Some nights it feels like it’s Elly De La Cruz’s world and we’re all just living in it. Tuesday night was one of those nights as the 22-year-old made several highlight reel plays in the field, picked up his league best 12th stolen base, and he homered as the Cincinnati Reds topped the Philadelphia Phillies 8-1 to even up the series.

Final R H E
Philadelphia Phillies (15-9)
1 5 3
Cincinnati Reds (13-10)
8 9 1
W: Cruz (1-1) L: Sanchez (1-3)
Statcast | Box Score | Game Thread

Andrew Abbott got the first two hitters of the game out with ease, but then J.T. Realmuto and Alec Bohm hit back-to-back doubles to put the Phillies up 1-0. The Reds were able to get that run back in the bottom half of the frame on a Christian Encarnacion-Strand RBI double.

Two innings later the Cincinnati offense got back to work. Tyler Stephenson walked and came around to score on a single by Encarnacion-Strand, who moved up to third base on a throwing error on the play. Elly De La Cruz followed with a walk and then stole second base. Nick Martini hit a grounder up the middle, but both runners scored and he took second base on an error. Santiago Espinal then capped off the inning with an RBI single of his own, making it 5-1.

Andrew Abbott took his new lead and threw a perfect 4th inning. But when he came back out for the 5th he was struggling to find the strikezone and walked the bases loaded with no outs. That brought Kyle Schwarber to the plate and Abbott won the left-on-left matchup with a strikeout, but it was the last hitter he could face. Cincinnati turned to Fernando Cruz to try and strand all three runners. That plan worked out as he struck out Trea Turner and then got J.T. Realmuto to fly out to center to end the inning.

In the bottom of the 5th inning the Reds got yet another hit from Christian Encarnacion-Strand – hit third of the day – before Elly De La Cruz clobbered a 2-run home run into the seats in left-center to make it a 7-1 game. The next inning De La Cruz made a nice play on a short hop chopper to turn an inning-ending double play. An inning later he made another highlight reel catch.

After Buck Farmer threw two shutout innings of relief, Cincinnati turned the game over to Emilio Pagan in the 8th with a 6-run lead. He tossed a perfect top of the 8th inning. In the bottom of the inning the Reds padded their lead when Santiago Espinal connected for his first homer of the year that made it 8-1. Sam Moll then entered the game in the 9th inning, making his season debut in the process. The lefty had to work around two singles, but he tossed a shutout inning to deal the win.

Key Moment of the Game

Fernando Cruz entering the game in the 5th inning and stranding all three runners on the bases. That was the opportunity for the Phillies to get back in the game and he slammed that door.

Notes Worth Noting

Santiago Espinal had a 3-hit night. He had been 1-for the last seven games.

Will Benson went 1-4, snapping an 0-18 skid.

Reds relievers threw 58 pitches and 41 of those were for strikes (71%).

The top four hitters in the lineup went 1-16. They did manage two walks and one hit by pitch.

Up Next for the Cincinnati Reds

Philadelphia Phillies vs Cincinnati Reds

Wednesday April 24th, 6:40pm ET

Spencer Turnbull (2-0, 1.23 ERA) vs Nick Lodolo (2-0, 0.75 ERA)

115 Responses

    • jon

      How good would this team be with a healthy Mclain,Marte and Friedl?

      • Aaron

        how much of Marte was his dumb use of PEDs? We will find out

      • DW

        I’m assuming Marte’s PED use was related to his recovery from the hamstring injury. Could be wrong but that seems logical.

  1. Mark Moore

    Let’s see if Lodolo can come out of the gate with the same poise and stuff we saw the last time. That would be HUGE.

  2. David

    And Santiago “Tito” Espinal had a pretty good night, too.
    (I just made up the Tito nickname)

    I think he heard people here talking about him. 😉

    • DW

      Haha! I was thinking the same thing. I bad mouthed him this morning and there are the results…anyone that you would like me to badmouth for tomorrow’s game?

    • Harry Stoner

      “Jim” might be appropriate.

      Santiago = James.

    • JayTheRed

      This is the Espinal I remember with the Blue Jays… But you know he took it one step further, He hit a homerun too! Now that is not something I expect from him at all.

      Crossing my fingers that he is going to be more consistent with his hitting like he used to be.

      • wkuchad

        I hope you’re right. We will continue to need him at times until Marte back.

    • MK

      It appears he is fitting in well with the team, which can be tough for a new guy walking into a tight knit group.

  3. Melvin

    “Some days it feels like it’s we’re all just living in the world of Elly De La Cruz.”

    Superstar in the making. 🙂

    • Ted Alfred

      You can just see Elly seems so much more relaxed at the plate…the anxiety is gone. He’s not lunging and swinging at bad pitches…. I would imagine the percentage of balls he’s swinging at outside the zone is so much better than it was last year.

      One last thing… I’m no David Bell fan, but I really like the way he’s managing this year all the way around compared to his last couple of years. For the most part the lineups/batting orders are making more sense and he’s quicker to change things that aren’t working throughout. He’s also generally handling the starters/bullpen much better than last year, so I hope he keeps going down this general path. Getting Friedl back in 2-3 weeks should be HUGE.

      • Doc

        Either that or the players are playing better and it makes his moves look better, even though they are similar to moves he made last year.

      • TR

        Winning tends to make managers look good.

      • Justin T

        I think Bell does a decent enough job early on, later in the year is where you see his faults more. But this year is different?! Heres hoping. I know how hard his job is, my only ask of that man is to get out of the way and let his players play. I understand there may be a method to his madness, but the second half results in years past raise an eyebrow or two. It’s no fun to constantly complain about the man, we are stuck with him for better or worse.

        Just happy to discuss it when the team is winning like they are. The bullpen this year could be the difference, lets just hope their arms are attached later in the year. Itd be something to see if they can roll through the tough schedule coming up w a winning record.

      • greenmtred

        Agree, Doc and TR. I expect that a manager’s moves are dictated in large part by the players he has at his disposal.

    • BK

      And a pretty good SS … not too many guys can make those plays defensively.

      • wkuchad

        lol, Melvin even you have to admit EDLC needs to stay at SS since both McLain and Marte are unavailable.

      • Melvin

        wkuchad – I absolutely agree buddy. There is no one else. lol

    • Still a Red

      Just wish he didn’t stand there and admire the HR that didn’t clear by much…pretty embarrassing if it hit the top of the wall.

      • greenmtred

        In that event, he would have had to settle for an inside the park homer.

  4. Mauired

    That was a dream game. Bell put his best (available) players on the field. Benson didn’t get on base against the lefty but at least he broke out his hitless streak later in the game. I’m sure having a couple at bats earlier was good him. They need to get him going. Bell also had the magic hand with the pitching tonight. He managed to pull the guys at the right time. I would say he was the MVP of the game with his moves. I like how he uses Cruz to get out of jams in the middle of the game. Seems to work out most of time. And with the offensive breakthrough, was great to watch Farmer eat up a couple innings with the game pretty much locked up. Listening to Antone for a few minutes was pretty cool too. I hope he becomes a regular this year.

    • Jason T.

      Nice assessment.
      Bell did a great job. Bullpen has been on fire lately, even Farmer pitched 2 solid innings.
      Nice to see Moll return.
      Happy for CES. Feel like he’ll have a monster season. He has all the tools. And was great to see Espinal get some hits including that homer.
      Antone is an absolute class act all the way. Helluva human being and has the smarts to go far. Extremely well spoken.
      Huge night tonight and gain momentum after last night.

    • JayTheRed

      I was happy to see Moll continue his nice pitching streak from last year.

      • MK

        A good example of not getting too excited about rehab performances. Moll wasn’t sharp during rehab assignment causing many costernation. But it was his Spring Training for him versus guys who had been through a full Spring Training.

    • Still a Red

      I realize your overall appraisal of Bell is unlikely to change, but your unqualified (meaning no ‘buts’ included) compliments are duly noted.
      PS. I’m not a Bell apologist, just have a different opinion on how much better the team would be without him.

      • Mauired

        Well if he continues to put his best available players on the field and pulls his pitcher before the 3 run homer instead of after, I’m a fan. That’s great managing and it leads to fun winning baseball like last night. He showed he’s capable.

    • Justin T

      I agree regarding Antone, he was a natural and very insightful. Could def see him coaching at a high level when his career winds down, he understand pitching and todays pitchers as well.

  5. Kevin Patrick

    Some days I would decide to not even bother if Turnbull is on his game….except Lodolo has been pretty good lately too! Great to get two innings from Farmer.

    • David

      Well, Turnbull might be having a career year, or the roof might fall in on him some night, and he reverts more to his career statistics.

  6. Andrew Brewer

    The Phillies are beatable just like every other team in baseball. And the Reds have shown time and time again that they can do it. They had the magic last year, and are still showing flashes of that “Je ne sais pas”. You go out on the field to win and put together what it takes when the occasion arises. We didn’t let them get back in it today.
    Win the psychological battle and beat the other team down mentally. We are on equal terms with any team we play.

    • Mauired

      Well they do get to put out the stronger lefty lineup out there the next two games so who knows maybe a series win is possible but with the Martinez Wheeler matchup I’m going to hedge and think a split is probable.

      Speaking of lefty lineup, can anyone explain maybe Doug since he watched him a lot in minors. Why is Elly god like from the left handed side but pedestrian batting right handed? It seems odd to me since he’s right handed.

      • David

        I think that is typical for most switch hitters, whether it was Mickey Mantle or Pete Rose. As the majority of pitchers are right handed, you just get more at bats left handed, so your left handed stroke gets a lot more work.
        Mickey had a great left handed swing, but his right handed swing had some holes in “reach” or contact, and he tended to upper cut more with his right handed swing.
        I think Pete was a natural right handed hitter too, and taught himself to hit left handed (pretty young). I think if you look at his career splits, his left handed BA was a lot higher than his right handed BA.

      • Mauired

        Pete only 14 points higher batting lefty. His OPS batting lefty was 68 points higher so it was his stronger side but he was good from both sides.

        Mantle still switch hitting home run king over fifty years after retiring. Also only switch hitter with a triple crown. He had some interesting splits. Batting right his batting average was actually 48 points higher. He had an incredible .330 career batting average righty. Despite hitting 70% of his homers off righties, his slugging and on base percentages were pretty even. His OPS batting right handed was 32 points better.

        Obviously comparing a few months of Elly in the beginning of his career with the careers of two of the greatest switch hitters of all time is just a little unfair but so far this year, the difference in ops for Elly is 529 points.

  7. JB

    Pagan is shaping up to be a good sign. After opening day he has given up only 2 runs in 9 innings. Bullpen is turning into a nice strength. Guys are understanding their roles.

    • JayTheRed

      I was waiting for someone to post this. A few weeks ago, many here wanted Pagan gone. lol. Goes to show guys can be successful pitchers even if they have a bad night or two. I have liked the pickup since day one.

      • Justin T

        Anyone wanting him gone after one bad outing is just belly aching. His tendency to let balls fly outta the park hasnt shown up yet and hopefully it doesnt. But anytime a team like the Reds pay a middle reliever 8 mill a year, it will be scrutinized. Especially when you got a guy like Suter for pennies, relatively speaking.,

    • Mauired

      He’s becoming more dependable but not sure if having a dependable middle reliever for 8 million is a good sign. But inflation has been pretty crazy the last couple years. Maybe that’s what 8 million buys now.

      • Optimist

        I look at it more from the group view, the group being the 3 relievers they acquired – Martinez, Pagan, Suter – dollar wise it’s $$$, $$, $ in that order, but if they’re consistently good as a group, or flash better, it’s well worth the average cost.

      • MBS

        @Optimist, that’s a good point that Suter helps even out the perceived overpay for Pagan.

        That trio is also bringing a ton of experience to the pen. Pagan has closer experience, and that is a valuable commodity. Suter, and Martinez can go grab you 3 IP on a night saving the rest of the pen.

      • Mauired

        Now when it comes to Suter, that’s a great signing. 3 million for him is an underpay. So yeah I guess there is some evening out if Reds are paying 11 million for Suter and Pagan. In that case I think Pagan owes Suter a few game checks.

  8. RedsGettingBetter

    Elly de la CRUSH , hit for power, walked, run for stealing and fielding , in short, he showed why he is considered a five-tool player
    Fernando Cruz is a hidden figure of this win…I can’t be more agree about the key moment of this article…
    CES & Espinal waking up? Reds need them as Benson too…

    • Mauired

      Maybe this is a crazy hot take but is it me or is Elly looking like a contender for NL MVP? Super early for all that, but he’s evolving so fast defensively and offensively. Tied with Pete Alonso for second in MLB for home runs. Tied for 1st in MLB in steals. Tied for fourth in MLB in OPS. His patience and pitch recognition is night and day from last year. He’s even starting to look very strong with the glove.

      • Daytonnati

        As long as the Red contend, Elly has a shot. He is the straw that stirs the drink.

      • MBS

        I’m trying to temper my excitement with EDLC. His talent is immense, so it’s tempting to get carried away, but the longer he stays locked in the harder it is to suppress it.

        I was saying he’s got a legit shot of being a 30 / 30 guy, with the potential to be a 40 / 40 guy in the future. Now I’m starting to think he’s got a legit shot at 40 / 40 guy this year, with being the potential of being 1st ever 50 / 50 guyl in the near future.

      • Mauired

        He’s on pace for 49 homers and 84 steals. He’s had a power surge and slowed down a little in the last 10 days. I think before he was on pace for like 25 homers and close to 100 steals. I’ll take the homers but 100 steals would be something not done since the 80s. But 40/80 and 50/80 clubs don’t even exist so guess that would be just fine. Just ridiculous what this kid might do in his first full season. If only Boras wasn’t his agent Reds could just sign him for the next ten years or so.

      • Nick in NKY

        Didn’t Acuna do 40/70 last season? A similar Elly season on a contending Reds team would certainly merit similar recognition.

        I remain fairly steadfast in my belief that his long-term defensive positioning is in the OF, but I have to admit that he looked good running into short left for a popup. He’s certainly good enough at SS that defensive performance shouldn’t sink his superstar status.

  9. SteveAReno

    Fernando Cruz was put in an almost impossible position and came out smelling like a rose to get the win he deserves.

    • Westfester

      Like Antoine said on the broadcast, ” the splitter’s coming, we know it, you know it, yet you’ll swing at it every time.”

  10. Indy Red Man

    Watched the Philly broadcast and they were talking it up like they were really on a heater. They played the Rockies and the White Sox. Probably the 2 worst teams in baseball. Philly is also missing Harper….don’t know when he’ll be back?

    Happy for CES and Espinal. Remember that one year Jerry Hairston Jr. killed it for the Reds. It would be nice to big production out of a utility guy like Martini or Espinal.
    Agree that Bell seems a little quicker to change things up too…had Elly batting 2nd vs a righty the other day. On the topic of Elly….thinking he might need to go lefty full-time. He goes well the other way so rolling over left-on-left isn’t really a problem and he seems to swing over breaking balls batting righty almost every single time. They know not to give him anything out over the plate.

    • VaRedsFan

      Harper on paternity leave.
      He’ll be back Thursday

    • Randy in Chatt

      The TV booth said that Harper is on maternity leave and is back tomorrow.

      • Randy in Chatt

        VA beat……yeah I guess you would call it paternity leave. If it was maternity leave, then that would really be something.

  11. Oldtimer

    I have Scout Club seats behind home plate Wednesday night and Thursday afternoon. Friend from Knoxville is coming up to see Phillies (he is Pennsylvania born and raised).

    Average ticket cost is $95 but worth every penny. Had same seating area last year for White Sox games on May 5 & 6. Friend from South Carolina (who is White Sox fan) came up for those games.

    Probably my only Reds games of the year.

    • CFD3000

      I live a long way from GABP (Atlanta and Asheville) and only make one trip a year to see the Reds so I feel you Oldtimer and I hope you have fantastic weather and two excellent games – with exciting Reds wins of course. Your PA friend will be fine! Go Reds!

    • VaRedsFan

      Have fun Oldtimer.
      My boy is stationed at Wright-Pat AFB in Dayton. I’ll be making my third trek in 3 years to visit and catch a few games. June 21-22 vs the Red Sox.

    • TR

      The great White Sox player, Shoeless Joe Jackson, was a native of South Carolina. There’s a Museum and Baseball Library dedicated to him in Greenville, S.C.

    • Oldtimer

      Great seats. Great weather but a little chilly when the sun went down. Great clutch hitting by Reds. Nice W tonight.

      Only quibble was no coffee or hot chocolate at concession stands.

  12. RedlegScott

    Kudos to Cruz. If Diaz falters, we got our guy.

  13. Reddawg2012

    This team is like a box of chocolates. Never know what you’re going to get.

    Two drastically different performances the last two nights. I guess that’s baseball.

    Go Reds!

    • Mauired

      Maybe because Antone was in the booth calling the game.

    • JA

      Reds are a young unpredictable team so far.
      Ranger Suarez, who is in a great shape at the moment, had an stellar appearance and that counts as well for that miserable day

  14. Rednat

    I actually consider EDLC to be a potential 6 tool player
    -run, catch ,throw, hit for average , hit for power and the 6th tool is durability. i like his ability to play every day.
    Eric Davis was a great 5 tool player but his lack of durability cost him what likely would have been a hall of fame career and possibly another reds championship.
    the only guy we have that approaches a 6 tool player that i can think of was Vada Pinson. the guy rarely missed a game that i can remember. I love Vada but EDLC Has a higher ceiling in my opinion.

    • Melvin

      ” i like his ability to play every day.”

      Good thought. 🙂

      • Louis Wu

        You can thank playing on the cement turf of Riverfront, Three Rivers, Veteran’s stadiums and the like for shortening Eric Davis’s career. Nobody played harder than that guy and it cost him.

  15. Rednat

    give some credit for this win to Hunter Greene plowing through 7 innings yesterday to have the bullpen at full strength today. shutting down the Phills in the 6th and 7th yesterday was huge. he probably could have pitched the 8th. he was still throwing 98

    • TR

      There’s nothing in baseball like a strong, reliable bullpen. GM Krall did a good job in the offseason to strengthen it. If the bullpen stays reasonably injury free, the Reds will be in the playoff hunt come September.

    • VaRedsFan

      I would also give credit to tonight’s pen participants (Cruz/Pagan/Farmer/Moll), for keeping the Phils far enough away to give Diaz and Suter an extra day of rest.

  16. Old-school

    If u throw out Legumina 3 runs in mondays blow out(2 important innings tho to save the pen) reds bullpen has thrown 19.2 scoreless innings since friday. 15 scoreless in the Angels sweep and 4.2 scoreless against a good phils team

    Thats getting it done

    Need Lodolo to give some length today to keep the pen strong

    • wkuchad

      Agree about the pen! And agree about Lodolo, especially with Martinez pitching tomorrow. I doubt he’ll be able to go too deep into the game.

  17. Pat

    Hunter Greene has a tremendous upside, but also a big downsize. He basically has 2 pitches. I’m thinking fastball and slider. Major league hitters feast on fastballs. After 3 innings they set back and wait for a fastball they can hit. That’s why he’s prone to give up homer’s. He needs to develop a curve ball and change up. Then you can call him a pitcher and not just a thrower. Just my opinion.

    • Redsvol

      @pat, I think it’s useful to remember how little experience Hunter has in professional baseball. I was listening to the lockedonreds pod and they mentioned how he has just eclipsed 450 innings in total. And as comparison Luis Castillo had 540 innings in minor league ball before promotion.

      Thru that lens, Hunter really ought to be viewed differently. He shouldn’t even be considered a top of the rotation starter yet. He should be in AAA practicing throwing his off speed stuff.

      He is infuriating because we’ve been told he is our best starter for 3 years. He isn’t, and shouldn’t have been put in that position. He is an inexperienced pitcher with a magical arm that is 1 to 2 years away from getting into his prime.

      I am convinced he will eventually be very good. But he needs experience and probably a better defensive catcher to throw to that demands he throw his off speed stuff more.

      • Pat

        I agree with you. I certainly haven’t given up on Hunter. I believe he will be a great pitcher when he’s given the opportunity to add more witch’s to his repertoire instead of a steady stream of fastballs.

    • VaRedsFan

      He’s been effectively throwing a curve ball in the 80-85 mph range. He’s just not using it enough IMO. Hitters are ably to sit on anything hard. He needs to be able to add/subtract speeds.
      I have faith that he will.

  18. Klugo

    At the beginning of the season, I thought (out loud) that EDLC shouldve started in the minors.
    I was wrong.

    • CFD3000

      Respect, Klugo. Not enough of us can admit we were wrong, but props to you for owning it. Another example of why RLN is such a terrific community. BTW I’m wrong all the time. I thought the league would figure out Andrew Abbott pretty quickly. Certainly not yet!

      • VaRedsFan

        I thought I was wrong once….turns out I was mistaken. 😉

  19. Still a Red

    no CES in notes worth noting? I wouldn’t read to much into last night’s performance, but given the heat he is taking, I think an honorable mention would be in order.

    • Harry Stoner

      Folks here have been projecting EDLC’s current production numbers out over the extent of the season.

      It’s fun, however fanciful. I hope it comes to pass.

      But despite CES’s low BA, if we do the same thing, he’ll wind up with 40+ 2bs, 20+ hrs and 100+ rbis.

      That’s not too shabby.

      • Jason T.

        CES has huge upside. He absolutely scorches the ball. He’s been the victim at times of hard contact right at the defense.
        I do think he’s fully capable of using all parts of the ballpark and not just a pull hitter.
        I think he’s a .300+ avg, 30+ doubles and 30+ home run talent. That should drive in lots of runs too.
        He’s playing well defensively at first too.

      • VaRedsFan

        CES can, and should use all parts of the field. He was a little pull happy earlier this year. Launch angle seemed to be an issue too.

        In his last 11 games hes .295/.305/.455.
        He’s not walking much.
        I think I remember that was one of the reasons he was in the minors for so long last year, and he immediately fixed it.

        I’m buying all the CES stock I can get.

      • Still a red

        On his 1st inning double he rifled a sinking low inside pitch opposite way down first base line…on purpose??.
        Impressive nonrheless

    • DW

      CES has 16 RBI’s on the season. That puts him in the top 25 of all MLB. If he is producing that many runs while “struggling”, imagine what we may see. He is an RBI machine. As I’ve said many times…Pete Alonso. Though I believe he will hit for higher average than Alonso does.

    • Mauired

      If CES can take a lesson from Elly and his new found patience at the plate, he too will be an MVP contender.

  20. LDS

    It’s good to get a win. But it’s also fun to watch the mercurial reactions here to a little success. Let’s hope it continues.

    • MBS

      @LDS, you never know when success will happen, so you should enjoy it when it does.

      Steer is rock solid, EDLC’s K rate is falling, and his BB rate is climbing. CES seems to be waking up.

      Lodolo, and Abbott are looking like stoppers, Cruz is performing excellent as the fireman, and Diaz is starting to lock in again.

      • Harry Stoner

        With a potential “fireman” option in Cruz, we might see Bell’s approach to using the bullpen change for the better.

        I can’t recall when the Reds had someone reliable they could bring in to shut the competition down right now as Cruz has done a few times lately.

        Countless examples of Reds relievers coming in clearly unprepared to pitch and walking (or hitting) the first batter.

        Add in a viable multi-inning options in Martinez and possibly Pagan and hopefully we’ll be seeing a lot less of Bell’s fixation with playing one-inning “Russian Roulette” with a series of relievers.

      • MBS

        @Harry, I’d say the closest guy would be Antone pre TJ#2.

        Antone 2021: 220 ERA+, *33IP*, 21IR, 8IR_S

        Cruz 2024: 237 ERA+, *9.2IP*, 11IR, 2IR_S

        Cruz is operating at an elite level right now, Antone added some length to his outings, but we’re getting length from Suter, and Martinez. Cruz is being more stingy in Inherited Runners Scored, but it’s over a much shorter time period.

    • Mauired

      I’m hard on them when they play/manage poorly so I have to give them credit when they do well and last night was a surprise. To dominate a team that made back to back national league championships was fun to watch. The Reds made the Phillies look like the Reds. They played very good defense. Candelario had a couple plays that weren’t great but he’s been one of the better defenders this year. Lineup card was the best Bell could write considering half the hitters are injured, suspended, or sick. He stayed away from throwing the 26 man in there just because he hits right handed. And he took Abbott out of the 5th with the bases loaded. I’ve seen way too many times to count, Bell just sitting in the dugout in that situation with the hope that the pitcher will just dig deep and find a way and the guy throws a diminished FB right over the plate and bye bye ball, bye bye game. To just say you know what this guy is done let’s bring in Cruz was surprising and refreshing and long overdue. Let’s just hope this game wasn’t an outlier but a sign of some positive growth.

  21. 50thyearRedsfan

    Why is it every starting pitcher we face seems to have an era below 3 or below 2? It is hard to criticize our batters too much when they have faced such good pitching and last night they finally came through against one of those tough starters. I think our bats will continue to be hit and miss and I will try not to be too frustrated with them when they suffer a horrible night at the plate because it is a streaky game and good pitching is hard to counter even for good hitters.

  22. Jim Walker

    A good win. The Phillies defense gave the Reds an opportunity; and, the Reds turned it into a 4 run inning which tilted the game in their favor.

    FWIW or not, the Reds often seem to have better outcomes when their manager has fewer options to work with. Just saying….

    • greenmtred

      So it’s actually good that Friedl, McLain and Marte aren’t available?

      • Jim Walker

        No, of course not. T hey would be better with those guys instead of some of the guys they have now. My suggestion is he does better when he doesn’t have enough pieces to mico manage.

      • Jim Walker

        micro manage, not mico manage above

      • greenmtred

        I know, Jim. My attempts at humor frequently fall flat.

    • David

      Well, David Bell likes to “fiddle” with the lineup. He probably has some spreadsheets that show each player’s relative performance against RH and LH pitching, etc.
      So he uses that to “manage”.
      I think what Jim means is that the Reds do fine if David Bell just stands back and let’s them play. Well, maybe. 😉
      Yeah, I wish TJ Friedl, Matt McLain and Marte were on the roster and playing, but that is not the case. Every team has injury problems, etc.
      Friedl will be back “soon”. I hope his wrist is strong and he will return to last year’s form. Marte will be back in 57 games (23 played of his 80 game suspension). Probably will need to play a few weeks at AAA to get sharp hitting.
      Matt McLain….I dunno. It may take a year for his shoulder to rehab and be strong again…I hope. Honestly, he may never be right again.

      • Jim Walker

        Yes on what I meant. In particular, I do not believe a team with 2 or even 3 (counting DH) platoon based positions will do as well over time as a team that platoons perhaps 1 spot and uses true “everyday” players in all the other spots.

        And if a team reaches the postseason, heavy reliance on platoon matching can be a death knell versus a squad with a handedness balanced bullpen. Everyone marveled at the Dodgers platoon matching back before the pandemic; but, in the marveling, it gets forgotten that the Dodgers lost that series with some of their best players on the bench unavailable in late leverage situations.

      • Mauired

        Yeah, I imagine it’s difficult for hitters to get hot or locked in at the plate when they are not playing consistently. I think players should given significant opportunity and time to prove they deserve to be a platoon player. It’s interesting how some guys seem to be afforded that opportunity and some guys don’t but that’s how life works.

  23. Jason T.

    Speaking of pitching and specifically the bullpen, when Montas comes back who is sent out? Realistically several relievers do not have minor league options. Great to have Moll back and will get even more complicated if Gibaut is healthy in the upcoming weeks and ready to return.
    I’ve been impressed by the bullpen and the overall management of them by Bell.

    • Amarillo

      Someeone else will have an injury by then.

    • wkuchad

      I think Cruz and Diaz can both be optioned, but I doubt that will happen. I’m guessing Farmer or Wilson will have an “injury” and go on the IL.

  24. Old-school

    From Lance McCalister

    Elly is working on a 12 game errorless streak .

    Quite the last 2 weeks for the electric 22 year old.

    • Mauired

      Elly obviously has off the charts talent, but he’s showing me that he also has the mental acumen to smooth out the rough parts of his game and the work ethic too. He’s not just accidentally growing at the plate and with the glove in front of our eyes. Add it all up and this is the recipe of an all time great player.

      • Reaganspad

        I think that hard work is an attribute of most of this team. All seem motivated vs moody, pick up their teammate when needed and seem to like playing for David Bell.

        Say what you want about his lineups and strategy moves but he is very much a players coach which is so crucial for young guys emerging in the show.

        He has confidence and patience with the kids and they know he has their back. I think that makes the batting order or position less important. Steer just wants a bat, just like all the others, slumping or not.

        Now to just see others beyond CES start to heat up. Then we can have real fun and get back to discussing how stupid the line up construction is.

        13-10. I’ll take that at this point.

        Come on Lodolo!