°, cloudy, 15% chance of rain

News and Notes

Livan Soto called up

The Reds called up infielder Livan Soto from Triple-A this morning. He’s hitting .301 for the Bats this season but is showing almost no power at all. He’s taking the place of catcher Austin Wynns, who was called up two days ago and has now been designated for assignment. You can read more about both players from our piece we published earlier.

Noelvi Marte Updates

I shared this both on my Reds minor league Patreon and at after last nights game that saw Marte go 0-5 with two strikeouts, but I’m sharing it here, too:

Noelvi Marte is 0-14 in the last three games with five strikeouts. He’s now hitting .156 without a walk in his 10 rehab games. With three more groundballs hit during the game, Marte now has a groundball rate on his rehab assignment of 59.3% (big league average is 42.5%).

Division Standings

Team W L GB
Milwaukee 44 33
St. Louis 38 37 5.0
Pittsburgh 37 39 6.5
Chicago 37 40 7.0
Cincinnati 36 40 7.5

208 Responses

  1. CincyDo

    Winning 1st game and losing the last 2 of series has been an unwanted trend. Need to change it today and have the right man on the mound to get the job done. Let’s go.

  2. RedsgettingBetter

    No Jake Fraley in the line up, so it’s just a day off? Is he hurt? Or some kind of disciplinary actions after an awful running from third yesterday?

  3. earmbrister

    Lodolo is becoming a legitimate ace – his numbers are getting ridiculous. The perfect man for getting the series win.

    • MBS

      Lodolo is either an Ace today, or nearly an Ace depending on your definition of the word Ace.

      Lodolo is our top pitcher, which some people call an Ace. I use the definition of Ace as being one of the top few pitchers in baseball. To that end Lodolo is 11th in ERA+ among all SP’s with at least 10 starts or more.

      BTW Greene is #39, and Abbott is #41

      To me that’s saying we have a #1 that can go toe to toe with any pitcher in baseball, and 2 guys that would be #2’s. That kind of pitching wins playoff series. We need to add a bat, and a closer to this roster today if possible.

      • Doug Gray

        He’s not an Ace. To be an Ace you need to be established, over more than a small sample size, as one of the best pitchers in baseball. Lodolo’s never thrown a full season’s worth of innings. He’s very good and has Ace potential, but it’s going to be a while before you can throw that label on him.

      • MBS

        @Doug, “or nearly an Ace depending on your definition of the word Ace.”

        I agree, he’s not an Ace today, but nearing it. He’s lacking the truly elite numbers. 11th best isn’t an Ace level, it’s pretty darn good though.

        As far as the time, I don’t know if I agree completely. Skeens is a fun test case to your qualifier. Over his first seven games as a MLB’er has he pitched like an Ace? Yes. Do we know if it will continue? No. If it does continue, how long do we need to wait to call him an Ace?

        Since Ace is a subjective term, the people who consider 1 player an Ace and another not yet an ace are going to vary.

      • Doug Gray

        I’d argue that to be an ace in today’s game you need to have an elite level ERA and throw 175+ innings in multiple seasons.

      • Melvin

        One might say Lodolo and Greene are both “an ACE in the making”. 🙂

  4. LDS

    Friedl as DH? Is he still slowed by the injury? Because Candelario has proven repeatedly that he should be DH’ing.

    • Melvin

      DH all the way. It doesn’t matter 3B or 1B.

      • Melvin

        Unless Friedl HAD to have a day off from the field Candy could have been the DH today.

    • Dennis Westrick

      Like the Candy Man as a hitter! As a fielder, not so much!

  5. Dennis Westrick

    Warning! I’m gonna go all philosophical to start! Funny how sports emulates life! Baseball is no exception! In life, there are opportunities and choices presented to us every day!

    Case in point, in yesterday’s game there were multiple opportunities for the Reds to expand on their early 3-0 lead. Getting 2 runners thrown out at home and a runner picked off 2nd were lost opportunities that ultimately contributed to the Reds one run loss!

    More opportunities lost include the fact that the team that currently leads the NL Central has lost 3 games in a row! Meanwhile the Reds have lost 2 of their last 3 games and 5 of their last 7 games! If instead they go 6-1, their 5 games out and one of the 3 top NL Wild card teams!

    As for choices, this current Reds organization has made the choice to be mediocre at best! Several good Reds players have been let go (traded) to other teams where they continue to be successful. Sonny Gray for example! Secondly, the Reds FO, in their infinite wisdom, decided to hire a manager with little or no previous ML managerial experience. For those that need a reminder, Mr. Bell’s winning percentage with the Reds to date is a little above .400!

    Despite all that, I am a lifelong Reds fan since 1961 and have lived thru both the good seasons and bad!

    Let’s hope Lodolo pitches today like the ace of the staff he has turned out to be!

    • LDS

      Yes, but Bell will be fifth in Reds’ games coached by the end of the season. He’ll pass Pete Rose (.525 winning pct) in a couple of days and Fred Hutchinson (.544) in roughly a month. If he completes his contract, he’ll trail only Sparky (.596) and McKechnie (.539). He’ll be the only manager in the Reds top 10 by games managed with a losing record. He’s behind Ray Knight who was given less than two seasons before he was replaced. That Bell has managed this many games is simply confirmation that the Reds favor insiders and mediocrity over actually winning baseball games.

  6. Dennis Westrick

    Nice job by Nick to escape what could have been a disastrous 1st inning!

    Score some runs please! Gotta step away and finish mowing my front yard in muggy 90-degree weather here in central Florida today!

  7. DK in Erie PA

    Sox lead the league in errors and unearned runs. Cora obviously not holding anyone accountable

  8. Beaufort Red

    How do you reward Benson’s abysmal hitting? Move him up in the lineup. Only Bell can come up with this crap.

    • Melvin

      At least everyone else in the lineup is finally over .200 now. haha

    • Mauired

      It’s not like the guys batting behind him are doing anything. Espinal has been terrible all year. Fairchild has been abysmal against righties.

      • Beaufort Red

        They don’t lead MLB in strikeout percentage. No hit ball no have chance to get hit. As he strikes out again.

      • Mauired

        Yeah the strikeouts are obviously bad but get way too much attention. Espinal never strikes out but he leads the world in 1-2 pitch infield pop-ups and weak ground outs. Outs are outs.

      • Melvin

        Actually Espinal had been doing a lot better lately in the last 15 games. Maybe “a lot” is not accurate, haha, but he has been doing better. At least he puts the ball in play more.

      • Mauired

        Yeah that’s my point. People get obsessed with the guy putting the ball on play. Yes is obviously preferable than a strikeout. But Espinal all year has “put the ball in play” but the actual result being weak infield outs after 1 to 2 pitches. And he gets credit for not striking out. Like he’s a productive part of the lineup or something.

        Not that I’m impressed with Benson this year. He’s taken a big step back so far. But most of the Reds offense has been bad to average this season.

        Candelario is the best hitter on the team this year and he’s basically had one good month.

      • Melvin

        Espinal has been hitting .267 the last 15 games. This year that’s like hitting .400. 🙂

      • Mauired

        Last 15, he’s hitting .257 with and lol on base of .257 and an unmentionable slug.

        Half the Reds offense has been abysmal. But I’m not going to give love to Espinal because he pops up instead of striking out.

  9. Melvin

    Good to see Soto finally made it up. At this point I really don’t care about the power so much. If we’ve got a runner in scoring position a base hit will usually get him in anyway. Just need a hitter. Hope he helps. His .393 OBP is needed much too.

    • JB

      Like I’ve said, I’ll take a guy who hits and gets on over a guy ( Benson) who might hit a homer every three weeks and never gets on.

    • Melvin

      Now need to see Jordan up next. He hits .300 and does have a little power to go with it. Played LF yesterday some too.

      • JB

        Never happen. If they haven’t sent Benson down yet, then it will never happen.

      • JB

        In a few more innings you can copy and paste that comment.

      • Melvin

        Probably the only reason Benson isn’t leading the league in Ks (instead of 3rd) is because he’s a platoon player and doesn’t get quite as many ABs.

      • Melvin

        “Never happen. If they haven’t sent Benson down yet, then it will never happen.”

        It might happen. The Reds are very SLOOOOOW in making changes. You know that. 🙂

  10. Mark A Verticchio

    Benson must be sent down he seldom even makes contact and why is he playing instead of Fraley?

    • Melvin

      Well Fraley makes more base running blunders. I guess you can’t make em if you’re not on base in the first place. 🙂

    • west larry

      Benson has been terrible for most of the season. Send him down to correct his swing like he did last year when they sent him down. I like Fraley better, and they have a couple of guys at AAA who might be a little better.

  11. JB

    Well at least Benson is out of the way for 8 more batters. How is that for being positive?

    • Melvin

      You found that sliver lining. Good job. 🙂 haha

  12. RedsgettingBetter

    I don’t like how this game is progressing so far..

    • Dennis Westrick

      Can’t understand why? It’s just like a bad version of the movie Groundhog Day!

      Nothing’s changed! Bad defense, poor hitting, atrocious base running, etc!

      The only positive is the Reds starting pitching and some of the bullpen pitchers!

  13. Mark A Verticchio

    Some may argue but I don’t think Fairchild, Benson or Martini belong on the roster at this time. Marte will get rid of one and Jordan should get take the place of another.

    • west larry

      I agree that Benson nor Martini should be on this club. I’ll give Fairchild a little leeway because he’s the best defender in center field. EDLC might be better, but that’s unproven to date.

  14. Gpod

    I’m sure Lodolo is sitting in the dugout thinking…..”Gotta throw a shutout to have any chance of winning”……sums up the Reds of 2024

    • Melvin

      There went the shutout. We’ll have to score three now….at least.

  15. Mark A Verticchio

    Today’s offense looks offensive.

    • Dennis Westrick

      Yep! 3 innings – 4 strikeouts!

    • Melvin

      We do have ONE hit so far. Better than none. 🙂 See JB. Silver lining. 🙂

  16. Roger Garrett

    Reds just can’t hit and continue to strike out way way too much.I will hope they can turn this around but to be honest its probably just foolish to believe they will.Sad to waste such good starting pitching but good to see Greene,Lodolo and AA take that next step this year.Young guys that will be around awhile that give us some hope for the future.

  17. Dennis Westrick

    And there it is! A walk and then a 2-run bomb by Reds Killer Wong! This game is most likely over!

  18. RedsgettingBetter

    the ugly bad call by ump to walk Devers followed by a homer…this way is the same to lose the series after have won the opener

  19. dimondfvr

    Let’s face it. We are not putting a major league caliber team on the field day after day. I don’t think any of us should be surprised at the team’s performance, because we do not have a quality bunch of players.

  20. JB

    And the theatrics of David Bell is upon us. This is exactly what I want to do when Benson strikes out.

  21. Indy Red Man

    This ones over.

    Blew back to back 3-0 leads with a veteran starter touching 98. That game yesterday….jeez? You’re also not going 27-3 when Lodolo pitches so wheres the opportunity? Cards look good. SD & Atlanta aren’t going anywhere. Our schedule gets easier on paper, but then we get easier and easier to beat on the field. On to next year

  22. Mauired

    India and Candelario competing for worst infield defenders in NL.

  23. Melvin

    David Bell tossed again. Just once I’d like to see that same fire with his players. I remember Lou going at it with Randy Myers one time right on the mound when he took him out of the game. Who can forget the “fight” with Dibble in the clubhouse? 😀

    • JB

      Yeah but just think of the Saduku puzzles Bell can get done now that he has the rest of the day off.

  24. JB

    That’s not a bad throw by India. We just need a first baseman that’s 10 feet tall.

    • Mauired

      Jac Caglianone. 6’5″ 1st Baseman available for the 2nd pick of draft. Charlie Condon 6″6″. They can also hit.

      • Melvin

        Condon can actually play some outfield too so he’s not JUST a 1st basemen which is good of course.

    • Melvin

      Yeah. See. That’s on Candy too. lol Just kidding of course. 🙂

  25. RedAlert

    Ballgame – nice throw India. Gift double play and air mails it

  26. RedsgettingBetter

    And the error always present to give up another run

  27. Melvin

    Lodolo not pitching like an ACE at the moment.

    • Hanawi

      He got screwed by a small strike zone and then poor defense. But yeah not his best outing.

  28. DHud

    Reds are mentally cooked at this point

    • Ted Alfred

      4-0 with last 2 runs thanks to India and that’s likely that. At this point I wouldn’t mind a losing streak heading into the All-Star break that forces the hand of our brain-dead ownership, so they would have no choice but to move on from David Bell. Just eat the bad contract extension and name an interim manager for the rest of the year. Then have a real search in the offseason to get a good, proven Major League manager brought here. Too many players on this team make ridiculous mistakes almost every game…yet there’s no accountability, no consequences, no nothing….other than the carefree, happy dugout and clubhouse of this under-performing losing team. Let’s not waste the next 2 years of a potentially great window of opportunity for these Reds.

  29. Ted Alfred

    Yep… they were out of the inning with only two runs and then India makes maybe the worst throw I’ve ever seen on a Taylor Made Easy double play in Major League baseball. That would have been terrible for 12U travelball…let alone the majors

  30. RedsgettingBetter

    Between Duran and Wong added to the awful baseball played by the Reds are winning the series for Boston

  31. Mauired

    Reds are pretty solid this year other than hitting, fielding, and baserunning.

  32. Mark A Verticchio

    This is a bad team period, 90 losses.

    • Ted Alfred

      My preseason prediction just before the season was 74-88…just might be pretty close.

  33. Roger Garrett

    Most of us will agree with you but when you constantly give away outs the way they do there is a bigger problem.You can gives signs not to swing or steal and you can set players that constantly make the same mistakes over and over in the field on offense or defense.Since we continue to give away outs then I have to believe we must feel since they are young they will figure it out.If so then why do we need coaches or a manager?Why not just throw out the gloves balls and bats and say lets play.

    • Hanawi

      They give up too many outs on the base paths and then turn around and give the other team extra outs with shoddy defense. With their starting pitching, if they could just clean up those two places, they could win a lot of low-scoring games.

  34. Melvin

    Alright EDLC with the leadoff double. Some reason for excitement…hope. 🙂

  35. Dennis Westrick

    This team has become an Error Machine! Now that the Bean Towners have a 4-0 lead, I can go enjoy my pool!

  36. Roger Garrett

    This game is over and Reds are cooked.Wave the flag and go home and take a nap.BIg time problems on this team for sure and enough blame to go around.

  37. JB

    Nice rope Elly. We have to do damage quickly here. Nice hit Candy. We have to do damage quickly before Benson comes up.

  38. Dennis Westrick

    Better yet, gonna switch to the PGA golf tournament! Fewer errors and fewer strikeouts!

    • JB

      Yep watching that. Might be a 6 player playoff the way it’s going.

  39. Melvin

    Alright. Double by India. Need a little two out hit here. 🙂

  40. Melvin

    Come on Besnon. We’re pulling for you.

    • Melvin

      Routine fly to RF. At least he didn’t strikeout this time. 🙂

  41. Roger Garrett

    Always hope but its wearing thin for me.

  42. RedsgettingBetter

    Benson is not helping at all… An automatic out…pathetic

  43. Gpod

    a 94 mph fastball over the plate on a 2-0 pitch…..weak fly out by Benson…..that’s all you need to know about where he is at these days

  44. Mike W

    Such a shame. He had such an easy chance in the first inning to show some life. Lodolo beat the runner to 1B, but the ump called the runner safe. We appealed the obvious error call and the call was reversed. The camera showed Bell and he didn’t even clap or do a fist pump. Why not? Is he bored? Does he care? That reversal was the difference between them having a man on and not an out, vs a man on and not an out! Anytime we get an out and prevent them from reaching base is huge! Show some emotion Mr. Bell. God knows emotion plays a big part in baseball success or failure. Show you care. Encourage and reward with your words. Plz!

    • Amarillo

      Asking Bell to show emotion in a game he was thrown out of the game? I’m confused.

  45. dimondfvr

    Not only wearing thin but it’s created a hole, like in Benson’s swing! But hey he didn’t strike out!

  46. JB

    Umpire is terrible. Where have I heard that before?

  47. JB

    Lodolo not even bothered to go over and cover first on that possible double play. Never even left the mound.

  48. Mark A Verticchio

    He hasn’t pitched well but that is a quick hook for one of your best pitchers.

    • Hanawi

      Normally I would agree but Lodolo seems to have let the bad strike zone get to him a bit. Fine with taking him out.

    • JB

      But if we don’t it’s been a great game and where else you going to go?

  49. Lee

    Lodolo probably thinks why play defense nobody else does.

    • JB

      Honestly I wouldn’t hold it against him if he does think that.

  50. Mauired

    Foul ball fly out for Espinal. Probably one of the top ten hardest balls hit for him. Dude barely gets the ball out of the infield.

  51. Melvin

    Woah. I thought he was going to try for second. Good decision Farichild.

    • JB

      Must of seen it was O’Neill out there now. I would take O’Neill in a trade. Decent average with some thump and a great arm.

      • Melvin

        He has been mentioned in threads. Problem is Boston is still in it and may want to keep him.

      • JB

        Not even for Connor Phillips,Bubba Thompson and a box of Snickers bars?

      • Mauired

        Yes he could help Reds a lot but Red Sox are winning and in the hunt. They won’t trade him.

      • Melvin

        “Not even for Connor Phillips,Bubba Thompson and a box of Snickers bars?”

        I don’t know about the Snickers. They’re might favorite candybar. 🙂

  52. dimondfvr

    Losing series after series, and so many one-run ballgames has added to the toll on the Reds ballclub. They look like a team that is not having fun, or enjoying the game of baseball.

    • Mark A Verticchio

      I thought the same thing, they look like a miserable bunch right now.

  53. Melvin

    We’ve got four more innings to get some runs. Come on guys.

  54. Mauired

    I really hope Marte can make an impact. I know he’s not hitting in Louisville but this is his spring training. If he’s anything like last year, he improves the infield defense. He improves the lineup and might lead the team in batting. And he improves the baserunning. Kinda like Friedl in his 3 phase impact on Reds. He’s basically the only hope outside a trade or two.

    • JB

      Unfortunately Marte has 3 errors in 10 games. He should fit right in if he doesn’t pick it up.

  55. Mike W

    Bell shows some emotion!
    The fans love it!
    The players appreciate it!
    Now let’s come back and win this thing and maybe, just maybe, Bell will connect the dots.

  56. JB

    Why was Candelario playing a mile off the line with a lefty up?

  57. dimondfvr

    Sonny Gray has a perfect game through five innings. 🙂 🙁

    • JB

      As soon as Sadak hears about it , it’s officially over.

    • Dennis Westrick

      Read my earlier post about Reds’ choices in trading away good players, especially pitchers, including one of my all-time favorite Reds pitchers – Sonny Gray!

  58. Hanawi

    Well, that will probably do it. Not sure the Reds have the rallies in them that they did last year.

  59. Melvin

    Things aren’t looking good this game. Down 7-1

  60. Red Thunder

    But we won the first game of the series, stop this pattern, please

    • JB

      “We aren’t going to change who we are”

  61. Mark A Verticchio

    Farmer gave up one hit, they make a two out pitching change and the game is blown wide open.

  62. Melvin

    I’m ready to try Soto for somebody. What have we got to lose?

    • Red Thunder

      Great game to see what he’s all about at this point.

  63. Daytonnati

    “Lark” wondering where Marte is going to play? Gotta be kidding, right? Everyone else is performing so well.

  64. Melvin

    Larkin – “Where will Marte play when he comes back? Espinal has done a nice job”. 🙂

    • Red Thunder

      Reds don’t like bad press, Marte gave them some. I’m wondering if he will be traded like Chapman was. Hope he brings something back that helps if it happens.

  65. Dennis Westrick

    Back after a much-needed break from this train wreck of a team! Lodolo deserved better! Still has an ERA under 3!

  66. LDS

    The Reds really want to stake their claim on last place. And tomorrow, nothing will change. Fans really. Need to start voting with their wallets. Just stay home. Make GABP look like we’re in the middle of the pandemic. Taking money out of Bob’s pocket is about all he understands

  67. Melvin

    Stephenson with the RBI. Got one back. 🙂

      • Melvin

        Stephenson is happy the scorer gave him his RBI back. 🙂

  68. Mark A Verticchio

    This week could be a nail in the coffin for this season. 36 and 41 after today. Pirates have owned the Reds and Cards are hot. I could see a 2 and 5 week, or worse, and that might firmly plant this bunch in last place. It might be where the right fully belong.

  69. Votto4life

    The Reds highlights for the rest of the year for me will be

    1). MLB Draft
    2). Trading Deadline (Reds should be sellers)
    3). Off-Season (I don’t think the Reds will be as aggressive this off-season, but maybe they will surprise us.

    I just don’t think the day to day grind will hold a lot of interest for me the rest of this season. I
    Hope I am wrong. Summer vacation followed by College Football, The NFL, as well as, concerts and FC Cincinnati will be a better way to spend entertainment dollars.

    I normally prefer attending Red’s games to most of the above activities. But Reds games have become very expensive, just to watch poorly played baseball night after night. Hopefully, the Reds will get it together in a couple of years.

  70. Melvin

    On the corners and one out. Benson Ks. No run in. smh Who wouldn’t rather have a hitter rather than a slugger up then?

    • JB

      He’s not even a slugger. He’s the human bathroom break.

  71. dimondfvr

    Leaving Benson in day after day, now in an 0-21 slide. At the very least Bell needs to give the guy some time off to help his psyche!!!

  72. Melvin

    India VERY fortunate he didn’t get thrown out at 3B. A good throw would have got him.

  73. Melvin

    Fairchild with an RBI hit. We’re alive!!! 🙂

  74. Roger Garrett

    Benson just doesn’t belong right now.I feel for him but he just doesn’t belong in the majors.He never will hit anything up in the Zone at any velocity.

    • Mauired

      Benson hasn’t been good. And many people are saying he should go to minors. Maybe he should.

      But my question is who replaces him. The Reds don’t have any outfielders at Louisville producing.

      • JB

        Anybody with a pulse because right now Benson doesn’t have one. What did Dunn get 10 at bats? Bring him up and give him some more while Benson tries to figure it out in AAA. Heck anybody can strike out.

      • Mauired

        He’s having a solid year in Louisville. He’s also 5’8″, 28 year old minor league journeyman man with a below average career. Doesn’t really strike me as a big improvement or solution for right field. He’s also not on the 40 man so they literally have to release someone to get him up.

      • Mauired

        I was talking about Levi Jordan. I do like Dunn a lot but he hasn’t hit much anywhere this year so far.

      • Melvin

        @Mauired – No disrespect intended but how in the world can he NOT be an improvement?

      • Melvin

        The roster spot is easy. – Burdick

      • Mauired

        Easy. He could pull a Ford. Hit minor league pitching and not major league pitching. If the Reds had an actual prospect producing in AAA I’d be all for it. I’m not against Benson being demoted. I also don’t think he’s the most deserving. Martini, Maile, and Espinal are all bad. India has been serviceable. Fraley has one homerun. Seems like he became a singles hitter this year. There’s a lot of bad stuff going on with this offense.

      • Melvin

        “Easy. He could pull a Ford.’

        Anyone can be a “Ford”. Won’t know until you try.

      • Mauired

        Ok. but who gets released to get Levi Jordan or Peyton Burdick on the team.

      • Mauired

        Ok release Burdick and swap Benson for Jordan. Yeah might help.

      • Mauired

        Honestly don’t think it would change much unfortunately. But like you said. They need to try something.

  75. Beaufort Red

    Some guys earlier said they would rather have Benson hitting instead of Espinal. That’s lunacy. Plus Espinal has the best strikeout percentage. The opposite of Benson.

    • Mauired

      Espinal doesn’t strikeout or walk or hit the ball hard. He’s does pop-up after 2 pitches in about 90% percent of his at bats. Big deal.

      • Mauired

        The lunacy is the obsession with strikeouts and ignoring every other facet of baseball.

      • JB

        Or the lunacy of you ignoring that the guy can’t even get on base.

      • Mauired

        Lol Espinal has a .572 ops. But he doesn’t strikeout so no worries.

      • Randoxu1

        The obsession with strikeouts is Real. That’s the problem with this team you can’t get on base without making contact. As far as Benson and Espinal are concerned, I looked it up. Benson is clueless at the plate. Benson has 60 more at bats than Espinal and has 10 more hits and 1 more rbi. That should tell you all you need to know about Benson. He flat out stinks. He should be in triple AAA.

      • Mauired

        I’m not disagreeing with anyone that Benson is not helping. But I still don’t see Espinal as better just because he doesn’t strikeout like Benson. Elly leads MLB in strikeouts and it doesn’t mean Espinal is better.

        Benson has a better obp, slug, ops. More hits, runs, total bases, extra bases, homers, doubles, triples, steals, and walks.

        Benson has 22 extra base hits (4th on the team) to Espinal’s 7. He also has 27 walks (again 4th on the team) to Espinal’s 11. OPS is 100 points better too.

        Strikeouts are not good but also not the end all.

        At the end of the day, they both are not playing big league baseball.

  76. Melvin

    Good catch by Steer. His defense is underrated.

  77. Roger Garrett

    Can’t have Elly and Benson fanning 4 or 5 or 6 times a game.Elly helps in other ways but Benson isn’t helping at all.Just to have to do something with Benson.

    • Melvin

      Yep. You can’t have two of the top K guys in the majors on the same team when one of them isn’t doing ANYTHING to help.

  78. GreatRedLegsFan

    Benson’s SO rate getting close to 50%.

    • Gpod

      do you think Cleveland wants him back?

  79. 50thyearRedsfan

    The replacement for Benson is easy, any outfielder for the bats who has a lower strikeout percentage, take your pick there has to be at least one.

    • Beaufort Red

      Easy fellas you’re picking on Mauired’s guy. He’ll come up with some nonsensical reasoning. Like my obsession with strikeouts. That’s kinda important as a hitter.

      • Mauired

        Beaufort. I just commented that your whining about Benson batting in front of Espinal was a joke. You’re the one trying to spin.

      • Mauired

        Nonsensical thinking is your thing. Appreciating Espinal and his .572 ops because he never strikes out. Who cares if he can’t get hits or on base.

  80. Gusnwally

    I am watching the game on NESN. How nice listening to real big league announcers.By the way Kevin Youkilis has joined the rather large contingent of our David Bell bashers He went on a bit of a rant on how Bell took Montas out after striking a guy out with a 98 mph fastball. And sitting on 72 pitches.gusnwally

    • JB

      I know. Loved listening to these two guys. Youkilis is way better than Larkin.

    • Gpod

      As i have said before….I would be delighted with 100 L’s this year if it got rid of Bell….that would be like a dream season

    • Roger Garrett

      Other teams announcers and even the guys on Fox just telling the truth.We live it and when they see this team play and our manager’s decisions its just easy to scratch your head and say what was that.Oh they see some bad play even with their teams but not like you see with the Reds and not every game pretty much like you see with the Reds.I mean how could you call yesterday’s game at all and not saying anything.If you said nothing there would be minutes not seconds of just silence.

  81. Melvin

    Even Soto has played some outfield in the past.

  82. Roger Garrett

    Yeah and I am not trying to beat Benson up just trying to see if maybe he can get it fixed down in Louisville.Guy has to be under so much pressure just to make contact and he knows he isn’t hurting the team when he doesn’t.

    • JB

      That’s just it. I called out his body language weeks ago. I’m not sure why Krall or Bell don’t see it. The guy is dying with every strike out and now every out. He just needs to go down and take a week off. Clear the head. It’s way past the point of working it out in the game.

  83. GreatRedLegsFan

    As it stands now, Fraley, Benson and Martini can all be released now and nothing will happens, the team may actually improve.

  84. 50thyearRedsfan

    Benson has clearly become the weakest link and despite the painful misery watching this team has become we are one winning streak away from a successful season, if you can call making the playoffs a success. If we can tighten up our erratic behavior on the basepaths, play a little bit better defense and improve our offense a bit, we can win rather than lose most of these close games. We are not a horrible team and with our pitching especially our young starters we have a chance to be a winning ballclub for many years in a row. I just want to know if this seasoning and all these at bats are helping our hitters become better hitters as time goes by or is it a lost cause and we need to replace several of them. And one more necessary tweak that would put us over the top is to replace Bell with Lou Pinella. Lou would not accept these baserunning blunders without a perhaps necessary tongue lashing! And Sparky taught fundamentals and the big red machine was great not just because they could hit but they all were great baserunners. Mental mistakes must come with consequences!

  85. Mike W

    Elly’s last dozen games have been great.
    Benson’s have been terrible.
    Time to give him a week in AAA to get his groove and confidence (back) on. He is not doing us any good.
    We need a players’ only meeting and complete effort to sweep the Pirates.
    Losing Sonny Gray was one of the worst mistakes our penny pinching management has ever made. Besides still being an elite pitcher, he could have taught everyone how to bunt better. He went 7 today and gave up 1 hit, 1 run, 8 K’s and no BB’s. Coming in he was:
    #8 in ERA at 2.95
    #9 in strikeouts (Hunter is #7)
    #4 in Wins with 8
    ……and ALL those numbers will improve after he’s done today.

  86. Melvin

    Getting hit on the elbow hard like that is not going to help his (Benson) swing. That looked painful.

    • Daytonnati

      Had to hurt … on the bright side, his OBP went up?

  87. Melvin

    Benson getting hit may be a blessing in disguise for him in getting some rest and us in getting a replacement. I wish him a speedy recovery though. He’s a good guy.

  88. Red Thunder

    Why Martinez? Isn’t Spiers pitching tomorrow? I would have thought they would save
    him for possible long relief. Hope Spiers has some innings in him, 6 or 7 sounds good.

  89. Melvin

    Okay. We’ve got three outs to score at least three runs.

    • RedAlert

      When you got Benson , Espinal , and Fairchild playing in starting lineup almost every day , just pitiful …. Krall does NOTHING TO HELP THIS TEAM OR ORGANIZATION …. Dude is weak as water as a GM

      • Jason Franklin

        Not defending the guy (Krall), but I wouldn’t be surprised if Mr. Kroger does not/will not add any more payroll to the team. Plus, throw in the fact that if you want to bring in help, it usually cost in terms of incoming contract money, it won’t happen.

  90. Gpod

    How many “rubber game” L’s will this be for the season?

  91. Hanawi

    For all of the deserving talk of Benson, the other real elephant in the room that was mentioned above is the absolute complete loss of power from Fraley. He’s contributed in other ways, but for a purely platoon hitter that is supposed to be one of the big power bats in the lineup, that has to be a concern.

    • Jim Walker

      Fraley> No power and one of the TOOTBLAN leaders which largely negates his decent OBP from singles and BB.