The Cincinnati Reds got their road trip started out right on Tuesday night, picking up a 6-5 extra-innings victory. Cincinnati will look for another win this evening which would guarantee them a series win. Detroit will try to even the series up as the Tigers hope to impress some local dogs on their final Bark in the Park night. First pitch is set for 6:40pm ET.

Starting Lineups

Cincinnati Reds

Detroit Tigers

Jonathan India – 2B Zach McKinstry – SS
Nick Senzel – 3B Matt Vierling – 3B
Spencer Steer – RF Spencer Torkelson – 1B
Hunter Renfroe – DH Kerry Carpenter – RF
Christian Encarnacion-Strand – 1B Andy Ibanez – 2B
Harrison Bader – CF Miguel Cabrera – DH
Noelvi Marte – SS Parker Meadows – CF
TJ Friedl – LF Carson Kelly – C
Luke Maile – C Akil Baddoo – LF
Connor Phillips – RHP Eduardo Rodriguez – LHP

Starting Pitchers

Connor Phillips 4.2 9.64 1.71 2 7
Eduardo Rodriguez 130.1 3.18 1.13 37 127
Links: Connor Phillips’ Stats | Eduardo Rodriguez’s Stats

Connor Phillips

In his first start he allowed five runs in 4.2 innings. All five runs came on homers – he allowed two of them – against the Seattle Mariners. Phillips struck out seven batters and had two walks in his debut.

The splits aren’t entirely useless, but they aren’t all that useful at this point either. He made 14 starts in Double-A, all of which came with a pre-tacked baseball that gave pitchers an advantage they wouldn’t have in other leagues. He made 11 starts in Triple-A before making his big league debut eight days ago. The range of the types of hitters he’s faced isn’t the same as in the big leagues that he’ll be facing. With that all said, the splits in the minors and his first big league appearance weren’t all that different. Righties had an OPS 20 points higher than lefties did against him.

Splits (MiLB & MLB)

RHH 253 53 10 0 8 24 86 .239 .328 .392
LHH 231 44 11 1 4 35 75 .226 .346 .354

Pitch Usage

4-seam Curve Slider Change
Velo 96.1 82.4 84.5 89.6
Usage 62% 15% 20% 4%

Eduardo Rodriguez

A target of many teams at the trade deadline, Eduardo Rodriguez opted to remain in Detroit and he’s continued to pitch well since the deadline passed. He did have a bit of a struggle in his last outing where he walked four batters with four strikeouts in 6.0 innings against the Yankees.

When it comes down to his splits, they are pretty big. The lefty is dominant against left-handed hitting. They’ve managed just a .495 OPS against him, don’t walk much, and strike out often. Right-handed hitters are nearly 200 points better when it comes to OPS, but that doesn’t mean that they are all that good. They don’t hit for average, don’t walk much, and they don’t hit for much power – they just do all of those things better than lefties have.


RHH 413 93 17 1 10 28 94 .247 .300 .377
LHH 115 17 5 0 2 9 33 .162 .228 .267

Pitch Usage

4-seam 2-seam Cutter Slider Change
Velo 92.4 92.4 89.0 84.8 85.9
Usage 44% 10% 20% 7% 19%

When and Where

  • Game time: 6:40pm ET
  • Where: Comerica Park
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio, (out of market)
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 66°, cloudy, 5% chance of rain

News and Notes

Andrew Abbott pushed to Saturday

On normal rest, today would be Andrew Abbott’s day to start, but we knew that he wouldn’t be making the start as of a few days ago. This afternoon Gordon Wittenmyer of the Cincinnati Enquirer reported that Abbott would get back on the mound on Saturday in New York against the Mets. There is no word on who will start on Thursday – it’s listed as TBA.

Wild Card Standings

Team W L GB Playoff Odds
Philadelphia 79 66 +3.5 97.1%
Chicago 78 68 +2.0 84.8%
Arizona 76 70 0.0 45.6%
Cincinnati 75 71 1.0 23.0%
San Francisco 74 71 1.5 32.4%
Miami 74 71 1.5 17.4%
Playoff Odds via Fangraphs | Top 3 Make Playoffs

Division Standings

Team W L GB Playoff Odds
Brewers 81 63 0.0 99.7%
Cubs 78 68 4.0 84.8%
Reds 75 71 7.0 23.0%
Pirates 67 78 14.5 0.0%
Cardinals 64 81 17.5 0.0%
Playoff Odds via Fangraphs

353 Responses

  1. Indy Red Man

    Cubs are down 4 late & floundering with 3 in Arizona coming up. SF is down too. It’s there for the Reds if they take care of business

  2. BuzzKutter

    Right now the playoff door is opening. I win tonight will be a giant step towards that goal. I nice easy win would sure be nice.

    • Chris

      Indians just gave up a 3 run bomb to the Giants in the 8th. Tie game.

      • J

        I’ve been semi-watching this game. A while ago, when Cleveland was ahead 5-1, they got a leadoff hitter to second, and the TV guys were complaining when the next hitter squared bunt. (“Don’t bunt! The score is 5-1! You gotta try to get a hit here and drive him in!”) He eventually hit a grounder to short, and the runner remained at second. Next guy singled, but the guy at second could only get to third, where he was eventually stranded. Skip ahead to the 9th inning, and now the score is 5-5. This idea that “bunting is never a good strategy” is really driving me nuts. Sometimes it’s the best strategy.

      • BuzzKutter

        Or if Kwan is stealing there he scores on that.

      • AllTheHype

        @J, I went thru gameday to try to find the inning of the situation you mentioned, can’t find it.

        But hypothetically speaking, what score changes your mind on trading an out for a base in that situation? 6-1? 7-1? 8-1? Surely there is a run differential which would make you change your mind on that?

        Personally @ 5-1 down, runner on 2nd, no outs, I am not trading an out for a base.

      • J


        Cleveland was ahead 5-1, not down. It was the top of the 5th, on the road, they’re ahead 5-1, leadoff double. I think that’s a situation where you should be willing to give up an out. I don’t have any definite set rules for this (and obviously it depends who’s at the plate and who’s up next), but that one seemed like a no-brainer to me. Try to be ahead 6-1 in the fifth inning. Then maybe you don’t lose 6-5 in the 10th inning.

      • AllTheHype

        I thought it was SF with the double. But anyway, easy to say that in hindsight, knowing what the final score is. I would never bunt there, for either side. There are strategic instances when you sacrifice an out, very few rarely though.

      • AllTheHype

        I think it’s telling that SF, even with the score tied in the 10th and runner on 2nd, didn’t not sacrifice an out. They’d rather have 3 outs to play with, than 2, even though first of those 2 might be with runner on third.

        As it turns out, they had runner on third with 0 outs anyway. Now they have 2 cracks with runner on third and still a third out to play with.

        MLB managers have moved away from sacrificing outs, for good reason.

      • J

        It wasn’t hindsight. At the time I thought it was stupid not to try to advance that guy to third and give yourself a chance to score a run without another hit. And it would have scored a run if the next guy had done exactly what he did, but with a runner on third.

        I understand as a general policy bunting isn’t a good idea, but there are times when it makes sense, and that was one of them.

      • AllTheHype

        I would disagree that it would ever make sense to bunt up 5-1, unless it was pre-DH days when pitchers hit.

      • Chris

        No manager would ever have a hitter bunt up 5 to 1, nor down 5 to 1. That’s just crazy.

  3. Grand Salami

    Knowing that the stupid Cubbies lost, I think we play very hard.

  4. LDS

    EDLC and Votto both on the bench? Amazing – two thumbs up for Bell on this

    • Mark Moore


      Good call by HDTBell. And they are both available later if needed. But the construct of the line-up is about as good as this roster can muster. Hoping Marte can manage SS well tonight. I know it isn’t his best position.

      • Chris

        I think it’s Marte’s best position and the one he has played almost his whole career.

      • Mark Moore

        Chris – I asked that of Doug when he first came up. Doug noted he’d rank behind MattyMc and EDLC and was less of a defensive liability at 3B (and a non-option at 2B).

        Remains to be seen what happens tonight.

      • Chris

        Mark, I would agree that he’s a drop off from McLain or EDLC, but he didn’t start playing 3rd base until last season. Based on his minor league career, he’s had a tiny bit higher fielding pct at SS. That said, I would think that Marte feels much more at home playing SS. Is he our best option there? Probably not. I hope he does well.

    • Melvin

      Kind of wish Stephenson was playing and don’t understand Bader hitting above Marte and Friedl but oh well. As always hope it works.

      • Mark Moore

        But now Ty can play tomorrow in the day game. So there’s your pattern. Actual performance doesn’t factor into the decision at all.

      • Melvin

        Mark – Stephenson set out of the starting lineup two of three of the last series.

    • old-school

      Detroit pitcher is a tough lefty. Dodgers traded for him at the deadline and he refused invoking his no trade clause. Elly cant hit lefties and Votto cant hit good lefties. Yes, he hit a homer against a terrible lefty from Colorado first game or so and St Louis the other day. This isnt a AAAA lefty. It’s an All star.

    • LDS

      I was so stunned that Votto & EDLC wasn’t starting that I didn’t notice Stephenson wasn’t playing. There goes my giving Bell a break. I

  5. Mark Moore

    Oh, and go Metros, go Bernies, go Bravos, go Guardrails!!!

    I need to go gargle. I threw up a little bit in the back of my mouth just typing that.

    • Old-school

      You mean you and I didnt predict this back in March.

      Hey….go METS and Guardians and brewers. Ill take any scenario where the Reds are in it.

  6. Eddiek957

    IMHO whether we make the playoffs or not that we are even talking postseason is amazing. A starting rotation pieced together the entire season. I’ve been a baseball fan for over sixty years and I have never seen a team so unpredictable with their starting rotation play to this team’s level. Amazing GO REDS

    • AllTheHype

      Bell has done a pretty stellar job handling the pitching staff, all year. One of his strengths for sure.

      • J

        Just curious — can you explain how Bell’s handling of Weaver fits into this?

      • Chris

        J, that’s ridiculous. Who else did Bell have to pitch besides Weaver? He can only use the guys that he has. I have issues with Bell too, but sometimes people just make stuff up to bash him.

      • J

        Chris, would you have sent Weaver to the mound every fifth day? Not tried doing a bullpen day, not try an opener, not try to develop another starter — just keep sending Weaver out every five days so he could pitch a few bad innings? Seriously? I wouldn’t have. Even if Krall absolutely refused to bring up anyone from the minors to replace him, I wouldn’t have allowed that nonsense to continue without trying something else.

      • J

        And Chris, that isn’t making stuff up to bash him. Continuing to send him out to pitch every five days, when the Reds were clearly in the playoff hunt and he was showing no signs of being anything but bad, was one of the weirdest managerial decisions I’ve ever seen. I think you’re making up stuff to bash me.

      • wkuchad

        Bell has a certain amount of control yes, but Krall determines the starting pitching 100% (I assume with some input from Bell). Weaver is in no way on Bell. If anything, the fact that the Reds won so many of Weaver’s terrible starts gives kudos to Bell.

      • Chris

        Sorry J, you are just wrong. Krall had Weaver on the team to start, and Bell essentially had no options but to use him. Secondly, knowing that Weaver already gives you no more than about 4 innings, you really would choose to burn the bullpen each 5 day that much more? Really? You aren’t making any sense, and yes, this is just another way for you to bash Bell.

  7. BuzzKutter

    Giants a sac and sac away from coming back to walk this off.

  8. Eddiek957

    Marte at short well that’s different

  9. Mark Moore

    That was an unsatisfying inning.

    Could be a rocky night for the Redlegs with this guy on the mound.

  10. Mark Moore

    DD#1 did a year of grad school in Detroit City. Had an apartment that could see the river and Belle Isle. Quite the revitalization effort there (spoken as one who lived in Grand Rapids for nearly 20 years).

  11. RedsGettingBetter

    The first inning shows what could be the night to the Reds offense against E-Rod…

  12. J

    It’s becoming almost comical how often opposing pitchers can get through the first inning on 10 pitches.

    • BuzzKutter

      And now a walk and wild pitch with 2 outs for the pitching.

  13. Roger Garrett

    Reds have only one hit in the last 6 innings and it was the winner last night by our missing catcher who has had now 3 days out of the last 4 off.Yeah I know its a day game tomorrow but why not play him tonight and rest him tomorrow or why not play him both days.Just saying all hands on deck cause all games count

  14. J

    So THAT’s why Friedl is hitting 8th! It’s the RBI position.

  15. VaRedsFan

    TJ Triple…2 run variety.
    Bottom of the order comes through again.

  16. Mark Moore

    Did Larkin say Friedl “let that ball travel”?

    Nice turn on that pitch to drive it down the line.

  17. Roger Garrett

    Friedl heard me complaining about not hitting and said take that old man and I gladly will.GO REDS

  18. Beaufort Red

    And some people have said Friedl is our 4th outfielder next year! Unbelievable

    • Harry Stoner

      Oops…you beat me to it, BR.

    • JB

      Exactly. They are the same people loving Fairchild. Smh

  19. Harry Stoner

    Friedl, the “Fourth Outfielder” to some here, with his 8th 3B of the season.

  20. Mark Moore

    Scored 2, turned over the line-up, and ran up his pitch count just a bit. Nice work all the way around.

    OK, Connor … they boys backed you. Just do your job here. Nothing fancy.

  21. J

    Friedl just absolutely crushes left-handed pitching.

  22. Chris

    That 4th outfielder (as some actually call him) continues to show he’s among the two most impactful players on this team this year.

    • JB

      Those same people will be quiet now until Friedl goes 0-12. Then they will be all over him. SMH.

  23. Mark Moore

    Escaped that batch of trouble. Nice glovework and positioning by Senzel.

  24. Roger Garrett

    Phillips obviously has the stuff just not sure if he knows where the ball is going but would be nice if he could go 5 at least.

    • Mark Moore

      He’s young. That definitely plays into it. I think he does have the stuff to compete.

  25. Mark Moore

    Love the variability of the Chumpire again tonight. Got to be so frustrating for our younger players. And for everyone in general.

  26. BuzzKutter

    I have to figure out how to adjust this box on my screen. I got a new TV but there is still something wrong with it. Three of those weren’t even close.

  27. RedAlert

    Kid doesn’t throw enough strikes

  28. J

    I understand why you can’t really do this, but I would like to have a guy warming in the bullpen every inning from this point forward.

    • RedAlert

      Can’t pitch from behind continuously to
      major league hitters man

  29. Mark Moore

    One haunting walk plus one wall-scraper equals a reset …

  30. Roger Garrett

    Bound to happen and it did.Just can’t walk major league hitters.He will learn but its tough at this level and at this time of year.

  31. JB

    Can’t live on two runs now. Have to score more.

  32. Indy Red Man

    You’d think one of these new kids would run into a solid start but guess not.

  33. BuzzKutter

    I would like to order up one of those walks and Homer’s for the offense. Where has the longball gone?

  34. Old-school

    Friedl is a core part of this team. He does many things well

  35. Melvin

    Thank you for the poor defensive fundamentals. We’ll take it. 🙂

  36. JB

    Friedl with a bunt hit. Didn’t somebody say last night he was tired of Friedl bunting? The crap people post.

  37. AllTheHype

    I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a MLB batter with the bunting skill that Frield has. He looks like he’s tossing the ball where he wants, every time.

  38. Harry Stoner

    India still chasing that pitch.

  39. Melvin

    Thank you for letting that run score too. lol 🙂

    • BuzzKutter

      Yeah, after the strikeout that was a gift run.

      • Melvin

        Welsh – “I’m stunned every time I see a major league team unable to defend that”.

        I agree.

  40. AllTheHype

    That works for another run, but swung at ball 4 there.

  41. Mark Moore

    That worked out … a little weird to see, but it worked out.

    • AllTheHype

      Bad play by their 2nd Baseman. He looked home, had time, but didn’t go there for some reason. We’ll take it.

  42. RedsGettingBetter

    It’s a weird way to score a run by the Reds but it comes to be more frequently in recent games….

  43. LarkinPhillips

    Maile did absolutely nothing that inning that will go noticed by people not watching the game. But he didn’t strike out and hustled that grounder out to beat the double play. Then perfectly executed that steal and stop to stay in the run down long enough to score marte. He quietly helped the Reds execute and score 2 runs.

    • AllTheHype

      He’s a ball player for sure. He competes as hard as anyone on the team.

      • Ted Alfred

        He’s the best overall #2 catcher I can remember the Reds having

  44. J

    This isn’t even a joke… It now surprises me more when a guy is able to score on a sacrifice fly than when a guy is able to score by stealing home. What is going on with this team and sac flies?

    • AllTheHype

      You’re complaining about HOW they score, why?

      • J

        No, I’m complaining about the fact that they don’t seem to be able to hit sacrifice flies. Why? Because sac flies can be helpful. For example, in that last inning, a sacrifice fly from India wouldn’t have ended the inning. They’d have had a runner on first, a run in, and the #2 hitter at the plate. But instead they had to rely on Maile giving himself up to score a run.

        I can’t believe this is an argument. Being able to hit sacrifice flies has been a good thing in baseball since baseball started.

      • AllTheHype

        India’s not trying to sacrifice himself there, nor should he be. If he hits a fly ball out that turns into a SF, fine. But he’s not trying to sacrifice.

  45. BuzzKutter

    ^%=/$&== Phillips stop walking the leadoff hitter.

    • AllTheHype

      Command is not his strong suit.

    • Harry Stoner

      He might have thought he was supposed to do that on the Reds.

      A team tradition.

  46. J

    With Cabrera running, I’d almost like to see Senzel run that ball across the infield rather than throw it.

    • AllTheHype

      Antone is rested and should be able to go 2 if the first inning is efficient enough. Unless they are saving him for tomorrow….

      Would be nice to get Phillips thru 4 though and possibly even 5, knowing tomorrow is gonna be a long bullpen day.

  47. BuzzKutter

    Two of the three runs are walks…..sheesh

  48. Melvin

    Did a walk score again? Hmmm

    Phillips is giving his all though and keeping us in the game so far. Can’t complain too much at this point.

  49. RedsGettingBetter

    The walks keep Phillips in trouble

  50. J

    This really isn’t a good day to try to squeeze an extra inning or two out of of the starter…

    • AllTheHype

      Tomorrow is a bullpen day. It actually IS a good day to squeeze Phillips.

      • J

        No, it isn’t. If you lose today’s game because you’re worried about an inning tomorrow, you’re not being smart.

      • J

        Hmm…. Bell isn’t letting him try to get through this inning. He must be crazy, right? Doesn’t he know tomorrow is a bullpen day?

      • AllTheHype

        If I didn’t know better, you’re kinda complimenting Bell there.

      • J

        Well, I’m complimenting that he didn’t make a third mistake in that inning. He made one in letting him start the inning, another in letting him face a second hitter, but then he got one right. So, yes, I like what he did after those first two mistakes.

      • Chris

        Those weren’t mistakes. Bell would have been an idiot to pull the kid after 4 innings at that point. Again, Bell messes up a lot, but geez, you make stuff up to bash him.

  51. Indy Red Man

    3-4 runs by the 4th again. Lowder is better then these guys. Not will be better but is better

  52. JB

    I think Phillips comes out for the 5th on a short leash. Bell gives them a chance but if the batter reaches on a hit or walk, he pulls them.

    • BuzzKutter

      I agree and am okay with it. One batter reaches and yank him.

      • JB

        Leaves him in and another guy gets a hit. Come on Bell.

  53. LarkinPhillips

    People were clamoring so hard for phillips earlier this year. Anyone who watched him in Chat or Lou watched what we are watching today. Very good stuff. Not polished. He walks a lot of people with pitches that aren’t even competitive. I like that he is up learning in the bigs though. I think it will help him and Richardson for next year.

    • AllTheHype

      He doesn’t have starter repertoire or command. He might eventually, but as you say, not polished.

    • Chris

      In fairness, he didn’t give up HR’s in AAA though.

  54. RedsGettingBetter

    The Reds hitters helped Ed Rod being so agressive swinging the first pitch finishing the inning tossing just 5 pitches… To be patient was a better strategy I think

  55. J

    A 5-pitch inning in that situation is not ideal. But I guess these guys must know what they’re doing, right?

    • RedAlert

      Should have been out of the game after the leadoff walk ….. Bell waited too late again

      • BuzzKutter

        With the 5 pitch inning he probably didn’t have anyone ready.

      • J

        Yup. Especially given the fact that Bell didn’t ask any of his hitters to be patient, so the top of the inning lasted about 12 seconds, it was pretty predictable that Phillips wasn’t suddenly going to have great command.

      • Dennis Westrick

        Classic Bell! Always one batter too late! His in-game management, or lack thereof, drives this old Reds fan nuts!

      • DW

        I agree with Bell letting Connor start the inning, but with a short leash. The leadoff walk is inexcusable there. And Bell should have pulled him after that, especially with the guy that just homered off him coming to the plate.

      • J

        DW — I guess my question is why it makes sense to let him start the inning. While it’s true that he MIGHT suddenly turn it around and pitch two or three strong innings, why would we expect it? He’d been shaky in every inning, and he’d barely had a chance to sit down in the top of the inning because the hitters couldn’t be patient. What would lead anyone to think he’s likely to have a good inning?

      • DW

        J – To give him the chance to save the bullpen some innings. If he gets through one more inning, that is likely one less reliever burned for tomorrow’s game. If he allows someone onbase, as he did, then you bring in the reliever you would have, and that reliever can do his job. Just my opinion.

      • J

        But what happened was that he actually had to use two relief pitchers to get through the inning because they inherited two runners. I just think there had to be a better way…

      • Chris

        J, I get the sense that you didn’t play baseball past Little League. You really thing the manager of a MLB baseball team is going to walk up and down the dugout and tell his players to start taking pitches? LOL…Clearly the game plan was to jump on fastballs early in the count.

    • BuzzKutter

      I guess so. Nobody had even put a good swing on him.

  56. RedAlert

    Let’s walk some more dudes …. Are you
    kidding me.

    • J

      Has he actually thrown a strike to anyone?

      • Harry Stoner

        Are you watching?

        Cruz struck out the previous two batters.

      • J

        Yeah, I saw them swing at a lot of pitches out of the zone. That was the point I was making.

      • RedAlert

        Yea but I know exactly what J means … he was all over the map with those pitches

      • JB

        Doesn’t need to throw a strike as long as they are swinging .

    • Harry Stoner

      “Intentional” wakj to set up the Moll vs < Mendoza matchup?

  57. Mark Moore

    Don’t you love it when the wheels fall off?

    • Harry Stoner

      Nah….I think Bell did pretty well with that.

      Pitched around Miggy and brought in the lefty to handle the meat.

      • Mark Moore

        Which he did handle. So the outcome is good.

  58. Mark Moore

    Look what I found in my glove!!!

  59. J

    Good job, Moll. Not walking the first hitter was all we could realistically have asked for. Getting the guy out was just gravy.

    • Harry Stoner

      It seems like Reds pitchers have the “green light” to walk the first batter they face in whatever situation they find themselves in.

  60. BuzzKutter

    None of the wins ever come in the boring variety. It would be nice once in awhile though.

    • Harry Stoner

      Yep. I’d love to sit back with a bowl of pretzels and watch an easy Reds win.

      I guess I should have done that with Greene’s last start.

      More of those.

    • DW

      I was thinking the same thing the other day. They just never blow anyone out. They always seem to play to the competition, or get blown out themselves. Then the series finally against St. Louis happened…that was a nice change.

  61. old-school

    Sam Moll is amazing. 1 scoring inning in 6 weeks.

    Yet some say Krall didnt trade for elite SP Giolito or Lorenzen or Scherzer….all of him were available and all of him are injured or stink or mediocre and not moving the needle…..Not aging well for the Krall didnt do anything crowd.

    There were people who said trade for Scherzer and Ohtani?????

    • Mark Moore

      And Moll isn’t a rental. That’s bonus points for The Bull.

    • Harry Stoner

      With Sanmartin struggling and then TJed out, another lefty in the BP was really a deeper need.

      SP options weren’t so good, but I was keen on getting Lorenzen back.

      Moll has been a find, but needn’t have been the ONLY move Krall made.

      At least he didn’t make any bad trades….we have the winter for that.

    • Ted Alfred

      I was a huge fan of the Moll trade from the got go, especially since we have control of him through 2027 and he’s been awesome with the reds. He throws strikes, has good stuff doesn’t get flustered

  62. AllTheHype

    Nifty pinch run decision on 3-2 count there.

  63. Mark Moore

    I like the late AB insertion of Elly as a PR. Kind of took everybody by surprise.

    At least we’re done with Rodriguez for the night.

    • Harry Stoner

      So EDLC to 3b, Senzel to RF, Steer to 1B?

      Bell must be like a pill bug on his back with his legs kicking in glee.

      • Harry Stoner

        Okay…I was close.

        Moving Marte to third adds one more switcheroo for Bell.

        Four player position moves in one.

        A Bell quadrifecta.

      • Melvin

        “A Bell quadrifecta”

        hahaha 🙂

  64. BuzzKutter

    Did I see a hitting coach talking to Marte there?

  65. VaRedsFan

    For those wondering Friedl is 15 for 22 (.682) when bunting.
    8 PA’s were counted as sacrifices.

    People were right…he needs to stop bunting. ….eyeroll

    • JB

      Exactly. What in the heck are they watching.

      • Harry Stoner

        Friedl and Fraley are in the way of Fairchild for his fans here.

        They won’t be getting much love from some.

    • AllTheHype

      That’s incredibly impressive. I wonder what the BA record is for anyone with 20+ attempts in a season? Gotta be it maybe.

  66. JB

    Just looking at the wild card standings. Man the Padres are the most underperforming team. Alot of talent every year and they spend alot of money and they get blah.

  67. J

    Friedl hits lefties better than righties. Everyone (especially Bell) needs to accept this.

    • AllTheHype

      Bell has a handedness bias that applies to every LHB not named Votto, Winker, or Moustakas. Stats do not matter.

  68. Old-school


    In full scoreboard watching mode

    It’s a Wednesday in September.

    Sign me up

  69. Harry Stoner

    Akil Neomon Baddoo.

    One of the all-time great baseball names.

    • Mark Moore

      Nickname should be Bada-Bing Baddoo

  70. BuzzKutter

    Mets up 4-0. Need to pull out all the stops to win this.

  71. Beaufort Red

    I know Senzel catches a bunch of crap, some deserved some not deserved, but it sure is useful that he , like Steer can play all multiple positions.

    • Mark Moore

      I’m still thinking he finds himself in a different uniform for 2024. Change of scenery is probably a good thing for him.

  72. Mark Moore

    Oh holy crap!!! Trainer out to look at Antone???

    • JB

      Just a shame. I mean who isn’t pulling for this guy.

  73. BuzzKutter

    No no Antone, I wonder what they saw. I didn’t see anything.

  74. Old-school

    DJ saw something….anyone got anything? He looked ok

    • VaRedsFan

      Just about every pitch was offspeed .
      Fastball topped out at 92.

      That’s all I got.

  75. RedsGettingBetter

    The last pitch was at 89.8 MPH a four seam FB… Concerning… the fastball before was at 92.4 MPH…

    • AllTheHype

      Yeah I rewound it, watched it again and didn’t see anything, but did notice that. Any then he threw over to 1st in the dirt.

  76. Mark Moore

    Phillies are also down to the Bravos late in the game.

    • Harry Stoner

      All SEVEN of them?

      Okay, walking Miggy was a good idea.

      The others….

  77. Mark Moore

    I don’t like to rant on Sims and I hope he finishes Torkleson off. But he does make me nervous.

    • AllTheHype

      Sims has got to be leading the team in BBs from 0-2 and 1-2 counts.

    • Harry Stoner

      Sims picked Antone up by walking the first batter.

      Need to make sure that happens every inning.

      If Antone is hurt and can’t hold up his end of things and walk someone, then Sims will step in.

    • BuzzKutter

      I was hoping for a game to be under control. Now I am just hoping for an inning!

  78. Mark Moore

    So a lot of bullpen work last night. A lot tonight. And a bullpen game slated for tomorrow afternoon.

    What could possibly go wrong? 😮

    Or is this a formula for us to sweep the Tiggers … 😛

  79. Harry Stoner

    Has any team K-ed 10 times while also walking 10 batters?

    We could see it tonight.

  80. LarkinPhillips

    Benson for senzel verse a righty?

  81. Mark Moore

    I know we harp on this, but why not Benson here for Senzel?

  82. BuzzKutter

    And now a 7 pitch inning to go with the 5

  83. West Larry

    Terrible new. Antone out with elbow issues.

    • Mark Moore

      And not likely with Meadows running. Just K him instead.

  84. RedAlert

    Every single game with Gibaut – every single game …..

  85. Mark Moore

    Can we get a DP on Kelly and get credit for an out in the 8th?

    Asking for a friend … 😀

  86. Ted Alfred

    McClain is the better SS….hope he’s back soon

    • Mark Moore

      He’s a WAY better SS. But with that oblique injury, I’m not sure he makes it back before 2024. Maybe for a playoff series. If he does come back, that’s a good problem to have.

      • Melvin

        Big 6’5″ guy getting down on those slow grounders is not easy.


    • AllTheHype

      McLain is better at SS, but EDLC is also a plus defender there.

  87. VaRedsFan

    11 LOB’s for the Tigers thru 7

    Playing with fire.

  88. LarkinPhillips

    Good job Gibaut. We have to find a way to score here in top of 8th. I assume Duarte then Diaz?

  89. VaRedsFan

    Didn’t know that was Kirk Gibson in the Tiger booth.
    He sounds like he’s 97.

    • Mark Moore

      With wear and tear, that might be accurate.

    • RedsMonk65

      He is 66, and deals with Parkinson’s disease.

  90. Mark Moore

    Still no Martini or Benson, eh?

    • Roger Garrett

      Bell is just toying with us.He always does the unexpected.

    • VaRedsFan

      The veteran presence trumps all handedness

  91. Roger Garrett

    No doubt Reds can go on a winning streak but they will have to hit and just like last night they just disappear at the plate.Reds pen may still get 6 outs but we need to score some to allow them to at least breath.

  92. Old-school

    Tigers BP 4 pitch walk to lead off hitter

  93. VaRedsFan

    5 straight balls
    Renfroe fishes at a slider off the plate.

  94. LarkinPhillips

    5 straight balls to start the inning so Renfroe swings at the slider out of the zone to bail the pitcher out.

    • Roger Garrett

      Then he looks at strike 3.Awful at bat by Renfroe

  95. Mark Moore

    Of all the questionable calls by the Chumpire, that wasn’t one of them.

  96. Harry Stoner

    Not really feeling it for Renfro.

    Not pinch hit Martini or Fraley?

    Bell remains a mystery.

    • Melvin

      Eh. It’s not like we’re in a pennant race and need all the runs we can get.

    • Roger Garrett

      Nope he just does the unexpected.Gave up a long time ago trying to think with Bell regarding lineups and pen usage and who plays and where they play.Way over this old man’s head for sure.

  97. Mark Moore

    He’s not whiffing, but he’s not hitting it hard either.

    • Harry Stoner

      May wind up in the .220s by season’s end.

  98. old-school

    Detroit pitcher has elite off speed. Dont see the Reds playing add on. Need 6 outs…tough one.

  99. JB

    Philly coming back to the pack? One more against Atlanta then three with the Cards and then Atlanta again.

    • Harry Stoner

      Bell has 3 LF hitters on the bench.

      Bader’s splits appalling against RHs.

      I don’t get it.

      • AllTheHype

        Fraley for Renfroe and Benson for Bader and I wonder if that inning is different. That made zero sense letting them hit.

      • Melvin

        “Bell has 3 LF hitters on the bench.”


  100. Beaufort Red

    Guys in my humble opinion Renfroe and Bader have brought little if anything to this team.

    • Harry Stoner

      No need to be humble, BR.

      You are correct in your assessment.

    • Mark Moore

      Renfroe has added some … not enough.

      Bader is sucking air out of the room too often.

      • Chris

        Renfroe has 4 hits. What exactly has he added?

  101. RedAlert

    No walks here Duarte … throw strikes man

  102. Mark Moore

    Double clutched and it was too soft anyway.

    • Mark Moore

      Day just called him on that.

      Elly playing 3B makes that 99% of the time.

  103. Mark Moore

    Would have been close anyway, but bad throw by India.

  104. LarkinPhillips

    In a penalty race you, you have to turn a double play there. Now we face their best hitter with tying run on.

  105. BuzzKutter

    Not that he would have had him but Indias throw was horrific.

  106. Mark Moore

    Need to give Diaz another 1 or 2 runs as a cushion here.

    • AllTheHype

      Indeed. They get a ghost runner on first via BB against Diaz.

  107. RedAlert

    Very nice relief work there for a change…

  108. BuzzKutter

    Just like the go ahead run, winning this game will be a gift. So ugly

  109. Grand Salami

    Don’t get the ride or die PT of Renfroe and Bader with this one. Votto would have been useful as new DH last inning.

    CES expendable but not Bader. Strange.

  110. JB

    Not much left in bullpen. Do the Reds call up Kennedy for tomorrows game and IL Antone?

    • Mark Moore

      I’m thinking they have to call up somebody. Definitely need a fresh arm tomorrow. And it’s an early game, so have to get that travel started.

  111. Mark Moore

    Metros handling the Snakes (7-0, 7th). Bravos beat the Phillies. We already know about the Stupid Cubs and the Giants. Bernies behind the Phish at the moment (1-0, 7th).

    Let’s put away the Tiggers right now.

    • Ted Alfred

      Indians gave that one away to SF…up 5-2 in the 8th

  112. Ted Alfred

    Really really surprised Friedl was not bunting there in that spot

  113. Mark Moore

    How did the Chumpire blow that call??? Just plain ridiculous.

    • Mark Moore

      “Stands” … so they can’t get it right anyway. Why am I not surprised.

      I still like the aggressive attempt by Marte there to make something happen.

  114. LarkinPhillips

    I don’t understand why Maile hit there and extremely unnecessary play by marte. Friedl hitting away was OK with me although a bunt would have been as well.

  115. Grand Salami

    More of the same. Need insurance runs and let Maile GIDP instead of using a lefty against a tired righty reliever.

    Bell loves pushing buttons and this game it’s total silence. Scripted off day for Votto, Benson, etc?

  116. JB

    Umpiring amazes me. Worst than a weatherman.

    • Mark Moore

      HP Chumpires are so variable and then the base Chumpires get so sloppy and lazy.

  117. Melvin

    So a hot Stephenson doesn’t bat for Maile in a one run game in the 8th with a man on. David Bell is exhausting. Only three more years. No big deal. 😀

    • Mark Moore

      And no Benson for Senzel when we had the chance either.

    • Melvin

      Actually only 2 1/2 before another extension. 😀

  118. Jedi Joey

    They must have seen something that I didn’t. Marte looked like he beat it to me.

    • Mark Moore

      “Stands” means they didn’t see enough to overturn it. Frankly, I think they missed it. But it was very close.

      • Jedi Joey

        It was close but I still don’t see how they thought he was out. He beat it but my opinion won’t over turn it. ha ha

  119. Mark Moore

    Yep … buckle up RLN. We’re coming in for a landing.

  120. Tim

    That was a big no call gamble by Bell with Stephenson and Votto waiting in the wings. Of the three, Maile would be my last choice

    • Melvin

      Frader, Renfro, Senzel, Maile…all could have been pinch hit for.

  121. Mark Moore

    And remember no Miggy coming up either.

  122. JB

    Remember in July and August people were saying Maile should play almost every day over Stephenson? Baseball is a funny game.

    • Tim

      I’m July and August that was true. Stephenson finally looks healthy and with it. Very glad!

  123. Rick

    I was out tonight followed as I could on GameDay. Any Antone updates?
    It like he only threw slow offspeed stuff. Sinker topped out at 92

  124. Mark Moore

    A roster full of Mendoza-line guys and we walk them.

  125. RedAlert

    Diaz ain’t NEVER gonna make it easy …

  126. VaRedsFan

    Obligatory BB
    Setting up the DP?

  127. Mark Moore

    Another generous strike goes our way this time

  128. Mark Moore

    OK, Meadows isn’t even at .200 … can’t mess around with him.

    • Mark Moore

      And still he nibbles.

      Thank goodness that’s over.

    • RedAlert

      Please do ….for crying out loud …. Throw was right on the money !

  129. VaRedsFan

    That’s on Elly.
    Out if he catches it.

    • Ted Alfred

      And its not close. And if you’re not going to catch a perfect throw by Maile in that situation you got problems. I don’t know if anybody caught the look that Bailey gave Ellie but it wasn’t pleasant. I think he’s starting to wear some of the other players out on the team with these constant boneheaded plays

      • Rick

        I saw that. Bet Maile talks that out with him privately.

  130. Old-school

    Ball gamefolks

    3 game winning streak

    Need a hot one.

  131. VaRedsFan

    Raise your hand if you thought that was a base hit off the bat??

    • Jedi Joey

      Most definitely! I almost had a heart attack for a split second.

  132. RedlegScott

    Great bullpen work again (minus the walks). Anyone left for tomorrow?

  133. Ted Alfred

    Does Elly just not concentrate or need glasses or what? That was a great throw and that was the end of the game…except he can’t catch a simple perfect throw from the catcher to end the game. Very lucky his nonsense didn’t cost us. I’m getting kind of worn out with him because he does more dumb things on the field of play then I’ve literally ever seen one player do and most of it just seems to be from lack of focus or concentration.

    • Mark Moore

      I’m seeing a lot of “chinks in his armor” of late. Not sure why. But that’s just another reason I’d rather see him at 3B when we get MattyMc back. I think he’s just pressing right now.

      15 games left.

      • Daytonnati

        It seems he is just too “casual” sometimes? Loses focus. Head not in the game.

      • Rick

        Yes, MM at SS. And, with India at 2nd it’ll be that way for the remainder of 2023. Bell will rotate Marte in to some degree.
        Elly likes to nonchalant routine plays, like that, and pop-ups off to his side.

    • Rick

      Maile gave him a stare down too, it appeared that way.

    • Roger Garrett

      He’s 21 years old and he puts people in the seats because of what he may do that very few if any can do.Saw the play and your right if he just catches the ball they may have got the call and we don’t even have to see that line drive for out number 3.He is best at third but there is no excuse for that really awful attempt.

  134. Mark Moore

    Have the Snakes/Metros on my other screen. Snakes scored 1 but there are 2 outs in the 8th.

    • Mark Moore

      Make that 3.

      Metros still up by 6 and only need 3 more outs. Too bad they don’t have a Diaz to close it out for them tonight.

      • Jedi Joey

        Edwin is trying to make it back before 2023 is over, right? I thought I read that somewhere.

  135. Melvin

    Another squeaker. We pulled it out. Maybe Daivd Bell just wants to keep us on the edge of our seats and not get too comfortable. 🙂

    • Mark Moore

      If that’s his strategy, it’s working here at my house.

    • Rick

      I held my breath on that 3rd out. Thought it went through. Wow nellie!

  136. Doc

    76 wins and counting.
    Winning record in September.
    Still in a playoff race.
    Survived another start by someone not dreamed of as a 2023 rotation piece at season start, and a little bit more experience under Phillips belt for 2024.

  137. Stoney

    Another improbable win. I’ll take it. Absolutely nothing easy. Ever! Let’s get the sweep.

  138. Mark Moore

    33-17 in their last 50 away from GABP. Winning away series at a good clip.

    • JB

      They will be on the road alot in playoffs.

    • Tim

      We’re 17th in HRs in one of the top HR parks and we’ve given them up a ton at home.

  139. J

    Holy cow. Now the Reds really might as well win the World Series.

  140. Roger Garrett

    Can’t wait to see the lineup for tomorrow’s game so we can play manager again for most if not all of the game.Reds win tonight despite and I will leave it right there until tomorrow.GO REDS

    • J

      Who knows what we might get, but here’s what I’m guessing:


      • BuzzKutter

        I will throw in a guess


      • J

        I think I like your guess better than mine.

  141. BuzzKutter

    Three players with hits. Nine strikeouts, I guess it’s still a win.

  142. Jeremiah

    Reds bullpen incredible recently, the unsung heroes for them having a winning record.

    Probably going to come down to the last weekend for the last spot. Not sure who all will be in it but is going to be kind of crazy I think…Reds only 2 games back of the Cubs too.

    I thought the Cubs were a lock but they gotta be feeling some pressure now. Dbacks vs. Cubs this weekend going to be huge.

    • Mark Moore

      Wouldn’t you love to see the Stupid Cubs on the outside looking in? Noses pressed up to the glass, tears in their poor little eyes?

      😀 😀 😀

      • Jeremiah

        Well I’d rather see the Brewers not in it since they absolutely have dominated the Reds ha, but Cubs not in it would be next best I suppose!

  143. Mark Moore

    And the Snakes go down!!

    WC spot #3 is currently ours. Just win, baby, win and good things will happen.

  144. Tim

    Snakes lose. As of right now Reds would be in the WC

  145. Jeremiah

    Pretty exciting for MLB…you got the Reds, Dbacks, Marlins, Giants any team could go on a run and get that last spot, and who knows maybe the Cubs or Phillies collapse (doubtful especially for Philly).

    Cubs play Braves and Brewers their last 7 games I think. But I don’t think Atlanta or Milwaukee will be playing for anything so they may not put their best out against the Cubs, will see.

    • Ted Alfred

      Yeah but other than setting up their pitching rotation they’re not going to want to let off the gas because it’s easy to lose momentum and hard to get it back heading into the post-season

  146. Tim

    It’s amazing that the Cubs have a 129 run differential advantage over us yet we only trail them by 2 games. Baseball is crazy