The Cincinnati Reds are playing their last game in spring training this afternoon. They will be the home team today at Goodyear Ballpark at 4:05pm ET as they take on their shared facility brethren, the Cleveland Guardians. Today’s game is on Bally Sports Ohio and is also a free game of the day on MLB.tv.

Reds (11-14-2) and Guardians (13-13-2) Lineups

Reds

Guardians

1 Jonathan India 2B Steven Kwan LF
2 Elly De La Cruz DH Ramon Laureano CF
3 Spencer Steer LF Jose Ramirez 3B
4 Jake Fraley RF Josh Naylor 1B
5 Jeimer Candelario 3B Andres Gimenez 2B
6 Christian Encarnacion-Strand 1B Will Brennan RF
7 Will Benson CF Gabriel Arias SS
8 Santiago Espinal SS Estevan Florial DH
9 Luke Maile C Austin Hedges C
10 Hunter Greene RHP Logan Allen LHP

Reserve players on today’s Reds roster

Pitchers Infielders
Michael Byrne Leonardo Balcazar
Alexis Diaz Trey Faltine
Peyton Gray Miguel Hernandez
Evan Kravetz Quincy McAfee
Emilio Pagan Alex McGarry
Braxton Roxby Outfielders
Tony Santillan Anthony Alford
Lucas Sims Conner Capel
Brent Suter Blake Dunn
Justin Wilson Rece Hinds
Catchers Francisco Urbaez
Mat Nelson
Eric Yang

Where to watch/listen/follow the game

Bally Sports Ohio will broadcast the game this afternoon. It will also be available for free on MLB.tv. To listen to the game on the radio it will be available on 700 WLW. If you want to follow along with gameday, here is your link for that.

News and Notes

TJ Friedl updates

If there’s going to be some good news about a guy who has a broken wrist and is going to miss the start of the season, I guess it’s that he could return a little bit sooner than initially expected. Charlie Goldsmith of the Cincinnati Enquirer is reporting that manager David Bell said the timeline for return is 6-8 weeks, but it may be closer to six. There didn’t seem to be clarification as to whether that timetable is from today or from when the injury occurred.

High School graduation

In one of the cooler stories you will see, C. Trent Rosecrans of The Athletic covered the Cincinnati Reds high school graduation that took place on Friday morning. The ceremony was for several minor league players who were signed internationally and opted to continue their education through a program the Reds offer. Just about everyone in the organization showed up – including many of the big league players and coaching staff.

73 Responses

  1. Jim Walker

    Bell is a master of ambiguity when he talks about injuries, especially the return dates. In this case, 6 weeks from now would be about 8 weeks from when it happened. At times, I wonder if he is misleading himself to feel the road ahead isn’t as long.

    • greenmtred

      Jim, every time I’ve had an orthopedic surgery, the surgeon has expressed the length of time for my recovery as a range: 10-12 weeks. 6-8 weeks. And even that is a guess, the accuracy of which will be determined by the diligence of the patient. Doesn’t it seem possible–likely–that Bell is simply reporting what has been related to him? The ambiguity is in the actual prognosis.

      • Jim Walker

        Of course, but, do you believe Bell hasn’t been told 6-8 weeks regarding an identified starting point, such as from the initial incident or the latest exam? But he rarely references what starting point in his talks with the media.

      • greenmtred

        The starting point for me, in all of my orthopedic surgeries, was always the surgery itself. In the cases of Friedl and McLain, I think it hasn’t been clear initially that surgery would be required. As for what Bell is told and when, I obviously don’t know, though I’d guess that he’s given timely updates since, clearly, he needs to plan and make decisions based on the doctors’ best estimates. But this can’t be said for us, and I doubt that keeping fans in the loop on an up-to-the-minute basis is top of mind for Bell or Krall or the medical staff. I also doubt, but do not know, that other teams feel much differently about this.

    • 2020ball

      Why does any of this even matter?

    • LDS

      It matters because Bell has routinely, throughout his tenure, misrepresented the state of injuries. Remember it was only about a week ago that he said McLain would be back in the lineup, only to reverse and say he’ll likely need surgery. As I’ve said, the Reds need better public facing communications. And before someone starts screaming player privacy, HIPPA etc, there are ways to communicate that respect that. Bell just isn’t good at it.

      • 2020ball

        I guess i’ll try again, why does any of that even matter?

      • Mark Moore

        Privacy concerns aside, I tend to agree with you. I’ve never been impressed with HDTBell’s ability to communicate to the world outside of the dugout. There probably are times he should just avoid commenting rather than ramble on. MattyMc’s situation was probably one of those.

      • LDS

        @2020, it’s about integrity and setting expectations. No different than your expectations of your manager.

      • Optimist

        I’m with 2020 on the issue – I guess it matters a bit, is there an MLB rule on reporting injuries? IIRC the NFL is pretty strict about this – didn’t John Clayton start his career and immediately get in trouble by covering Steeler misreporting of injury status?

        Does MLB require anything other than roster limits and gameday lineups?

        Does a manager have any official role, or is this just a fan complaint?

      • 2020ball

        I care about integrity and setting expectations on the field, this talk about a few weeks on a timeline for a brand new injury is definitely not that. I also highly doubt another manager would be any different.

      • greenmtred

        So he was making it up, huh? Why on earth would he say anything other than what he was told by the medical staff? Because he likes to mislead fans? And I agree with 2020: it doesn’t matter.

      • LDS

        It does matter and I’m not sure I’d characterize it as lying. He always has to have “the answer”, even when he’s winging it. Imagine, with respect to McLain, he could have said something like he’ll take a couple of days rest and see where things are then – no misrepresentation and privacy violations.

      • greenmtred

        Have you ever had an orthopedic surgeon give you a recovery time that was an exact date? As I said above, they’ve given me a range–usually about two weeks give or take. The surgeon can’t know exactly, so how could a manager?

      • Luke J

        With injuries, the information that is known can change by the minute. It doesn’t mean a person is lying or being deceptive because they say one thing and it changes shortly after. It just means the information has changed. You just want to complain about Bell.

      • 2020ball

        Sounds like thats what happened then. Initially they had nothing to go on until they did more tests, same as… hmmm… i guess every injury.

        Crazy how the people that dislike the manager the most are the ones who hang on to every single word, just waiting for any little thing they can latch onto to complain about. I cant even remember the last time i watched or looked for anything Bell has said.

        Convince me theres an issue here, why do we need the manager to be completely accurate on every injury at every moment? Make it make sense.

      • LDS

        Now that is funny. And as factually inaccurate as Bell’s injury reports. As for an orthopedist estimate of an injury? Yeah, sadly I have.

      • greenmtred

        Then what’s your point, LDS? Your beef is with those surgeons who are so mediocre that can’t tell you when you’ll be completely healed.

      • LDS

        The point is organizational effectiveness which the Reds lack. The orthopedic staff didn’t tell Bell that McLain would be ready in a couple of days. He said that. But we’ll continue to disagree as we have for several seasons. But hey, the state of the roster is perfect for the Bell apologists. If only everyone had been healthy…. This is taking too much of time. You guys enjoy.

      • Optimist

        I’ve lost the thread here – is there an update on McLain’s injury? I see Doug referenced a report on Friedl (I’ll believe it when I see him return), but it’s plausible even if not a written update signed by a radiologist.

        Again – any more news on McLain, or is still somewhere between “a few days” and career ending untreatable chronic shoulder deterioration?

      • Jim Walker

        That Bell cannot effectively communicate with the media matters because of the image of the organization that projects to the public. But we can live with that.

        However, even more importantly, why should we believe Bell is any more effective in communicating with the coaches who he supervises or his players? And when we see all the little things that happen on the field that never get cleaned up, that only reinforces the image.

      • 2020ball

        The image of the organization?? pssshhh poppycock, they dont owe us anything especially if thats your attitude IMO. Complain about all the small stuff if you want i guess.

      • 2020ball

        How well a manager speaks to the public matters so little to me. I only care about what happens on the field, of course we could quibble on that all we want but id much prefer that discourse.

    • CI3J

      Even if Friedl is back in 6 weeks, he’s still not going to be the hitter he was. Wrist injuries for baseball players tend to continue to limit swinging ability long after they are “healed”.

      It could be August before we see Friedl hitting like he’s capable of.

      • Optimist

        Mostly agree here, though I’m expecting July 1, which includes 10-14 days in AA/AAA rehab.

    • Justin T

      The great Einstein once said, “If can’t explain it simply, you don’t understand it well enough.”

      Pretty much how I feel about our manager.

      • DaveCT

        I don’t fault Bell, or Krall, for something they can’t really do.The club desperately needs someone to do PR.

        I’ve come to appreciate Krall, and he’s gotten a little better with communications with the public. I can accept that he’s not Theo Epstein, so be it, right?

        Bell’s PR is equally unimpressive. He’s flat affect, he jumbles his thoughts, he hems and haws, etc. So, he’s too, is not a PR guy. I can deal with that.

        My main objection is the expectation that the broadcasting crew do that job, be it promoting India and TySteve last year as the ‘new leaders,’ or whatever PR the Reds want. That is not the function of broadcasters, and it just reeks of home jobbing literally everything.

        Why would anyone find the broadcasters credible when they are doing the organizational PR in addition to calling the game, reporting the clubhouse, and critiquing the front office?

        It’s just all wrong. Every last bit. And, as above, it reeks. But, you know, where else are we going to go?

      • Jim Walker

        @DaveCT>> +1000 on them hiring a professional talking head.

      • 2020ball

        That sounds more like occams razor to me

  2. Mark Moore

    Last one from Goodyear. And finally get to watch two in a row.

  3. Mark Moore

    Hung that one a bit to the wrong guy.

  4. Thatthathadhad

    Ooooops there goes another one.

    • Doc

      Not to worry. Doug keeps admonishing that this is ST and Greene is working on things.

  5. Mark Moore

    Bit of a gift ball 4. Catcher stood up a little too early methinks. India was a dead duck.

  6. Mark A Verticchio

    I am very concerned about Greene being the #2, I would much rather it be Ashcraft with his bull dog mentality.

    • Mark Moore

      Other than him pitching the 2nd game, he’ll toe the rubber every 5 game days like everybody else. It’s probably just me, but I’ve never really gotten into the ranking of pitchers that way. To me, he’s just one of 5.

      • JB WV

        Right. How long does the original rotation even stay in order? Middle May if we’re lucky

    • Jason Franklin

      I really think Greene may find himself in the bullpen before too long if he has any issues and if he cannot learn to throw a third pitch/or learn to mix his pitches better. I think he could be a stud of a closer or a high leverage setup guy in the future. That would make the Reds look foolish (with the contract they gave him), but you cannot keep running out a guy who cannot learn to improve.

    • Jim Walker

      The box score says Greene pitched 3 innings and allowed 1 run on 2 hits, K’d 2 and walked 1. Why is everyone so upset?

      • TR

        Well said. Pitching maturity varies, and it usually takes awhile. Game by game.

  7. Mark Moore

    Another sharply slapped oppo for the New Guy! 🙂

  8. Mark A Verticchio

    The new guy looks good. Great pick up for who knows how much.

    • Mark Moore

      Solid glove and a willingness to go with the pitch. That certainly works for me.

      • DaveCT

        The assumption is, I’ve heard, that Espinal goes out when McLain returns.

        I don’t think so. I think he stays on. And when Marte returns, he starts at AAA and may spend the season there.

        He’ll have paid his penalty, but not necessarily his penalty to his teammates.

  9. Mark Moore

    Much better and more efficient inning from Mr. Greene. I’m sure HDTBell wants him to go 5 like Frankie did yesterday.

  10. Mark Moore

    That was a big boy swat by Steer.

    • Mark Moore

      Boilers are a heavy favorite to take it to the house this season. I don’t have a dog in the hunt, so I’ll happily pull for them.

      • TR

        It’s a longtime ago and I went to school in Bloomington, so I’ll pull for anyone but the Boilermakers.

  11. Mark A Verticchio

    It might not be that big of a deal but I like a solid pitcher in game 2 of the season. In game one everybody goes with their ace so if you do lose I want my next best in game 2, nobody wants to start 0 and 2. Right now Greene is not the 2nd best pitcher, more like 4 or 5.

    • Mark Moore

      It’s solid logic, Mark. We won’t know until we see him back at GABP this weekend, but Game #2 of the season can carry some weight like that.

  12. Mark Moore

    At little defensive pinball action and we get another run across.

  13. Mark Moore

    Love a big inning no matter how it comes about. Steer did a nice job going with that pitch and everybody was running with 2 outs.

  14. Mark Moore

    Tony the Tiger gets some help working out of that little jam. Per the Guardrails booth, we’re supposed to see Diaz at some point today.

    • greenmtred

      Guardrails. I like it. It would make for a strange mascot.

  15. Mike Adams

    Wow.
    That last inning at bat for the Reds looked bad. The bat didn’t even sniff the ball, except for one foul off.
    First time this spring I got to see any baseball on tv. The Reds have a 6-2 lead so maybe I was a jinx for that half inning when the Reds were at bat.

  16. Indy Red Man

    Thursday supposed to be the same as today. Clear skies and high of 53. I’m sure they’ll take that

  17. LarkinPhillips

    Was HG expected to only go 3 innings today? Seems odd to be that short of an appearance headed into the season.

    • Optimist

      Pitch count? Gamecast not showing it.

      • Mark Moore

        He was a little high, but only in the low 40’s through 3.

  18. Mark Moore

    Were it a real game, that inning would have warranted a Stink. Fish. Pot!!

  19. Mark A Verticchio

    Diaz is becoming a major concern, I hope he can turn it on starting Thursday. As he gives up a home run, so many concerns.

    • Jason Franklin

      He really wasn’t that great the last month or so of last season either. Pagan may become the closer before you know it.

  20. Mark Moore

    And ugly is as ugly does …

    Catch you all for the regular season. I’m going for a walk.

  21. Mark A Verticchio

    It’s strange a month ago I felt really good about this team, but since the Marte incident it’s been one problem after another. Right now I have no idea what to expect.

    • Jason Franklin

      I think the best approach to take especially with a third of the lineup being gone with injuries or stupidity, is to go game by game and don’t expect too much from the team to start the season. May be another transition year for the Redlegs.

  22. Old Big Ed

    On injuries, it’s been pretty well SOP for athletes, mothers and kids to be told that a fracture will take “6 to 8 weeks” to heal. Unlike chicken “parts” — “parts is parts,” after all — all fractures are not the same, nor is each individual the same. Some people heal faster, for reasons that are not apparent. The Reds have said that Friedl’s fracture is “small.”

    So, maybe Friedl’s fracture will be healed in 6 weeks (late April), or maybe it won’t. Yeah, a lot of wrist injuries linger, but if this is a straightforward small fracture that did not impact any tendons or soft tissue, then it should be a matter of the bone healing, Friedl’s getting 35 ABs in AAA, and returning to Cincinnati. From the general vibe about Friedl’s injury, I sense that he will be back in Cincinnati before late May.

    I don’t think the Reds owe any duty of precision to us. The injury is what it is, and it will heal when it heals. The doctors probably have a good general idea of when to expect him back, but their duty is to their patient, not to us or to David Bell.

    I agree that Bell is not very good on television. He is probably strong one-on-one with players — which is more important in his actual job duties — but he gives lousy TV interviews. Strangely enough, I think Bell would come across a lot better on TV if he took off his cap for interviews, because the cap obscures the subtleties of facial expressions that make it easier to understand what he is saying.