It’s been a rare occurrence where the Cincinnati Reds (81-78) and the St. Louis Cardinals (69-90) meet for the final series of the season and it’s the Cardinals who have nothing to play for, but indeed, that is what we have in 2023.

The Cardinals were eliminated weeks ago and will finish with at least 90 losses this season. The Reds, however, still have a chance, even if it’s the slightest chance. Brandon Williamson gets the start, as the Reds need a series sweep (and some help) to ensure a playoff spot. First pitch is at 8:15 pm EDT.


Cincinnati Reds

St. Louis Cardinals

2B Jonathan India 2B Tommy Edman
CF T.J. Friedl 1B Paul Goldschmidt
LF Spencer Steer RF Jordan Walker
1B Christian Encarnacion-Strand DH Luken Baker
DH Nick Martini CF Lars Nootbaar
C Tyler Stephenson C Andrew Knizner
SS Elly De La Cruz 3B Jose Fermin
3B Noelvi Marte LF Richie Palacios
RF Will Benson SS Masyn Winn


Starting Pitchers

Brandon Williamson 111.0 4.54 1.29 37 96
Jake Woodford 46.0 5.09 1.65 21 29
Links: Brandon Williamson’s Stats | Jake Woodford’s Stats

Brandon Williamson

Brandon Williamson’s season had its ups and downs, but overall, it can be considered a successful rookie season for the 25-year-old left-hander. He increased his innings total by about 30 innings from the previous year. In 2022, he pitched 122.2 innings at Double-A. This year, it increased to 145 innings (and counting)– 34.0 at Triple-A and 111.0 at the MLB level. The ERA may not show it, but Williamson has had some promising starts in 2023. He’ll be heavily considered to be in the starting rotation in 2024.

One thing that helped Williamson is the development of his cutter. He has only gotten more and more comfortable using it as the season has progressed. He was only using it about 20 percent of the time after introducing it in May, but now in September uses it about 31 percent of the time. It’s become his secondary pitch after the four seam fastball.


RHH 382 86 23 1 16 8% 21% .245 .305 .453
LHH 85 20 2 0 1 9% 18% .270 .345 .338

Pitch Usage

4-Seam 2-Seam Cutter Curve Slider Change
Velo 92.5 91.9 89.1 73.5 81.7 84.1
Usage 41% .04% 23% 8% 13% 15%

Jake Woodford

Most Reds fans know Jake Woodford from the moment in April 2021 when Nick Castellanos scored a run at GABP and then stood over him at home plate. This year, the 26-year-old right-hander has been on and off the injured list this season with right shoulder issues throughout the season, and has appeared in only 14 games for the Cardinals.

Woodford started six games in April, but after a few bad starts, the Cardinals moved him to the bullpen when he returned from the injured list in June. He was the pitcher who could get them through two or three innings out of the bullpen, if needed. He’s made two appearances in September thus far, allowing only one run on five hits in 6.1 innings.

Lefties have hit him well in 2023. In 103 plate appearances, left-handed hitters are hitting .326 against him with five home runs. They’re getting on-base at a .379 clip. It’d sure be nice to have a certain first baseman in the lineup tonight who gets on base a lot, wouldn’t it? Joey Votto only has two hits and a walk in six plate appearances against Woodford, including a home run.


RHH 107 25 8 1 3 13% 16% .275 .374 .484
LHH 103 30 5 0 5 7% 12% .326 .379 .544

Pitch Usage

4-Seam 2-Seam Cutter Curve Slider Change
Velo 93.0 92.2 90.1 76.6 82.1 86.2
Usage 8% 48% 8% 8% 24.0% 5%


  • Time: 8:15 pm EDT
  • Place: Busch Stadium, St. Louis, Missouri
  • Weather: 79 degrees, clear, 0 percent chance of rain
  • TV: Bally Sports Ohio
  • Radio: 700 WLW

News and Notes

Nick Krall, Brad Meador have been promoted

About 90 minutes prior to the game, news broke that the Reds had promoted Nick Krall to President of Baseball Operations and Brad Meador was promoted to General Manager. We wrote about both, and have some words from Krall on the moves from this evening.

Playoff Scenarios

The Reds have not been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs yet. It’s going to be difficult, but there’s a path. Redleg Nation has you covered with every scenario possible this weekend. You should be rooting for the Pirates, Brewers, and Astros too.

Today’s Roster Move

It was a minor one, but Daniel Duarte went on the IL and the Reds made a corresponding roster move.

241 Responses

  1. Melvin

    Ya think we’d better win today? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  2. LarkinPhillips

    No Votto, no Fraley verse a right hander who lefties hit well. Bell is am incredible analytics guy. Honestly we are most likely eliminated and I would have liked to have seen Votto start all 3 games.

    Let’s go Reds and beat the devilbirds!

    • Mark Moore

      No Fraley I get. He needs that toe surgery sooner as opposed to later. Skipping Joey at DH? That’s a “classic” HDTBell head-scratcher.

    • JB

      Fraley hasn’t done anything since he returned.

    • LarkinPhillips

      For the record I agree on Fraley. At this point shut him down and call up Hurtubise. He is going to have to be added to 40 man anyway to protect him. Let him get his feet wet.

  3. Mark Moore

    Regardless of what happens elsewhere, I really want to Kick this WLB Dirty Bird Pig right in the teeth … THREE TIMES!!!

    • LT

      It coneโ€™s down to Reds taking care of their business, Pirates helping, and Cubs cub it up. It can very much happen.

  4. Mark Moore

    Let’s get a little business out of the way right now, so it doesn’t slip my mind later this weekend.

    I’m distributing +2,134,750 equally among my fellow RLN commenters, with a bias toward those who I have interacted with more. It’s been an exciting ride and it’s not quite over yet. Even this offseason should provide some solid fodder for discussion as we look toward what could be a very bright 2024.

    Thanks all for seeing me through and putting up with the crap I sometimes dish out … ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜› ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • LarkinPhillips

      +1000. It’s been a fun season and should be some.good debates through out this off season.

    • Pete

      MM – you have always been my favorite. I assume we are talking dollars.

      • Melvin

        I wander if he will do direct deposit?

      • Mark Moore

        Pete and Melvin – it will be a crypto currency of my own invention. I’ll distribute via RLN once it’s up and running ๐Ÿ˜›

      • Melvin

        Maybe in gift certificates for meals at your house? ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Pete

        MM why not, letโ€™s give it a try.

  5. JB

    That’s why Martini is playing over Votto and Fraley.

    • LarkinPhillips

      Maybe he should have been for the past week and a half then?

    • Mark Moore

      At least over Fraley. I think we’re all happy with the result there.

  6. Mark Moore

    That’s the way to start things.

  7. Harry Stoner

    Can anyone explain Nick Martini to me?

    • Mark Moore

      You take a jigger of gin, two of vermouth, and maybe some vodka … ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

      • Daytonnati

        Nice, I like one part vermouth, three parts vodka – shaken not stirred, two olives.

      • Mark Moore

        I’m not a martini guy. I just know some of the booze used in variations.

    • RedsMonk65

      A curious case to be sure. Glad he’s in the lineup tonight, though.

  8. Brian Rutherford

    Nice hit by Martini there. Good call by Bell to start him and keep JDV for the bench bat when/if needed

    • VaRedsFan

      I remember it taking forever to break in a new glove.

      • Rick

        Gosh me too! I rolled & curved them. Put a ball inside and taped them up. Tried mineral oil on the exterior. Slept on it under my pillow! Tried everything!

  9. Brian Rutherford

    I don’t know if I had TJ Friedl having a higher OPS than Goldschmidt on my bingo card for this season.

  10. Mark Moore

    The boys came to play. Now to India just to lift one a little bit (or a hit).

  11. RedsMonk65

    EDLC, Benson team up for another run. That’s the way I like it! Nice to have a lead early for once. Let’s keep it this time.

    • Melvin

      “Thatโ€™s the way I like it”

      Maybe you should write a song? ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • RedsMonk65

        I don’t wish to torment anyone.

  12. Melvin

    Pirates still leading 3-0 in the 7th.

  13. RedsMonk65

    Captain Jack India! Keep it going, guys. Pour it on.

  14. Pete

    Reds cannot lose this game. I donโ€™t care what it takes but they must win. If it means emptying out the bullpen, so be it.

  15. Old-school

    Dont understand the Benson had a bad 8 day streak while others scream he shouldnt bat 8th and bat 3rd instead

    Whats obvious is he a corner outfielder against righties and India does his best castellanos crush woodford impression

  16. Melvin

    Cool lead. Let’s not get TOO happy if you know what a mean. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • RedsMonk65

      True. OK, how’s this: ๐Ÿ™

      ( ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

      • Melvin

        Just keep the enthusiasm in check buddy until the game is over. ๐Ÿ™‚

  17. Moon

    Love this early lead then I remember the Reds blew a 9-0 lead to the Pirates a few days ago. i will never be comfortable with these guys but it is looking good so far.

    • RedsMonk65

      Too true. Hopefully, they learned their lesson and don’t let up.

    • Hanawi

      Better than the reverse, that’s for sure.

  18. RedsGettingBetter

    The kids are showing attitude so far

  19. Mark Moore

    Goldy doesn’t look amused out there. Nice play to save what was probably a triple.

    • Rick

      Our boy Steer has by around 11 rbi’s now too.

  20. Mark Moore

    Woodford looking in to Oli Marmol for relief … and that’s gonna happen.

    • Mark Moore

      Probably not the end to his 2023 season he envisioned. Wonder if he’ll avoid the post-game presser. I know I would.

      • Rick

        I’d just go ahead and pack up and hide in a corner, a really dark one.

  21. Hanawi

    I wonder if Votto is hurting again. Seems odd that he didn’t start and this following the last game against the Guardians where he didn’t play when there were clear options for him to pinch hit. Not a complaint at all, but seems like a strange time to start going off performance if that’s the reason.

    • Rick

      Bell said he’d be available off the bench. You know he’s likely hurting pretty good.

  22. RedsMonk65

    Steer! What the heck is going on? Nice to see, but I hope it continues for the next three days at least. Too many times we’ve seen occasional offensive outbursts like this, and then the bats go dormant for the next X number of innings. Hopefully this is not one of those times.

  23. Mark Moore

    “Clean up in the Bally Ohio visitor TV booth … Sadak’s head has exploded … again.”

    • Rick

      It’s a shame that he has a bag of replacement heads.

      • Mark Moore

        Kind of like Tony Shaloub’s character in Men In Black

  24. Melvin

    Hard to make a worse play than that. Stop it guys. RIGHT NOW.

  25. Daytonnati

    Elly’s card reads: “Aim at chest.”

  26. Beaufort Red

    Iโ€™d like next years infield to be CES, Steer, McClain and Marte. Outfield Friedl in center and figure out the rest.

    • Mark Moore

      Who to you put at SS and 2B in that mix? Is Steer your everyday 2B? It could work.

    • Rick

      Hinds has a cannon too and projects as RF in the big leagues. How about Elly in center, when/if Hinds is up in 25?

    • Brian Rutherford

      Elly is in my infield. I have Elly at third, Marte at short, Mac at 2nd, CES at 1b.

      Steer in LF, Bellinger in CF and Benson in RF.

  27. Mark Moore

    Got to love timely Bike Helmets after some sloppy play up the middle. Lucky rebounds on both of those plays.

  28. Rick

    What has Brad done for you!
    It’s a joke:)

  29. LDS

    Up 7-0? Why is it that we Reds fans arenโ€™t comfortable?

    • RedsMonk65

      OK, Cardinals get two runs. But that’s it. We need this game too much.

  30. Mark Moore

    India a little wild, but Bike Helmets anyway to hopefully turn the tide. Nice stretch by CES.

  31. Pete

    Marlins tied it up the scores now 3-3

    • RedsGettingBetter

      Really a bad inning from Selby …

  32. Mark Moore

    A moon shot and he extended his hit streak. 14 games I believe is a Reds rookie record.

    • Mark Moore

      Way less ego than Machado. More like Miggy at the start.

    • Melvin

      They had bases loaded and the Pirates got out of it. Time for some Pirate runs?

  33. Pete

    Marlins take the lead in the eighth inning, itโ€™s now 4 to 3 and they are still batting.

    • Mark Moore

      I’m afraid that apart from a complete collapse by the Snakes and that mythical 4-way tie for 2 spots, Sunday is our last game. I know that’s not positive energy, but the math and that score in Pittsburgh works hard against us. Maybe the Phish have to go back to play that last little bit against the Metros. But, again, that’s a lot of “ifs”.

      • RedsMonk65

        Could be. Likely, in fact. Reds are in this situation (needing help) through no one’s fault but their own. They didn’t take care of business when they needed to a week or so ago. But we can still enjoy the moment and hope for the best.

      • Mark Moore

        Exactly, RedsMonk65. This is where many of us would recall games with choices made or not made by a certain field Manager that could have added even a couple of wins (which take away losses). May not have won the NLC, but we could be sitting much closer to Philly’s spot.

  34. Rick

    I like Marte & his Miggy personna too.

  35. RedsMonk65

    OK, 9 more runs and we can relax — maybe.

  36. Melvin

    We MIGHT win this game….might. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  37. Melvin

    Leadoff man on for the Pirates in the 8th.

    • Pete

      David Robertsonโ€™s coming on glued too. Have to give it to the Pirates they areplaying with everything theyโ€™ve got!

      • RedsMonk65

        Pirates are a pesky young team (as they showed the Reds last week). Can’t count on them inhabiting last place in the division in 2024. They come to play.

  38. RedsMonk65

    Hey, that CES kid can hit. Maybe he’s our “big stick” cleanup hitter as we move forward……

    OK, let’s get 12 more.

    • RedsMonk65

      Wow, now 14-2. I was just kidding. At this rate, we might actually score 24 runs.

  39. Mark Moore

    3rd deck blast … Thrall just said the boys are “seeing beachballs tonight”. I tend to agree.

  40. LDS

    I do hope Bell leaves these guys in and doesnโ€™t start โ€œmanagingโ€. They seriously need the psychological boost of knowing they can destroy the opposition. No more โ€œlet everyone playโ€, etc. Just crush the opponent. And realize you can.

  41. Melvin

    Well….we still might win. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  42. Mark Moore

    Leading 2 touchdowns to a safety … don’t stop yet. Just watch the WLB’s fans start to leave early.

    Goldy must really be ready for his golf season to start.

    And if that was 428 feet, CES was WAY more than 418.

  43. Brian Rutherford

    It’s weird to compare some players. I have always liked Edman for example but India is better than Edman is everything in other than defense. I don’t know what the future holds for India and the Reds but I sure would like for them to find a place for him that makes sense.

    • VaRedsFan

      When Friedl was emerging last year, I was comparing him to Bader or Edman.
      Friedl has exceeded those two now.

      • Mark Moore

        Something seems to have clicked with TJ based on what I’m seeing.

  44. RedlegScott

    Holy cow, it’s an absolute barrage of hitting. Same some for tomorrow, guys (or just do it again).

  45. RedsMonk65

    Lars Nootbar is my favorite player’s name in all of baseball.

  46. Melvin

    Miami just bunted a runner over to second. Cheaters.

  47. RedlegScott

    Six homers through four innings. When’s the last time that happened?

  48. VaRedsFan

    Bell, in his pregame speech, was overheard saying…”Guys, we really need this one.”

    • Melvin

      โ€Guys, we really need this one.โ€

      Such a profound motivating statement. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Mark Moore

      Followed by “Juice boxes and orange slices are over there.”

      ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

      • Melvin

        However. You will still get your participation trophy win or lose. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • VaRedsFan

      There was no voice inflection, but he reportedly did raise an eyebrow.

      • Mark Moore

        Quite possibly because a fly had landed on it.

  49. Melvin

    Going to the bottom of the 9th in Pittsburgh. Miami 4-3

    • LDS

      To be expected, I think. The playoffs matter less than these guys hammering the Cards. With the exception of Martini vs. Fraley, and assuming the Reds FO hesitancy to spend, these guys could be the starters next year. Bell should just play them throughout the series and reinforce their performance

  50. Mark Moore

    Nice play from EDLC. What a thrill for the fans in the first 2 rows!

    “I caught a ball at the game. What did you get?”

    “I caught EDLC!”

  51. Melvin

    Now see. That’s what he can do in the outfield over the wall. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Mark Moore

      I’m practicing saying “Go Phish!” just so the Stupid Cubs don’t make it in.

    • GPod

      stupid pirate bullpen! Thanks for nothin!

    • RedsMonk65

      Poo. Marlins likely too much to overcome at this late stage.

      • Melvin

        Maybe better chance of Arizona losing three in a row.

  52. RedsGettingBetter

    Pirates dropped the lead letting Miami to win … Incredible

  53. GPod

    Basically need a Astros sweep…..well at least Houston is in a fight in the American League and need to win….so they will be battling

    • Mark Moore

      Houston is fighting for their lives right now. Maybe that does play into our hands if the Snakes fade fast and hard, even if the Phish continue to swim forward.

  54. RedsGettingBetter

    Williamson gives a walk to the 9th batter in a 14-2 game… LOL

    • Melvin

      Just cant’ help it. It’s in their blood. ๐Ÿ™‚

  55. Rick

    Williamson is still covid struggling. That stuff wore me out.
    His jersey was soaked in the 4th. Plus, pitching more season innings.

    • Brian Rutherford

      The STL starter was soaked in sweat too. It must be a difficult night to pitch.

      • Rick

        Yes he was. I went to a convention in St. Louis during this time of year in 1996 and the humidity was awful. My suit was bad enough, but in a stressful game plus a uniform.

    • Mark Moore

      And he’s a day early as well. He was supposed to pitch tomorrow. Overall, not a bad performance for the rookie.

      • Rick

        Not at all. Glad he’s made it atleast thru 5 with a lead.

      • Rick

        Yes. I hope Connor is sharp again tomorrow.

  56. Mark Moore

    Oli beginning to throw in the towel. Siani in for Nootbaar (probably went for a snack). Goldy is done for tonight.

  57. Rick

    When MM gets healthy next year, I like our blend of cerebral guys, energy guys. They’re all cerebral at this level, but some way way more than others.

  58. Melvin

    Milwaukee still leading Chicago 3-0 top of 7th.

  59. RedsMonk65

    Hey, when did Siani become a Cardinal, and how? Guess I missed something somewhere. He was with Louisville much of this summer, I know.

    • Melvin

      DFA for a roster spot. Cardinals picked him up.

    • RedsMonk65

      Hmmm. Just went back and looked it up. Missed that at the time. Sounds like he was dumped to make room for Renfroe and Bader. Hate to lose him. Not a great hitter, but good defensively and has some speed. Only 24. There’s some value there. Would have preferred to keep him over Renfroe and Bader.

  60. VaRedsFan

    Orioles won 100 after their breakout season in 2022.

    They went out and signed:
    Kyle Gibson – 35 yrs old for 10 million (5 ERA pitcher)
    Adam Frazier – 31 yrs old for 8 million
    Picked up Mcann during this year and is owed 12 million next year. (ewww)

    That’s their highest paid guys.

    Starting pitching emerged and a great bullpen and a young core of hitters.

  61. VaRedsFan

    Wainwright 1st AB in 3 yrs and hits it 102 mph

  62. RedsGettingBetter

    I think Spiers could pitch a couple of innings there at least…

    • Mark Moore

      I would think that’s the plan. He should be able to finish the game. Especially when Elly makes a play like that one.

  63. Mark Moore

    HDTBell just couldn’t resist some changes, could he? TJ sits down for Stewie.

    • Rick

      Friedl would rarely come out. Pulling teeth would be easier.

  64. Indy Red Man

    Starting to dislike the Pirates. They come into Gabp and score 8 runs a game and beat us down, but when we need them to win they come from ahead and choke.

    Our guys just have to mature and start to put it together next year

  65. Melvin

    Milwaukee up 3-2 over the Cubs going into the bottom of the 8th.

    • Mark Moore

      Pour it on Bernies!!! Really want to see the Stupid Cubs locked out. Overtaking them would be a major feel-good thing.

      • Melvin

        We’d at least be tied after tonight if things stay the same. I know the Cubs have always been the “Stupid Cubs” to you even during the Strato season. lol

      • Mark Moore

        I picked that up from one of the former RLN forum owners. Or maybe it was Chad when he did game threads.

  66. Melvin

    I’m liking our chances a LITTLE bit more now.

  67. Mark Moore

    If you only get one hit a night, make it a triple and provide some fireworks. 18 and counting.

  68. Melvin

    De La Cruz is a triple machine if the ball gets by the outfielder.

  69. Mark Moore

    Throws another one away. What a night for the WLB Dirty Birds and their SS in particular.

  70. Melvin

    Cardinal looks like they’re mailing the season in. Hope they continue to feel that way the next two games.

    • Mark Moore

      That would be one piece to the puzzle.

      • Melvin

        No score Astros/Dbacks

        Brewers still holding on top of 9th.

  71. Mark A Verticchio

    I just hope the Reds don’t score all their weekend runs tonight.

  72. Mark Moore

    Benson got jacked. Can’t argue calls when you are this far up.

    • Mark Moore

      HDTBell working on getting tossed as well. Came close.

  73. Melvin

    Why get thrown out of the game on a called third strike when you’re up 19-2?

    • Mark Moore

      Rookie move. It was very close anyway. And you know what I think about most of these Chumpires.

    • Melvin

      Bell has to tell him to sit his butt down. Too late.

  74. RedsMonk65

    Reds are taking a big chunk out of their negative run differential tonight. Things seem pretty safe now, so I’m turning in. Gotta come back and do it again tomorrow and Sunday.

  75. Rick

    That was stupid of Benson in a blowout.

  76. Melvin

    Going to the bottom of the 9th. Brewers got to score.

  77. LarkinPhillips

    I have to wonder if there is history between Benson and Cuzzi (?) The home plate ump for Benson to react that strongly there.

      • Rick

        Yep. Might take 2 Cowgills to pill him off Cuzzi next time.

  78. Melvin

    Leadoff single for the BREWERS. ๐Ÿ™‚

  79. Mark Moore

    3 outs and don’t let them score more than 16 runs … I think they can handle that.

  80. Mark Moore

    Save situation for Spiers … ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    Weird baseball rules

  81. Mark Moore

    Unmuted the TV feed just in time to hear Sadak describe it as a “demolition” … what a maroon!!

  82. Mark Moore

    I’m only sticking around to see who gets the Jim Day interview. Frankly, it should be Williamson.

  83. RedsGettingBetter

    Reds get the job done today…..
    someone named Boushley is pitching since the 9th inning for the Brewers…

  84. Melvin

    Houston – three run homer. Lead 3-0

  85. Indy Red Man

    ESPN has 2-0? Dbacks lose on Gallens turn then who knows? Cubs top of 10 got nothing

  86. Melvin

    Cubs had bases loaded in the 10th and don’t score. ๐Ÿ™‚

  87. Mark Moore

    Bernie survived the Stupid Cubs 10th. Time to bring it home.

  88. Melvin

    We’re tied with the Cubs Mark! ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Mark Moore

      I watched it happen. BIG fun!!!

      • Melvin

        You’re supposed to let me tell you. ๐Ÿ˜€ haha

  89. Mark Moore

    Santana laces one down the oppo line and the Bernies win. The Stupid Cubs Cub and we are tied with them headed into the final two games.

  90. Indy Red Man

    Cubs are out of the way if the Reds win out.

  91. Ozzie

    Houston needs to sweep the snakes, because Miami is playing tough lately.

  92. Tim

    Astros are in a position where they must win to stay ahead of the Ms. Seattle has the lead in their game. Beat the Dbacks

  93. LDS

    Barring a Reds sweep of the Cards and an Astros sweep of AZ, I guess the playoffs are set. But, a realistic chance of finishing ahead of the Cubs. Grind the Cards into the dirt two more times. Not like beating the Dodgers, but close enough.

  94. Tom Mitsoff

    I’m sure I am missing something, but essentially the Reds have to win out and the Marlins have to lose out, right? The Marlins have that suspended game that they will probably win that they can utilize if they must. Isn’t that essentially what it comes down to now?

    • Melvin

      Arizona could lose two more and if we won our last two we’d have the tie breaker if I understand things correctly. We’d be in.

      • Melvin

        Providing they lose tonight first of course.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        So that would make Cincinnati the third Wild Card, with Philadelphia and Miami ahead of them?

      • Doug Gray

        Right. Arizona needs to lose out, Reds need to win out. Both would then have 84 wins and the Reds would get in ahead of them.

      • Melvin

        That’s the most likely scenario for us to get in I believe.

  95. Rick

    We should’ve owned the Central aside from Milwaukee. And won 40 % of those games minimum. Add another layer. win in your own park 65/35 % of home games.