The Cincinnati Reds are set to host the Milwaukee Brewers tonight at Great American Ball Park for the third game of their 4-game series. There is a whole bunch of rain in the forecast and it’s not supposed to let up for several days, so it feels like the chances of the game taking place tonight is unlikely. If Mother Nature decides to play nice, first pitch is scheduled for 6:40pm ET. This game is currently in a rain delay. The Reds announced that they hope to begin play at 8:30pm ET.

Starting Lineup

Milwaukee Brewers

Cincinnati Reds

Jackson Chourio – RF Jonathan India – DH
William Contreras – C Spencer Steer – LF
Christian Yelich – DH Christian Encarnacion-Strand – 1B
Willy Adames – SS Jeimer Candelario – 3B
Sal Frelick – LF Stuart Fairchild – CF
Jake Bauers – 1B Elly De La Cruz – SS
Blake Perkins – CF Santiago Espinal – 2B
Joey Ortiz – 3B Will Benson – RF
Brice Turang – 2B Luke Maile – C
Wade Miley – LHP Hunter Greene – RHP

Starting Pitchers

Pitcher IP ERA WHIP BB% K%
Hunter Greene 10.2 2.53 1.22 10.9% 28.3%
Wade Miley
Links: Hunter Greene’s Stats | Wade Miley’s Stats

Hunter Greene

This season has seen Greene keep the ball in the ballpark early on, not yet giving up a home run. He’s been dominant against right-handed hitters so far through two starts. Lefties haven’t had an extra-base hit against him, but they’ve hit for a better average. That wasn’t the case last season when right-handed hitters had an OPS 150 points higher against Greene than left-handed hitters.

Splits

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB K AVG OBP SLG
RHH 22 3 1 0 0 2 6 .158 .227 .211
LHH 24 5 0 0 0 3 7 .278 .417 .278

Pitch Usage

4-Seam Curve Slider Split
Velo 98.8 81.9 87.2 87.8
Usage 44% 3% 45% 8%

Wade Miley

If this game gets started, Wade Miley will be making his 2024 season debut. Last week he made a rehab appearance in Triple-A Nashville, throwing 3.0 innings and giving up a run on two hits and two walks.

Teams don’t send too many left-handed hitters to the plate against Miley, but when they do those guys don’t find much success. They strike out far more often, walk less often, don’t hit for much average or any power at all.

2023 Splits

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB K AVG OBP SLG
RHH 384 78 18 1 14 32 54 .227 .294 .407
LHH 106 21 4 0 2 6 25 .212 .264 .313

Pitch Usage

4-seam 2-Seam Cutter Curve Slider Change
Velo 90.5 90.5 87.1 76.0 79.1 83.8
Usage 19% 5% 44% 2% 5% 24%

When and Where

  • Game time: 6:40pm ET
  • Where: Great American Ball Park, Cincinnati
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio, MLB.tv
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 61°, cloudy, 95% chance of rain

News and Notes

We’ve got nothing today.

Division Standings

Team W L GB
Pittsburgh 9 3
Milwaukee 7 3 1.0
Chicago 7 4 1.5
Cincinnati 6 5 2.5
St. Louis 6 6 3.0

198 Responses

  1. Mark Moore

    Reds FB page is saying “delay” with nothing more at this time.

    • JB

      Just looked at Radar and maybe after 9? Going to be a late one for us Mark.

      • Mark Moore

        Not for me … I’ll watch a little bit and then head off to bed.

        Of course, that’s what I say at the moment … 😀

      • Melvin

        “Not for me … I’ll watch a little bit and then head off to bed.”

        How do you expect us to win without ya? 😉

      • Mark Moore

        You’ll manage, Melvin. I have faith in you.

  2. Melvin

    “We’ve got nothing today.”

    Got nothin? 🙂

    • Doug Gray

      Nothing. (I am under the weather and took a nap instead of searching for *something* to put there)

      • Melvin

        I can understand that. Hope you feel better. 🙂

  3. Doug Gray

    The Reds announced they hope to play at 8:30pm ET

    • JB

      I might take that nap now. Going to be a late one probably tonight.

    • Mark Moore

      “Hope is a dangerous thing.”

      Red to Andy, Shawshank Redemption

      • LT

        Remember Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. Andy back to Red

        Given Wade is southpaw, we got exactly what we prayed for, rain 🙂

  4. musicclown.red

    A friend asked me if Stephenson gets 2 hits and 2 rbi’s in a game why can’t he start again the following game? I told him why do you want a player to get hot? I assume same goes for Maile.

    • greenmtred

      It would be interesting to see what a player does, on average, in the game following a multi-hit game.

    • AMDG

      Meanwhile, Candelario with his 49 OPS+ continues to start each and every game.

      • GMan88

        HG is going to go down as one of the overhyped players in MLB history. Not as bad as the Shogo or Bailey contract, but close. He just doesn’t get it done.

  5. Mauired

    It amazes me how long Bell sticks with things that don’t work. Captain inNeptitude. CES and Candy doing the nightly no show in the most important run producing spots in the lineup again.

    • Rednat

      I call Bell the ” substitute ” because he reminds me of a substitute teacher in elementary school. He has his lesson plan given by the real teacher for the day and will not change. The goal is not to win but to get through the season with everybody feeling good about themselves and getting a long. Just like a substitute teacher’s goal is not to teach but just keep the kids alive and safe until the real teacher returns

      • Mark Moore

        +5,000

        “I’m your sub for today … Mr. HDTBell …”

      • Dennis Westrick

        Love it! Used to love it when we had a substitute teacher in both grade school and high school.

      • Jason T.

        Still extremely high on CES. Tremendous power. Still think he could hit for average too. Some guys start off slow, especially younger players. Not ready to hit the panic button like some.
        Could he be moved in the lineup? Sure. Absolutely not opposed.

      • Mauired

        Yeah good for him. Love the kids potential but he’s showing that bell rushed him to the middle of the order over more a little established guys like steer and Benson.

        After two hits still batting under .200 with zero walks. And struck out with runners on in the ninth on a ball that almost hit him. It’s not going to kill him to hit 5th in the order.

      • Jason T.

        Absolutely valid points. I’d stop short of calling Benson established though…
        It would help not to have 3 and 4 spots struggling. I’m all for a lineup shakeup but do you actually Bell thinks about this?
        It’s just funny to me the level to which so many are down on CES. Relax. It’s a young season. Weather has sucked. He’s hit a lot of hard balls to the wrong spots. Baseball is a funny game sometimes.
        I believe CES is going to have a monster year. Young guys need to play through growing pains.

      • Mauired

        I don’t think Bell thinks much at all.

    • Doc

      I agree. Why does he keep sending Greene to the hill!

  6. Mauired

    I like CES a ton and hope he can become a beast middle of the lineup guy. But after just two months of MLB experience he doesn’t look ready for that. One thing he clearly needs is more patience. Zero walks is not going to work. Steer at this point is a better choice there because he more experienced and consistent.

    • Ted Alfred

      It’s past time to drop CES and Candelario in the order. Both guys are both batting under .170 and have left a ton of people on base…over and over and over. Drop them to 5/6 or 6/7 in the lineup so they can just relax a little bit until they start hitting.

  7. Eddiek957

    I would like to see Tyler play more I like the four innings pitched by one relief pitcher. With Nick coming back I’d rather see one of the current six pitching 3-5 innings out of the bullpen than a six man rotation. Should be to bed by midnight God willing

  8. Mark Moore

    OK, I’m in for now. I’m at about a 2-hour limit at this point. We’ll see if I last that long or even need to extend a bit.

  9. LarkinPhillips

    The amount of times sadak gives a stat is outstanding. The amount of times Larkin completely ignores the stat and doesn’t add to it is even more impressive. These two are not a good team at all..

    • Mark Moore

      Sadak doesn’t know when to shut up or use simpler words. Larkin is like a dead fish with mostly inane stuff. Lark makes John worse (not an easy task).

  10. Mark Moore

    Shall I set it on a tee for you, Mr. Yellich?

  11. LarkinPhillips

    25 pitches first inning to 5 batters. Spiers saving the pen last night might be even more important in 3 more innings.

    • Mark Moore

      Yeah … I saw that and winced … 😮

  12. VaRedsFan

    Note to all Reds.
    Miley is going to pitch inside.
    Adjust now…you know whats coming.

    • LarkinPhillips

      We have been rolling over grounders all year. Why change tonight? Lol. Miley facing us now is the worst timing possible.

  13. Mark Moore

    First pitch, relatively hard hit down the 3B line, GIDP … and I know it’s early in the season, but that little scenario will get tiring VERY quickly at this rate.

    • Ted Alfred

      David Bell has always been very slow to react to what is happening on the field…things that seem obvious in the batting order or playing time based on how guys are hitting/playing. So many times last year just when a guy would get hot at the plate he would be sitting the next day for no apparent reason. I remember last year he hit India 3rd for almost 2 months, when it paimfully was obvious after a couple weeks he wasn’t comfortable hitting 3rd and was not going to be a good #3 hitter

  14. LT

    We’re gonna be in for a long night. Need to double up on my pop corn

  15. Jeff morris

    Reds going up against a left handed pitcher in old friend Wade Miley. Reds have trouble against left handed pitching. I predict Miley will go 5-6 innings and allow maybe 3-4 hits, and either 0-1 no runs or one run.

  16. Mark Moore

    Terrible throw from Steer and no back-up.

  17. Dennis Westrick

    Yelich – perennial Reds killer! AND, of course, the Yelich HR was preceded by a WALK!

  18. LDS

    I was hoping for a rain out. Oh well. Let’s just hope Miley doesn’t get another no-hitter.

  19. JB

    Greene doesn’t back up Maile. Miscues just keep happening.

    • Ted Alfred

      This team’s defense has been basically horrific through the first couple of weeks. And Hunter Greene approaching 50 pitches in two innings… nothing new.

  20. LarkinPhillips

    The brewers have so many hits this series on grounders the opposite way through the over shift. The Reds have yet to make the adjustment and stop throwing fastballs away while shifting pull.

  21. Melvin

    Brewers hitters are smarter than our hitters it would seem.

  22. JB

    Love watching the Brewers hit. Just good contact.

  23. Old-school

    Hunter Greene isnt good. Hes turning 25 and sucks

    Hes never responded

    • Dennis Westrick

      Definitely NOT the ACE of the Reds pitching staff! Losing record (4-7) last year and well on his way to repeating that this year! Overpaid & underperforming!

      • Melvin

        Not that I’m advocating for it but I wander how much Greene would bring back in a trade? I bet it would be A LOT.

  24. Mark Moore

    And I’m on my phone now with no audio so we can watch something else. I can’t quite bring myself to Clete in the 2nd inning, but spotting them a 5-run lead makes that tempting.

  25. Beaufort Red

    I’m not a Bell backer or hater but the lack of fundamentals is incredible. Where was Greene on that throw? Bad throw yes but his job is to back up the catcher. Terrible

    • Melvin

      ” the lack of fundamentals is incredible”

      It’s been an issue for several years now.

  26. Dennis Westrick

    Looks like I will be able to turn in early tonight! Greene at 50 pitches after only 2 innings!

  27. LT

    We waited for years for our prized #1 pitching prospect and in year 3 we are still seeing this from HG

  28. VaRedsFan

    You can just see the approach the Brewers hitters take. Their coaches seem to stress hitting the ball the other way.
    It’s night and day watching another teams approach compared to the Reds.
    It’s a conscious effort to attack a pitcher a certain way by the whole team.

  29. RedsMonk65

    This stinks big time. Already in a huge hole. Those bats had better wake up!

  30. LDS

    So answer the question most of you are asking: how long, how many years will the FO tolerate fundamentally unsound baseball that would embarrass the typical high school team, the lack of player development progress, e.g. Greene, etc., etc., before they realize that it’s time to give up nepotism and hire a new field management team? After several years of the same nonsense, the argument that it’s early in the season just doesn’t cut it. Fix the problems Krall. That’s supposedly your job.

    • LarkinPhillips

      Apparently a few more since Bell got an extension. Ugh.

    • Dennis Westrick

      Bingo! Let’s start with whoever is masquerading as the Reds hitting coaches!

    • Mark Moore

      It will likely continue as long as the Ownership group stays the same. I’m one to cut Krall a massive amount of slack, especially where HDTBell and his coaching staff are concerned. It isn’t just one thing as you note. It’s a continuum of stuff that appears (at least to me) like a lack of accountability and a focus on things other than the fundamentals.

      All opinion of course. But hey, at least we’re not the A’s.

    • Doc

      The early in the season argument has never cut it. This is not the first season these guys have ever played baseball, and you don’t forget this stuff year to year after doing it since you were a kid.

  31. Mark Moore

    I’m assuming we’re challenging that POS call?

  32. dimondfvr

    Twenty pitches for Miley and fifty for Greene. Can Greene buy some pitches from Miley—or at least phone a friend?!

  33. RedBB

    Hunter Greene! We should have started him on Opening Day for his Community service according to some! LMFAO

  34. JB

    Why wouldn’t you challenge that? You are down 5-0 and got nothing to lose and it looks like his foot is off. Holding on to that challenge for the ninth inning when your down 10-0?

  35. Old-school

    Hunter Greene is awful. There is no plan where the Reds win if he is awful

    Cancel your season tickets. hunter Greene is a fraud

    • Erik the Red

      Yep. A high ERA with very few quality starts from HG is going to make the Reds playoff contenders this year. Is a Carson Spiers type pitching 4 more useless innings again?

    • RedBB

      Massively overrated despite hs community service. LOL

  36. Mark A Verticchio

    After today the Reds will be 6 and 6 but they have played much much worse than a .500 team. This will not hold up in the long run, it won’t be long until this team is buried in the standings if something doesn’t change.

  37. DK in Erie PA

    Candelario is Spanish for Moustakas

  38. LT

    When HG was #1 pitching prospect, all I heard was his Fb hit triple digit, but not “he was a good pitcher”. Well that’s exactly what we’re seeing, FB hitting 100mph but he has no idea how to pitch

    • Dewey Roberts

      I am not sure HG will ever figure it out. He has never had a good season in the minors or the majors. Maybe he will put it together but I have my doubts. He is a thrower, not a pitcher.

  39. Dennis Westrick

    Miley will pitch 8 shutout innings and Greene will be gone after 4 innings!

  40. Mark Moore

    And then we get an inning like that … 😮

  41. Randoxu1

    Hunter Greene is not a starting pitcher. He has 2 pitches and can’t throw strikes. He needs a wake up call because he thinks he’s entitled. Move him to the bullpen when lodolo comes back. At least he could come in a for an inning maybe strike some people out then pull him.

  42. LarkinPhillips

    Some will say HG has a high pitch count because of strikeouts. But when you watch the game he wastes way to many pitches. The third inning alone he had 4-5 pitches that were completely non competitive when he was ahead 0-2 or 1-2. You don’t have to groove the hitter a pitch, but keep it somewhere near the zone.

    • Mark Moore

      +1,000

      Almost a throwback to Mahle at times. “Throwing” when “pitching” is called for.

    • Ted Alfred

      Hate to say, but before the season my prediction was 74-88 because I have no faith in Bell and the injuries to McClain and Friedel are tough right out of the gate. I wonder how long Bell will resist moving the #3 and #4 hitters in the lineup. Not really sure why you would wait at this point. Why not put Elly and Steer there for a week while dropping CES and Candy down to 5/6 just to shake it up and hopefully help them relax at the plate?

    • Ted Alfred

      This has been exactly his biggest problem for the last couple of years. Over and over and over he gets ahead in the count and then goes from 0-2 to 3-2 and none of the three balls are even close to the plate where a hitter might swing. It is the main reasin his pitch count is almost always high

  43. Dennis Westrick

    Yippee! Greene has six (6) strikeouts but has given up five (5) runs!

  44. Old-school

    Jeimer Candelario and Hunter Green are the 2 money investments The Reds made. Both are horrific failures. They need to play better and earn their money. They arent. If those 2 continue play this bad there is no path forward.

    • Melvin

      If we can get anything for Candelario at the trade dealing he may be the perfect candidate even if he starts hitting.

  45. LT

    HG threw a curveball for strike. There’s still hope 🙂

  46. Tom Noonan

    Ive said it before here and I’ll say it again. Have no idea why the Reds let Miley walk.

    • Ted Alfred

      I was thinking the exact same thing. He’s exactly the same P now as he was for the Reds…. and he was really effective and great in the clubhouse. Instead I believe we signed a 10M stiff SP from KC

  47. LT

    Playing in one of the most HR allowing ballpark, Reds hitting strategy is hitting as many ground balls as possible

  48. LarkinPhillips

    Lead off walk, and 2 lead off HBPs now. Pitiful.

    • JB

      Bell wants to challenge the play at first involving Elly. The ump told him it’s to late that was two inning ago.

    • Daytonnati

      Elly finally makes a play without panache … or an error 🙂

  49. Melvin

    Wander if the Dodgers would trade Mookie Betts for Greene? 😉

    • VaRedsFan

      Dodgers could turn Greene into an All Star

      • Melvin

        I’d make that trade and throw in some more. 🙂

  50. Tom Noonan

    Pretty sure Steer is the only Red who might start for the Brewers.

  51. Tom Noonan

    Although McLain and Friedl would.

  52. Mark Moore

    And another run’s in and another run’s in … another run on the board …

  53. Mark A Verticchio

    The more I watch this team and the coaching the more I am concerned that this bunch may finish this season in last place.

  54. Tom Noonan

    Tonight is just humbling as a Reds fan. Last night was bad enough but the Reds have had one base runner I think. Meanwhile …

  55. Dennis Westrick

    At this point, hoping Miley throws a no-hitter! Reds should never have gotten rid of Wade Miley, Sonny Gray or Luis Castillo!

  56. Melvin

    Our second base runner. 🙂 Two walks.

    • RedsMonk65

      Maybe the tide will turn now….something….please…..

  57. GPod

    the reds always have to have a guy on the team that the reds sign for a good amount, we get juiced that they are really gonna help this team….then they stink ….Shogo Akiyama, Moustakas, Wil Myers…..this year it’s Candelario

  58. Melvin

    Our third baserunner. HBP 🙂 Although that pitch was over the plate.

  59. Mark Moore

    A run and a TOOTBLAN … that makes sense … 😛

  60. RedsMonk65

    Yay — we got a hit! And a run! Still not impressed.

  61. LT

    Something to cheer for. Cubbies and nemesis Hendricks got smoked

  62. Tom Noonan

    Candy knows how to … oh, nevermind. Even when we score, we find a way to make it depressing.

  63. Jeff morris

    Many Times I believe Hunter Greene is just a thrower, not really a pitcher, and yes there is a big difference between the two!

    • Tyler Hawk

      I’m beginning to wander if he even wants to pitch … when he’s was a high school all American and on the cover of SI he was a SS

  64. Dennis Westrick

    Speaking of last night’s game, maybe Bell was physic (or psychotic) in sacrificing Spiers in order to save (rest) the Reds bullpen!

    And, as I’m typing, there goes Miley’s No-No!

    • Dennis Westrick

      Been saying that since Greene was called up! He’s a thrower and NOT a pitcher! 100+ mph fastballs work in high school, college or the minors! ML hitters can hit those fastballs, especially if there is little or no movement in the pitch!

  65. Melvin

    Good hit by Fairchild to get a run in finally. Pathetic base running by Candelario to get thrown out at 3B. Can we hire Scott Rolen to teach base running?

  66. HoF-13

    This is going to be a long season I’m afraid. The Reds have 3 (maybe 4) professional hitters. Unfortunately, 2 of the 3 (McLain, Friedl) are on the I.L and won’t be back soon. Only Steer and India, when he is batting in the right spot of the order, are professional in their at-bats. Stephenson has moments. Benson has potential – he has a very good eye. I like what Fairchild is doing this year. But right now, there are too many holes in the lineup – too many unprofessional at-bats and unproductive outs.

    • Tyler Hawk

      +1000 … and I’d add I think the central division is overall improved and more deep then the last few seasons

    • Daytonnati

      I am a believer that CES will improve with reps but, yeah, the cupboard looks pretty bare at this point.

      ELLY!!!

  67. RedsMonk65

    Well. Elly stills wants to play.

  68. Mark Moore

    Nice, relaxed swing on that one by Elly

  69. GPod

    would have been nice to have that HR with 2 on last inning….thanks Candelario

  70. Melvin

    Alright EDLC. Oppostie field HR! 🙂

    • Mauired

      Kids got crazy power. I think he got 50% of that and still hit an oppo line drive homer

  71. RedsGettingBetter

    The Brewers have rocketed the Reds pitching stats which were solid prior to this series…

  72. Dennis Westrick

    Hate to beat a dead horse but two (2) of the Brewers runs scored tonight resulted from a walk and a HBP by HG! Simply cannot be an effective pitcher if you consistently give the opposing team free passes!

    • VaRedsFan

      Thats the first we’ve ever heard you mention walks

      • Dennis Westrick

        Apparently, you have been paying attention!

  73. VaRedsFan

    Loved that swing by Elly…stayed back and drove it!!!!

  74. Jeremiah

    Brew Crew has gone from a team the Reds couldn’t hit against last year, to now a team they can’t pitch against!

    Well Reds aren’t going to win very often with CES and Candelario batting .160 as their 3rd and 4th hitters. It’s early, but I think you have to start considering dropping at least one of those guys down in the order.

    They seem to be facing a lot of lefties early. Too little Fraley but I guess he really can’t hit lefties well enough to play often against them.

  75. Mark Moore

    And with that, I’m done for tonight. Not the way we wanted to see the Bernie series happen, but it kind of doesn’t surprise me.

    Night all.

  76. DW

    Regarding Hunter Greene…I still have hope for him. This was his 49th career game. That is less than two season’s worth of starts.

    If anything, shame on the Reds pitching development for not making him develop a third quality pitch before coming up to the majors. And shame on the Reds for making him think he can succeed as a big league starter with only two pitches.

    And yet, he still has shown moments of promise. Young players will have there ups and downs, especially without much veteran leadership around for guidance…as was especially true last season.

  77. JB

    Reds were talking about the Brewers being their nemesis before the series. They still are.

  78. RedsGettingBetter

    How many splitters did Greene throw tonight?

    • DW

      5 Splitters
      5 Curveballs

      According to statcast. May have missed one.

  79. Mark A Verticchio

    The very simple question, when is Hunter Greene going to learn how to pitch? Too many of his pitches are literally put up on a tee for the hitter. The sad thing about all this is that a little over a month ago the Reds were a trendy pick to win the division then all hell broke loose.

    • DW

      Yeah that has certainly been the case tonight. He may be tipping pitches too. Wouldn’t surprise me if Milwaukee has something on him.

      • JB

        Milwaukee must have something on all the pitchers because they are hitting.

    • VaRedsFan

      People that know, knew they weren’t ready yet.
      Their season win total was 80.5.
      Then they lose 3 of their best hitters and here we are.

      • DW

        Yeah the absences of Friedl and McLain are huge. Friedl is so underrated.

  80. Melvin

    Bally just switched the game to poker. Had to find it on another Bally channel mid game. lol

    • Melvin

      Now this channel keeps switching back to the Bobby Carpenter Show. Bally is really poor quality.

  81. RedsGettingBetter

    I don’t know how Bell will do about the order at bat but CES & Candy can’t go 3rd and cleanup spot right now… Pathetic

  82. Dennis Westrick

    Bell’s favorite RP now in the game – Astronaut Farmer! Farmer would be my choice to release when Lodolo comes up!

  83. Indy Red Man

    Leadoff double and 2-3-4 do nothing. HG? I knew I wasn’t going to be tricked by a good start when it’s 40 degrees. Pacers had a super athletic 7 footer named Jonathon Bender. He could look great, but it just never happened. HG trending that way. Connor Phillips and Lodolo just got rocked at AAA and Martinez has looked bad. Not good

  84. Jeremiah

    Montas, Ashcraft, Greene, just not good enough in this series against the Brewers. I always feel like the Brewers are like out-scouting or out smarting the Reds most series they play against each other. Ashcraft and Greene, I still think can be solid MLB starters, but both have over 200 MLB innings and both at about 4.85 ERA. You start to wonder if our most talented players just aren’t good enough? I don’t know, it’s early, but I think the rest of the NL Central outside of St. Louis seems to have an edge talent wise on the Reds so far I’d say (especially with the Reds injuries).

    • VaRedsFan

      Maybe they have the talent, but it’s not being brought out to their full potential by the coaches? Everybody can’t be on the regression-train once they reach the majors can they?

  85. Erik the red

    Hard to win every game turns into beer league softball score.

  86. Indy Red Man

    Good news is that last beefball hit my Over. You can’t do 8.5 with HG in GaBp? Hit Steer RBI +160 yesterday

  87. Melvin

    Is it just me or should EDLC move up in the order along with Steer?

  88. Indy Red Man

    Elly 3 Steer 4 CES 5

    Espinal almost as bad as Candy. I’m out. Really need tomorrow bad

    • JohnnySofa

      That core of the order would make too much sense. That isn’t how things work around here.

  89. GPod

    so far, the new players (not pitchers) that were added to this team this year, basically can’t hit their weight

  90. Melvin

    Suter pitching again. He’s already earned his money. lol

    • VaRedsFan

      Any reason they are using their most reliable bullpen lefty in a 7-2 game?

  91. Mark A Verticchio

    Espinal and Candy have been big time failures so far. However, when you consider how this team has played 6 and 6 is pretty good.

    • JohnnySofa

      Why would anyone be surprised about those two guys? I mean, Santiago Espinal? Candy and his lifetime .241 average? Shame on anyone who expected much more than what you see. Oh wait, that’s right, when I pointed this out about Candy two months ago, the retort was, “He’s a doubles machine.” Cool. We get a double every fourth day. Wow.

  92. RedsGettingBetter

    This team is very limited playing Espinal everyday. He’s worse than José Barrero at least Barrero has some pop. We really miss McLain, Friedl and Marte…

    • Melvin

      “He’s worse than José Barrero at least Barrero has some pop. ”

      It appears that way so far at least.

      • JohnnySofa

        Espinal never had any pop. He is who he’s always been. When fans start asking for Barrero back, you know things look bad.

  93. RedlegScott

    5 of the 9 starting hitters tonight with averages below .200. Some far below. Not going to work.

    • RedlegScott

      Correction: 4 of 9 with #5 approaching .200.

  94. JohnnySofa

    I got chewed up on here for simply stating the obvious during the offseason: Reds needed a stud SP (because Greene is not one) and they instead spent the bulk of their available cash on a barely-above-utility infielder. I also got hammered for saying Bell would blindly put that guy in the middle of the lineup (with his career highs of 22 HRs and 70 RBIs), no matter what, because that’s his new-toy mentality. At some point, maybe not in April, it will be time for Reds fans to stop applauding every front office move and instead pay attention to common sense and conscience.

  95. Moon

    Reds got ripped off in the Espinal trade. He is awful. At best he needs to be in the minor leagues right now. But I see a DFA in the future for him

    • Mauired

      Maybe they could get Barrero back for him.

  96. GPod

    The pitching actually gave a chance for the Reds to get back in this game….but the the stupid baserunning by you know who, and the wasted lead-off double by India basically ended any real hope….and the rest of the game has been a parade to the plate of weak at-bats

  97. RedsGettingBetter

    Suter being Suter the last three outings…

  98. Dennis Westrick

    Before I sign off for the evening let me see if I got this right! Brewers score 7 runs on six (6) hits tonight! Reds pitching gave up 8 runs in Game1, 9 runs last night for a total of 24 runs in 3 games! At least they won Game 1 and now need a win tomorrow with Martinez on the bump to gain a split of the 4-game series! My chances of winning the Florida Lottery tonight are better!

    Up until this series, both the starting pitching and bullpen was pretty good. If we can’t be competitive against the Brewers we have no chance to win the NL Central.

  99. RedsGettingBetter

    I think Canelario is always the last hitter and getting struckout of each Reds loss

  100. GPod

    Candelario is 7 for 46……and striking out like a no tomorrow ….and Larkin says “he’ll be better”…..how can he be any worse?

  101. Doc4uk

    I know it is early but Candy sure looks like a really bad FA signing. EDLC and Steer are the only ones really killing it. Brewers were a much better team last year and this year is no different.

  102. Mark A Verticchio

    Bottom line, this was a poor effort by the entire team except EDLC and a few late inning pitchers. Greene was Greene and that is no compliment. Bell is still lost with his line up construction and Candy is Moose part 2. Could be a long long season.

    • GPod

      Candelario’s lifetime stats offer no hope that he will actually be anything special….but he did get a nice contract….for basically being a below avg. major league player

  103. Stan

    Joey Votto batted third and played 1B for years so in Bells mind CES must bat third and play 1B and Candy must bat cleanup because he’s getting paid the big bucks.This team will never win anything with Bell and Castellini’s at the helm.How many more years of bad management, bad fundamentals and strikeouts are we supposed to tolerate?

  104. Doug Gray

    Can’t believe no one pointed out that I had “Splits Pizza” in here (I’ve corrected it now)