Cincinnati will play host to the Philadelphia Phillies this evening to open up a series at Great American Ball Park. The Reds will be looking for some innings out of Hunter Greene tonight after the bullpen had to cover nearly the entire game on Sunday. First pitch tonight is set for 6:40pm ET.

Starting Lineup

Philadelphia Phillies

Cincinnati Reds

Kyle Schwarber – DH Stuart Fairchild – RF
Trea Turner – SS Spencer Steer – LF
J.T. Realmuto – C Tyler Stephenson – C
Brandon Marsh – LF Jeimer Candelario – 3B
Alec Bohm – 3B Christian Encarnacion-Strand – 1B
Nick Castellanos – RF Elly De La Cruz – SS
Bryson Stott – 2B Santiago Espinal – 2B
Kody Clemens – 1B Nick Martini – DH
Johan Rojas – CF Bubba Thompson – CF
Ranger Suarez – LHP Hunter Greene – RHP

Starting Pitchers

Pitcher IP ERA WHIP BB% K%
Hunter Greene 20.2 4.35 1.31 9.8% 32.6%
Ranger Suarez 26.0 1.73 0.77 4.2% 28.4%
Links: Hunter Greene’s Stats | Ranger Suarez’s Stats

Hunter Greene

In two of his starts this season, Hunter Greene has given the Reds six innings. But in the other two starts he couldn’t complete the fifth inning, and last time out he didn’t even come out for the fifth inning.

This season it’s been lefties that have done the damage against Greene. They are hitting for a solid average, but they’re really doing their work by getting on base at a high clip and while they aren’t hitting for a ton of power, they are compared to righties.

Splits

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB K AVG OBP SLG
RHH 40 7 1 0 0 3 11 .206 .275 .235
LHH 52 11 1 0 2 6 19 .268 .404 .439

Pitch Usage

4-Seam Curve Slider Split
Velo 98.5 81.7 86.5 87.5
Usage 49% 2% 44% 5%

Ranger Suarez

After two solid starts to begin the season Ranger Suarez has thrown 15 shutout innings over his last two starts – including a complete game against the Rockies last week. To this point he’s probably been the best pitcher in the league.

This season neither lefties or righties have done much against Suarez. Last season he was much more successful against lefties than righties, holding them to a .612 OPS. He only faced left-handed hitters 93 times in 22 starts in 2023, though, as teams stacked righties against him. They put up a solid across the board line of .278/.351/.424 against him in 447 plate appearances.

Splits

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB K AVG OBP SLG
RHH 71 12 1 0 1 4 19 .179 .225 .239
LHH 24 4 0 0 1 0 8 .174 .208 .304

Pitch Usage

4-seam 2-seam Curve Cutter Change
Velo 92.8 91.4 76.2 87.6 76.2
Usage 17% 38% 18% 10% 17%

When and Where

  • Game time: 6:40pm ET
  • Where: Great American Ball Park
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio, MLB.tv
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 64°, partly cloudy, 0% chance of rain

News and Notes

Frankie Montas to the injured list

The Reds had to put Frankie Montas on the injured list this afternoon with a right elbow contusion after he was struck by a line drive yesterday. They have called up Casey Legumina to fill out the pitching staff. You can read more about the moves here if you would like.

Bryce Harper is out

Cincinnati’s going to miss out on at least one game from Bryce Harper, but it could be multiple games as he was placed on the paternity list this afternoon.

Division Standings

Team W L GB
Milwaukee 14 6
Chicago 13 9 2.0
Cincinnati 12 9 2.5
Pittsburgh 11 11 4.0
St. Louis 9 13 6.0

134 Responses

  1. VaRedsFan

    If Elly manages to get on…..
    Steal 3 bases in order to score?

  2. Jim t

    Phillies have won their last 6 games again CWS and Col. they have won 8 games between them.

  3. Old-school

    Nick castellanos???

    Love the dude but .177 no bombs and -.9 WAR

    Yikes

    • RedsGettingBetter

      Always it’s better take care from him

  4. JohnnySofa

    I’m sure Elly loves to see that Bell is protecting him with Espinal.

    • CI3J

      To be fair, pitching around Elly is almost as bad as pitching to him.

      It made sense pitching around someone like roided-up Barry Bonds, because they couldn’t hurt you on the base paths. Elly most definitely can.

      • JohnnySofa

        True. The intended point, as VaReds alluded to, is that Espinal does not belong in the 7 hole.

    • greenmtred

      Elly on base would likely be an aid to Espinal, who would probably see more fastballs than otherwise.

      • JohnnySofa

        Ah. OK. So Espinal apparently hasn’t seen any fastballs in two years. Let’s keep reaching real deep in an effort to explain Bell’s lineups, like a .128 guy batting 7th.

      • greenmtred

        He has a .267 BA in 1000 plate appearances. Most hitters do better against fastballs than breaking stuff and Suarez is not a hard thrower. It’s true that the top of the order frequently gets more at-bats, but when you’re arguing about 7-9, any difference in impact will have to do with circumstances specific to a particular game. Better to inventory navel lint than to worry about who is batting 7th.

      • JohnnySofa

        You might just be David Bell using a pseudonym. I don’t even know where to start with your mix of logic dancing and captaincy of the obvious. And not caring who bats 7th or 9th … that’s genius.

      • greenmtred

        Well, Johnny, you make it obvious that long-held delusions are hard to shed.

    • Melvin

      😀 I’m ready for Benson, Fraley, and Faichild to play every day in the outfield, move Steer back to 2B and “let the chips fall where they may” until reinforcements come back. Espinal and Thompson should be on the bench and stay there most of the time.

    • Hanginwithem

      Sticks out like a sore thumb, doesn’t it?

    • Justin T

      Look horribly flat and lifeless. Same story different year. 5 years into David Bell era and we are still a streaky team that is inconsistent with the fundamentals. Nothing they do is
      consistent.

      It’s like they just throw the towel in sometimes. Fairchild hitting third now he is your leadoff hitter and espinal batting behind Elly. Fairchild is a borderline big leaguer, if you disagree then flip his baseball card over and read it. The people that defend Bell are defending moves like that. Makes less than no sense. He has done an OK job this year but as long ad he throws a lineup out like the one yesterday, he will always be David Bell.

      People wont realize how bad he is until he is gone and a new manager comes in. Probably will be 2045. Its the marvin lewis years for the Reds, he will be good enough (and say yes enough) to be able to coach here for 15 yrs and be almost exactly .500. Its the bar around here now.

      I seen someone call him a winning manager because he is a game under .500 if you take the 100 loss season out lol. Thats how it is to argue w Bell apologists, they don’t have much evidence that he is good at managing baseball so they throw a fact out that actually hurts their argument but they dont realize it. You are what your record says you are period point blank.

  5. VaRedsFan

    12 pitches 12 strikes.
    Maybe Hunter got my email.

  6. Mark Moore

    Dinner done, walk done, game on the phone just in time to see Stewie get on base.

    Time to KICK THIS PIG!!!

    Hoping Ranger Suarez is off his game tonight.

  7. Mark Moore

    Oh yeah … that was interference. Same as what happed to TySteve when the Chumpire DIDN’T call it.

    • VaRedsFan

      Ty shouldn’t have to be coached on how to draw the foul. He’s in year 3 now.

      • Mark Moore

        The play I was talking about was obvious to everyone. Not getting it wasn’t on Ty. It was all on the Chumpire.

      • VaRedsFan

        Yeah..I saw it too. He still has to sell it in case it’s a bad ump (80%). He went out of his way to avoid contact.

    • greenmtred

      Yes it was. Nice play by the much-maligned Espinal, too.

  8. Indy Red Man

    Ughh. Bad break for HG there although that 2 strike sac fly got a lot of the plate.
    Tried to rewind and look, but I think it was a 1-2 pitch. Try to get him to chase or hit the corner

  9. VaRedsFan

    Greene’s bugaboo seems to be inning # 2 and 5 in his young career. (50 starts)

    Inning 1: 12 ER’s
    Inning 2: 32 ER’s
    Inning 3: 14 ER’s
    Inning 4: 36 ER’s

    • Jason Franklin

      Probably because he only throws two pitches and major league hitters can adjust. I don’t understand if he just can’t throw anything else good enough or just lacks some pitching IQ?

  10. Mark Moore

    Not the kind of start we wanted to see. And in general, this one isn’t on HG.

  11. greenmtred

    Lot of hard-hit balls off of Hunter so far.

    • VaRedsFan

      After the 1st, The Phillies seemed to go up there attacking, since he is throwing so many strikes.

      • Mark Moore

        The one potential downside of hard strikes to a bunch of hitters like the Phillies.

  12. Mark Moore

    Feels like only giving up that first run this inning was a victory. HG’s pitch count wasn’t bad either.

    Now to figure out Ranger and put up some crooked numbers. Perhaps it’s Jobu time?

  13. JA

    Phillies is a team with a bunch of experienced players, and is notorious the difference
    Thad the difference with the unpredictable Reds
    Let’s hope for a couple of good offensive innings to fight for the win

  14. GPod

    Espinal gets into good counts, then swings and has the weakest contact I have ever seen

    • JB

      Well at least he makes contact. I would be surprised if Bubba does.

    • JohnnySofa

      According to the logic of the Green guy on this page, his weak contact is because the pitcher is throwing weak fastballs.

  15. Mark Moore

    That half inning went down with a whimper … 🙁

  16. Reddawg2012

    The bottom third of the order just has no chance.

  17. Mark Moore

    The cement mixer pitches are gonna get tagged by these guys. Might want to limit them, Mr. Greene.

  18. JB

    Pitch 49 is the first splitter of the game.

  19. Mark Moore

    Nice try, boys. Just took too long to get to Es-PEE-nal.

    • Harry Stoner

      I come from a large mixed Hispanic / Tejano / Gringo family.
      The jive with Espinal’s name is growing old.
      Fast.

      Have a think about it, please.

  20. Mark Moore

    This is getting like ugly on an ape … more of it and it just keeps coming.

  21. GPod

    Just going to have to lower the expectations of Greene….just not the pitcher, at this point, that we thought he would be

    • Mark Moore

      I’m not ready to throw in the towel on him. I still think a change in coaching staff would make a HUGE difference. I remain unimpressed with these guys. If DJ was really the wizard many claim him to be, he wouldn’t be in Cincinnati. But given Mr. Bell’s tenure is assured until ownerships changes, we dance with who brung us.

  22. Indy Red Man

    Had the sac fly hitter 1-2 then got too much of the plate. You’re a K pitcher and you needed a K there then a leadoff triple and I missed how they got the last one? Meanwhile we can’t hit at all. Why isn’t Benson playing? We’re just mediocre and we’re banged up too. I don’t see .500 within the division?

  23. Jason T.

    This is reminiscent of Seattle. Reds have the unfortunate timing of playing teams that have extremely hot pitching.
    These last 6 wins by the Phillies they’ve had an amazing run of starting pitching.

    • GPod

      and a lineup that has about 4 automatic outs does not help

      • Jason T.

        That’s an accurate statement as well!

  24. Daytonnati

    At least the perfect game is off the table. No-hitter still in play.

  25. Erik the red

    Hunter is just painful. Every pitch looks the same. Hard and straight with no change in speed. Eventually major leaguers figure it out after about one inning. He needs to pitch 6 innings tonight regardless.

  26. Mark Moore

    And somehow it feels like that cooks us for tonight.

  27. JB

    Well I’ve seen enough. 71 pitches and he has thrown 2 splitters and now 1 curveball.

  28. Daytonnati

    Yeah, down 5 seems insurmountable.

  29. GPod

    I gotta believe that stat that predicts % of chance to win/lose game….gotta be Philly 99.9% at this point

  30. Randoxu1

    I’ve said a million times this guy is not a starting pitcher. He has 2 pitches and can only throw a fastball for strikes with no movement not hard to hit no matter how hard you throw. He should be in the bullpen, don’t care how much money he makes that’s the facts. I would trade him but that will never happen.

    • Dennis Westrick

      I agree! It’s time to consider moving HG to the bullpen for the near future!

      • Melvin

        I think other teams would still trade away a lot to take a chance on him so I would do that before the bullpen. Not saying I’m giving up on him with all of his talent but trade has crossed my mind more than once recently.

    • Erik the red

      Do not disagree with your logic on the bullpen for HG, however we would need another stating pitcher on the 40 man roster ready to pitch by June for that to happen.

  31. JA

    I am not surprised with the game.
    I consider phillis as a contender for WS. Their players are good (even wo Harper) and experienced.
    Hunter is doing ok… needs help feonthe LU, but our lineup looks miserable today vs a good pitcher

  32. Jason T.

    Could the Reds consider bringing up Ford? He’s up to .292 in Louisville with 6 hr. Surely he could give us some pop over Thompson?

    • Randoxu1

      Yes they should. I agree with you.

  33. Mark Moore

    Minor somewhat bright spot … Greene goes 6 innings and gives most of the pen a rest.

  34. GreatRedLegsFan

    Too much of good pitching by Suarez, he’s put the batter out when most needed all along. Reds may have some chance, if any at all, tomorrow and/or Wednesday.

    • Mark Moore

      He’s dialed in, that’s for sure.

  35. Dennis Westrick

    Not to throw gas on the fire, including tonight’s game, the Reds next 32 game schedule is BRUTAL! 3 more games with the Phillies, 7 games against the Dodgers, 6 games with the Padres, 3 each against the Rangers & the O’s, 6 games with the D’backs and 3 games against the Giants!

    If the Reds are at 500 after their first 53 games, I will be shocked!

    • LarkinPhillips

      If we are 5 games under.500 or better I will be shocked. I could see 10-22 easily happening during that stretch.

    • Myles

      Or to put it another way, if they are around .500 after 53 games maybe they make the post-season?

  36. RedBB

    Can Hunter Greene be efficient and dominant at the same time? Starting to wonder….

  37. MK

    Suppose Larkin is a front man for Greene’s agent? He keeps saying how wonderful his pitches are and the Phillies are the ones in most agreement with him. Following Abbott, Lodolo, and Ashcraft he is the #4 starter on this team at best. When Montas comes back he drops to 5.

    • Mark Moore

      Larkin as a player in his prime was outstanding. Larkin as a TV analyst is a bust. It’s why I avoid him whenever I can. Hard to find a guy who can make Sadak worse, but he seems to do just that.

    • Tom Diesman

      That would be awesome! Hunter Greene’s floor is a #3 SP. So if he’s our worst pitcher we’re going to the playoffs.

  38. GreatRedLegsFan

    I’d say that brutal is underrated. If they’re planning to continue fielding players like Thompson or Espinal there’s very little hope. Unfortunately, loosing players like McClain, Marte and Friedl from the get go is just too much for this team.

  39. Harry Stoner

    Not the worst effort from Greene.
    Things never really got out of hand.
    “Death from a thousand (okay, 4) tiny cuts.”
    If this were his rookie season, it would be progress.
    But it’s not.

  40. Mark Moore

    Greene now doing his part to save the bullpen. That’s a good decision by Bell.

    • Melvin

      Just wish he could without giving up four runs.

  41. Pharmer85

    Classic pitcher vs thrower contest. Guess who usually wins those.

    • Dennis Westrick

      I concur! Greene is a thrower and not a pitcher!

  42. Gpod

    facing the very difficult schedule ahead with these constant dead spots in the lineup will make it impossible to score single runs let alone have a big inning

  43. Old-school

    Suarez really good but espinal and bubba and lineup not credible

    At least greene giving some innings

    Greene disappointing again but reds offense against a good lefty non-existent

  44. Mark Moore

    Unless Suarez completely falls apart and his bullpen then doesn’t pick him up, this one does NOT belong to our Reds.

  45. JohnnySofa

    Greene is Greene. Couldn’t win if his name were Glasnow or Berrios, not with this horrendous lineup collecting all of two hits through seven innings.

  46. Matt McWax

    The (only) good thing about their insistence on comparing Hunter Greene and Johnny Cueto’s early numbers is that Hunter needs to do some form of what Johnny did – he needs to add funk and deception to his delivery. His mechanics are so clean and predictable that hitters are very comfortable and it falls on him to command everything to a difficult level of precision. I think it is a risk worth taking (not mid-season) because I don’t think high velocity and a good slider are enough these days. He can improve his command and pitch choices to a point and reach a 3.78 ERA but unless he develops a Castillo like change-up, he’s going to have to experiment to really reach an ace level. Just my gut feeling.

    • VaRedsFan

      Definitely agree on the deception point you made.
      Needs some herky jerky….but it would be a big change.
      I wonder why pitchers don’t use a full windup anymore?

  47. Dennis Westrick

    Thank God the Dirty Birds can’t beat anybody!

  48. Mark Moore

    Somebody has to coach CES on how to lay off that junk. I tend to agree with Cowboy’s assessment from the past few days. He’s pressing and it’s not helping him.

  49. Dennis Westrick

    Can’t beat any team with 2 hits! Greene did give the bullpen a break after the outstanding 8.2 innings they pitched yesterday!

  50. GreatRedLegsFan

    At least the bullpen will catch a break today.

  51. Bet on Red

    your all wrong, Hunter Greenes issues certainly stem from the Miami Valley Gaming Commercials

  52. Doc

    Not seeing the game and just watching a game day equivalent. Four runs through 7, and only drip, drip, drip looks on paper to be improvement. I would like to see him continue this and make it a trend. If he becomes confident with a string of 6-7 inning starts, then maybe he grows a bit by season’s end. Four through seven is a heck of a lot better than 4, or more, through 4.

  53. Doc

    Throwing five sub .200 hitters against one of the hottest pitchers in the league is a challenge.

    I still question how little hitters especially play in ST. If one learns by facing pitchers and getting ABs, giving a bunch of ABs to non roster invites and the like can’t be beneficial for preparation of the regulars. It’s like we have five JVs Al struggling at season’s start.

    • Gpod

      I don’t even know how Espinal can be on a major league roster

  54. Mark Moore

    As if 4 runs wasn’t bad enough … that was a complete cement mixer.

    • Mark Moore

      And I’m out. Catch y’all tomorrow.

  55. Harry Stoner

    If Leguimina is going to groove one, I wish he would do it on the first pitch instead of stringing things out.

  56. Gpod

    There goes 2 hours of my life i will never get back

    • Tom Diesman

      Come on back because this is baseball and we can guarantee you about 60 of these this season.

  57. LarkinPhillips

    Does johnson think you have to wait until something bad happens to visit the mound? You have a rookie on the mound, following an error. Throw 6 straight not near the zone. No visit. Finally gives the Homer up and visits. Two straight outs. Why does always wait til after the home run?

    • Harry Stoner

      “Look, don’t give up any more home runs, okay?”

      “Yes, coach.”

  58. Stoney

    Absolutely pathetic offense. Bubba and Espinal need to be on the bench at best. Preferably off the team. Can’t win with these guys in the lineup Bell!

    • Tom Diesman

      We await your suggested roster moves to accomplish that.

  59. Bet on Red

    either 8 runs or there is always tomorow

  60. Gpod

    Bubba got to 3-1 …..the pitcher put 2 pitches right down the heart of the plate….and bubba couldn’t even foul them off …..that’s all you need to know

  61. LarkinPhillips

    3-1 count and Hoffman throws 2 straight fastballs middle middle to Bubba and he strikes out.

  62. Dennis Westrick

    Another ex-Red relief pitcher (Hoffman) comes back to haunt the Reds!

    • LDS

      Maybe Caleb Cotham knows things that DJ doesn’t

  63. LDS

    Results differ dramatically when the Reds face a decent team with a good pitcher. Can’t they just play 162 against the White Sox?

  64. Dennis Westrick

    Mercifully, this game is over!

    • Gpod

      calling that a “game” is generous

  65. Mauired

    The game was over when the lineup card was written

  66. JA

    Phillies needed ~2 hrs to defeat Reds.
    That was fast

  67. Gpod

    Bubba Thompson has been released by 5 different teams (including the Reds)….do the Reds think a miracle is all of a sudden going to take place…..I thought we were trying to win a division ?

    • Doug Gray

      Bubba Thompson has never been released.

      • Doug Gray

        They’re actually paying him about $27,540 per week.

      • Harry Stoner

        The days of Free Bubba are over.

      • Melvin

        “They’re actually paying him about $27,540 per week.”

        Sheesh

    • LDS

      I’m in my late 60s so I’d have to DH. But I’d be willing to stand up there and not hit for a lot less than $27k a week. Seriously though, Bubba would do a lot better if teams didn’t bat him against LHers. He has a solid average against RHers – a solid .279, though no power.

  68. Gpod

    I should say “designated for assignment/picked up on waivers”