For the first seven innings of the game Andrew Abbott and Brandon Pfaadt dominated the opposing lineups with the lone exception of a solo home run by each team. But when the game turned over to the bullpen it was the Cincinnati Reds who couldn’t get the job done as Fernando Cruz gave up the go-ahead run on back-to-back 2-out doubles, while the Arizona Diamondbacks bullpen tossed two shutout innings to seal the game and earn a series victory.

Final R H E
Cincinnati Reds (18-25) 1 3 0
Arizona Diamondbacks (21-23)
2 5 0
W: Thompson (1-1) L: Cruz (1-4)
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Arizona struck first in this one when Christian Walker led off the 2nd inning with a home run. Brandon Pfaadt took over from there and had a no-hitter going into the 5th inning. He would keep that going through the first two hitters, but then Santiago Espinal broke up the no-hitter and the shutout with a solo home run into the seats in left-center to tie the game up.

After Espinal’s home run it was back to a pitching duel between Andrew Abbott and Brandon Pfaadt, with both guys throwing up zeroes in the 6th and 7th innings as the game remained knotted up at 1-1. After 93 pitches in his seven innings, Pfaadt exited the game and was replaced by Ryan Thompson to begin the 8th inning. The Reds countered by calling on Elly De La Cruz off of the bench to pinch hit for Luke Maile, but he would ground out to begin the inning. A strikeout followed, but Will Benson singled into right to put the go-ahead run on base. It wasn’t to be for Cincinnati in the 8th as a pop up in foul territory ended the top of the inning.

Andrew Abbott, like Pfaadt before him, was finished after the 7th inning and manager David Bell turned things over to Fernando Cruz. He’d retire the first two batters of the inning before Arizona called on Pavin Smith to pinch hit and he came through with a double to the wall in right and was immediately pinch run for by Corbin Carroll. Lourdes Gurriel Jr. followed up with a blooper down the right field line that fell in front of a sliding Jake Fraley to put the Diamondbacks in the lead. A strikeout would end the inning and send the game to the 9th.

Paul Sewald entered the game out of Arizona’s bullpen for the 9th to face the middle of Cincinnati’s lineup. Mike Ford hit a 106 MPH low liner that Christian Walker snagged on one bounce at first and then he trotted to the bag for the out. A pop up followed, leaving the game up to Jeimer Candelario. He hit a shallow fly ball to right field on the first pitch he saw to end the game as the Reds dropped yet another series.

Key Moment of the Game

Lourdes Gurriel Jr.’s double that gave Arizona a lead in the bottom of the 8th inning.

Notes Worth Noting

With Elly De La Cruz entering the game as a pinch hitter (and then taking over at shortstop in the field) he has still played in every game this season.

Andrew Abbott lowered his ERA to 3.06 on the year.

The Reds are 2-12 since the last day of April and they are in last place all on their own in the division, though a Cardinals loss tonight against the Angels would put the two clubs in a tie.

Up Next for the Cincinnati Reds

Cincinnati Reds vs Los Angeles Dodgers

Thursday May 16th, 10:10pm ET

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98 Responses

    • jmb

      Phillips needs to start learning how to be a closer asap!

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      • jon

        yea, a guy that can’t throw a strike. Hes got a lot of learning to do.

    • Doug Gray

      I thought about that, too, but the lateness of the Arizona go-ahead run won the battle of headlines.

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    • jmb

      Another game with only 3 hits! How many times have we seen that so far?

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  1. Dennis Westrick

    Another late inning, one-run loss for the HMS Reds! Iceberg? What iceberg? Frustrating to say the least! Great SP by Abbott (7 innings in which he lowered his ERA), the BP, not so much! Tenth one run loss by the Reds so far this season! On the La-La land a hope we can get this thing turned around before all is lost!

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  2. LDS

    Hard to rationalize sitting EDLC and Stephenson in the same game, especially since it’s time for the Reds to win a few. Winning is just not part of the Reds strategy.

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    • Roger Garrett

      Its Bell and he brings them both in late.You have to try and win every game.I said it before the first pitch that the game was already over but was hoping to eat my words.Bell scripts his lineup in advance an no Elly,no Tyler and the late scratch of India means you don’t score.Its not rocket science its just Bell.After a good team win last night he just does what he does.He can and does say and do whatever he wants and gets away with it.

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    • Still a Red

      Geeez. Everyone clamoring to give Edlc a day off and it was espinal that provided the only offense and some great defense. Unless Stephenson hits a HR he wouldn’t have made much difference. This one was on the offense. Even Cruz got burned by a blooper … the batter didn’t even run until Fraley started to slide.

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      • LDS

        I wasn’t clamoring for EDLC to have a day off, nor Stephenson, Steer, or the others. Twenty something’s being paid $100k to millions of dollars playing a game, who are healthy, should be starting. Bell ball is a demonstrated loser. Sit them if they ask for rest, otherwise expect them to earn their money. Ever hear of Lou Gehrig? Cal Ripken? Quit coddling professional athletes and treating them like little leaguers. Expect results and move on if they don’t occur.

  3. Mark A Verticchio

    I love what Lecure said about Abbott’s interview basically saying that his talk about the team was like a broken record and getting old. Bottom line either Bell and the players they have go at least 4 and 6 the next 10 with the Dodgers and Padres or this season is over. Hell, even that 4 and 6 would put them at 22 and 31 which is a huge whole to dig out of. Now 6 and 4, LOL, would put them at 24 at 29 = big difference.

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  4. RedBB

    Zero reliable closers or back end guys. Not a good thing…might as well give someone like Pagan a shot. in those situations.

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  5. Dennis Westrick

    Forgot to mention the all too frequent, anemic offense with only 3 hits against a future Cy Young award winner (that’s sarcasm by the way!).

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    • VaRedsFan

      Pfaadt’s last 5 starts before today.
      You act like he’s Luke Weaver or something.

      7 IP 2 ER
      5.1 IP 2 ER
      6 IP 2 ER
      6 IP 3 ER
      6 IP 3 ER

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      • JB

        The dude has a great sweeper and it struck out alot of Reds today.

    • DW

      Pfaadt has star stuff according to a lot of what I have seen and heard. Young and figuring out how to pitch in the majors. Just like most of our young starters.

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  6. Ghostrunner_onthird

    Was Bell on the team bus headed to the airport? Asking for a friend.

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  7. Mark A Verticchio

    Offense was awful but still Cruz has blown 3 games in the 8th inning in a week. Moll or anybody might be a better choice. Memorial Day is always a measuring stick for the season and the odds are great that our Reds will be 10 under or worse at the Memorial Day measuring stick. I dread the thought of having summer baseball that means nothing like 2022 again, thanks Krall and Bell.

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    • Doug Hart

      Agree that Moll needs to have a higher workload especially in high leverage situations. He’s done nothing to suggest otherwise.

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    • jmb

      Young should be back soon. Wilson and Cruz need to be sent packing.

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  8. Reddawg2012

    I think we need to accept the fact that when the Reds win a game, it’s not a sign they are turning their season around. It’s just that a 162 game baseball season is long, and even bad teams win games occasionally. They are a bad team who consistently finds new ways to lose.

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  9. Jason T.

    Hitting sucked today.
    Definitely felt better after last night and then this dud. I too have to accept where we’re at offensively.
    Abbott pitched a gem. Yes he’s given up home runs but thankfully mostly solo shots. He’s looked really good. I believe his season era is around 3.
    Not sure why we keep going back to Cruz. I would have preferred Moll or Farmer.
    But then again this is a manager that believes Diaz is mostly lights out when we all know that’s far from accurate so I need to adjust my expectations for his baseball IQ.
    These 1 run losses suck. Bad.

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    • greenmtred

      You can’t rely on just one or two relief pitchers. Cruz has done some good pitching this season and is in middle of a rough patch now, but they need him. Sitting him or getting rid of him won’t help.

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      • Jason T.

        High on Cruz I just wouldn’t have used him in that situation yesterday. He’s struggling lately and would have went in a different direction at that time.

    • Still a red

      WSnt that long ago people were willing to dump farmer and pagan. Would Moll have been a better choice? Maybe. Follow a lefty with another lefty?? Who knows.

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  10. Mark A Verticchio

    Freidl, Marte, Mclain, Lodolo, Benson, CES. Williamson these are 7 guys who really contributed last year and have not played at all or played very poorly this year. When you look at this you can see why this season is a disaster. This along with Bell’s poor decisions have made the Red’s a last place contender, Oh well maybe 2025. Ready for college football in May, long empty summer for sports, sadly I am getting older and running out of summers.

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  11. CI3J

    I thought maybe yesterday was a sign the offense was ready to start clicking again.

    Guess not. But to be fair, this was a tough pitcher.

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  12. Gpod

    do you ever see anyone on this team actually getting teed off with these losses? I watch the players interviews after these game and it’s like they have just accepted losing…giving the same blather over and over and I have come to realize, the team has just taken on Bell’s same personality. He has infected the entire team and it’s a shame …..the passion is gone

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    • Broseph

      Too much $$$ at stake. Players start calling each other out and they’re seen as a clubhouse cancer. With the current numbers the most are putting up, they’re only redeeming qualities are being “team players” and any negative comments would be a quick way to be out of a job.

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    • Jason Franklin

      I agree that the team seems to have taken on the “oh shucks, did we lose again?” attitude of Bell. There needs to be a fire lit on that team. I know they have lost a lot of guys, but you need to act like you are irked (I wanted to say something worse!) if you lose so many games.

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      • Still a Red

        Come on…just because the team and managers are trying to stay positive doesn’t mean they are playing “oh shucks” Certainlly glad the team hasn’t given up like most of rln.

      • greenmtred

        I understand that we’re all disappointed and trying to identify explanations. We can’t really know the state of mind of the people on the team and, of course, people don’t always demonstrate their emotions for public consumption. MLB players are almost certainly highly competitive by nature and it seems very unlikely to me that feel anything but upset about this.

  13. GreatRedLegsFan

    I remember one site predicting a last place, 74-88 record for the Reds, seems very plausible now with such anemic offensive and unreliable bullpen.

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    • Gpod

      It’s sad to think that in reality, probably have to come to grips that the season is probably over, especially after these 4 games with LA. Does anyone think this team could run off a win streak of like 9 out of 11…..very doubtful. I planned the family vacation around a series they have with the Rays in FL in July. Of course, we will still go, but watching the Reds just basically playing out the string in July is really a downer…..and sitting out at a game and enjoying the weather is not an option since they play in that dome

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      • Dennis Westrick

        Living in the Central Florida area I will probably attend at least one game of that series! Beats making that 900+ mile trek up to Cincy!

  14. Mark A Verticchio

    I agree that the players continue to give the company line on losing 12 of 14. Bell has them trained well, unlike some I would like to see a player have enough balls to call out this poor play. They are a total reflection of their boring manager, I can’t see Sparky or Lou putting up with this lack of heart and not calling out somebody even if it was themselves.

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  15. Jason Franklin

    The FO will probably do something like fire the guys underneath Bell and Johnson in the pecking order. This is not enough. Johnson has actually done a pretty good job with the starters (not so much the relievers) so he could probably stick around. Yet, what really needs to happen is Bell needs to be the sacraficial lamb. Then, call up someone like Pat Kelly and give him his chance. If I recall, he is a pretty fiery guy.

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    • Dennis Westrick

      I like fiery managers like Billy Martin or Lou Pinella!

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      • Melvin

        One thing is dramatically clear in my mind. This team with more discipline would be a lot better. It’s true we’ve had a lot of injuries but I think most/all will agree that the starting pitching is much better than last year. There is no way this team should be in last place.

      • Harry Stoner

        Billy Martin?

        Please tell me you’re not serious.

      • Steven Ross

        Terry Francona is the obvious choice IF…he wants to manage again and is healthy enough. Has a history with Buddy Bell in Cleveland. We need a proven winner in the dugout.

      • Still a Red

        Who did Pinella ever call out?

      • Melvin

        “Terry Francona is the obvious choice”

        I have a good feeling about Francona if it were ever feasible.

  16. Gonzo Reds

    Last place, with all this young talent, worse than the talentless Cards… how do we get rid of the cancer, named David Bell?!

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    • Mark A Verticchio

      Like many cancers we won’t get rid of him until the damage is out of control.

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    • TR

      I doubt it will happen until there’s a change in Red’s ownership.

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  17. jessecuster44

    Lineup can’t hit consistently. The only way to save the season is to make an impact trade, and YES that would mean giving up a valuable prospect or two.

    Winning organizations sense the urgency and take bold steps to improve. This is not a winning organization. At all.

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    • Indy Red Man

      I try to play devils advocate just because everybody says the same stuff day after day. I think Krall should’ve seen the writing on the wall with Diaz last year and spent that money on legit bullpen help, but he didn’t. At the same time who expected CES, Benson, McLain, Freidl, Marte, Gibaut, Moll, Williamson, Martini, Espinal, and Connor Phillips to ALL COMPLETELY STINK or be injured for half/most/all of the season. Nick Martinez isn’t producing at his recent level either and I probably missed a few? The best roster in the last 20 years with Sparky at the helm isn’t keeping the Titantic afloat when you’re missing 50% of your talent.
      Montes too….just blah? 3 run lead the other day and immediately gave up 4 and was gone. Bell has to go though. They need a new voice and clean up some of the fundamentals atleast. Some of these teams like Milwaukee just seem to win on that alone and having a positive culture.

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  18. Moon

    I hate to break it to you but the Dodgers have much better pitchers than the teams the Reds have been struggling against offensively. Baseball is a funny game and you never know. And the Reds seem to always play to the level of the competition (or just below the last few weeks) So perhaps they will rise to the challenge of the Dodgers and play well enough to win a few games. But I think more likely they will continue to struggle offensively and the Reds will be feasting on several helpings of knuckle sandwiches over the next few days.

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  19. Indy Red Man

    Just saw Lodolo too. I give up. I’m really worried about his future because he can’t stay healthy. He’s only 26 and already lost 2-3 mph on his fastball. It does feel like a curse. Speiers and Williamson will get their chances atleast. Open auditions at amateur night

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    • Jason Franklin

      The only good thing about Lodolo is that if he can throw those wonky breaking balls no matter the speed, he is nasty If you look on baseball savant, he is almost “great” in that regard. He doesn’t need to live on the fastball, just able to spot it. Yet, as you say, his health is shaky. The reason he may have all these issues could be exactly why he can throw breaking balls like he does. It takes a toll. Plus he’s lanky and that doesn’t help.

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    • AllTheHype

      Lodolo velo down 2-3 mph?

      2022: 94.2
      2023: 93.3
      2024: 93.7

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  20. Mauired

    I’m starting to wonder if Cowgill would be a good replacement for Bell at least as the interim manager this year. It’s seems to bring a much different energy to the team than Bell but very positive.

    Some people have said it’s unlikely Reds will fire Bell since he’s in year one of three. Well at least this year it won’t matter if Cowgill manages instead. In fact he would probably be cheap if it worked out and and he got a two year extension.

    Besides what’s it matter how much Bell makes if the team is not winning or selling tickets. Kind of a poor excuse to keep someone not performing.

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  21. Mauired

    *Bell was just added to the all-star game staff since he’s such a good buds with Lovullo from Dbacks. I doubt the Reds have the heart to fire him before the all star game and take that away from him. But if the Reds are in the cellar then, time to move on.

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      • Mauired

        Maybe Reds could trade Bells contract to Dbacks.

    • Jim Walker

      Being relieved from his managerial duties with the Reds would not disqualify Bell from serving as a coach with the NL All Star team.

      Unless the Reds specifically denied him permission (because he was still under contract to them) or Lovullo withdrew the offer, he could still serve in that role.

      Neither of those actions seems likely given it is clear a major reason David Bell was bestowed this honor was in memory and recognition of his deceased brother Mike’s years of service with the Dbacks organization.

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      • Mauired

        You’re right but it would be very awkward if he was coaching the All-star game without a uniform on because Reds fired him.

        I guess Dbacks could just add him as a bench coach if he was let go by Reds though. He won’t be hired as a manager by any MLB team.

  22. RedsGettingBetter

    I’m mentally preparing myself about the possibility after the game on Sunday:

    the Reds being swept, record 18-29
    the Reds winning 1 game, 19-28

    Maybe they could split the series (that would be so great) to be 20-27 going back to Cincinnati.
    The problem is they are losing games so easy…When they have good pitching then can’t hit but if they can hit and score runs then the pitching or defense fails…

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    • Brian

      You’ve got that right. There’s zero chance that this cheap ownership group pays Bell 2 years to not manage. Maybe a half a year but I kinda doubt that too. He would have to be 50 games under .500 for them to even start to consider it.

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  23. LDS

    I just read Sheldon’s latest two posts, one with Krall earlier and one with Bell and the team after today’s game. The quotes reminded me of Stuart Smalley’s Daily Affirmations on SNL – “I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and dog gone it, people like me.” Seemed totally divorced from reality.

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    • Justin T

      Krall’s quote when asked if he has thought about making trades: “I think the right trade would be great to make — but it’s got to be the right trade. We’ve got to make sure we’re not making a trade just to make a trade and put somebody here and put somebody there. We have to make sure we’re balancing what’s smart and right as opposed to, “Hey, we’re making a trade just to make a trade.” It doesn’t make a lot of sense if you’re giving up prospects just to get [somebody] similar.” Yea, duh.

      The arrogance of the front office the last few years has been unbelievable.

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  24. Dennis Westrick

    Finally, in last place alone! Plus, 8 games behind Milwaukee! Will be at least 10 games out of first when this road trip is over! Only certainty is that Bell will still be manager and covering for his and the team’s incompetence!

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  25. Jeremiah

    If you had told me March 1st, Mike Ford is going to be the Reds #3 hitter every day for 4 games in a row less than 50 games into the season, I would either think Mike Ford has been incredible, or there’s been so many injuries, or guys that can’t hit that Ford became the guy at least temporarily. Nothing against Ford, or Bell, but that’s pretty telling how the Reds are struggling right now that Ford is in this spot…and Benson batting leadoff some games striking out over 40% of the time is kind of telling too.

    It’s so early still, but they almost seem kind of mentally defeated already this season. The pitching being solid though does give some hope that you could start winning consistently at some point though with some offensive improvements.

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    • Rob

      Mentally defeated? When you are 1-10 in one run games and averaging 2.5 runs per game and your offensive adds are Capel, Hurtabise, and Ford. And you were picked and staffed to win several more than last year’s 82. I can’t imagine being mentally defeated. This seems to me to be a very tender, fragile team in need of some pop and sizzle. Bell and Co. saying everything is OK and we will be back. I just don’t see OK and fine in the players faces. It looks like disappointment to me. We talked last year about how the playoff experience would be so beneficial to the youngsters. I am thinking the reverse applies here. Doubt and this is who we are. A bottom feeder.

      This weekend series against the Dodgers could be page turning. Score some runs, make some plays, and win 2-3 games. Alternatively, get beaten down, and I think the effect could last awhile. You just can’t continue to lose in August, September, April, and now May and see management sit idly by. It isn’t fun or invigorating.

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  26. tseramid

    I didn’t watch the game, so farbeit for me to criticize, but Cruz didn’t ‘give up the lead’. The game was tied 1-1 when he came in. I also have a bad feeling that the Reds offense was never going to muster up a run in this game before even a good bullpen outing would have inevitably leaked a run.

    It is absolutely true that this offense was never designed in the offseason to look like this. The missing key hitters hurt badly, but it’s amazing to me just how poorly the entire team is hitting. Really only DeLa Cruz, Fraley, Steer and TyStephenson are remotely hitting at their career norms and even Fraley seems to have lost all his power. Is it possible that we are going to see a correction soon or are we really going to have to watch this team bat .210 the rest of the year?

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  27. Steven Ross

    Ever notice Cruz gets two quick outs then implodes. I have. Maybe Bell should make a change after Cruz gets two outs? Just a thought.

    Maybe Bell shouldn’t use Benson at leadoff. He now leads the majors in striking out with 63. His average is .194! Just a thought.

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    • Jim Walker

      The Reds have several 2 out and 2 strike pitchers in both the pen and rotation. Through the years, I’ve heard former MLB pitchers who probably knew what they talking about say when this happens consistently, it almost always is about a loss of total focus and concentration. Hopefully, the pitching coaches or manager are working with the guys on this. 😉

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    • Jason T.

      That’s what frustrates me so much. You dominate to get two quick outs and then bam, like fall apart. Be it a walk or a hit it just goes south fast. I just don’t understand that.

      Absolutely remove Benson from lead off. Way too many strikeouts. He’s a bottom of the order guy. And that seems to be where he excels the most too.

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  28. Michael B. Green

    Only 2 walks allowed and -0- WP. That certainly kept us in the game. On the offensive side, we only drew 2 walks. Pfaadt does not walk people though. This all added up to a close game. I don’t mind losing by one run. No real SB opportunities and Moreno is great at throwing people out.

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  29. DataDumpster

    EDLC after being out of the lineup with Stephenson and India out also and barely anyone left to get the hits:
    “What can I say? He’s the boss. I can’t say anything.”
    Bell after not noticing that Cruz generally works magic in tough situations but struggles with starting an inning (3 fails this week alone, I believe):
    “They got two hits and win the game. Cruz is going to continue to be good for us.”
    Luke Maile, continuing to convincingly parrot David Bell (why does someone who almost never gets a clutch hit get so many silly quotes in the post presser?):
    “We’re playing fine. We just obviously have to win games. That’s the important thing in this league. We understand that. We’re going to be OK. But it’s going to be a process thing.”

    Well, whatever “thing” it is, it is failing. Most everybody from the players to the media have played slow pitch softball for the last 5 years but maybe now it is being realized that they need to be using a different kind of ball.

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    • Jim Walker

      I see Greene and EDLC as 2 key pieces in changing the culture. They are high ceiling guys that thankfully don’t seem willing to settle for mediocre. Hopefully, McLain and either CES or Marte can step with them on the position side along with some additional pitchers, maybe Ashcraft and Lowder??

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  30. VaRedsFan

    I see Brent Suter will be the opening pitcher for tonight.
    Maybe the AAA rotation didn’t line up to have a guy step in and start? Spiers?
    Can they steal 6 innings from Suter and Martinez tonight?

    At the end of a long road trip, they are going to blow the bullpen up in the 1st of 4 against the Dodgers…a series that they will most likely need a lot of bullpen anyway.

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    • Jim Walker

      They were probably painted into a corner by a lack of optionable pitchers on the current MLB staff. I suppose they could have brought up a starter for Thursday instead of Moll when they moved Lodolo to the IL then switched that guy out for Moll on Friday.

      This begs the question of whether none of their 40 man roster guys at AAA were considered up to the task or perhaps the AAA rotation just didn’t fall into place correctly. If it was the latter, should we be surprised if there was a lack of coordination between the MLB and AAA levels???

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  31. LDS

    I see the Reds’ media hype machine is out in full force today. All the fawning articles to distract from the team’s lack of performance. Journalism is dead, especially in sports. No journalistic integrity at all, simply obsequious pablum to gain access. Just once I’d like to hear a real question, or even a rebuttal question.

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      • LDS

        Nightengale and Sheldon primarily. I haven’t made it to the Enquirer yet today. Nightengale simply touted EDLC. Sheldon as I noted earlier simply ignores reality and repeats the team’s talking points.

      • Mauired

        Sheldon is the epitomy of the last two decades of the Reds. Mediocrity is the ceiling with him and the team. He’s the most boring writer. I’m amazed he’s kept his job with MLB for so many years because he has really brought down their brand. But he is a loyal dog to the Reds and that’s what matters. The guy is absolutely clueless and unentertaining.

      • Mauired

        I would like to add that Doug creates a lot of good and insightful content here and on Reds minor leagues thankfully. So grateful for myself and other Reds fans being able to get good content even though the Reds themselves are completely incapable and incompetent in promoting their own product.

  32. Oldtimer

    David Bell managed five years in the minor leagues. He had a .422 W-L record. He had no seasons above .500 in the minors.

    David Bell has managed six in the major leagues. He has a .467 W-L record. He had three seasons slightly above .500 in the major leagues.

    Trader Jack McKeon managed the Reds to .525 record in 2000. Since then, only Dusty Baker (in 2010, 2012, and 2013) has beaten that mark.

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      • Oldtimer

        You are welcome.

        https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/

        Arguably in my lifetime (born 1951) the Reds have had the following good managers and one great one.

        Fred Hutchinson, Dave Bristol, John McNamara, Pete Rose, Lou Piniella, Davey Johnson, Jack McKeon, and Dusty Baker are good managers. Baker may be in HOF someday.

        Sparky Anderson was a great manager. He’s in HOF. Sparky had proven success in the minor leagues before he was hired. He won 2 WS, 4 NL pennants, and 5 division titles in 9 years as Reds manager.

        The rest have been mediocre to bad managers. Birdie Tebbetts at high end of mediocre among those.

        David Bell is not as bad as Bryan Price. But he’s close.

      • Daytonnati

        I’ve always felt Dave Bristol did not get the credit he deserved. He set the table for Sparky. Managed a lot of the Big Red Machine parts in the minors. Glad he made it into the Reds HoF.

      • Jim Walker

        @Daytonnati>> Bob Howsam and the ownership group that brought him in were 100% serious about what they wanted to accomplish. They understood the potential of the MLB team core and the young guys about to break in from the minors. I believe they also felt the team had underachieved during Bristol’s tenure be that on him or the ownership he worked for.

        The new broom wanted to sweep clean and make a statement in the process. so, Bristol was a goner despite the Reds 89 wins in 1969 which was 3rd best in their division (only 2 divisions in 1969) and 5th best of 12 teams in the league. Imagine the howling now if an 89 win Reds manager was fired regardless of where the team finished.

      • Mauired

        Both are very bad managers but I think Price might have done better than Bell with Bell’s rosters.

      • Melvin

        “David Bell is not as bad as Bryan Price. But he’s close.”

        Bryan Price had no chance with the pitching he had.

    • RedsFanInFL

      I believe he is the first Reds manager to have a sub .500 record and still managing into his 6th season with the club

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      • TR

        Since 1882, the Reds have had 62 managers and only 7 managed more than five years, and that includes David Bell.

  33. Mauired

    Suter starting tonight. Going to be a long weekend.

    Reds come home and play the Padres and Dodgers. I think it’s going to be a long time before another series win.

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    • DataDumpster

      If the Reds can’t flip the Dodgers on a couple games and get at least a split with San Diego, the last series before Memorial day could be a truly “epic” battle for the bottom and/or any continuing relevancy in this season. Both the Cardinals and the Reds could have the fork in position at that point.

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