Jonathan India and Hunter Greene both had their best games of the year, leading the Cincinnati Reds to an 8-4 victory before 36,553 at Globe Life Park in Arlington, Texas.

Final R H E
Cincinnati Reds (15-12) 8 10 0
Texas Rangers (14-14)
4 7 1
W: Greene (1-2) L: Lorenzen (2-1) Sv: Diaz (6)
Statcast | Box Score | Game Thread

India batted 4-for-4 with four RBI to lead the eight-run attack, while Greene pitched seven one-hit shutout innings for his first win of the year — breaking a two-game losing streak.

As this post was set live, the Reds sit three games behind Milwaukee — which plays at the New York Yankees this evening — and two games behind the Cubs, who lost 17-0 to Boston today — in the National League Central Division.

The Offense

The composite line for Reds hitters today: 10-for-33, two walks drawn and only six strikeouts — an unusually low total for this team.

Cincinnati scored first in the top of the second. The first three batters of the inning reached against old friend Michael Lorenzen, followed by an RBI single by India and a sacrifice fly by Nick Martini. But a double-play grounder by Santiago Espinal short-circuited any further production in that inning.

The lead grew to 3-0 in the fourth inning on India’s two-out single that scored Christian Encarnacion-Strand from second base.

After Lorenzen hit Tyler Stephenson with a pitch to lead off the top of the seventh, India hit Mikey Biceps’ 100th pitch for his first home run of the year, an opposite-field shot to right, to give the Reds a 5-0 lead — with four of the runs driven in by India. Rangers Manager Bruce Bochy then called upon Jose Urena, who allowed a single by Martini and then a 382-foot blast to right by Will Benson to make it 7-0.

Martini’s second sac fly of the day scored Luke Maile from third to make the score 8-0 Reds in the eighth.

Other than India, Benson’s two hits were the only multi-hit performance for the Reds. Benson and Martini drove in two runs apiece.

The Pitching

The composite pitching line for Reds hurlers today: 9 innings, 7 hits, 4 runs, 1 walk and 8 strikeouts. But the real story was Greene. Over the first three innings, he was able to overcome one of the primary obstacles to him becoming a pitcher who can be counted on for at least six to seven innings per game — high pitch count. Greene threw only 42 pitches over the first three, an average of 14 per inning. He also retired the first nine Rangers batters he faced, with none of them hitting the ball hard.

After a leadoff walk in the fourth, Greene rebounded to retire the next three Texas hitters, bringing his pitch count to only 56 — another 14-pitch inning.

The no-hit spell was broken on a fifth-inning leadoff double by Josh Smith. The inning ended scoreless when shortstop Elly De La Cruz made a fabulous play to throw out the speedy former Red, Travis Jankowski, on a slow roller for the third out of the inning. Pitch count after five full: 76.

Sixth inning: 1-2-3 on nine pitches. 85 total.

Seventh inning: 1-2-3 on 13 pitches. 98 total. Greene’s final line: 7 innings, 1 hit, 1 walk, 6 strikeouts.

Brent Suter finished up the game, getting beaten around a bit in the ninth — allowing six hits, two homers and four runs. With one out in the bottom of the ninth, Manager David Bell had to come out and get Suter and call upon Alexis Diaz. Two Rangers were on base, meaning that the tying run was on deck when Diaz emerged — qualifying him for a save when he closed out the win.

Today’s game was an example of what Reds fans have been expecting / hoping for from Greene. Interestingly, Statcast data indicates he threw only fastballs and sliders. No third pitch that many observers have been voicing the belief that is the key for Greene to take the next step in his career. Importantly, 64 percent of his pitches were strikes. We’ve seen in recent games pitched against the Reds the benefits of pounding the strike zone, and we saw it again today benefiting a Reds pitcher.

Up Next for the Cincinnati Reds

Cincinnati Reds at Texas Rangers

Sunday, April 28, 2:35 p.m. ET

Andrew Abbott (1-2, 2.60 ERA) vs. Dane Dunning (2-2, 4.61 ERA)

93 Responses

  1. CI3J

    Suter tried his best to give the game away. It’s amazing that he could cruise through the 8th completely unbothered but then pitch like Eric Milton in the 9th.

    • Indy Red Man

      Quit listening, but Bell should’ve pulled him earlier. Nice win though. On pace for 90 wins til we aren’t. We’re still missing a lot of guys, but it feels like everyone else is too

      Go get the series tomorrow!

      • mac624

        You guys just can’t help yourselves. Gotta stick it in Bell every chance you get, even in a dominating performance. Can’t blame a manager for hoping he didn’t have to burn Diaz or any other relief pitcher that game. Next, you’ll be complaining that Diaz is overused. I truly feel sorry for people that simply can’t complain about things. Life is so short, and people are imperfect. Wasting your life complaining is such a problem in society. Sad. We all should do better.

  2. Harry Stoner

    A great performance by Greene on many levels.

    The “Montas Effect”?

    May be a bit premature to consider that he can continue to get by on only his two pitches.

    I’d love to see him string together a series of starts just like this.

    • Ted Alfred

      “Just trusting myself being able to attack the zone,” Greene said. “When you attack the zone, great things happen.”

      Sage advice I hope he can keep following

    • greenmtred

      Apparently 97 of his 98 pitches were fastballs that he dialed back a little to improve his control.

      • greenmtred

        Good grief! I reread the article and it seems that I missed the word “slider.” 97 of Greene’s 98 pitches were fastballs or sliders. There. All better.

      • redfanorbust

        I thought the reason he was pitching poorly because he needed a third pitch and people were sitting on his fastball. What happened to that? Has there been any mention of that after this game?

      • greenmtred

        Sort of. He took a little off the fastball and was able to locate it better than usual.

  3. Mauired

    Cardinals had a similar 9th inning as Reds in New York. They won 4 of 5. Starting to get hot. This division has 5 pretty good teams.

  4. Old-school

    Its a great win against a great team with a superior performance from
    Hunter greene and nice performances from india benson +++

    Not going to focus on Suter hiccup

    ReDs sTiLl HaVeNT bEAT AnYoNe tHoUgH , Other than being 15-12 and winning the season series against 2 time defending nlcs team phillies and beating defending WS champs today

    Hope they win tomorrow against the defending WS champs. A road series win against the World champs and a winning April would be a big statement

    Go reds

    • Mauired

      Well let’s not get ahead of ourselves. They just split with Phillies at home. Nothing special. And Reds have not won the series in Texas but I think they can. Majority of Reds wins this year are still against the dregs of baseball; Nats, White Sox, Angels. But they are playing pretty good baseball right now.

      • MBS

        @Maui, the majority of any teams wins are agains the dregs, that’s why they’re the dregs. You tend to play closer to even with comprable teams as a rule of thumb.

      • Mauired

        Ok but they are 7-11 against contending teams Mets, Mariner, Phillies, Rangers. They are playing good ball right now overall, but the next month is against good teams and I think that’s going to show the reality of this team. I’m hoping they still have a winning record in 30 days. But some people get upset when I point out the obvious. Reds have a winning record against very bad teams and a losing record against anybody respectable trying to field a winning team.

      • Jim Walker

        Winning 4 of 7 versus the Phillies would be a very big deal for the Reds come the end of the season if they are involved in any sort of tie with the Phillies for a playoff spot or playoff seeding.

    • redfanorbust

      Most importantly IMO is they are 15-12 without 3 of their best starters who are out for an extended time. Three other starters hitting .167, .196 and .198 so far this season. Several players out for 2-3 days with illness. Even Steer has gone into a mini slump.

  5. LT

    Ability to bounce back, not let losing streak drag on, is very important to keep the Reds in the hunt. I didn’t watch the game, wonder if Greene mixed in 3rd, 4th pitches that got him the great result today.

    • KYRedsfan

      No 3rd or 4th pitch at all. As Tom stated in the write up. Greene threw all fastballs and sliders. I watched and his pitches had great movement on them and he had excellent command but still only 2 types of pitches thrown.

      • Doc

        How many pitches did Nolan Ryan consistently throw? Fastball. Curveball.

        What does Castillo throw? Fastball. Change Up.

        If you’ve got it, flaunt it.

      • Mauired

        Castillo actually throws change, fb, cutter, and slider. And they aren’t throw away pitches.

      • Still a Red

        He needs a 3rd maybe 4th pitch for sure. But varying his fastball speeds, location, and pitch temp mixed in with his slider inside and backdoor can help until those piches come.

    • LT

      Thank you. Happy for him to get the W but it’s Non sustainable period.

    • JT

      He only threw fastballs and sliders. I’m hoping he can develop more to his pitching arsenal

  6. Rednat

    Good to see India getting it going. It’s almost like needs to have scheduled games off to “reset” himself.

    • Mark Moore

      Coming off whatever bug he contracted didn’t help at all.

      • Still a red

        Heard he lost weight w/ illness.

  7. Mark Moore

    We’ll take the win however we get it. Diaz didn’t really get “burned up” badly tonight, so that shouldn’t be a concern. Plus, Cruz is available.

    Elly needs a day off, but that likely means Espinal at SS and that’s not without complications.

    Back at it tomorrow, Friends. Can finish my evening happy (and well fed).

  8. Mauired

    India with the 4 for 4 raised his average 40 points lol. Bet he’s happy

    • Mauired

      He has another couple days like that and all of a sudden he’s having a great season.

    • JayTheRed

      Going to say it was nice seeing India have a night like that.
      Congrats to Greene 2nd start in a row going 7 innings.
      Maybe Suter is getting a little tired Bell does use him a lot.
      Hoping for a series win tomorrow. Hopefully the B team isn’t all in the lineup.

  9. VaRedsFan

    As a big Greene supporter, I’m glad to see him spit out a performance like this. It doesn’t mean he’s reached the next level or anything, but we’d all like to see him consistently go 7+ innings. Throwing strikes has been the key these last two. Sometimes strikes get hit, sometimes his stuff is so good that they don’t touch it. I’ll still want him to continue to search for an 80-84 mph pitch.

    • Mauired

      Wipeout curve or change couldn’t hurt

    • Harry Stoner

      The Reds have had Mario Soto and Luis Castillo, with two of the best change-ups ever.

      A fantasy that Greene would join that tradition, but one can dream.

      • Mauired

        It would be nice if Castillo was still around to teach him

      • TR

        Without Castillo off to Seattle, the Reds would be probably lacking a lot of young talent and potential. Time will tell.

      • Still a red

        Very effective but not easy to master.

    • Reaganspad

      2nd start in a row at 7 innings.

      Like how he attacked the zone today.

  10. Frankie Tomatoes

    This team could use a hot hitting India. Good to see him have a huge game and give pitchers another guy to think about in the lineup.

    Loved the game by Hunter. Threw strikes and got guys out.

  11. Rednat

    I think Greene can get away with just 2 pitches and be fine. I would like him to add some variation to his fastball. Varying the speed and delivery. ( perhaps adding a Cueto twist to his delivery).
    I actually think last outing against the phillies going 7 despite giving up some runs was a big step in building his confidence

    • Harry Stoner

      Has Texas seen Greene before?

      I’m not sue one way or the other.

      Also not sure that teams that face him more often will be equally overcome.

      He’s had good outings before.

      I’m looking forward to him pulling the 2-pitch strategy off with consistency before I’m convinced that it will be fine.

      Enjoyed today’s performance though!

    • DW

      There will be days where your stuff is really on, and you can rely on two pitches, or even mostly one pitch if it is really dialed in and things are going your way.

      Those days are not often enough to rely on.

      I am very excited about the success he had today, as I have been calling for patience with him. But I definitely think he needs to develop a legitimate third pitch for consistent and sustained success.

    • Soto

      Rednat, I wish I shared your optimism. It was great to see Hunter pound the zone and pitch 7 innings, but from what I have seen so far in his career, I just don’t think two pitches are a sustainable solution for him pitching in GAB. He will strike out a lot of guys but that third time through the lineup will also lead to a lot of balls into the cheap seats. Hope I’m wrong but I still believe the best place for a power pitcher with only two legit pitches is in the backend of the rotation. Like I said, I hope I’m wrong. Go Reds! Win the series and keep pushing forward.

      • Soto

        Meant back end of the bullpen, but maybe it was a freudian slip. His career numbers are that of a 4th or 5th starter.

      • Tom Diesman

        I’d say his career numbers, 99 ERA+ in 52 GS, suggest he’s a #3 starter already as a 24 year old. That would be his floor in my opinion. I wouldn’t argue with someone saying he’s been a #3/#4 to this point though since it takes having park factor adjustments to solidify him as a #3. No way I see him as a #5 up to this point though.

        Yr Greene MLB-SP
        22 4.44 4.05
        23 4.82 4.45
        24 3.63 4.01
        22-23 4.49 4.23

  12. Mauired

    Benson off to a slow start. Still on the interstate with many others. But on the bright side. Leads the team in doubles. Tied with team lead in triples (1) Ha. Second on Reds in extra base hits and homers. 3rd in OPS and steals.

    • Mauired

      Also on pace for 26 homers and 32 steals despite a rough April. Guy could easily have a 30/30 season this year. And people still want to platoon him

      • Indy Red Man

        Jury is still out a little bit on where he best fits? Is he a leadoff man or will he hit lefties enough? He’s definitely got the talent. I’d just hit him 8th or 9th vs lefties until he gets comfortable. Maybe 6th-7th is the best spot for him full-time?

      • Mauired

        I don’t understand why he has been utilized in the top two spots much of the season. He looks out of sorts there just like Elly last year. He’s a power hitter with speed. I think he’s a natural fit around 5-6.

        As far as everyday. Even if he’s average against lefties around a .700 ops (currently .713). How do you bench a guy that could go 30/30, hold his own against lefties, play good d, and have one of the top ops on team? That’s not a platoon player.

        He has been benched for Bubba Thompson 4 times. Reds are 1-3 and Bubba is 1 for 12. Nothing against Bubba. I actually love what he brings as the 26th man as a late inning weapon for pinch running and defense. But to start him over Benson is silly.

      • Tom Diesman

        Regarding Benson not being a platoon player and holding his own against lefties. If we were to buy into your premise that Benson has now solved hitting against LH pitchers based on his .713 OPS this year in 28 PAs, despite his career.490 OPS in 78 PA. Should we also now believe that based on his .712 OPS this year against RHs in 74 PAs is his new level of performance against RHs despite his career .835 OPS in 414 PAs?

    • JayTheRed

      The Reds actually have several players now who are over the .200 mark now. Starting to see some life from some of the guys who have struggled early.

      • TR

        It’s a long season with a lot of ups and downs, like many things in life, that can become a grind. But the playoff winners get beyond the pressure to perform.

  13. Dennis Westrick

    Outstanding, truly outstanding effort by Hunter Greene! And, welcome back Jonathan India!

  14. Brian

    I’m not a fan of India. He had a great game and I really hope that he continues.
    I’ve been really down on Greene, thinking that he had not shown signs of ever being a legit no. 1 or 2. He’s shown a lot the last 2 weeks. I’m not a homer and will criticize players but when the same guys have great games then I will sing their praises. It was good to be wrong about both on this day!

  15. Dennis Westrick

    Somewhat ironic that the Reds score 8 runs and win with EDLC going 0-5!

    • David

      You know….it happens. If you have enough good players in the lineup, some guys that you depend on will have a rough night, but somebody else picks up the slack.
      Steer was hot for a couple of weeks, cooling off now, but other guys are picking it up.

      People have been down on India, but tonight he has a great night. Give him enough at bats, and he will probably end up at his career average.

      Benson leading off is somewhat reminiscent of Bobby Bonds with the Giants in the 1970’s. Power and speed leading off. When you flip the lineup over, Benson may come to bat with people on base.

    • JayTheRed

      wow I missed that. That has to be rare this season.

  16. RedsGettingBetter

    It’s important to the Reds have others contributors in the wins so they don’t always rely on just EDLC and Steer. India and Benson bounced back and Martini provided too… Reds need them all can hit.
    Elly de la Crush had a awful day offensively but helped defending good.
    Expect the hitters stay hot for tomorrow, good chance to win the series if Abbott also can hold Rangers off…

    • Doc

      When did Steer last contribute to a win? He was lights out early in the season, but has dropped about 100 points and falling on his BA in the past 7-10 days, with no power and virtually no rbi. It’s a slump, and I’m not demeaning him, he’ll come around, but the Reds have won a bunch of games since he slumped. Implying that they are always depending on EDLC and Steer is, in my view, somewhat demeaning to the rest of the players.

      On the bright side, with Friedl ready to start his rehab assignment, maybe the tide will turn a bit. I doubt many would have predicted the Reds to be 15-12 at this stage without Friedl, Marte and McClain.

      • VaRedsFan

        You obviously are not watching many games or Steer AB’s, just preferring to draw conclusions from a box score.

        He’s stung more than a handful of balls over the last week+.
        It’s about process, and his is still good.
        Thinking someone is going bat .450 all year is beyond being unrealistic.

      • RedsGettingBetter

        I am not really demeaning any player just remarking the two players have carried the offense at different times so far, however I know the Reds have players providing offensively but very inconsistently as CES, Benson, Stephenson and so on or Have they been frequent contributors ?. The other good hitter is Fraley but has been out much time…

  17. Frank Beuter

    I don’t understand all the negative posts. The Reds are without three everyday starters, a couple relievers, have a winning record, and play hard every game. Let’s give them some slack. They will be okay.

  18. LT

    Catch them at the right time. Texas does not look like the team winning WS last year…yet. Win tomorrow, win the series, and heading West on a 2 game winning streak. I’ll catch the game in person Tuesday night. Can’t wait

  19. Optimist

    Organization went 5-0 on the day – when is the last time that happened?

  20. JB WV

    Hope Stephenson is ok. Maile had to finish the game after he was plunked on the wrist. Just when he’s starting to heat up at the plate.

    • VaRedsFan

      Yeah, it didn’t look good.
      Hopefully nothing is broken.

    • JayTheRed

      Watching the game his hand looked really swollen. Like everyone else hope he is ok. We need him. We can’t afford anymore broken bones on this team.

  21. Will Henry

    Here is my suggestion for Reds lineup vs RHSP until Friedl return:
    Stephenson (if avail.)

    If Stephenson is out, move Candy & Espinal up with Maile 9th

    Benson’s OBP & SLG could really be productive in the 3 hole.

    • Indy Red Man

      Not bad, but I think get Blake Dunn in there vs lefties….maybe 9th. Bubba Thompson doesn’t help us much. I’d keep Benson at leadoff for righties for now. I don’t know about him as an rbi man because he’s so careful at the plate. If India can run then I’d play him at 2B and phase out Espinal too. Martini has a functional swing with some lift and might get it going again or maybe they try Capel, Ford, or Dunn vs righties too. Bell gets Steer out of LF in crunch time so maybe Espinal could replace India in the same way late.

      Side note…just read Ford went to Princeton. Interesting…although Ryan Fitzpatrick went to Harvard and scored a perfect Wonderlic test, but still threw some of the dumbest interceptions ever seen…lol

      • JayTheRed

        I like India batting 1st and Benson batting 9th. Espinal if he is starting should bat 8th. Other than the Rest of the lineup I could care less.

  22. Jason T.

    Now that’s some run production!
    Tough loss last night, now let’s win this series tomorrow. This was a great response today.
    Shocked, pleasantly, by India! What a game. Good to see Benson get some hits. Believe he’ll be fine. Just cut down on those k’s.
    Hunter Greene. Nice work and now an era under 4. Hope he keeps after a third effective pitch but nice job!
    Suter had been pitching so well. Stuff happens. Let’s move on. His numbers say that he’ll be back on track.
    Hope Stephenson is ok.
    Let’s keep rolling!

  23. JA

    From MLB stats, Hunter’s split were:

    71 4 seam fb
    26 sliders
    1 splitter

    He allowed 1 hit ?

    • Indy Red Man

      So I read earlier that Nolan Ryan only threw 2 pitches. That might be true about his days with the Angels or Houston, but I’m not sure. He definitely threw alot of circle changes with the Rangers because the fb dipped a little with age. Remember though he got clocked at 102.9 once with the Angels when the average heater might’ve been 90. HG throwing 98 today isn’t a huge deal for the hitters and what happens when he gets a little older and the heater is 95? Bottom line is if he ever wants to even come close to his potential then he needs a 3rd pitch and probably show a 4th occasionally. Changeup, Split, Curve, change speeds on the slider..i.e slurve, knuckle-curve…something?

  24. Soto

    I absolutely agree. Or just make him a setup man or closer. Time will tell. Hope we are both wrong, but I doubt it. I would be interested in knowing what his career numbers look like the third time through the lineup. Major league hitters can hit the fastball. Got to have something to keep them off of it. But he was dealing yesterday. Go Reds.

  25. 44Reds

    Seems like the key for Greene is having his slider working and being able to move the fastball up and down. He changed eye levels a lot in this game. If he can do that I don’t think he needs a third pitch. Previous game against Philly he didn’t seem to have a good slider and his fastball was in the fat part of the zone early on.

  26. LDS

    Good morning all. Good to see a win and picking up a game in the standings. I don’t see Candelario listed anywhere as sick or injured, so kudos to Bell for not starting him. I think he left Suter in the game way too long. I hate such moves. If Pete Rose were still managing, we’d be asking whether he was covering the spread. With Bell, we chalk it up to not being a good manager, particularly of the bullpen. Win the series with Texas. It’ll give me bragging rights with a friend in Austin. She and I grew up in the same town and she gave up the Reds for the Rangers. Sacrilege.

    • Harry Stoner

      Well, if it were long enough ago that your friend was a Strangers fan at the original stadium, then some props are due her.

      That place was a solar collector, a convection oven.

      Not a breeze to be found.

      Hottest place I’ve ever been in. And I’ve been to bullfights in Spain and sat through operas in old Roman colosseums.

      We’ve been in Austin since the mid 70s but for my enjoyable sojourn in Cincinnati in the early 80s.

      • Old-school


        Spent a week in St Louis at a youth baseball WS in mid July years ago. The Bathrooms had AC at a complex pujols helped fund and i would pathetically go every inning to cool off. That was a brutal week with 114 heat index. Id have to think the old astroturf busch stadium in the 1980’s was brutal for a Sunday matinee.

      • Harry Stoner

        We went to a game at one of the St. Louis Buschs. Maybe Busch 2?

        We were up for a wedding. In July.

        It was hotter than Texas.

        Too hot to drink beer even.

      • Old-school

        Younger son then at the hotel

        “Dad, can we go to the pool?”

        No… its too hot to swim

    • greenmtred

      Far better, of course, to burn up the bullpen when you have a substantial lead.

      • LDS

        It’s never a good idea to let a pitcher be hammered regardless of the lead. And we have seen the Reds blow big leads more than once in the last couple of years. The manager has to disrupt the other team’s cadence/momentum. The “he’ll work through it” idea has failed repeatedly in the last few years. And in the end, he had to use a second pitcher anyway. Had he made the change earlier, Suter would have logged fewer pitches and would be available sooner than he likely is now.

      • greenmtred

        You know this how? As you always do, you endow opinions with the certainty that facts deserve. Suter is a veteran pitcher and has certainly given up multiple runs in appearances before this.

      • greenmtred

        All teams blow big leads from time to time.

  27. LarkinPhillips

    HGs arm angle is directly over the top and he likes to throw fastballs af the top of the zone. A 12-6 curve is the easiest pitch to add at this arm angle and also would make his high fastball play up even more. The splitter he is working on would act similarly. Adding either in at 10-15% of pitch percentage would make a drastic difference. Doesn’t have to be filthy. Just be able to throw for a strike in thr mid to low 80s.

  28. Greenfield Red

    My opinion: It does not matter how many pitches a guy throws if he can change speeds and locate the pitches he throws.

    • Jim Walker

      +1000. I heard the late Tom Seaver say numerous times that pitching was about 1)location, 2)movement, and 3)velocity in that order of importance.

      Nowadays with the spin doctors, everything seems to be based on velocity and movement because they think hitters won’t be able to make solid contact in the zone and will be fooled into chasing out of the zone.

      I suspect a lot of pitching gurus are going to rue the day ABS arrives at MLB and batters realize the robot umpire isn’t going to be fooled like human umps often are by big-time breaking balls which are never in the vertical and horizontal zones simultaneously.

  29. Harry Stoner

    “…. hitters won’t be able to make solid contact in the zone and will be fooled into chasing out of the zone.”

    Which may have something to do with the Reds’ high K rate.