The Cincinnati Reds announced this morning that right-handed reliever Ian Gibaut has returned from his rehab assignment after experiencing more forearm discomfort.

Gibaut has not pitched this season for Cincinnati. He began a rehab assignment on April 5th in Dayton and pitched again with the Dragons two days later. He threw 2.0 shutout innings there with one walk and four strikeouts. Three days later he was moved up to Triple-A Louisville. He made three appearances there and in two of them he couldn’t complete the inning and only recorded two outs before reaching his pitch limit and being replaced in the game. IN all three games he gave up at least a run – five in total in just 2.1 innings while giving up five hits, walking two, hitting two batters, and striking out three.

For Gibaut, who has averaged over 95.0 MPH on his fastball in his career (and every year of his career), his velocity was down a bit in his time on rehab. During his three outings with Louisville he averaged just over 93 MPH with his fastball, though in one game he did average 94.3 – but it dropped to 93.1 in the final outing before he was called back.

Peaking into the minor leagues

Yesterday we took a look down on the farm at how some of the Reds Top 25 prospects were performing. Among the players we noted who was out to a strong start was Cam Collier. Then he went out last night and hit two home runs as part of a 3-hit night for the High-A Dayton Dragons.

The hot streak to begin the season just continued for the Reds 2022 1st round draft pick. He is now hitting .340/.354/.681 with five home runs on the season in just 11 games played. The power has been a little surprising. It’s not so much that Collier didn’t have pop, or wasn’t expected to develop power as he continued to mature – he’s still just 19-years-old. But last season he hit six home runs in 111 games. That came in the very pitcher friendly Florida State League, but he’s nearly matched that this season in less than two weeks worth of games.

21 Responses

  1. Jon

    The Reds’ outlook for 2024 keeps getting dimmer. Injuries continue to pile up just like last year. No Antone. Now Gibaut is questionable. And we still await the return of Moll.

  2. Frostgiant80

    May be time to change the direction of the pitching philosophy of the organization to location and control over speed and spin. Maybe get ahead of he curve?

    • LDS

      @Frost, now that’s just crazy talk. Next, you’ll be wanting pitchers to pitch 7+ innings and hitters to just make contact and put the ball in play. Analytics man, it’s all the rage. You think we’re still living in the 90s? What’s next? Accountability?

      • greenmtred

        It’s certainly the case, in many fields, that things were better in the old days. I’m sure you realize, for example, that doctors don’t even use leeches anymore.

    • AllTheHype

      Speed and spin is the game now. Batters have improved, and pitching had to also. While command and control are also very important, speed and/or spin are also required to maintain the edge.

  3. MBS

    Who would have thought the we wore out our pen last year?

    Gibaut 74 G
    Farmer 71 G
    Diaz 71G
    Sims 67 G
    Young 63 G

    That’s the 5 players with the most outing from our pen last year. Which one of them are pitching to expectations so far in 2024?

    • MBS

      Moll slipped by me because of his OAK/RED splits 70G

    • Oldtimer

      How come Pedro Borbon or Clay Carroll never wore out in the BRM days?

      • MBS

        Why did Will White (CIN) throw 680 IP in 76 G, 75 Starts in 1 season?

      • LDS

        Because their focus wasn’t on power and spin? And I always thought Pedro’s are was made of rubber.

      • David

        Pedro Borbon was something of a pitching fluke. He was a guy that could go out there, several days in a row, and pitch effectively.

        As Joe Nuxhall used to affectionately call him, “old rubber arm”, as LDS says.
        Wayne Granger pitched in 90 games in 1969.

        The problem isn’t just the games pitched (which is a problem), but also the number of times they got up to warm up, but were not used.
        And there were a lot of days that the bullpen got “burned down” because a starter left early.
        The bullpen (generally) was pretty good last year, until the end, when the guys were ALL tired.
        I don’t think this years bullpen edition will be as good.

      • Rob

        David, I think Nick Krall would say you are wrong about this years bullpen. In the off-season, he added Pagan, Martinez, Miller, and Suter for the very reason of fixing this soft spot. A couple of these guys cost pretty decent money for bullpen pieces.

        Yeah, we are missing Gibalt, Young, and Moll. But when healthy, who are they going to replace? Certainly not Martinez and Pagan because those are Krall’s big investments. Can’t argue the Farmer, Miller, and Suter part though as they were cheap last minute adds.

        If you are right and Pagan and Martinez do not turn out to be improvement pieces, then that will not reflect well on our signing evaluations. There were lots of improvement pieces to choose from this winter.

      • RED THUNDER

        How about the late Mike Marshall, the pitcher, in 1973 and 1974? Cy Young winner in ’74. That was unreal! Even in 1979 he had 90 games at age 36.

    • AllTheHype

      FB from last year

      Moll -2 mph
      Gibaut -2 mph
      Farmer -2.2 mph
      Diaz -1.1 mph
      Sims -0.6 mph

    • mac624

      In today’s game of spin/speed, clubs are going to mow through pitching like I mow through my grass weekly. All of baseball is experiencing the problem and with the advancement in hitting, you will continue to see guys get used up pretty quickly on a yearly basis. Looking through injury lists for each club for the first 3 weeks, and every team has multiple pitchers out for one reason or the other. I know the Bell/Krall haters won’t agree, but this isn’t just a Cincinnati Reds problem.

    • ChrisInVenice

      Would have been nice if our starters could have gone deeper, right?

  4. Hanginwithem

    @Frost: it’s well past time to change not only the pitching philosophy but every facet of the philosophy of the organization. Being content with a “.500 road trip” after winning the first three pretty much sums up the expectations for this team, at least since 2019. Defined roles and having a “strong defense up the middle” is treated as passe and has been sacrificed for “versatility”. The extra bases, extra runs and extra pitches caused by players that appear out of position only result in extra losses. 30 home runs absolves 200 K’s and the lack of situational hitting. “Playing the percentages” is easily countered. It’s like handing the playbook to opposing teams. “Hitting triple digits” has replaced pitching to contact. The result has been more walks, more earned runs and more fatigue. The “Red’s way” is there is no Red’s way. Just go out there, try to keep it close and win it with dramatics at the end. This “philosophy” over the last 5+ seasons has resulted in a cumulative .470 winning % and really should come as no surprise. So, yes, definitely, the direction needs to change. Realize that you haven’t outsmarted anybody and stop trying to reinvent the game. Return to the basics of playing winning baseball.

    • DataDumpster

      @Hangin. Your summary is what I railed about quite frequently the last 3-4 years (and was also how I picked my posting namesake). Now, especially after the real DD got extended for 3 years, posts from me have dropped steadily toward nearly zero since. Thanks, for making the points. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    • VaRedsFan

      You two are not alone. It’s really baffling to me that people in high places (not just the Reds, but all of baseball can’t see how debilitating this brand of pitching is to team success.
      NO…you don’t have to throw 100 with max spin to be a great pitcher. You need to look no further than every time the Reds face a soft-tossing lefty. Guys that mix speeds at 85-95 are far more effective than any of the max effort pitchers. Problem #2 is all of the injuries that are the by-product of throwing with max effort.

      Loved your post @ Hang.