With 14 games left in the season and in the middle of an extremely tight wild card race, the Cincinnati Reds (76-72) head to the Big Apple to start a weekend series with the New York Mets (68-78).

After spending a lot of money in the off season, the Mets under-performed in 2023 and were essentially out of the playoff race by the end of July. Their front office decided to trade free agents with large contracts for prospects at the deadline; however, that has not stopped the team from winning at least a few games down the stretch, as they just swept the Arizona Diamondbacks this past week.

First pitch is at 7:10 p.m. EDT.


Cincinnati Reds

New York Mets

2B Jonathan India LF Brandon Nimmo
3B Nick Senzel SS Francisco Lindor
1B Spencer Steer RF D.J. Stewart
RF Hunter Renfroe 1B Pete Alonso
DH Tyler Stephenson 2B Jeff McNeil
SS Noelvi Marte 3B Ronny Mauricio
LF T.J. Friedl DH Mark Vientos
CF Harrison Bader CF Rafael Ortega
C Luke Maile C Omar Narvaez

Starting Pitchers

Hunter Greene 91.1 4.43 1.43 44 123
David Peterson 94.1 5.34 1.60 42 103
Links: Hunter Greene’s Stats | David Peterson’s Stats

Hunter Greene

Hunter Greene came back from the Covid-IL to pitch a gem on Sunday against the Cardinals. While he only pitched six innings, he allowed just one run and struck out nine to earn the win. Greene’s had his struggles since returning in August from his hip injury, but if the last two starts are any indication, Greene is turning it around right when the Reds need him the most. The only concern would be walks allowed. He’s walked 13 batters in 18.0 innings since coming off the injured list in August. In comparison, he walked eleven batters in 28.0 innings back in April, his best month this season.

Greene is mainly a three pitch pitcher; however, he threw a splitter nine times in two rehab starts at Triple-A Louisville in early August. This is the only time he’s thrown this pitch in his life, so it could be that the pitch tracking systems were confused by what he was throwing.


RHH 221 56 19 2 9 9% 26% .280 .348 .530
LHH 186 31 8 2 5 13% 35% .198 .317 .369

Pitch Usage

4-Seam Split Slider Change
Velo 98.6 88.3 87.7 91.3
Usage 55% 0.5% 38% 7%

David Peterson

After making his debut in 2020 and struggling in 2021, left-hander David Peterson had a bit of a breakout season in 2022 for the Mets, with a 3.83 ERA in 105.2 innings. However, the struggles returned in 2023. After his first start of the season where he allowed only one run in five innings, he had a number of bad starts. This ballooned his ERA to 8.08 through mid-May and prompted him to be sent down to the minors for a month. After being called back at the end of June, Peterson pitched decently in July and August (3.27 ERA in five starts). His struggles have returned this month. In September, he’s allowed seven runs on 15 hits in only ten innings.

Peterson throws five pitches, but relies mostly on his fastball. This season, his velocity on his fastball averages in the low 90s, and his off-speed velocity averages in the mid 80s. He is a pitcher who throws strikes, with 103 strikeouts in 94.1 innings.


RHH 317 81 14 3 9 11% 23% .295 .380 .466
LHH 104 28 3 1 5 7% 28% .295 .356 .505

Pitch Usage

4-Seam 2-Seam Curve Slider Change
Velo 92.8 91.6 78.9 85.4 85.3
Usage 30% 22% 10% 21% 17%


  • Time: 7:10 p.m. EDT
  • Place: Citi Field, Flushing, NY
  • Weather: 70 degrees, hazy sunshine, 0% chance of precipitation
  • TV: Bally Sports Ohio
  • Radio: 700 WLW

News and Notes

Fairchild Goes to Triple-A

The Reds sent Stuart Fairchild to Triple-A Louisville today on a rehab assignment.

Minor League Recap

ICYMI yesterday, a number of Reds prospects will be playing in the Dominican Winter League.

Read about Edwin Arroyo’s big night in his Double-A debut, and other news and notes from the farm.

366 Responses

  1. Melvin

    Didn’t realize Arroyo was up in AA. If he does well he could be pushing the majors next year. Good start. Got to make room for everyone. #EDLCCF2024

    • RedsMonk65

      I am very curious as well. Good young hitter, mostly on the bench this past week. Certainly, a better option than a couple of veterans starting ahead of him. Inquiring minds ….

      Let’s make the playoffs!

    • WCRon

      Why would we not have CES as DH and Tyler catching. So hard to understand. I like Maille but he does not add much offense

  2. Mark Moore

    Where did Scary McGarry wind up this season?

  3. Redgoggles

    Anyone dare give the manager credit for sitting Votto in 2 out of the last 3 games against a LHSP?

    I have to think something is going on with CES.

    • Roger Garrett

      Maybe cause Ty Steve is at DH tonight.If Bell can’t find a place for CES against a lefty well he ain’t playing much the rest of the way cause Joey and Fraley play at first and DH against righties.

      • Redgoggles

        Fraley at first? Maybe you meant Steer.

        CES still has the 3rd most ABs in the past 2 weeks, even with only 6 ABs the last 7 days……which suggests he’s dinged up more than the manager decided to stop playing him.

        I don’t know his splits in the minors against LH pitching, but that could enter in as well.

        I sure hope he’s not hurt.

      • Jim Walker

        CES OPS vs. LH pitching at AAA this year (drum roll) was 1.064 in 96PAs

      • Melvin

        “CES OPS vs. LH pitching at AAA this year (drum roll) was 1.064 in 96PAs”

        Oh is that all. I understand now. 😉

    • Mark Moore

      Definitely give some credit to HDTBell for bucking his “veteran preference” and holding Joey out for a PH opportunity.

  4. Jason Franklin

    Come on man, Bell has to play the washed-up veterans before a promising rookie! What are you thinking?

    • greenmtred

      It might profit you to review the Reds’ lineups for the past 3 months. Hint: Loaded with promising rookies.

      • RedsMonk65

        Yes, that is true, but the absence of CES the majority of this last week — despite all his promise as a rookie — is troubling, to the say the least.

      • Redgoggles

        Ditto. Has there been a (winning) season in which more inexperienced players/rookies have been given opportunities?

        When vets stink = Bell’s loyalty to vets is stupid, play the young guns!
        When rookies rook = Bell’s at fault!
        When starters average 4 innings = Bell’s bullpen usage sucks!
        When starters are (occasionally) left in too long = Bell waited too long!

        Carry on, RLN. Bell is making a late run at NL MOY. I’m here for that thread’s comments.

      • VaRedsFan

        Which veterans haven’t stunk?
        And they are getting the majority of playing time.

        Just like Meyers
        Just like Moose
        Just like Strickland
        Just like Doolittle
        many more.

      • Redgoggles

        The last 3 of your examples haven’t played on this team. Myers was cut, explicitly to allow the youth movement to happen (in part.) Do you realize that Myers has less ABs this year than Jose Berrero?

        Is Fraley, India, TS considered vets yet? I think they’ve all helped.

        Senzel and Newman have actually had their moments as well. Due in no small part to how they’ve been used by the manager, imo.

      • VaRedsFan

        I’ll help….veterans that are on their 2nd contract (post arb) are routinely in Bell’s starting lineups no matter how much they suck.
        Krall has to remove such players or Bell will continue to play them.
        For those relievers…Bell had to use them, but he didn’t have to keep using them in high leverage over and over and over, and over.

      • Redgoggles

        Ok, by that definition there are 2 with over 150 ABs (Newman, Votto) this year.

        Pitchers with over 50 IP this year is only our favorite whipping boy, Luke Weaver.

        Not very many “vets” routinely used by Bell this year. Or available to use, as you rightly put it. He can only use players that Krall gives him to use.

        It’s ironic you mention this on a night (2nd straight) where Bell sits Votto against a LHSP.

        This narrative could have been true last year, but only because all he had was vets that mostly sucked and the young guns weren’t quite ripe yet.

      • VaRedsFan

        And as I noted above, the reason for this is because Krall has to remove such players from the roster, or Bell will continue to “overplay” them.

        Now it’s happening all over again with Bader and Renfroe.
        I hope those 2 help the Reds win tonight. 🙂

      • Redgoggles

        But he hasn’t. Renfro and Bader have the 7th and 11th most ABs in the past 2 weeks.

        And now Votto’s sitting too.

        This narrative simply is untrue this year.

  5. Eddiek957

    Nice preview. Cubs and Snakes we win we gain on somebody

  6. Kevin H

    Okay, I have a feeling Reds are gonna bust out. Bader and Renfro are gonna show why Reds picked them up. Senzel will homer, and De La Cruz will come off bench and hit for cycle.

    Reds 11-4. 😛

    • Mark Moore

      Both of them are playing for a 2024 contract somewhere. One would think that would be incentive enough given they are on a team with at least a puncher’s chance at making the playoffs.

    • Redgoggles

      RLN comments to this happening = DTBell’s usage of Greene was ridiculous! He gave up 2 runs in 7 innings but threw 115 pitches! And, why didn’t Benson bat for Renfro in the 4th when the game was still close?

      I hope it all happens, but mostly the W.

  7. Brian Rutherford

    Good luck to the good guys tonight. Here’s hoping we get some runs for Hunter Greene and put pressure on the other guys.

    Looks like a solid lineup. Go Reds!

  8. Eddiek957

    I like the Bader pick up. This team could use a player with playoff experience

  9. Roger Garrett

    No big deal about CES not playing but if Maile goes down then don’t the Reds lose the DH if Ty Steve has to catch? If true then CES must be dinged up but I do like Ty Steve in the lineup.

  10. J

    I wish I understood why the fans are almost always left to guess or infer things like “why has CES not been playing lately?” The lack of transparency is really annoying. There are times when it’s better for opposing teams not to know a player’s status, but sometimes this organization seems to keep information secret just for the sake of keeping it secret.

    • Mark Moore

      It’s also the idea of “playing short-handed” when we’re fighting for a playoff spot. If he’s dinged up and limited, I get that. But if he’s truly unavailable, then make the move.

    • Redgoggles

      Is there a time that it’s ok to share this with the opposition?

      It’s the reason the NFL has the injury reports, they are forced to disclose it. No one would ever voluntarily do it.

      Keeping it under wraps plays into bullpen management for the opposing team, for example. Don’t take it personally. Feel free to blame the manager.

      • Mark Moore

        My wife didn’t pick up any bacon today (I didn’t ask her to). So now I’m stuck with sausage tomorrow morning for my scramble. I blame HDTBell … 😛

      • Melvin

        Can’t believe he didn’t get the bacon for you. 😉

      • RedsMonk65

        I’m not referring to all that. I am referring to the fact that there are 14 games left in this season, and the Reds are in the midst of a wild-card playoff spot chase. Play your best players, period. And if some players are not available because they are injured, or whatever, then get someone else up here to help rather than play with a short bench. Playing shell games for the opposition is one thing. Being smart in the playoff hunt is another.

    • Jim Walker

      I suspect in these times it very rare that opposing teams lack reliable intelligence about opposition injuries. Players have phones and communicate among themselves unlike the past when opposition players were considered off limits during the season. If one guy knows something, bet it will be around the league very quickly.

  11. Mark Moore

    Well that was uninspiring …

    Anyone know the weather outlook for Saturday and Sunday with Lee bearing down on the NE coast?

  12. RedsGettingBetter

    As usual the Reds was retired in order in the 1st inning… The pitcher has a 5.30 ERA… I can’t understand

      • J

        The top of the order doesn’t force starters to prove they can consistently throw strikes. So, they’re usually retired in order on very few pitches. There is a cause-and-effect here. They aren’t just extraordinarily unlucky and happen to face pitchers who happen to be amazing every first inning.

      • Redgoggles

        The early returns from India at the lead-off looks pretty similar to India’s struggles at the 3/4 spots.

        I support working the count and maybe not only pull swinging in every count? (Regardless of where in the lineup.)

    • J

      No. They swing too much. For example, India swinging at a pitch a foot outside instead of taking it.

      • Kevin H

        I looked at the number of pitches they saw. Point taken with india.

  13. Roger Garrett

    Krall went out and got Bader and Renfroe and why not.Bell will play them and he has so nothing there is surprising.Hope they help us win tonight?

  14. Mark Moore

    Nicely done by Hunter. Very efficient.

    Now let’s back him up.

  15. Melvin

    Glad Renfroe got a hit there. Before that he’s hitting .133/.235/.233 for the Reds. Hope he has a good night. Would rather have CES if available.

  16. Melvin

    Our fundamentals in every aspect of the game are very poor. Discipline/Accountability = more wins = more fun.

    • VaRedsFan

      Is there anybody in charge of those two categories?

  17. Kevin H

    How Dare Bell make Marte get picked off first base. 😛 We have to laugh as this happens alot with this team

    • Mark Moore

      Yep. Rookie mistake there. Didn’t pay enough attention.

      • Kevin H

        Do you notice that more than not? Rookies just not paying enough attention? I would hope they would improve on this.

  18. RedAlert

    Inexcusable Marte , inexcusable

    Worst fundamental baseball team in MLB , BY FAR

  19. RedsGettingBetter

    A lot of pick off outs recently to the Reds, they should fix that asap, that kills rallies…

  20. Roger Garrett

    Marte was to anxious at the plate and to anxious at first.I am sure the coach over there talked to him.

  21. J

    They should put that inning in the Louvre and title it “How Not to Handle a Runners on First and Second with Nobody Out Situation.”

    Swing at the first pitch.
    Get picked off.
    Take strike three.

    A true work of art.

    • BuzzKutter

      A night with the wind howling in and ball not carrying its the perfect way to not play small ball.

    • RedAlert

      And they do it like no other …. Zero
      fundamental baseball with this team is
      unreal … and continues to be tolerated … and will continue to be for at least the next 3 years …..

      • Roger Garrett

        Been that way for a long long time even when we had several veteran players.

    • Redgoggles

      They need a Kangaroo Cloak for these types of situations. Or a dunce cap.

  22. Mark Moore

    Another nice inning from Greene. Great glove by Senzel. No cookies to Alonso.

  23. Roger Garrett

    Greene wants this game and if we can end the comedy show and score some runs he will take it home.

    • BuzzKutter

      The strikeouts on this team are contagious. When this team gets the sickness they get it bad.

  24. Mark Moore

    Bader looked like he was leaning back on that swing. Wonder if that’s the cause of the weak hits.

  25. RedAlert

    He’s pitiful

  26. RedsGettingBetter

    Bader & India chasing swinging .. Maile doesn’t swing at pitches in the zone… so bad offense inning… Peterson became in Glavine or something like that

  27. Roger Garrett

    Maile never swings and India swings at everything.Gone for tonight.This team needs leadership so bad its just mind boggling at times.

  28. Mark Moore

    Lost focus and walked a Mendoza hitter. Cannot do that, Hunter.

    • J

      Yet another Reds pitcher overtaken by a fear of letting an opposing hitter put a ball in play.

      • Redgoggles

        “Overtaken with fear”? A bit dramatic, don’tcha think?

  29. BuzzKutter

    We’re they asleep there? Somebody has to yell stepoff.

  30. Old-school

    Greene better command.

    3 shutout innings on 42 pitches.

  31. Mark Moore

    OK, nice recovery there. Minor jam and no damage done.

    Anybody think to bring Jobu and keep him sober?

  32. Redgoggles

    Hitting the other way against LHP, is a thing of beauty. Wish more would take that approach, especially with 2 strikes.

  33. Beaufort Red

    Like I said Renfroe=Wil Myers 2.0

  34. RedAlert

    6 whiffs already …. Seen better swings on a porch …. Pathetic At bats

  35. Brian Rutherford

    I can’t believe we aren’t getting hits! Someone should tell the coaches and manager to get hits so we can score runs! No accountability whatsoever. You would think they would have told these guys how to hit by now and we would be soring in bunches. All of the other teams score tons of runs. I don’t get it.

    • Melvin

      They can help them with their hitting approach. Just swinging away doing anything you feel like seemingly most of the time doesn’t get it. Situational hitting.

  36. J

    I’ve been told managers can’t possibly make any difference, but if I were managing this team I would not have all the runners just sitting on base waiting for someone to knock them in. I would try some steals, hit-and-runs, and sacrifice bunts. Maybe the passive approach will eventually work, but for the most part it doesn’t seem to be working.

    • Kevin H

      but if they get picked off or caught trying to steal then some get upset about that as well.

      • J

        I’m not concerned about what people get upset about. I’m concerned about trying to score some runs, and the passive approach hasn’t been working very well, and isn’t working well so far tonight. If a more aggressive approach doesn’t work, then abandon it, but when A isn’t working, it’s time to try B.

      • Kevin H

        @J, Oh I agree.

        The Reds have been aggressive though all season and it has cost them. It does seem though lately that approach has slowed down. With a left hander on the mound perhaps they aren’t getting good reads from first?

  37. Old-school

    Hunter Greene folks looks great thru 4

  38. Mark Moore

    Hunter looks sharp and “in it to win it” tonight. Still have to back him, boys.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      He appears to have confidence in his location within the strike zone. When he has that and has good stuff, the team can jump on his back.

  39. Kevin H

    Is game day lieing to me about the strike call that appeared way outside for ball four? to Marte?

  40. Mark Moore

    I’m now paying a heavy price to watch the game tonight. The audio sync is so variable that I’ve had to switch to the straight Bally feed and will deal with Sadak.

    First world problems, right? 😀

    • Melvin

      What kind of meds do you take for that? 🙂

  41. Harry Stoner

    Marte hitting.
    EDLC sitting. (I know it’s a LHP….)

    Marte playing SS

    I hope the message is loud and clear.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      This is compete for your life time, not player development time. EDLC belongs on the bench against lefties. Marte is now hitting .286. He belongs in there everyday, I don’t care where.

      • Harry Stoner

        That’s what I know, Tom.

        It’s been fun to watch Marte slowly develop. He looked a bit overmatched at first in MLB but he is making clear progress at the plate.

    • Melvin

      Arroyo made is AA debut last night and did well. if he’s the best SS in the system somethings got to give. Did I mention #EDLCCF2024? 😉

      • Harry Stoner

        The young man needs to improve his approach at the plate.

        You can’t take your eyes off him on the basepaths.

        You’ve got to avert your eyes when he’s at bat.

  42. Mark Moore

    I’m noticing a high variability in the zone tonight. Fortunately, it appears to be cutting both ways so far. Still, yet another Chumpire making the case for some kind of robo-assist zone. It’s way past time.

  43. Harry Stoner

    Move Friedl out of that lucky #9 spot and he’s lost….;-)

  44. Mark Moore

    That’s the kind of heads up aggressive running we need from Marte.

    One job here for Maile.

  45. Old-school

    what a sequence from the Keystone Mets….or cops

  46. RedAlert

    That was HORRIBLE !!!’ These guys have no clue

  47. Mark Moore

    OK, at least Sadak is making me laugh with his hyper calling of that play and score. I guess that’s small compensation to listen to him use up his HUGE box of words for the game.

    • VaRedsFan

      I got the Mets crew, which I consider one of the best.
      Keith Hernandez is great IMO.

      • VaRedsFan

        Check that, it’s Darling tonight who is equally as great.

      • Mark Moore

        Maybe I should switch to that feed instead then. I’m already developing a minor pre-headache from Sadak. He’s calling it like a minor-league radio announcer.

    • Redgoggles

      “TOUGH PLAY UP THE MIDDLE!” Marte fields, holds for 3 seconds and throws the guy out by 2 steps. He’s a bit excitable. Kind of like Joe used to be, but much less endearing.

      Nice recovery by Hunter. Also, thank you Met’s D.

  48. Harry Stoner

    Reds K rate is appalling.

    A full barbecue of Stubbs.

    • Mark Moore

      Is that an official plural, like a “murder of crows”? I like it 😀

      +1,000 for you, Harry.

    • Mark Moore

      I’m afraid we’ll miss him until ST 2024.

  49. Mark Moore

    As good as India looked his first game back, he’s looking that bad tonight. Wild swinging and very low pitch recognition/anticipation.

    But we got Hunter one run and he’s doing his job so far.

  50. RedAlert

    9 Ks in 5 innings ….. double digits coming again ….. none of em have a plan at the plate , none of em … the lack of plate discipline is embarrassing … hitting coach ain’t getting it done

  51. RedsGettingBetter

    Really bad offense game by India. I don’t know what happens to Maile. He had hit solid until July but since he’s looked horrible…

  52. Mark Moore

    That pesky no-no chance is done. Now focus on the batters.

  53. Indy Red Man

    9Ks thru 5 vs a scrub. They really don’t deserve it. Bell definitely doesn’t deserve if he thinks this lineup wouldn’t be better with CES in it. He better be dinged up? Maile hasn’t hit since early August, but he plays every 3rd game like clockwork anyway. Former Angels both suck and I’m ready to dump India & Votto for good. Other then that….lol

    • Mark Moore

      Right … other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

    • Harry Stoner

      You’d think India could look around and read the writing on the wall with all the IF prospects pushing to take his spot.

      I like the guy, but am now totally comfortable with moving him this Winter.

      He’s a smart fellow, he probably wouldn’t mind it, either.

      • Mark Moore

        You would think. And maybe he’s happier moving and somehow that plays into his mindset. Or maybe he’s just pressing like the rest of the guys.

    • VaRedsFan

      Maile plays every other game…it seems.

  54. Kevin H

    Reds gonna break through this inning.

  55. Melvin

    Marte is not playing a bad SS big frame or not.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      His first game I remember he had some bad throws, but that can be explained. Since then, he’s been golden.

  56. Mark Moore

    More damage avoided. Really need some add-on now to support Hunter’s stellar effort.

    And I did just switch to the Metropolitans feed. We’ll see how that goes.

  57. Mark Moore

    Lindor with another missed opportunity.

    • Mark Moore

      +5,000 for you, Kevin.

      Equal credit and blame to HDTBell as well 😛

  58. Mark Moore

    That was a quick turn of events. Way to go Spencer!!

  59. JB

    Steer is one strong dude. MVP of the team.

    • Mark Moore

      He’ll get RoY votes for certain.

    • RedAlert

      Man dude can play anywhere and can hit to boot … I agree with that also JB

  60. Harry Stoner

    When the Reds traded for Steer last year, there were Twins fans bemoaning the deal on TwitterX and MLB blogs, particularly noting his rapid harnessing of some power.

    We’re seeing it.

    I liked Tyler Mahle, but Williamson and Phillips development is just as much fun to watch.

    We could be looking at 25 rookie year dingers for Steer.

    Reminds me a bit of Sabo.

  61. Redgoggles

    Anyone else get some young Barry Larkin vibe with Marte? If he can have half the career as BL, that’d be ok with me.

    • Harry Stoner

      Message to Krall: Don’t even THINK about trading Marte this Winter.

      The young man might wind up out producing both CES and EDLC.

  62. RedAlert

    Marte got a chance to be real good also … showing me something

  63. Beaufort Red

    Marte is ahead of EDLC as a hitter. Just puts wood on the ball. Better plate discipline.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      No question. EDLC has a lot of work to do on all aspects of his game.

    • Indy Red Man

      Have yet to see Marte hit a mistake 450 ft though or steal every base.

      • Beaufort Red

        You’re gonna cherry pick 2 instances for your argument? That’s rich

    • Kevin H

      I saw where De La Cruz is like 1-20. Lets hope he can get out of the funk soon. All players go through it, and I am glad Marte is showing he can hit, as he took abit to get going.

      His defense at 3rd is better than ss, that being De La Cruz. Read that today.

    • Harry Stoner

      Totally agree, BR.

      He started off slow and now is coming on.

      Just putting wood on the ball.

      He and EDLC are good buds, apparently.

      I hope they are talking hitting. If not now, then over the winter.

  64. Tom Mitsoff

    Benson now should hit here for Bader with the pitching change.

    • Mark Moore

      But will that happen? Full credit to HDTBell if he makes the move. There … I’m on records 😉

      • Tom Mitsoff

        Nope. That seemed like a no-brainer to me. Friedl to center defensively.

  65. Ron

    1 Never have 2 catchers in the starting lineup.
    2 Bader and Renfroe should never be in any starting lineup. PUT YOUR BEST TEAM ON THE FIELD.

    Thoughts for the future:
    1 Take a hard look at fundamentals being taught in the minor leagues. Rookies should know how to run the bases before they reach the majors. Rookies should know basic fundamentals of the game period. Too many pick offs, etc.
    4 Beginning next year, give players one position. Too much shuffling. I would move Elly to the outfield. Could cover a lot of ground and has strong arm. Go with infield of Marte 3B, McLain SS, Steer 2B, CES 1B. India (if still a Red) could DH.

    Reds up 3-0. Life is good.

  66. Indy Red Man

    I’d have a sit down with Senzel after the season. We’d like you back as a utility/platoon vs lefties, but we’re going to pinch hit for you vs righties every chance we get. In or out? If you think you can start somewhere then hasta la vista

    • Mark Moore

      Fair assessment. I think keeping him at 3B only and new scenery would be very beneficial to him. He’s not going to get the kind of coaching he needs to adjust with our Reds. And that’s fine by me. Glut of players behind him anyway.

  67. Mark Moore

    Good thing Benson still getting bench time. We ran the risk of playing add-on.

    • Mark Moore

      And that is most definitely on one HDTBell. Even Kevin H will admit that.

      • Kevin H

        +10000 Yep, why not do what you do and pitch hit. its hard not to grumble for sure.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      The thinking has to be that with a three-run lead, defense trumps offense.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        I don’t think Bell is the greatest manager ever, but he sure isn’t the moron many folks like to believe. If the Reds win this game and hold the Mets to two or less, then prioritizing defense would have turned out to be the right move in retrospect.

      • Harry Stoner

        It’s still the 6th inning…..

        There’s some runs still needed.

    • Harry Stoner

      Bell has Benson penciled in for the 14th inning, just in case.

    • Kevin H

      HAHAHA, I thought same thing when he didn’t pitch hit.

  68. Harry Stoner

    Crucial inning for Greene.

    If there’s a “3rd time through the lineup” hex, Greene has suffered through it.

    Would be great to see him master that now.

    • Mark Moore

      He can warm up on Narvaez hitting below .200

  69. old-school

    Hunter Greene could give this pitching staff and team a HUGE playoff lift. Let’s go!!!!!

  70. Kevin H

    Greene throwing his change up more today and Slider?

    • Mark Moore

      I think so. Mets team is saying he has the “eye of the tiger” tonight.

      • JB

        That’s Ron Darling calling the Mets games.

      • Mark Moore

        I thought that was Darling. He’s gotten better over the years.

  71. Mark Moore

    Closer to Bike Helmets than I would have expected. Nice job by Marte.

  72. Tom Mitsoff

    And now you have Pete Alonso as the tying run.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Agreed. It’s the right move.

    • VaRedsFan

      That didn’t age well.
      There was a base open though

      Bell gave him some rope though.
      I hope it doesn’t deter him in the future for doing it again.

    • Redgoggles

      I agree. Right call, wrong result.

      Similar to Ashcraft earlier, these young guns need to figure it out. Getting closer!

  73. RedsMonk65

    Inspiring outing by Greene (and battery-mate Maile).

    Steer Reds’ ROY thus far.

    Marte showing extreme promise.

    Still wondering … where is CES?

    • RedsMonk65

      Except…for that last pitch by Hunter. Darn Pete Alonso!

  74. Jeremiah

    Random stat, but TJ Friedl is batting .349 vs. lefties with a .404 obp. Do the Reds coaching staff know this? It’s hard to believe they bat him 7th, 8th vs. lefties. Just very strange.

    • JB

      He is number One lefty hitting lefties in baseball

      • Melvin

        Not legit enough for Bell I guess. smh

  75. Mark Moore

    No cookies here, please. And having Sims come in doesn’t really inspire a lot of confidence for me.

    WOW!!! HDTBell leaves Hunter in to face Alonso. Show him the good stuff, HG!

    • Ted Alfred

      Had a bad feeling about it. That’s the perfect spot for Sims. Hunter has given up so many home runs, I just didn’t like taking that chance with that hitter in that spot. Plus he was just under 100 pitches…oh well

  76. Harry Stoner

    Greene doesn’t meet the challenge.

  77. Jeremiah

    Oh man Pete Alonso that’s a cold blow there! Man well that’s just too bad. Reds going to have to try to eke this one out. That guy is a stud. Maybe should have tried to pitch around in hindsight.

  78. Kevin H

    Darn, Well stuff happens I suppose. I like the idea of Green facing Alonso there.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I agree. It was the right move the way he pitched tonight.

  79. Doc

    Home runs haunt, with or without walks.

    • Melvin

      They haunt less without walks. 😉

  80. Tom Mitsoff

    What a darn shame. Good hitter beats good pitcher.

    • RedAlert

      Great effort nonetheless by Green

      • Tom Mitsoff

        Absolutely. That was a moment of a great pitcher against a great hitter, and sometimes hitters win those matchups. I don’t think it was a hanger.

    • Kevin H

      I agree, I liked Greene’s pitching performance tonight though. Sure 1 pitch cost him, however he showed he can step up in a big game.

  81. RedAlert

    Never fails never – can’t stand prosperity – why even give that guy ANYTHING to hit ….. only dude you know can beat you in that lineup

    • JB

      Greene missed the target. Was suppose to be inside . Threw it right over the middle.

  82. Indy Red Man

    Why? Why do we always let their best guy beat us up? It’s not like he’s in Atlanta’s lineup. That’s just dumb baseball. If he loses him nibbling then go to your pen with the next guy

    • Mark Moore

      Yep. Just don’t offer him a cookie. He’ll crush it almost every time.

  83. Mark A Verticchio

    You had to pitch around him there, period.

    • Stoney

      100 percent agree. The ONLY guy that can hurt you on this team.

  84. LT

    Zero zero game again. That’s not street smart pitching from HG. There’s no reason Pete see any pitch in the strike zone in that situation.

    • RedAlert

      Totally agree … can’t let that guy beat you there …

  85. Mark A Verticchio

    Here is where staring Maile hurts again. He is not hitting and you pinch hit you lose the DH.

  86. VaRedsFan

    Lost in the home run hit excitement is that the hit before the homer went directly under Steer’s glove. Inning should have been over

    • Mark Moore

      Very true. How long has it been since Steer manned 1B?

  87. Jeremiah

    I think I’d still let Greene pitch to McNeil there. Are the Reds worried about his pitch count? Maybe, but sometimes Bell makes moves that I think would annoy me as a player. Ok I gave up the 3 run bomb to tie the game. Let me be a man and finish out the inning in another 3-4 pitches hopefully. If you don’t get Mcneil then I’d understand going to the pen. But now you’re walking off the field feeling a little defeated. Plus going 6 innings just has a better feel than 5 2/3 innings. I don’t mean to nitpick but just some thoughts. Some of this new coaching of taking a guy before they get through the lineup a 3rd time, or as soon as they start to struggle it’s just kind of wimpy I think. Maybe that’s old school non-analytical thinking from me though!

  88. Mark Moore

    Adding to my bedtime books from last year (“Mr. Mahle Won’t Throw Strikes”) …

    “Pete Gets a Cookie”

  89. Harry Stoner

    I know folks keep harping on it, but Green needs another pitch.

  90. Jeremiah

    India picking up the Reds! I was ready to bench India if he struck out for a 4th time!

  91. Kevin H

    I can’t type what I just said after a two run homer by India. LOL it started with a F.. and followed by a Yeah!!

  92. Indy Red Man

    Good effort from HG, but he’s got a bad tendency to give up bombs with men on. 15 now this year and I bet atleast 9-10 with men on

    • Mark Moore

      It was Pete Alonso and he tossed him a cookie.

    • VaRedsFan

      Maybe you missed his previous 17 straight scoreless innings?

  93. Mark Moore

    India with a little redemption shot!!!

    • LT

      Maile took one for the team and India made ‘em pay.

  94. Melvin

    India puts us back in the lead! 🙂

  95. Ted Alfred

    So following that absolutely humongous home run from Jonathan India the question is this: will David Bell leave him at leadoff the rest of the year or can he not help himself?? It’s really obvious he is super comfortable hitting leadoff and the team draws great energy with him hitting there…..this should not be a question in David Bell’s mind in any way.

    • Harry Stoner

      You’re kidding, right?

      Trying to divine or propose some clarity and sanity on Bell’s decision making?

  96. Harry Stoner

    Every game is a twin bill for the Reds.

    Innings 1-5, then 6-9.

  97. old-school

    Im not sure i can handle playoff baseball?
    Its been awhile

  98. Kevin H

    So no pitch hitting tonight. well okay. LOL

  99. RedBB

    David Bell is a F’ing MORON. If we lose it’s 100% on him and his stupidity

  100. old-school

    Anyone checking on Dennis????

    Tums or nitro or something

  101. RedsMonk65

    India to the rescue! Remember when many wanted to trade him?

    • Harry Stoner

      Trading him might still make sense.

      Doesn’t mean I’m not happy to see him knock one out tonight.

      • RedsMonk65

        I agree — but offseason. Not during.

    • JB

      Haha same ones who wanted Stephenson gone.

      • Melvin

        The feelings for India and Stephenson are fluid. 😉

    • Redgoggles

      Like 2 innings ago, lol?

      Put the man at cleanup! /s

      Let’s see what happens when Bell brings a reliever back for his 2nd inning. Generally not a fan of the move.

  102. Jeremiah

    Did India change his batting stance a little? Looks different to me.

  103. Harry Stoner

    The Renfro-Bader thing isn’t happening for me.

    I can understand The Bull’s impetus for picking them up, but it isn’t working.

    I’m no huge fan of the RLN over-hyped Fairchild, but he’s likely to be an improvement over either of these two upon return from Louisville.

    • VaRedsFan

      They are supposed to be spot starter…pinch hitting/runners….defensive guys….not get majority starts.

      • Redgoggles

        I posted this earlier, but Renfro and Bader have the 7th and 11th most ABs in the past couple of weeks.

        He’s playing them against LHSP, primarily because he has no better hitting options.

    • Melvin

      Bader should be used as Farichild should. That is as a pinch runner defensive replacement but Bell won’t do it.

  104. Tom Mitsoff

    Curious to see if Maile will stay in after getting hit flush on the hand.

  105. RedsGettingBetter

    Nice recovery from India after 3 horrible Ks. He is the hero so far…
    the playing time for Renfroe should be in jeopardy right now…

  106. Harry Stoner

    Nice to see Sims getting into that Cincinnati BB groove….

  107. Mark

    Bader and Renfroe need to go replaced with 2of these 3 Hurtebeise Vosler or Reynolds

    • VaRedsFan

      Vosler and Reynolds are right where they should be.

      • Jeremiah

        Vosler carried the Reds for a few games in that first week of the season I remember! He’ll get a ring right if the Reds win it all!?

    • Harry Stoner

      If MLB is serious about shortening game times, they should just automatically award a walk to the first batter against any Reds reliever.

      Will carve 5 minutes or so off game length.

  108. RedAlert

    Throw the ball over the plate SIMS !!!
    Unbelievable dude …… just got 2 run lead and walk leadoff AGAIN !!!!!!

    • RedAlert

      Sims act is just old …. Awful / get this guy out the freaking game

    • Harry Stoner

      You’re being unreasonable.

      Sims walks the first TWO batters he faces.

      Reds relievers consistently enter games unprepared to pitch.

      Why isn’t this a topic of conversation, debate, attention, debate, within the organization?

      • Redgoggles

        Actually he got the 1st guy he faced, in the 6th. Many criticize Bell for not bringing relievers back for the second inning, but the Cowboy and LeCure (both relievers) have been on record as saying its difficult to get the juices flowing again after sitting.

  109. Old-school

    Sims doesnt have it. Jekyll/hyde
    He is bad

  110. Mark Moore

    And Sims is being Sims tonight, even with a clean inning to start.

  111. LarkinPhillips

    Sims this year has proven that he can not come back out for the 2nd inning. Getting warm more than once is very hard on him.

  112. Kevin H

    Interesting stat on. Last 30 days in regards to the main bullpen guys, only Young and Law have struggled. everyone else solid.

    Still walking two guys doesn’t cut it

    • Harry Stoner


      It’s a race for a playoff spot.

      The last 30 games mean diddley squat.

      Bring you game or stay home.

      That ought to have been a complete embarassment for Sims.

      • Kevin H

        I get your point, and I am sure he wasn’t happy with the results.

      • Harry Stoner

        “Not being happy” is pandering.

        It’s MLB.

        He’s responsible for “the results”.

        Poor pitching didn’t happen to Sims….he pitched poorly.

        Time for these guys to get their act together.

        A good sign that Bell or Johnson is yanking them.

        Pathetic performance in a crucial game at a crucial time of the year.

        Sims needs to get his act together and get his head in the game.

  113. Harry Stoner

    At least, or hopefully, Sims is being embarassed by the quick hook.

    It’s MLB, dude, in a race for the playoffs.

    Bring your game, or stay home.

  114. Indy Red Man

    It’s amazing that a team can be over .500 this late and literally never win a laugher

  115. J

    Earlier today I was saying I’d rather see opposing players putting 2-0 pitches in play when they face Reds’ relievers, because hitters who take pitches against Reds relievers will reach base. I stand by that.

  116. Melvin

    Good play by Marte. Don’t necessarily like the backhand but got the job done. Big play.

  117. RedAlert

    Way to bail Sims out Gibaut … nice work !

  118. J

    The Ian Gibaut Fan Club is back in business.

      • Mark Moore

        He’s got UK roots I believe. Pitched for them in the WBC.

  119. RedsGettingBetter

    Well , when is not the night of Sims, it is for Gibaut! Great job… I think Moll is going to pitch in the 8th as the hitters are Nimmo, Lindor and Stewart…Cruz should be ready too for Alonso just in case…

  120. Stoney

    Thank you Gibaut! Cleaned up another Sims mess.

    • RedsGettingBetter

      He apparently can hit at the major level, Tom … 2024 will be funny too…

  121. Harry Stoner

    Marte slowly and steadily showing how it’s done for a rookie hitter.

    Krall: don’t trade this guy.

    Prediction is that he out performs EDLC over time.

  122. Melvin

    Marte showing his all around game tonight.

    • Harry Stoner

      Traded Sonny Gray for the vato.

      He better be hitting….;-)

    • Beaufort Red

      Yeah but I was told he wasn’t the fastest man on earth, hit a mistake 600 feet and steal 4 bases. It’s true

      • JB

        You can hit it 600 feet but it still only counts as 1 run.

  123. Redgoggles

    I’m thinking there is some connection with India and Alonso, did they play together in college?

    India to Alonso, nice shot. Hold my beer. Also, thanks for beating the D-backs.

  124. Doc

    Noelvi Marte…name sounds familiar…didn’t I read on RLN a bunch on notes of people who wanted him sent back down? Something about not being ready…over matched…

    • VaRedsFan

      You’ve read that about every Reds player.
      Most comments are based on their last AB or inning pitched.

    • Harry Stoner

      That was LDS when he was in one of his moods.

      He’s probably complaining that Bell won’t play him tomorrow.

      Marte was looking often overmatched when he first came up.

      That was pretty clear.

      It was also clear that his eye, or his discipline was in play.

      An eye and a discipline EDLC has not demonstrated consistently yet.

      Watching Marte develop as a hitter is a real pleasure.

      Inveterate complainer or cynical cranks can sow their narcissistic oats,
      but a deeper look at Marte shows coming to terms and adjusting to MLB pitching.

      Amidst all the melodrama of the Reds’ season and RLN Greek Chorus, seeing this unfold has been a pleasure.

  125. Melvin

    If we get picked off again tonight I just might……

  126. Mark Moore

    Phish have come back strong against the Bravos. So that’s not working for us tonight.

  127. old-school

    Need 6 outs. Sounds simple but isnt.

  128. Mark Moore

    Thanks, Bader. That AB was perfect.

    • Kevin H

      Since I can’t, maybe you can explain the logic. All year we have seen the pitch hit game. Tonight, well we see nothing of the kind. Here I go complaining again. 😀

      • VaRedsFan

        Defensive purposes now with a lead and it being late.

      • Mark Moore

        Have a couple of those dark side cookies I offered up earlier. There is ZERO explanation for this when you are facing down a playoff run. His most ardent defenders are scratching their heads at the change in approach.

      • Kevin H

        @VaRedsFan, Still we have seen Bell pitch hit for a player who has went 2-2 and a homerun as a example. I would think playing add one would be a strategy as well?

  129. RedAlert

    Renfroe and Bader should not be in a single starting lineup during this playoff push …
    absolutely no excuse for them to be …
    No help from either one

  130. Melvin

    It’s just ?????? How many times we walk leadoff hitters.

    • Melvin

      They score on average between 22 and 34 percent of the time.

    • Kevin H

      I can’t take the playoff games LOL,, 😛

  131. J

    Even the president of the Ian Gibaut Fan Club isn’t sure why Moll isn’t in the game.

    • Kevin H

      LMAO, literally busted out laughing

      • J

        Every now and then I manage to say something funny. That was today’s.

  132. VaRedsFan

    Braves vomited up the lead and the Marlins won.

  133. VaRedsFan

    Diaz for 5 outs.
    This could get hairy.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      They weren’t going to use Moll to face Alonso. But maybe in the ninth. I’m not sure the lefty-righty matchups for the Mets next inning.

    • RedsGettingBetter

      He pitched the last two days but not more than 10 pitches each game…I think he was going to be available….

  134. Rick

    Quick out, low pitch count for hopefully the 3rd out.

  135. Rick

    Late tuning in, is CES hurting from that HBP to his hand last week?

      • Rick

        Got it, I forgot about that disclaimer. Lol

    • Kevin H

      Very good point as it seems he hasn’t played much since.

      • Rick

        It looked like a nasty hbp at that time. I thought utt oh:(

  136. JB

    Have they said why some players don’t have their names on their uniforms?

      • JB

        I know that with the number. But why don’t some have names and others do?

      • JB

        Nevermind I see now. The Mets announcers couldn’t figure it out and I see why.

  137. Tom Mitsoff

    Mets batters in the ninth: switch-hitter, lefty, righty, lefty. Possible insertion points for Moll if Diaz pitch count gets high.

  138. Tom Mitsoff

    All is well with the world. 🙂

  139. Jeremiah

    Reds, DBacks, Giants maybe 1.5 behind Baby Bears if Dbacks win too. Nice win Reds. Would be really interesting if the 5th spot comes into play too if these teams along with Marlins keep winning.

  140. Mark Moore

    5-out save to make a great start to this leg of the series.

    Now up to the Snakes and Stupid Cubs to beat up on each other (hoping the Stupid Cubs Cub to the max).

    Enjoyed the NYM broadcast team.

    • Rick

      Yes, and Diaz didn’t run up his pitch count.

      • Mark Moore

        22 total pitches. I’d say that’s pretty efficient covering 5 outs.

  141. Rick

    Now I will go back and watch my dvr’d game that I missed, but with a smile:)

  142. RedsMonk65

    Great win. Marte SS of the future?

    • Mark Moore

      Probably not. We have several who are better. But it is nice to see him play there and succeed. I still want to see MattyMc back there. I think he’s the answer for the next several years.

      • Rick

        Matt is our best one. I’m guessing that he gets bumped over to 2nd if India gets traded.
        Elly looks best at 3rd base, but CF would probably best suite all parties and if Elly does not get his offensive game fixed any time near term, that would work best in CF with his crazy athletism and cannon. Retain India, MM at SS, Marte to 3rd.

      • TR

        Unless either Senzel and/or India are traded in the off-season, I see a backup of rookies in the infield. The best position for Elly, in my opinion, is centerfield with his speed and strong arm.

    • Rick

      I wonder about McLain. Early on he told Jim Day(paraphrasing) that he would not be happy about being moved over to 2nd, said it would have to make sense to him. Elly had just been called up & was playing 3rd. He didn’t play with Marte much if any in the minors, he had chemistry with Elly and may be more flexible to accommodate him. Time will tell. Smoozing time by Krall if they move India to permanently install Mat at 2nd.

  143. JB

    Giants getting no hitted but winning 1-0

  144. Doc

    77 wins and counting.
    Winning record in September thus far.
    So far, the teams we need to lose appear to be winning, but there is still time.

  145. VaRedsFan

    Giants being no hit…
    But lead 1-0.

    At Coors of all places.

  146. Mark Moore

    Twinkies winning late. That’s a good thing for when we visit them. They may be just going through the motions if we’re lucky.

  147. Harry Stoner

    Reds rebuilding a culture and expectation of winning that had disappeared in August.

    I hope there’s enough time to let it play out.

    I’m not expecting much from the playoffs, but it would sure be fun to get there and give the team a taste of 2024 goals.

    • Rick

      Yeah, a progression step to make the next appearance less daunting. Get the stage fright out of the way this season.