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30 Responses

  1. Shel Keitel

    Cincinnati doesn’t deserve to participate in the postseason because the Reds didn’t deserve to take part in the postseason. Just watch the condensed game replays on MLBtv (it’s free) and you will see the utterly amazing offensive power of deserving playoff teams who not only score big, but they score big in the clutch. If someone compiled a “best of the Reds in all of 2023” video, it might compare in awesome offensive firepower to what the winning 2023 playoff teams display in a single game. Wait ’til next year.

    • Frankie Tomatoes

      The Cincinnati Reds scored more runs than the Minnesota Twins, Arizona Diamondbacks, and the Milwaukee Brewers.

      • Shel Keitel

        Maybe. But they wasted so many on blowouts and then got blown away the next day. The Reds only sporadically scored in the clutch. When they were good, they were very, very good, but when they were bad . . . well, you know.

      • Doug Gray

        What do you mean, maybe? The Reds did score more runs than those teams. It’s not an opinion.

        Every team is good when they’re good and not when they’re not.

      • CI3J

        Shel, I think what you were getting at was that the Reds needed to be more consistent in their offensive output.

        To wit, take a look at the number of runs the Reds scored by month:

        April: 121

        May: 131

        June: 153(!)

        July: 117

        August 115

        September: 139

        Not coincidentally, they had their best monthly record in June (18-9) and their worst monthly record in August (10-17).

        Basically, they lost their chance at the playoffs in August. If they had scored just a few more runs in that month, they would have won a few more games, and that would have sent them to the playoffs.

        The collective team hitting stats for August were brutal:


        For the record, having a monthly offensive collapse is not unique to the Reds. But better teams have the pitching to bail them out, which is what happened to the Reds in July. The Reds’ pitching came through in a big way in that month, putting up a team ERA of 3.51, which was nearly a point and a half better than their next best month (4.92 in April) and definitely better than August (5.03).

        Bottom line? The Reds need to be more consistent overall. If they can shave somewhere between half a run to a full run off their team ERA, and consistently put up about 130 runs per month, they’ll be in a good place.

      • TR

        A good example of ‘good when they’re good and not when they’re not’ is the Dodgers, who had a great regular season, in the playoffs who gave off an attitude of why are we still playing instead of being home or at the beach.

    • Klugo

      The city of Cincinnati and Reds fans absolutely deserve it. The are fanbase is underrated and one of the best baseball fanbases in the entire sport.

      • MK

        Only deserve it if win enough games which they did not. I saw a lot of empty seats at GABP down the stretch that I did not see in Chicago Milwaukee, Arizona, or even out of contention teams like New York or St.Louis. So I don’t know why the sporadic attending Reds fans get a tear over those other fans. Fill the place up then talk.

      • Shel Keitel

        …and develop a bullpen that can get outs with RISP.

  2. Roger Garrett

    Just want the Reds to compete for titles year after year and that takes an organization willing to do so.No secret the Reds have some young talent but how many of our players would start for other clubs?Watched a little of the game last night and who do we have that would play on those teams?Reds have a chance right now to take another step next year but they have holes to fill and will they do it?A starter,a right handed power bat and at least 3 power arms in the pen would go a long way but it will take some doing with money and players.We have some trade chips but will the money comes with it?Its always about the money especially in baseball.

    • Klugo

      Not all that many…. yet. But that can be said for many of these players elsewhere when they were rookies. These young guys have shown they have talent. They will learn and grow. They’ll get there, but the FO does need to back them up and fill in the gaps.

    • Shel Keitel

      Nick Castellanos, Kyle Farmer, Jesse Winker, Eugenio Suarez, and yes, even Mike Moustachios made the playoffs. Elly Kalamazoo la Cruz and the rest of the brat pack did not.

  3. rednat

    the pandemic set us back. 2020 was to be a break out year for the reds as far as performance and ticket sales. if the pandemic didn’t happen i think Castellanos is still a red and we make the playoffs this year!

    • Shel Keitel

      …but the pandemic was an equal opportunity excuse for every other team as well.

  4. David

    Well, speaking of “playoffs”, I kind of expected a few postings on the status of things in the NL and AL, and allow us dummies to make snarky remarks.

    And talk about team with a lot of offensive firepower, let’s talk about the Atlanta Braves, and the probably MVP from their team.

    WHAT HAPPENED? It’s like they just didn’t show up.

    • Doug Gray

      In the past few years I’ve made “playoff discussion threads” and it honestly didn’t do much to make it worth it. We’re talking just hundreds of clicks, and mostly just the same handful of users creating those clicks.

      • David

        Doug, really, it’s okay. We can always babble among ourselves. 🙂

      • Shel Keitel

        Can you build an edit function into the discussion threads for those of us who so often misspeak and need to correct a comment when we are thinking out loud?

    • wkuchad

      Well, that’s just depressing. And somewhat embarrassing.

      • RedsFanInFL

        You can actually extend it out to 28 years and the Reds are still on the bottom row with nothing

      • David

        You’ll get nothing and like it!

        I mean, where else are you going to go to be a baseball fan? – Phil Castellini

        Yeah, yay Bob and the ownership group. Success!!!

    • Rednat

      Yes. I guess we picked a bad century to be a reds fan. Don’t worry there is always next century

    • CI3J

      And the White Sox won it all in 2005, just 18 years ago.

  5. LDS

    Cincinnati deserves playoff baseball? Right, and new team ownership, new front office personnel, and new field managers. And guess what, fans aren’t likely to get any of that. If the Bell extension and the Krall/Meador promotions, during the season, doesn’t tell fans the organization’s priorities, we aren’t paying attention.

    • Shel Keitel

      David Bell is schizophrenic. He has only two speeds: lethargic, and manic outbursts that get him tossed.

  6. doofus

    Jeez you goobers are in good spirits on this fine sunny Sunday morning. Did someone pee in your fruit loops?

    • Pete

      Just imagine the mood if the team would have lost 100 games….