Welcome to the Thursday matinee getaway. The Reds close out this current so far winless homestand (0-5) with the series final versus the defending NL Champion Diamondbacks. Overall,  the Reds have lost 7 straight games and 10 of their last dozen games to fall 16-19 0n the season.

Hopefully the Reds can post a win this afternoon before they fly west to San Francisco to begin a 10 game road trip which also includes stops in Arizona and Los Angeles (vs Dodgers).  The better news is that following this trip the Reds are finished with road games versus the NL West except for a 3 game set in Denver early in June.

Lineups

     DIAMONDBACKS

SP: Slade Cecconi

            REDS

SP: Hunter Greene

1. Corbin Carroll (CF)
2. Ketel Marte (2B)
3. Joc Pederson (DH)
4. Christian Walker (1B)
5. Lourdes Gurriel Jr. (LF)
6. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
7. Jake McCarthy (RF)
8. Tucker Barnhart (C)
9. Blaze Alexander (SS)
1. T.J. Friedl (CF)
2. Elly De La Cruz (SS)
3. Spencer Steer (1B)
4. Jake Fraley (RF)
5. Jonathan India (2B)
6. Mike Ford (DH)
7. Jeimer Candelario (3B)
8. Will Benson (LF)
9. Luke Maile (C)

Starting Pitchers

Hunter Greene and Slade  Cecconi  are scheduled to start in a battle of  24 year old right handers.

Pitcher IP ERA WHIP BB% K%
Hunter Greene 40.4 3.12 1.17 9.5% 27.8
Slade Cecconi 16.1 4.96 0.80 4.8% 23.8%
Links: Hunter Greene’s StatsSlade Cecconi’s Stats

Hunter Greene

Greene makes his sixth start of the season today. In his last 4 starts (23.2IP) he has allowed just 5 earned runs lowering his ERA t0 3.12.  His ERA/FIP comparison is 3.12/3.04 indicating Greene’s results and efforts appear to be in harmony.

The possible ongoing concern about Greene is he often needs a high number of pitches per out recorded. This limits his innings pitched per outing. In his most recent outing, Greene needed 109 pitches to complete 5.2 shutout innings. Keep an eye on how he fares today bearing in mind Monday’s off day afford him an extra day of rest between starts.

Splits

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB K AVG OBP SLG
RHH 69 14 3 1 0 5 17 .230 .229 .312
LHH 100 17 3 0 2 11 30 .207 .320 .317

Pitch Usage 

4 Seam Slider Splitter Curve
Velo 98.0 86.5 87.2 80.6
Usage 56.8% 37.4% 4.1% 1.7%

 

Slade Cecconi

The Diamondback chose  Slade Cecconi in first round (#33 overall) out of Miami U. (Fla) in  the 2020 June draft. He makes his fourth MLB start of 2024 today in his 11th overall MLB appearance dating back to 2023 when he started in 4 of 7 appearances. Cecconi’s rookie status is intact for 2024.

Cecconi has done well at limiting the number of batters he allows to reach base this year. However be has been burned by a couple of home runs which inflated his ERA . The sample sizes are still small; but, Cecconi’s green kryptonite appears susceptibility to slugging by lefthanded hitters.

Like Hunter Greene, Cecconi is a fastball/ slider guy. However unlike Greene to date, he mixes in off speed stuff in the form of a change up or curve on nearly 20% of his pitches versus the just ~5% of the time Greene throws a splitter or curve for the same effect.

 

Splits

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB K AVG OBP SLG
RHH 32 4 1 0 1 2 9 .133 .188 .267
LHH 31 6 1 0 2 1 6 .207 .258 .448

 

Pitch Usage 

4 Seam Curve Slider Change
Velo 94.4 74.5 85.3 81.9
Usage 56.2% 3.4% 25.3% 15%

Bullpens

Reds

The Reds used 3 pitchers to cover 4 innings on Wednesday night. None of the trio of Fernando Cruz, Lucas Sims, and Brent Suter threw more than 16 pitches. However, given quick turnaround for today, they may not be available.

Diamondbacks

The DBacks also used 3 relievers Wednesday but needed them to cover just 2 innings. Closer  Kevin Ginkel ran into trouble in the 9th while throwing 21 pitches and had to be bailed out by Joe Mantiply. These two along with Ryan Thompson who worked an inning on Wednesday figure to be doubtful for today.

 

When and Where

  • Game time: 1:10pm ET
  • Where: Great American Ball Park
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio, MLB.tv
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 69°, cloudy, 34% chance of rain

 

Worth Noting

Overnight the Reds traded non-roster AAA left pitcher Tyler Gilbert  to the Phillies for cash. Here is Doug’s deep dive from elsewhere on RLN

Division Standings

Team W L GB
Milwaukee 21 15
Chicago 22 16
Pittsburgh 17 21 5.0
Cincinnati 16 19 5.0
St. Louis 15 21 6.5

The good news for the Reds is nobody else in the division won yesterday either. The not as good news is Reds wasted a chance to make up a full game on everyone ahead of them.

174 Responses

  1. RedBB

    Why is Maile playing so much?? He is not hitting period. Stephenson is actually having a nice season both at the plate and defensively and yet they still limit him…

    • Tom Diesman

      Maile will play 40% of the time because Stephenson is not durable enough to play more than 60% of the time behind the plate.

  2. Indy Red Man

    During the Bell era, we have to be bottom 5 in late game runs with a man on 3rd with less then 2 outs in a tie or 1 run game. I just assume we won’t get him in.

    I also predicted the pen would be a problem. They really didn’t do much to reinforce Diaz/Sims high leverage. Are we in the top 15 in any category of reliever? Closer? No. 7th-8th inning with Sims or Cruz? No. Maybe the long man/multiple innings with Suter and Martinez. Martinez has stellar relief #s so far. Losing Gibaut and Moll losing his velo…really hurt. Pagan is just another Farmer as many predicted. I think Williamson could’ve helped in the pen too, but just more games lost on the Reds ledger. They need atleast 3 arms in the offseason and its time to move on for Sims. My viewing has been few/far between w/Bally, but Sims velo is down to 93 and he just doesn’t have it anymore. Farmer has been better which says it all

    • Doc

      I wish he were another Farmer. His era would be almost three runs lower, likely meaning another win or two would have been on the ledger.

  3. Gpod

    because it’s a day game after a night game, apparently that would be the reason Maile and his .140 avg. is in the lineup today….why he was a DH yesterday is beyond me, especially if Ford was available

    • RedBB

      Yeah, I was kind of referring to last night as well. If you are gonna do that then Stephenson should have been DH last night with Maile Catching and Stephenson catching today. Makes ZERO sense for Maile to be playing in back to back games the way he is hitting.

  4. jmb

    There’s a website that lists Grisom Jr.and Adell as 2 of 4 potential targets for the Reds. The Reds need to do BOTH trades asap! There’s an overlap of one player in who the site sees the Reds giving up, but that one player could easily be substituted for in the second trade. The site also proposes trades for Jimenez and Brent Booker, but Jimenez is too injury prone and Rodriguez should be off-limits.

    • RedBB

      Hell, I think Taylor Trammell is available. I’d take him over Bubba Thompson any day.

    • Doc

      Easy to say they should trade for two players. Whom should they give up in the trades? Ay, there’s the rub.

      • Rob

        That is not a question. You put together a package to get what you need or want. Yes, we have a few untradables. But we also have a big hole in the lineup (strong RH bat) that needs addressing before this thing gets difficult or too hard to overcome. OK we didn’t foresee this level of (long term) injuries. But we fully knew we knew we didn’t have any mlb ready talent at Louisville as potential replacements. Seems pretty straight forward to me. Krall blew a playoff spot last year by not closing deals on Scherzer or Montgomery…..who went like 8-1 after going to the Rangers. And I would go a lot bigger than Adell.

  5. Dennis Westrick

    Yes Sir! The highlight of my day is to see what Tinker Bell has whipped up with his magic wand as a batting lineup on Getaway Day! Hate these early afternoon games right after lunch! They give me indigestion!

    Prediction: The only way the Reds win today is if HG tosses a no-hitter!

    • Doc

      You need to get a life if that is the highlight of your day!

  6. AllTheHype

    Greene way down on velo, sitting 94-95. Could be a long day for him.

  7. Mark Moore

    Wonder if Hunter brought his own box of “cookies” or if somebody else handed them to him … 😮

    Blast and a 2B after mowing down the first two. Why does it seem we have to “stop the bleeding” in the first inning?

    Could be a real confidence booster to the Snakes given their slump coming in here. I can only hope we Stomp Some Snakes today.

    Nice and nasty pitch to end that inning, BTW.

    • Jim Walker

      The pitcher is ultimately responsible for the pitches he throws; but, I wonder at times about both the Reds general scheme of pitching and individual pitch calls within PAs

  8. Doc

    Seems to me the first inning is a microcosm of Reds pitching and hitting.

    Top of first, two quick outs, then the damage starts.
    Bottom of first, two quick outs, then a third quick out.

  9. Mike W

    As the Whispers made famous and many Red’s fans are feeling now during our 7 game losing streak: “….and the beat(ing) goes on.” :+(

    Einstein didn’t really say this, but it’s often attributed to him anyway: “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.” Mssrs Bell and Castellini, have you heard that one before?”

    I hope to see our batters putting the barrel of the bat on the ball today and focusing on DRIVING the ball, instead of everyone trying to hit it out of the park and popping up so often. With our speed up and down the lineup I’d rather see 8 singles and 4 doubles. We need to produce 5-6 runs today to support what has been GREAT starting pitching. Manager, tell our young men to drive the ball! Don’t just sit in the dugout not saying anything as it appears you do so often. Let’s go Reds!

  10. Mark Moore

    Looks like a good challenge to me. Let’s see what NY says.

  11. Daytonnati

    We might have our own Tommy Boy here? 🙂

  12. Roger Garrett

    Same song.We aren’t changing who we are and they are all doing the right things and were close.Ten games out by the end of the road trip unless they change the voice in the dugout.

    • Dennis Westrick

      I wish he (Bell) would use his voice!

  13. DataDumpster

    Beyond the Bell usual post presser routine of “the guys are great”, and the opposing pitcher and team deserves a lot of credit, I have been noticing a lot more lines emphasizing “we just have to trust what we are doing” (i.e., I am the manager and calling the shots so there is no problem here). Even Ashcraft yesterday even kind of upped Bell by mentioning how hard everybody is working and how much “bad luck” seems to be holding back results.
    The bottom line basically comes down to the plan is set, so put in the effort and que sera sera. I’m OK, you’re OK. Can a team really be successful with this attitude and does Krall have any authority to change gears (ahem, the manager and ability to make significant trades) if the team is on life support at the All Star Break?

    • Jim Walker

      Many decades and several career path changes ago, I was exposed to what was, at then at least, basic sales theory. Just get in enough calls, make your pitch enough times and you’ll make enough sales.

      I think of this a lot when I hear Bell talk or read about his post game comments.

    • LDS

      Read Goldsmith’s article today. It was obsequious nonsense. The solution to start is simple. Just no one in the FO is willing to do it. Looking for some superstitious cue to turn them around is grade school BS. The real world doesn’t work that way.

  14. Jason T.

    Despite his decreased velocity Hunter is pitching well. Umpire on the other hand…

  15. Mark Moore

    “Stands” vs. “Confirmed” which means maybe it was or maybe it wasn’t. Still, challenge is now burned so I hope we don’t need it later for something critical.

  16. Roger Garrett

    I get the optimism cause the negative stuff doesn’t help at all.Mine is out of frustration cause I love the Reds.My problem is they should be working hard and so does every other player and team but that gets you nothing.Bell has no idea what to change or what to do so its the same company line along with hope.No way that alone gets it done.Need a new message or a new messenger.Heck I am open to finding WIld Thing Ricky and letting him throw fear into the other team.

  17. Mike W

    Benson robbed.
    he was safe.
    Poor kid.

  18. Gpod

    basically 9 up & 9 down…..what a great homestand this has been. How about everyone that showed up at the ballpark for this series gets their money back

  19. RedsGettingBetter

    Maile looks really unarmed at the plate…

  20. Roger Garrett

    Day game after a night game and its scripted in advance Maile is catching so he catches and Tyler watches.Guess we don’t need his offense.

    • Tom Diesman

      Or it’s because Stephenson isn’t durable enough to catch more than 60% of the games.

  21. Mark Moore

    Cowboy says Hunter is mixing in some different pitches that seem to be working. Other than getting the 3rd out this inning (and the lead we spotted them), he seems way more comfortable out there.

    • Jason T.

      He’s looking good. Actually throwing a few more curveballs too.
      The umpire is not calling the borderline pitches or he’d be even better.
      He’s mixing it up more than I’ve seen this season. Dialed one up to 97 last inning but that’s the fastest he’s been. Actually think he’s pitching more today versus throwing at times but he’s had a solid year. I see growth.
      Just wish we’d hit. Tired statement but still appropriate.

      • Mark Moore

        Cowboy said pitching vs. throwing as well

  22. Gpod

    why didn’t Steer & Fraley give Elly a chance to steal a base….stupid

  23. Grand Salami

    Hunter threw a couple of splitters to strike out Bellinger, the cowboy was loving it.

    Elly breaks up the early no no, but it doesn’t matter because the team still can’t hit.

    I’ve never seen the Reds so inept offensively for such a long stretch. It’s hard to believe no changes have occurred in the dug out.

    The fans had expectations this season and they are being sorely disappointed. They’ve had to rebuild attendance and they are doing much to sustain it.

  24. Roger Garrett

    I have the answer and its at no cost.The Red aren’t going to change who they are and thats why on 5 pitches the inning was over.They hack and hack some more.Elly should know that and took off on the first pitch and then again on the next pitch.Now he wouldn’t have score anyway but you know.

    • Gpod

      You are down by a single run with possible rain on the way….you get the best base stealer on base with one out….he goes on a 1-0 pitch and your (in a huge slump) batter swings when he doesn’t have to…..next batter, basically swinging away non-stop & not allowing Elly to go anywhere….selfish baseball

  25. Mark Moore

    And Candy pushes that one out to back Hunter.

  26. LDS

    I tell you, a team or a pitcher is in a slump, looks at the schedule and sees the Reds are next up and it’s like the old Christmas song, “Santa Claus is coming to town”. They can make anyone look like a Cy Young winner.

  27. Dennis Westrick

    Not that it matters much, a loss today by the Reds and a win by the Dirty Birds, puts us in last place in the NL Central Division! Makes you proud to be a Reds fan!

  28. Mark Moore

    And Wil B mashes one to the wall as well. Almost out of the park.

  29. Melvin

    Could it be that Candelario is starting to hit? 🙂 HR!

    • LDS

      Maybe @Melvin, but how many times thus far this season has someone said that only to see another extended hitless streak?

      • CI3J

        Candy is well-known to be a slow starter, like Votto was.

        Granted, Candy will never hit like Votto, but he’s not as bad as he’s shown so far.

      • LDS

        We’ll see. Since the Reds are stuck with him for three years, he needs to produce of be traded, even DFA’d. I said at the time that he and Montas were both lottery tickets. Thus far, except for occasionally, neither has paid off.

  30. Melvin

    Going to need a catcher call up after that HBP on Maihle?

    • Melvin

      Not going to help his hitting that’s for sure.

    • Jason T.

      That sounded awful. Shocked he went down to first.

    • Jim Walker

      I’d think at least they will take a 3rd guy west with them just in case. I’m not sure if the taxi squad system is still in place or what the hoops are to do it; but they need to do it.

  31. Mark Moore

    And another wrist injury to a player. Tyler at the ready. Have to wonder if this will be worse like the others before him.

    • Mark Moore

      Surprised he’s back out there.

      • Melvin

        Looked bad and painful. He’s tough.

  32. Mark Moore

    OK, we tied it even if we couldn’t capitalize on Wil’s mash.

  33. Mark Moore

    And once again, we can’t have nice things (at least for very long)

  34. Melvin

    Well we were at least tied for a little while.

  35. CI3J

    Welp, the bullpen is giving this one away too.

  36. Dennis Westrick

    Wow! Bell threw in the towel early in this one sending the always reliable Martinez to the mound! The two (2) run deficit might as well be Mount Everest!

  37. RedsGettingBetter

    The 6th inning again, Dbacks take the lead like yesterday…

  38. Mark Moore

    Elly’s sliding is definitely improved. Last season he’d have gone halfway out into LF.

    • Mark Moore

      And then the TOOTBLAN. Watch Steer mash one now that would have tied it 😮

  39. Jim Walker

    OK, here is the question, I hope someone asks Bell after the game:
    “Since was Martinez was warming up in the Reds 5th, why wasn’t Greene batter to batter in the top of the 6th?”

    By waiting until there were 2 on and still no outs, the leverage/ stress was much increased on Martinez. Still even with how he struggled through the inning, the likelihood is if he had entered with just a man on 1st, the DBacks would have scored 1 at the most.

    • Melvin

      You know questions like that aren’t allowed. 😉

    • Jason T.

      Agreed. He was already warming up. That would be a great question to ask.
      I will say that Hunter didn’t get any close calls from that umpire. I mean there were quite a few pitches that certainly looked like they were strikes. That’s unfortunate.

  40. Melvin

    Well. That wasn’t exactly smart by EDLC there.

    • Gpod

      there is no excuse for stupid baseball…..and that was as stupid as it gets

      • Melvin

        Even Larkin said it was unacceptable.

      • Melvin

        ….and he would have scored on that base hit. Not that we need runs or anything. 🙂

    • Dennis Westrick

      The Reds, under the tutelage of their Rhodes Scholar manager, excel at stupid baseball!

      • Melvin

        Jonathan India – “David Bell is very laid back. He just wants us to go out and have fun”.

      • Melvin

        Jonathan India – “David Bell is very laid back. He just wants us to go out and have fun”.

  41. Tom Mitsoff

    I think I’m 99 percent to the point where I’m realizing that my hopes / expectations of this team being a contender this year are foolish. When EDLC was thrown out trying to steal third with nobody out and down by two runs, Jeff Brantley’s comment was “That was youthful exuberance.” If that’s where this team truly still is, then contending is an absolute no-no this year.

    • Melvin

      There’s always “wait till next year” Tom. It’s the theme every year. lol

    • CI3J

      Not so much “youthful exuberance” as it was “dumb, undisciplined baseball”.

      And that comes from the manager on down. The fact that Bell wasn’t chewing EDLC out the second he got back to the dugout tells you all you need to know.

  42. Melvin

    Come on Mike Harrison Ford. Hit us a three run dinger. 🙂

  43. Gpod

    That inning basically tells you all you need to know about the reds this year…..stupid baseball followed by the absolute inability to get a big hit

  44. Jedi Joey

    They just can’t do the little things. Too many mistakes when they need runs. So frustrating and I am losing hope for this season to be a successful one.

  45. Dennis Westrick

    This 2024 Reds team sure puts the “fun” in disfunctional!

    • Jedi Joey

      I only wish it were fun for us long suffering fans. Ha ha

  46. DataDumpster

    I think considering the point that @Jim mentioned about the pitching change and the base running blunder for no good reason (man on second, no outs, only 6th inning), the most likely percentage call is pat least 2 full runs.

  47. Jim Walker

    The stage was set for Mike Ford’s Derek Dietrich/ Nick Martini moment and he just missed it on the mile popup.

    • Mark Moore

      That’s 2x in 2 days by my count.

  48. Mark Moore

    And more squandered opportunities

  49. Jeremiah

    It’s either good

    Reds currently a disaster! It’s mental now as much as lack of talent issues I think currently.

    Never would have thought this but Reds might be seller’s at the deadline at this rate.

    That’d be quite a twist might start thinking who can they get for Montas, Martinez, India, maybe Martinez, Fraley, etc.

  50. Dennis Westrick

    Getting close to a Clete here! Hard to fool the boss with an “In a Meeting” sign on my office door all afternoon!

  51. Dennis Westrick

    OK, ladies & germs! I’ve seen enough of Mr. Martinez! What say you Mr. Bell?

  52. Mark A Verticchio

    This has to be one of, if not the worst home stand in the 55 years I have followed the Reds. The pitching has been good but not great, hitting F nothing else more to say, base running poor and not smart and fielding poor. One last thing coaching F-.

  53. Indy Red Man

    Candy,11 for last 28, on a relentless drive to be average. That’s our highlight. Enjoy
    Somebody say HG was at 95? That’s usually a TJ in about 3 weeks after Bell said it’s nothing a few times. Enjoy

  54. Gpod

    The article in the Cin. enquirer today had a quote from Maile that was really telling when talking about how the team handles this huge slump they are in, he said: “It depends on the kind of team you have” Maile said “Who your veterans are and how many rookies you have and what you manager’s vibe is” That says it all….the Reds manager’s vibe is just barely above death

  55. Melvin

    Now we need a EDLC dinger to tie it up.

      • Dennis Westrick

        Like a drug addict, just looking for one more hit!

  56. Dennis Westrick

    Benson needs a guide dog! He looks lost at the plate!

  57. magi210

    It’s been a while since I’ve seen numbers larger than 1 on the Reds side.

    • Gpod

      63 innings is what i thought they said…..so reds were due!

  58. Melvin

    We got a tie game again with the Steer base hit. We would be ahead without the base running blunder but we won’t talk about that. 🙂

  59. Dennis Westrick

    Despite the score being tied, I have that gnawing feeling in my stomach that the Bad News Bears (Reds) will find another unique way to lose a game! Bell is our Walter Matthau without the cheap beer!

    • Melvin

      Make it 8. Two walks after two outs. Come on Cruz. Get it done.

  60. Dennis Westrick

    Gotta have that 2-out WALK!

  61. Dennis Westrick

    This is tourture to watch! A 2-out walk, a wild pitch followed by another 2-out walk!

    • AllTheHype

      This is why Cruz can’t be the closer. He can lose the plate at any point in any appearance, and not be able to get it back. It’s all mental.

  62. Melvin

    …and the first walk scores. Barnhart no less. smh

  63. Dennis Westrick

    I know! I know! The first of the 2-out walks scored on the single by Carroll. Insanity!

  64. Gpod

    that rally for a tie game lasted all of 5 minutes

  65. Mark Moore

    And thanks to Elly’s aggressive speed, we’re tied. Now can Cruz hold them down and keep it tied?

  66. Indy Red Man

    Walked Tucker Barnhart. Who thought that wouldn’t come back to bite them? Cruz is lights out sometimes, but mostly average. Our pen sucks

    • Jim Walker

      Cruz was running on empty. He threw 2.0 innings last night then was back out there about 15-16 hours later.

  67. RedsGettingBetter

    If you give two walks to 8th spot and a pinch-hitter to face Carroll and Marte who are well-known Reds killers you should lose…

    • Melvin

      …and most likely will in a close game especially.

  68. JB

    Why does it seem that a pitcher can’t find the plate and walks guys and then gives up a run scoring hit. Then the next batter he miraculously can throw strikes and gets out of the inning. Nibble nibble nibble until damage and then throw strikes.

    • Melvin

      Nibbling on Barnhart. Not exactly a fearsome hitter.

  69. Mark A Verticchio

    This is how losing streaks reach 10 plus or more, you work like hell to tie it then one of your best relievers walks the 8 and 9 hitters with 2 out and then allows a single and just like that you are behind again.

  70. Doc

    Uncanny how the Reds can battle back and the BP almost immediately gives up the go ahead run. I’m sure somebody will manufacture a way that this is Bell’s fault.

    Small sample size, but Ford hasn’t been a savior yet.

    • Harry Stoner

      I was sure somebody would quickly nitpick about Ford’s production and cynically refer to him as a savior so that they could appear “smarter than thou” in hindsight.

      I didn’t have to wait long.

  71. Melvin

    Well we’re down a run again. Gotta climb that mountain.

  72. Melvin

    Indiana Jones comes through with a base hit. Good move to pinch run for him with Fairchild.

    • Mark A Verticchio

      It didn’t turn out to be a good move.

  73. Melvin

    Oh my goodness. Boneheaded base running by Fairchild. smh Double play.

  74. RedsGettingBetter

    How they can win playing that way? Jesus christ

  75. Jedi Joey

    Wow! I’m out for this game. I can’t stand watching the ineptitude of this “Professional” team. Someone should get fired over this. No more excuses.

  76. RedsGettingBetter

    Dbacks are fooling the reds

  77. JB

    This team is an interesting assortment of mediocrity.

    • WCRon

      Most of them are bottom of t he barrel. You are being kind
      calling them mediocre

  78. WCRon

    What the heck was Fairchild was thinking. You can’t make this garbage up.

  79. Gpod

    The Reds lead the league in stupid baseball …..by a wide margin

  80. Stoney

    The fundamentals from this team is absolutely dreadful!! Game after game. No wonder they’re where they are at. Frustrating!

  81. Mark A Verticchio

    The sad thing is changes must be made now, another week of this and for all intense and purposes this season is over. BELL MUST GO.

    • Melvin

      Well considering we’ve got several games against the Dodgers coming up soon…..

  82. Dennis Westrick

    Two (2) horrendous base-running errors by the Reds in the same game which will probably end up as a one-run loss! Again, no accountabilty by the legacy hire in charge!

    Love EDLC but you simply cannot get thrown out at 3rd with NO OUTS when, in all likelihood, you score easily from second on a base hit!

  83. Dennis Westrick

    By my count, three (3) outs on the basepaths by the Reds today, including the two (2) TOOTBLANs!

  84. Indy Red Man

    I defend Bell alot, but they’ve been dumb baserunners for his entire era. Going back to Dusty too I think? Winker always thought he had track speed. It just never ends. Votto was horrible. He cost us the tie in Atlanta in that playoff game. It becomes even more important when you have so much speed. You have to use it wisely

  85. Mark Moore

    I didn’t think Farmer would make that play. Still have to see if we can catch a little 9th inning lightening. Confidence is NOT high at this point.

  86. Gpod

    in in last 60+ at bats, Benson has struck out on 1/2 of them…..how is that even possible?

  87. Melvin

    8 losses in a row. Fun without discipline is not really fun at all….especially in Major League Baseball.

  88. Dennis Westrick

    Yep! That pretty much sums it up! Two (2) strikeouts and a wek ground out against a D-Backs relief pitcher with an ERA of 9!

  89. Melvin

    Going out west on a long road trip I’m thinking we just might get a 12 game streak again this year…..just not the kind we want. 🙁

  90. Gpod

    will anyone ask Bell one difficult question in the postgame about anything that happened in this game…..i doubt it

  91. LWBlogger

    Pretty simply really. They gave away too many outs.

  92. Dennis Westrick

    The 10-game road trip against the Giants, the D-backs and the Dodgers will pretty much put the nail in the coffin for this season! Will be luck to win one (1) game!

    Just counting down the days until the college football season starts!

    • Melvin

      But when we come back we have it easy playing the Padres and Dodgers again to start. 🙂

  93. Mark Moore

    And the streak continues … 🙁 😐

    Not much watching from me during the WC swing. Those post 10PM starts are a non-starter here.

  94. JB

    Well the deciding factor was tucker Barnhart was trying to score from 2nd on a base hit. By the time he made it home I could have went to the bathroom and back and he made it standing up. No arms in the outfield and the other team knows it by green lighting Tucker Barnhart of all people. Alot of flaws on this team.

    • Melvin

      Another reason why I eventually think LF is the best position for Friedl. Good glove though.

    • Rob

      Friedl is a known noodle arm. Teams will attempt to take an extra base on him. Plays a nice (excellent) CF otherwise. Best position for him however would probably be LF.

  95. Grand Salami

    This is not a well coached team. And to make matters worse, it doesn’t appear that there is much accountability for the mistakes.

    This was a very real chance to break the streak and the team snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Bell’s decision/timing on Martinez for Greene, the steal attempts/run and hits, and the lack of situational hitting leads me to believe this team needs new managerial leadership in a serious way. Time to bring in a drill instructor.

  96. Mark A Verticchio

    May = 0 and 7. I think the question on everybody’s mind is with a 10 game west coast trip coming, How bad can things get? 16 and 13 has turned into 16 and 21. I am going to go out on a limb and predict a 2 and 8 road trip which will put them at 18 and 29 = this season is over.

    • Rob

      I don’t think either Krall or Bell would survive that. You can not be a person in charge and allow this to continue. I would hope Krall has worn out the phone lines the last few days getting a RH bat in here. And not an Espinal but a real player like Robert or Chisolm.

      Nick didn’t cause this debacle with all the injuries but it is on his watch and he needs to fix it soon. I don’t know who you need to give up to get Robert in here, but if it is Phillips, Arroyo, and India, do not hesitate. Just don’t sit on your hands until we are in a deeper hole.

  97. Melvin

    Sam on post game – “You can’t walk Tucker with two outs and nobody on”.

    • JB

      Exactly. Like does Cruz know who is actually at the plate? Throw fastballs and make them beat you. Freaking Barnhart of all people. We question the hitters alot and their Baseball IQ but the pitchers are no better.

  98. Gpod

    I would be more then OK with a 0-fer west coast trip if it lead to changes on this coaching staff

    • Melvin

      The truth is David Bell should have been fired on several occasions since he’s been here. At least changing things is what most teams would have done. I see no reason to believe it’s going to happen now.

      • JB

        Nope and honestly you can’t fire the hitters and there is nobody left in AAA to replace all them. The Manager is the guy who’s left whether he deserves it or not. That’s just how it works.

  99. Roger Garrett

    Reds won’t change who they are cause they are doing all the right things.We saw a few of those right things today on the bases and at the plate.Bell is reaching when he brings in Cruz after 2 innings and 29 pitches last night and he watches him throw 26 more today.Thats a panic move at best even if he gets the job done.

  100. Roger Garrett

    Correction on Cruz it was 16 last night and 29 today.Thats 45 pitches in what 18 hours or so?

    • Melvin

      Diaz hasn’t pitched very much lately if I’m not mistaken. He could have gone two innings.

      • Rob

        I agree. Just absolutely no thinking outside the box. He put him in tomorrow when we are in a 8-1 game. Benson is completely out of it and needs time off.

  101. Mike W

    NOT stealing 3B with no one out and down by just 2 is fundamentally wrong. Especially since Elly could score on any single. Did our 3B coach signal our excitable 22 year old phenom NOT to steal? Did anyone see that? Did anyone see Bell go to Elly when he returned to the dugout for a “coaching moment” to say, you don’t steal 3B in situations like that and here’s why… Why were we swinging at first pitches after Elly got on 1B, and not giving him a chance to steal? Did anyone see Bell go to those hitters after they came back to the dugout to say you should take a pitch and give him a chance to steal, because then if you single that gives us a run. I sure hope a management is burning the late night oil saying, okay what do we do now? We have to make a management move or the fans will think we’re okay with things as they are with “Cool Hand Bell” losing 8 in a row (6 at home) and not seeing our manager fired up about poor hitting, poor base running, swinging for the fences, K rate, BA rate. The fans will stop coming soon, and then ALL of us are in big trouble! This is a tough business. I refuse to believe our players are worse than the Pirate players. Tough decisions have to be made now to at least show the fans, the customers, that we are TRYING to improve and change the way things are going — and show we’re not as happy or complacent as our non-action makes us appear to be.