Milwaukee scored three runs in the third inning and played add on after that, never looking back on Tuesday night as they kept going until it was 9-1 in the 7th. Cincinnati would rally in the bottom of that inning and in the 8th inning but they were too far behind for it to matter as the Reds dropped the second game of the series.

Final R H E
Milwaukee Brewers (7-3) 9 13 1
Cincinnati Reds (6-5)
5 10 1
W: Ross (1-0) L: Montas (2-1)
Statcast | Box Score | Game Thread

The game didn’t have much going on over the first two innings, but Milwaukee changed that in the top of the 3rd inning. Frankie Montas walked the leadoff batter, gave up a double, and then a 2-run single. Christian Yelich would cap off the inning with an RBI single to extend the Brewers lead to 3-0.

Cincinnati would get a run in the bottom of the 4th inning when Christian Encarnacion-Strand led off with a single and scored on a 1-out single by Jake Fraley. Elly De La Cruz followed up with a double into right field to move Fraley over to third, but back-to-back strikeouts would leave them both stranded on the bases.

Milwaukee got some help from the Reds in the top of the 5th. After a bunt single and a strikeout, William Contreras grounded the ball to short where Elly De La Cruz fielded it to Jonathan India at second, but the ball got by India and everyone was safe on a play India probably should have made. Christian Yelich took the next pitch and drove in both runners with a double to make it 5-1.

The Brewers would add another run in the 6th inning when Carson Spiers took over and gave up two hits that led to Milwaukee extending their lead to 6-1. They’d do more damage against Spiers in the 7th, tacking on three more runs to make it an 8-run lead.

Cincinnati would get some of those runs back in the bottom of the inning. Tyler Stephenson stepped to the plate with runners on the corners and one out and turned on a slider and lined a double into the corner to drive in two and make it 9-3. They would draw closer in the next inning on a ground out RBI from Elly De La Cruz and an RBI double from Spencer Steer that pulled the Reds to within four runs.

Spiers kept the Brewers off the board in the final two innings, giving Cincinnati one more shot to erase a 4-run deficit. The first two batters reached base, but the next three batters struck out to end the game and even the series up with two games to go.

Key Moment of the Game

Jake Bauers 2-run double in the 7th inning that put the Brewers up 8-1 and really cemented the game.

Notes Worth Noting

Joe Ross picked up the win for Milwaukee. It was his first big league win since June 29th of 2021.

Christian Encarnacion-Strand had two hits in the game, but he still hasn’t drawn a walk this season.

Spencer Steer had two hits and a walk and is now hitting .400/.489/.775 on the season.

Elly De La Cruz was the only Reds starter to not strike out on the day.

Up Next for the Cincinnati Reds

Milwaukee Brewers vs Cincinnati Reds

Wednesday April 10th, 6:40pm ET

Wade Miley (2024 debut) vs Hunter Greene (0-0, 2.53 ERA)

81 Responses

  1. Ted Alfred

    3 and 4 hitters combined…8 runners LOB. Ain’t gonna get it done…both hitting .163

  2. Melvin

    “Spencer Steer had two hits and a walk and is now hitting .400/.489/.775 on the season.”


    • Tyler Hawk

      At that rate he’ll be the best 7th hole hitter of all time

      • Grand Salami

        Yeah it’s getting old when CES is looking lost.

      • greenmtred

        CES was 2 for 5, scored 2 runs. Might mean little, might mean he’s breaking out of the slump.

  3. Melvin

    “Elly De La Cruz was the only Reds starter to not strike out on the day.”

    Great job. There is no one where it’s more important to put the ball in play than EDLC.

    .293/.356/.585/.941 Those are pretty good numbers even with all of the Ks.

    • Tom Diesman

      Benson, with 3 K, takes the K King crown from De La Cruz with a 38.6 SO% to Elly’s 37.8 SO%.

      • Jim Walker

        And Benson’s K% is worse vs RHP than vs LHP. The situation is not a direct function of him playing vs LHP.

      • Melvin

        …and he’s not doing near as well as EDLC to this point.


      • MBS

        @Melvin, I’ll take a .845 OPS from any MLB hitter. Benson had a .863 OPS last year trailing only McLain at .864 OPS. If Benson can maintain that kind of production while facing LHP’ing this year he becomes the undoubted most valuable OF we have.

  4. Ethan L

    17 runs given up in two games. Not the best stretch.

    Montas didn’t look like a 20-game winner tonight.

    • TR

      Even possible twenty game winners have off nights on the mound when they’re a bit off balance. It’s a long season.

    • Rob

      I think it us time to take a deep look at Derek Johnson he is not getting it done

      • NorMichRed

        If DJ is clearly the “pitching guru” he’s advertised to be, it doesn’t show up on game nights. His mound visits often seem mistimed (maybe more on Bell than him) and don’t appear to result in any mechanical adjustments. The timing clock this year and last makes it tougher to get much from these visits, in all fairness.

        Johnson may be doing good things as a teacher during Spring Training and days-off throwing sessions, but this is almost impossible for us fans who don’t know what happens there. Some of the young pitchers have perhaps exceed expectations (Ashcraft) and others fallen short so far (Greene, injuries notwithstanding), but I think this is true of every MLB team. Pitching at this level to me seems to be a game of numbers and a crap shoot of sorts, especially with the emphasis on speed and spin rate arguably making EVERYONE more injury prone than a generation ago. I don’t know enough to make a fair assessment.

      • greenmtred

        DJ’s pitching days are behind him, so it seems to me it’s the guys actually throwing the ball who aren’t getting it done. It’s also two games we’re talking about: overall, the pitching hasn’t been bad.

    • DK072257

      I dunno, after watching Greene for the past several years, I can’t see him ever developing past a #2 or #3. Seems he incapable of developing a 2nd and 3rd pitch.

  5. Mauired

    They really need a rebound win tommorow Greene vs Miley. The finale scares me with Brewers ace Peralta vs. Martinez and his 7 era. If they lose tommorow, they could easily lose the series.

    • Jason T.

      Agreed. Peralta consistently pitches well against us, especially here. Would love to get a W tomorrow.

  6. LDS

    Let’s see if Bell adjusts the lineup tomorrow, other than his usual platoon moves. Probably go with his usual lineup against LHers. I’d say bench Candelario for a game, but the team roster is so poorly constructed, I’m not sure that’s even possible. And tonight displayed the usual pattern, get the first couple on base and strand the. Gets old after 4-5 years.

    • Jim Walker

      Presumably India who was not available Monday will be tomorrow.
      So, Bell can sit Benson and use India or Espanal as DH with the other at 2b. The another alternative is to play both catchers. Stephenson could play 1b with CES to 3b to give Candelario a game off. Using TS at 1b instead of DH would leave him free to go behind the plate w/o forfeiting the DH if Maile were hurt.

      That would leave a bench of the 3 LH hitters and the switch hitting Candelario.

      • LT

        I like it. TS had 2 hits tonight. We need his bat.

      • LDS

        That would work. At least get Candelario out of the #4 slot. The Reds are 6-5 but aren’t inspiring much confidence. They seem somewhat tenacious at times but never seem to have the sense of urgency and killer instinct that the really good teams have. Too much “well next game” attitude, until they run out of games.

      • JB

        Why don’t you just play Espinal at 3rd?

      • MBS

        @Jim, Benson is being used as an everyday guy now. BTW he had a HR, 2B, and a BB in his last start vs a LHP.

        @LDS, I really don’t like a lineup with Thompson in it, so I probably wouldn’t give my regulars an off day when we are facing a LHP. If I were to make that lineup it would look like this.

        3B EDLC, SS Espinal, 2B India
        LF Fairchild, CF Thompson, RF Benson
        DH Steer, 1B CES, C Stephenson

      • LDS

        @MBS, exactly, hence my comment about roster construction. Bubba may be a good 26th man on a team staffed with everyday players. But a roster structured around platooning, the team needs a stronger 26th man. They should have traded for some everyday OF’ers this offseason. Fraley is strictly platoon. Fairchild isn’t, but his hitting/power hasn’t really registered all that much. I compared Martini to Dietrich the other day and I’m starting to think I oversold him. Benson, I’m optimistic at the moment. He’s had a decent game or two. Regardless, excepting Steer, I don’t see much in the Reds’ OF that inspires confidence. And Candelario hasn’t really not impressed. Only 11 games of the season, however he didn’t hit in ST either, against a lot of minor league pitcing. So that’s 30 plus games. But, I guess Bell’s happy. And fans are pumping money into Castellini’s pockets, so Bob & Phil are happy. I guess the only grumpy ones are those fans such as I that like to see a team win, win often, and win decisively. So it goes.

      • MBS

        @LDS, I agree. If we had Marte, McLain, and Friedl, Thompson would be an ideal 26th man. His value is diminished since we need more well rounded guys to fill the in the gaps left by those 3.

        Ford is about the only guy in AAA that could (currently) add to the offense, but he’s also a LHB. At best he’s a replacement for Martini, but there is no guarantee that he’d be more productive than Martini if he were to replace him.

        We really need Stephenson to step it up, as well as Candy.

      • greenmtred

        I wonder how many current teams don’t use platoons?

      • 2020ball

        You mean like the Reds? The only platoon i see is Fraley, no idea what LDS is on about as far as a roster constructed around platoons, looks more like the complete opposite actually.

      • LDS

        @2020, how often does Fairchild start against RHP? Espinal? How often does Espinal? Martini against LHP? How often does Bell let Fraley or these guys hit when the handedness of the pitcher changes? Virtually never. That is a platoon lineup, although in some cases the player has reverse or nearly even splits.

      • 2020ball

        Haha okay, so he platoons his bench like a lot of other teams?

        Also dont get why guys that barely play are your bellcows here, kinda think that’s more supportive of my argument.

        Do you really want to see Espinal bat more often?

      • LDS

        Even simpler than that – develop a roster with everyday players where guys like Espinal and Bubba play infrequently and only in special circumstances, not every other day. Bell proof the roster.

    • greenmtred

      A fun rhetorical flourish, but would you still describe the roster as poorly constructed if Friedl. McLain and Marte were available? I’d actually describe the roster as well constructed, given that the Reds have legitimate MLB players for all positions despite the injuries and suspension.

      • VaRedsFans

        Exactly. It’s not like there’s an all star tree that you can go outside and pick from. And especially not 1-3 weeks before the season starts.

        Have people already forgot that the team lost 1/3 of it’s everyday players?

      • VaRedsFan

        Exactly. It’s not like there’s an all star tree that you can go outside and pick from. And especially not 1-3 weeks before the season starts.

        Have people already forgot that the team lost 1/3 of it’s everyday players?

      • LDS

        They would be better constructed with Friedl, Marte, and McLain. However, they aren’t available and Krall has done a lousy job filling their slots. Players at replacement level or less do not promote a competitive team. Nonetheless, the Reds made this decision back last summer when they spent their capital and media on signing Bell and promoting a bunch of insiders. Fans had boosted attendance so they could start rewarding themselves and their insiders instead of investing in the team. Yes, the Reds spent a lot in the off season, but as I and others have noted, it shored up the floor but didn’t raise the ceiling. There’s a reason the odds makers and the projection system are less than enamored of the Reds.

      • 2020ball

        The roster IS structured with those injured players, so the line “they would be better constructed with Friedl, Marte, and McLain” means that LDS does think it’s a well constructed roster.

      • greenmtred

        He’ll never admit it, though. Not even to himself.

  7. Rcsodak

    Ive never seen a team avg almost double digits so’s before. When are they going to get a new hitting coach!

    • Harry Stoner

      While I’m all in favor, I think the problem is much deeper than that.

    • JB

      I think the A’s are averaging double digits as well.

  8. Old-school

    So Yellich is Yellich and Reds killers Sal Frelich and Blake Perkins go 6-9 with 4 RBI’s and 4 runs scored and CY young award candidate Joe Ross mutes the Reds offense. I dont know how the Brewers do it.

    2 more against the Brewers and then 6 game road trip to CHicago and Seattle. This feels like a big 8 game stretch at 6-5 to ensure Reds have a strong April to start 2024. The poor defense, anemic performance from the corner bats, K happy offense, and shotty performance against lefties seem to be trending. It’s early and they are missing important guys so hopefully can find ways to move the win needle 3-4 games above .500 by May.

    Don’t look at that Reds schedule in May. You may need eclipse glasses to avoid damaging your eyes!

    • JB

      Doesn’t matter who the Manager is or pitching Coach , the Brewers are a solid team every year. Good pitching and defense up the middle. Bullpen always seems strong and lineup is always exceptional. Yelich never bats 7th.

      • Jim Walker

        The Brewers have a solid organizational strategy which seems to be instilled from the top down. They get certain types of players that fit the plan and use them according to the plan.

        The Reds (at least on the field) are day traders looking to make hay on marginal derivatives.

      • 2020ball

        I really fail to see how what they do is any different than a team like the Reds. I know trashing on the org is popular around here, but would you care to expand more on what they’re doing that the Reds arent?

      • JB

        2020 how am I trashing the Reds? All I’m stating is the Brewers are a solid team every year.

      • still

        What does it mean when you say Brewers have a solid organizational structure. What makes it solid? They have a plan…what is the plan and how are the players they have fitting it?

    • Roger Garrett

      100% agree and let me add when you play for a manager that waves the white flag in the 6th innings down 4(I said it when he brought in Spiers last night) then do we expect things to turn around quickly.Bell gave up in the 11th game of the season down 4 with 4 innings to go.Are you kidding me? That was awful.

      • Mauired

        Your comments make too much sense so I’m sure some of our loser posters will jump on to defend loser nepo baby Bell and say you can’t complain. It’s all hindsight and you know nothing.

      • 2020ball

        Haha, if you’re gonna post on the internet people are gonna come at you. I’d advise not taking so much offense and to utilize good debate instead of sidehanded name calling.

      • greenmtred

        I guess I won’t post about this, in that case. Wouldn’t want to be labelled a loser poster.

      • Mauired

        Actually green I don’t recall you constantly using the hindsight copout to excuse Bells terrible game management.

  9. William

    CES has to get more walks. Zero walks is not acceptable. The hitting coach needs to work on this better with him.

    • Dan

      Totally agree. He can really hit – I like him a lot – but he’s way over-aggressive right now.

    • still a red

      Hmmm, is he swinging at balls out of the zone? It seems like pitchers are pounding him inside keeping him from extending his hands robbing him of power and forcing weak pulls.

      • Mauired

        Not much that I have noticed. However he did strike out in the ninth in a very crucial spot on a pitch that almost hit him

  10. SultanofSwaff

    I heard on tv the other day that David Bell was asked what’s the #1 thing the Reds need to do and he said ‘catch the ball’. I couldn’t agree more. Once again the defense wasn’t crisp and it led to drawn out innings and higher pitch counts. That will take a toll over a long season.

    • JB

      Yep and Montas did not look happy after getting the 3rd out after India’s tootblan of not catching the ball from Elly. Terrible defense is worse than bad offense.

      • Jim Walker

        I noticed one day when DJ had come to the mound; and, Cadelario appeared to be translating English/ Spanish that Candy seemed to be getting much more wound up and animated than DJ as he spoke to the pitcher (Diaz??).

        My Spanish isn’t up to lip reading in a situation like that, but I interpreted Candy’s general demeanor as unhappy and trying to light a fire under the pitcher. I’ve always been a supporter of constructively expressed peer pressure. However, I wondered how it was going to play out with Bell’s one big happy family public face if the older more experienced guys stepped up and took a lead in calling for accountability.

    • 2020ball

      The poor defensive fundamentals is on the coaching staff ultimately. It’s been my biggest gripe for years since this group has been together.

  11. Frostgiant80

    The lineup is really starting to become a head scratcher. Steer is one of the best hitters in the lineup. Hit him higher up. No need to be the smartest person in the room. Baseball has been baseball for a long time.

    • greenmtred

      You did notice that, batting 7th, he had opportunities with men on base?

      • VaRedsFan

        While that’s a true statement, he also had 1 less AB than Candy/CES. Probably wouldn’t have mattered in what turned out to be a 4 run game. But over the course of a week, if it matters once, then it’s worth it.

      • greenmtred

        You’re absolutely right, VaRedsFan. My point was that Steer is productive batting seventh as much as he does, as witnessed by his being the league’s co-leader in rbi’s. But he does get fewer at-bats than he would batting, say, 3rd. I couldn’t begin to calculate how that would balance out against the value of depriving opposing pitchers of an easy inning every time they pitch through the entire batting order.

  12. Mauired

    I’m starting to think Reds are going to need to add a real clean up hitter this summer (maybe JD Martinez) if they are serious about contending for playoffs and world series. Candelario is a joke at cleanup and was just stupid as usual Bell move.

    CES has the potential but not showing it now with zero walks this year. Struck out in the ninth with runners on, on a pitch that almost hit him. I thought he was too aggressive last year but he’s upped the ante this year.

    Benson also has the potential to be the cleanup hitter. He needs to k less but overall his production is good. And he’s finally getting an opportunity to hit lefties. Should have been last year. But our very mentally slow manager makes the proper adjustments over a long period of time after the losses stack up unfortunately.

    • Jon

      Was thinking about that this morning. The Reds went out and added a proven legit veteran starter in Montas to lead the SP staff. You could argue that Suter fills that role in the bullpen, albeit not necessarily a top reliever in baseball. Yet for the offense, Candelario is the only veteran, and his career numbers have been inconsistent. They need a power bat for the OF that can play everyday.

      • 2020ball

        Who are you guys replacing in the OF?

      • MBS

        @2020, You asked about the wrong position. DH would the position that gets upgraded in the lineup. Martini could go back to a reserve role, or AAA.

        I wouldn’t trade for someone now, but that’s how it would probably play out. I wanted them to sign more offense in the offseason, namely Soler or Gurriel Jr. It’s a little early in the season to make trades for what could be a temporary issue. If CES, Stephenson, and Candy start pulling their weight in the next few weeks, all will be right again in Reds land.

        Friedl might be returned in a month, and Marte will be ready at midseason. Dunn, and Hinds might also factor in before midseason, but almost for sure by the end of the season.

      • 2020ball

        I see I rolled @maui’s comment into @Jon’s, my question then is for him. Just wasn’t sure he’d paid any thought to whose playing time was getting cut in that scenario. The DH spot on this team is certainly wide open.

      • Mauired

        As previously mentioned JD Martinez or as others have mentioned maybe Soler. Basically a DH on a short term deal who actually has cleanup hitter experience instead of the farce Reds are trying with faux cleanup man Candelario.

        Personally I think they have plenty in the outfield. Especially with Freidl returning soon and 3 guys in AAA that could help soon.

  13. Mauired

    6. Candy

    I don’t know. Maybe I’m wrong but this seems to make more sense than what the genius Bell is writing up daily

    • Jason T.

      All for it but I’d put Fraley 2nd and Fairchild 9th and utilize Espinal to spot start to keep people fresh.
      I’d also DFA Martini and roll with Ford.

      • David

        Yeah, Ford is batting all of 0.229 (as of today’s stats) with the BATS.

        I would not bat Benson 4th. At least not this year. CES will be fine, he has ALWAYS hit at every level. Appearances are that he is making hard contact, just hitting too many “at ’em” balls. He is not walking, because I think views his job as hitting and driving in runs. This was not the way Joey Votto thought about his approach, but CES is not Joey Votto.
        I would rather bat Steer third (all the time), bat Fraley 2nd (against right handers) and keep CES as 4th hitter. Or maybe (and this is WILD), bat EDLC 2nd against left handers (and maybe right handers too). Put his speed more in play, more times during the game. And bat Fraley 5th against right handers. Or bat Fraley 4th and CES 5th.
        Candelario just isn’t making that much hard contact.
        And maybe bat Stephenson 5th or 6th.

        We are all of 11 games into the season. Barry Larkin, Hall of Famer and one time NL MVP, was a notoriously slow starter, and usually didn’t hit well in April. But David Bell should re-think the way he makes out the line-up.

    • 2020ball

      I like this lineup. All that really matters to me is you give your best bats the most plate appearances, the order is otherwise inconsequential IMO. I’ve been saying for a while Steer should be higher in the order, and highly disagree with his placement so far. Do I think it’s the end of the world? Nah, he’s been contributing to wins even from his current spot so I see no need to get upset.

      • Indy Red Man

        Well the 6 guys in our lineup that have faced Miley are a combined 3 for 28 with 11 Ks. So maybe we’ll get 4 in the 1st?

    • MBS

      I could be convinced from day to day of a different ideal lineup. There are only 2 things I consistently want to see in the lineup.

      1) India as leadoff. I don’t know why, but he just performs better in the leadoff spot.

      2) EDLC surrounded by RHB’s. Don’t put a LHB or Switch on either side of him in the batting order. That is going to lead clubs bringing in a LH reliever more often to turn EDLC around. It won’t eliminate it but they are going to have to regret facing Steer, or CES with that LHP if they do.

      VS RHP

      1 India (2B) 2 EDLC (SS) Steer (LF)
      4 Benson (CF) 5 CES (1B) 6 Candy (3B)
      7 Fraley (RF) 8 Stephenson (C) 9 Martini (DH)

      VS LHP

      1 India (2B) 2 EDLC (3B) Steer (LF)
      4 Benson (RF) 5 CES (1B) 6 Candy (DH)
      7 Fairchild (CF) 8 Maile (C) 9 Espinal (SS)

      • 2020ball

        I’ve yet to see why India couldn’t perform in a different spit in the order. Any data we have is tarnished by injuries.

      • MBS

        @2020, yes India’s injuries do obscure his potential. Last year I wanted them to move India to a RBI spot because I believed he’s one of the best hitters on the team. It’s just hard to argue with his results in the leadoff regardless of his potential elsewhere.

        India in 2023 had a .408 OBP in the leadoff spot, and he’s has a .404 OBP currently. Sometimes it’s best to leave well enough alone.

  14. David

    And honestly, the Reds’ biggest problem is (drum roll)….PITCHING.
    Followed by defense.
    5 runs should be enough to win most games, but they got tagged for 9 runs last night. Montas had a lousy start (and defense??) and Spiers was left in there to mop up, which put the game out of reach.
    Hopefully, Greene fires up a good 5-6 innings tonight, and they can put up some runs against Miley. This is his first start after “rehab” in the minors to be ready tonight. Wade, good guy that he is, might be just about done at 37 years old.

    Abbott pitched pretty good (well, decent) on Sunday, but the Reds only scored 1 run
    Friday night against the Mets, they gave up a 3 runs (pitching, defense?), but a hard night to score; only scored two runs (and they had opportunities).

    The eye test tells us that this is, as presently on the field, not a very good fielding team. And not much is going to change, anytime soon. If the pitching and fielding picks up, the runs will be there to win more games than lose.

    Lineups matter, especially if you have a cold bat in the middle of the lineup.

    • Jason T.

      Miley is 7-3 against the Reds with a 2.86 era.
      So let’s hope he doesn’t fire up a gem against a Reds team that is striking out at a high rate.
      Looks like rain is called for this evening and tomorrow. Will be interesting if these games get played.

  15. Mark Moore

    Line-ups posted. We’ll see what happens. I hold no personal ill-will against Miley, but I hope we beat the ever-living snot out of him tonight and spoil his 2024 debut.

    Gonna take a LOT tighter playing than we saw last night to chalk up the W and guarantee a split with Bernie.

  16. Jason Franklin

    I kind of understand if Bell’s reasoning is that Candy is the “veteran leadership” and that he cannot give up on him batting 4th yet, but come on man. It would make a ton more sense to maybe try a game where CES and CANDY are dropped down a spot or two and slide up the other guys.