Last night saw the Blue Jays and Reds battle it out in a scoreless game until the final play – a walk-off home run by Christian Encarnacion-Strand. Cincinnati will look for a win tonight that would give them a series win, while Toronto will be looking to even things up. The first pitch this evening is set for 6:40pm ET.

Starting Lineups

Toronto Blue Jays

Cincinnati Reds

Whit Merrifield – LF TJ Friedl – CF
Bo Bichette – SS Matt McLain – 2B
Vladimir Guerrero Jr. – 1B Elly De La Cruz – SS
Matt Chapman – 3B Spencer Steer – 3B
Davis Schneider – DH Joey Votto – 1B
Alejandro Kirk – C Christian Encarnacion-Strand – DH
Cavan Biggio – RF Tyler Stephenson – C
Santiago Espinal – 2B Will Benson – RF
Daulton Varsho – CF Stuart Fairchild – LF
Chris Bassitt – RHP Brandon Williamson – LHP

Starting Pitchers

Brandon Williamson 81.0 4.33 1.22 31 70
Chris Bassitt 145.2 3.95 1.24 48 137
Links: Brandon Williamson’s Stats | Chris Bassitt’s Stats

Brandon Williamson

The first eight starts for Williamson were a bit of a struggle. He had a 5.82 ERA in that time, but since the start of July he’s made eight more starts and he’s been outstanding. Over those eight starts he’s posted a 2.98 ERA. He’s allowed one run in each of his last two starts.

Left-handed hitters don’t get too many chances to face Williamson and it’s for good reason: They can’t hit him. Lefties are hitting just .222 and have just two extra-base hits against him this year in 63 plate appearances. Right-handed hitters are finding more success against him, but it’s mostly coming from extra-base hits. They still aren’t hitting for much average and they don’t walk a bunch – they do hit for plenty of power against him when they do find hits, though.


RHH 270 56 16 1 13 24 58 .229 .300 .461
LHH 63 12 2 0 0 7 12 .222 .307 .259

Pitch Usage

4-Seam Cutter Curve Slider Change
Velo 92.9 89.0 73.1 81.7 84.3
Usage 36% 28% 7% 14% 15%

Chris Bassitt

The last time out, Bassitt gave up four runs in 6.0 innings against the Cubs, but the time before that he allowed just one run to the Red Sox in 7.0 innings. That’s been a bit of the story for Bassitt this season as he’s had a few rough outings mixed in with solid-to-good outings throughout.

The splits against Bassitt are extreme. Right-handed hitters don’t do much of anything against him, posting a .575 OPS in 308 plate appearances. But lefties are hitting quite well against him. They hit for average, they walk at a solid rate, and they hit for plenty of power against him.

RHH 308 59 12 0 5 18 62 .209 .270 .305
LHH 307 73 15 1 17 30 75 .271 .352 .524

Pitch Usage

4-seam 2-seam Cutter Curve Slider Change
Velo 92.5 91.9 87.8 70.6 75.5 83.4
Usage 10% 39% 15% 12% 15% 9%

When and Where

  • Game time: 6:40pm ET
  • Where: Great American Ball Park
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio, (out of market)
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 82°, sunny, 0% chance of rain

News and Notes

Noelvi Marte called up

The team’s #1 prospect, Noelvi Marte is up, taking place on the roster of Kevin Newman who was placed on the injured list with an oblique strain. While he’s not in the lineup today, expect to see him plenty as David Bell said to reporters pre-game he’s going to start at third base every day (except today).


Team W L GB Playoff Odds
Brewers 66 57 0.0 81.5%
Reds 64 59 2.0 34.3%
Cubs 62 59 3.0 43.8%
Pirates 54 68 11.5 0.0%
Cardinals 54 69 12.0 0.1%
Playoff Odds via Fangraphs

268 Responses

  1. Rick

    Keep pitching well Brandon we need to stack wins and series. If he’s pitching well… I hope he doesn’t get the seemingly usual early hook.
    KSR night at the ballpark; go Reds! Go Wildcats!

  2. Melvin

    ” expect to see him plenty as David Bell said to reporters pre-game he’s going to start at third base every day (except today).”

    Hope that’s true. If so they’ll finally get to see the infield they envision for the future with EDLC at SS and McLain at 2B. I think McLain could play just about anywhere and get a gold glove. Again, this is not good news for the India injury front.

    • Rick

      Looking forward to that group.
      Yeah, not a good sign regarding Inda.

      • Mark Moore

        Nope. I’m still thinking a 60-day is coming and then they will move him (and probably Senzel) in the offseason.

  3. Melvin

    Need to start winning consistently again and build momentum. Need to start now.

  4. Dennis Westrick

    Should be interesting! Bo Bichette back in the lineup for the Blue Jays making a tough lineup even tougher!

    Another important game as the Stupid Cubs beat the hapless Royals and the Brewers are winning against the Rangers!

    The Snakes are winning the 1st game of their DH against the Friars but at least the Fish lost to the Dodgers! Giants at Atlanta a little later!

    Let’s not wait until the 6th inning to get our first hit tonight! Go Reds!

  5. Rick

    Let’s come out hitting, getting on, running and scoring runs.

  6. Old-school

    Looking forward to marte elly matt infield

    Go reds

  7. Mark Moore

    Bichette in his first game back … maybe he’s going to need time to adjust and the junque Williamson is capable of throwing keeps him off balance. Maybe … 😮

    Let’s pluck the Jays while we can. Maybe Marte gets into the game late, or maybe we all wait until tomorrow. September hasn’t had this much potential in quite some time (2021 epic collapse is something I’m working to forget).

    All this and Annie on the pregame show!!! 😀

  8. Mark Moore

    Just flipped to the WLW audio overlay in time to hear HDTBell say he knew CES had hit it out when he first saw it. His excitement in reliving that is almost contagious … 😛

    OK, enough on that. Let’s play some baseball.

  9. Mark Moore

    Nice work, Brandon. Solid first inning.

  10. doofus

    I applaud Elly, he does not demonstrate when he strikes out. He takes his “K” and moves on.

    Umpires will file this away in the future when he needs a close call.

    I like Elly!

  11. doofus

    Excuse my ignorance, but what is “HDT” Bell mean?

  12. Indy Red Man

    Do they really think Votto is better then CES at 1B? I don’t see it. CES is a decent athlete

    • Mark Moore

      See my comments immediately above. And now Williamson has to throw more pitches.

    • VaRedsFan

      Only one person thinks that….the manager.
      JV is 3rd best defender on the team.

  13. doofus

    The principal family loves this attendance. “Where you gonna go?”

  14. VaRedsFan

    Perfect example of how to hit soft tossing lefties…
    Wait on it and go oppo.
    Jays are doing it to perfection so far.

    • Mark Moore

      WLW booth is saying it’s giving Williamson challenges hearing PitchCom.

  15. Bet on Red

    It is no longer Joey “bangs” votto…. it is Joey “hands” Votto

  16. Mark Moore

    And just as we’re all grousing, Father Time pulls that one out of his back pocket.

    Nice recovery, JV!

    • Melvin

      hahaha You guys must love eating crow with Votto. It’s almost like he sets us up. lol

      • Mark Moore

        It’s more than a little amusing, Melvin. I’ll admit to that much when stuff like this happens.

  17. doofus

    WHY is Votto playing 1B? He has NO range!

  18. Jim Walker

    Votto giveth; Votto taketh away.

  19. Melvin

    Votto!!! What do you know about that leaping grab with the bases loaded? 🙂

  20. doofus

    Just when I disparage JV’s defense he show his jumping ability. I am not sold. He was in position. He did not aft to move. I could have made that catch!

    • Mark Moore

      I played some 1B (softball, long time ago, I’m only 5-9). I won’t say I could have snagged that, but your point is taken.

      Also, the other one was slow enough the average MLB 1B’er SHOULD have made that play. He didn’t get leather on it.

      Kudos for the excellent leaping catch, but it only made up for the miss. And the pitch count rolled merrily along.

  21. Dennis Westrick

    BW dodged a BIG bullet there! Now, time to start hitting and putting up a crooked number!

  22. LarkinPhillips

    My hypothesis on AAA hitters doing so well this year isn’t the poor pitching. It’s the challenge system allowing crappy umpires not to change ABs like they do in the pros.

    • Mark Moore


      Interesting perspective. I wonder how we’d ever find enough data to back that up. In essence, you’re trying to prove a negative.

      • LarkinPhillips

        If offensive numbers shoot up next year in the big leagues with the challenge system, then maybe there is a correlation? Tough to prove, just my opinion.

      • Mark Moore

        True. Do we know for a fact MLB will adopt the challenge system for 2024? I haven’t heard, but I’m not paying attention to it either.

        Lower K rate (especially looking) might also be a metric we could use.

    • JB

      That’s an interesting thought LarkinPhillips. You very well could be right.

  23. RedAlert

    Please sit VOTTO – dude stands up there and never swings bat …. Same with several others …. Never seen a team full of dudes stand up there and watch strikes go by like these guys …. Unreal

  24. RedAlert

    Five strikeouts in 2 innings … RIDICULOUS

    • Mark Moore

      Wait … I thought Cy Young was pitching again tonight for the Jays … 😮

      • Melvin

        He’s been pitching a lot against us lately. 😉

  25. Dennis Westrick

    It’s normally the walks by Reds pitchers that drives me nuts! Now it’s the strikeouts by the Reds “hitters”! Five (5) strikeouts thru 2 innings is inexcusable!

    • doofus

      Chill. These young guys are fun to watch. It has been a long time since I have been honestly been able to say that.

  26. Jim Walker

    I believe CES as he walks back to the dugout is thinking that the ump can’t give both that strike 1 call to him that looked inside and that strike 3 call which looked to be tangent with the top outside corner.

    • Mark Moore

      Well, then Mr. CES needs to learn that MLB Chumpires each have their own quirks and none of them have any accountability to improve or get consistent.

      Bring on the challenge system and robo zone.

    • LarkinPhillips

      That zone got huge that inning. Third strike to votto ans strike 1 and 3 to CES.

      • Hanawi

        The 3rd “strike” to Votto was definitely a stretch.

  27. Mike Adams

    Not good, Reds.
    5 out of first 6 batters struck out

  28. doofus

    Bassitt is an assassin! This is the type of FA pitcher the Red’s should sign in free agency this off season.

  29. Dennis Westrick

    Cy Young must be getting very tired! He has shown up a lot at Reds games this season wearing the opponent’s jersey!

    • Mark Moore

      Immortality will do that to you 😛

  30. Mark Moore

    Steer getting a little workout. Nicely done.

  31. Mark A Verticchio

    Who would have thought the pitching would be keeping them in the playoff chase, because it sure is not the hitting.

  32. Mark Moore

    Benson is due … overdue by my count.

  33. Kevin H

    Wait, I thought it was the ” old guys” who couldn’t hit? You mean the rookies can’t either?


    • Mark Moore

      Until the 6th last night, none of them could. And I count only one “old guy” in the line-up for us anyway. 😀

      • Kevin H

        LOL, Glad you got my humor.. Just tryin to lighten the mood lol

      • Mark Moore

        We’re all in this together, Kevin. At least most of us are.

      • RedAlert

        Get him out the game … candy pitch

  34. Mark A Verticchio

    The hitters are making this look too easy.

  35. LarkinPhillips

    The first pitch swing right after a first pitch out drives me nuts. This guy has 5 strikeouts thru 3 innings on 29 pitches. Ridiculous.

  36. Hanawi

    Well, no one was going to be caught looking that inning. Not too upset if a guy tries to jump on an early pitch if the pitcher is pounding the zone, but maybe not all three of them.

  37. west larry

    4 pitch inning! The reds can’t wait to swing.

  38. Daytonnati

    Benson running a little harder to first tonight.

  39. RedsGettingBetter

    Bassit just has thrown 29 pitches even though he’s 5 struckouts… Overwhelming so far… The offense is down completely it isn’t a matter of good pitchers

    • Kevin H

      Are we forgetting that India and Fraley are out. Also 4 rookies who will go through ups and downs. This team finds a way we as fans need to have some patience

  40. Redlegs1869

    I know last night’s homerun walkoff was exciting, but I have some real concerns about our hitting. We now have maybe 3 hits in 12 innings? How sustainable is this? Its not. Hopefully they’ll get it going and maybe Marte will add a spark soon.

    • Mark Moore

      It’s not sustainable. This is where so many of us will rail on HDTBell and the coaching staff, especially given all the young guys playing. We can legitimately assume there is coaching going on, but we’re not seeing the results, even against the weaker teams.

  41. dimondfvr

    Another quality pitcher making the Reds look overmatched.

  42. Moon

    It took the Reds until the 6th inning yesterday to get a hit. They only had four hits for the game. Three more innings to start this game without a hit. Where has the hitting gone?

  43. Mark Moore

    Got behind, walked a guy, made a mistake and we paid the price.

    And then THAT happens. Top of the order for the Jays is a bit murderous.

    • Mark Moore

      Wheels coming off. DJ needs to go clear his head for him.

  44. Grover

    Every batter knows Williamson is going to pitch away and they are swinging accordingly.

    • LarkinPhillips

      It blows my mind how other teams have game plans and we seem to never have one. Unless double digit strikeouts is our game plan

  45. Indy Red Man

    BW doesn’t have it tonight. No snap on the breaking stuff. That’s probably it with our hitting lately

  46. Mark Moore

    Side note … Varsho runs like a duck. 😛

  47. RedsGettingBetter

    Well , Blue Jays are securing the game just in the 4th after 2 outs and bases empty…

  48. Dennis Westrick

    Walks, especially with 2 outs, always come back to haunt! And, in the Red’s case, usually score!

  49. Mark Moore

    The extra pitches due to the JV misplayed grounder, this inning with the walk to a guy who can’t hit the size of his pants, and more pitches. Tough night for Williamson. Probably a long night for the bullpen.

    • JB

      “can’t hit the size of his pants”- classic

  50. Kevin H

    Well the good news the balls weren’t hit that hard, or according to game cast? Thats all I got

    • Dennis Westrick

      We’ll take anything at this point until the ghost of Cy Young leaves!

  51. Melvin

    Shaky play by De La Cruz there but he got em.

  52. Indy Red Man

    8 hits to none. Lucky we’re only down 3

  53. Dennis Westrick

    Time to start a comeback! Don’t need all the runs back in one inning! Plenty of time!

    It will require the Reds to stop striking out however!

  54. Mark Moore

    TJ makes him pay for that cookie. And it’s only the 4th inning.

    Maybe that will spark the guys tonight.

  55. LT

    When was the last time EDCL did something good? This is the time.

  56. Mark Moore

    It dawns on my that, in the old days, with the US-Canadian exchange rate, we’d practically be tied right now.

  57. Melvin

    Good AB by Mighty Mac. Need a good AB from EDLC.

  58. Mark Moore

    Is Kirk that good that our fastest guys aren’t trying to steal on him?

  59. Mark Moore

    Terrible relay throw and EDLC made them pay BIG TIME.

  60. Melvin

    There ya go!!!! Reds baseball!!! Tie game!!!

  61. VaRedsFan

    Elly in the building!!!
    Circles the bases.
    ELLY -ectric

  62. Kevin H

    Great rebound second time seeing Bassitt.

  63. Grover

    Some De La Cruz magic and we are all even.

  64. Mark Moore

    Watching that replay, Elly almost caught MattyMc. He was approaching 3rd as MattyMc was about halfway down the line to home.

    • Beaufort Red

      Seriously, one at bat. Seen his at bats since the All Star Break? That’s delusional.

      • JB

        He is 21 and in the Majors. You are not.

      • Kevin H

        Have to Agree with JB, He is 21 and in major league baseball. We are not, and more in likely no where near a mlb field at age 21

      • LarkinPhillips

        So since we aren’t in the majors we can’t criticize or comment on players? Going to make it tough on doug if that becomes a rule.

  65. Bet on Red

    went from perfect game to pretty good red inning real quick

  66. RedsGettingBetter

    Wow, unbilievable quick Reds offense response! What a team!

  67. LT

    That’s the way to have your pitcher’s back. Got 3 runs back to tie the game. TJ woke the offense up.

  68. Mark Moore

    This just in …

    MattyMc is very fast. EDLC is nuclear reaction fast.

  69. Mark Moore

    Making a little more contact. Maybe exercising a little more patience. Feels a bit more like the stuff we did over a month ago on that wonderful winning streak.

    Hope this settles Williamson down so he can give us one more inning.

    • Kevin H

      I smell another one on the horizen

  70. Kevin H

    De La Cruz got behind in the count 0-2 or 1-2 and battled. Good to see. He truly is a good baseball player. Still young 21 and learning as he goes.

    • Mark Moore

      I keep reminding myself about that and the whole idea that none of us would have predicted we’d be in a pennant race in 2023.

      • Kevin H


        I tell myself that I am happy with how this season has unfolded and so what if they don’t make playoffs. As this year is a bonus, however truth is I want them to make playoffs and go to world series. I think it can happen.

  71. Mark A Verticchio

    Batting Votto 5th is becoming an issue.

    • Mark Moore

      Yep. But where else are we gonna go, right? 😮

      • Melvin

        Hopefully he’s setting everyone up for some more crow. 😉

  72. Mark Moore

    Schneider who?

    Cookie that didn’t fool him.

  73. RedAlert

    Typical Reds move right there … tie game up and give it right back … candy pitch

  74. Kevin H

    Question. Is Stephenson previous injuries last year and I think a surgery still affecting him. I don’t see a player of his caliber struggling this bad like he has

    • Mark Moore


      I’m thinking that and the grind of a “recovery season” is what we’re seeing. I still think he’s a quality starting catcher, but the injury aftermath is still nagging him.

  75. RedAlert

    Tyler Stephenson has basically no business in this lineup … has been awful this year

    • Ted Alfred

      The number of times he’s hit two or three bouncers to shortstop this year is kind of mind boggling

  76. Mark Moore


    Playing with a few emojis. We’ll see if anything works (then I’ll share what I learned).

    • Mark Moore

      Nope. Nevermind.

      And Benson isn’t due just yet 🙁

      • Mark Moore

        It appears the site only translates VERY basic character stuff.

        I’m done experimenting for tonight.

      • Melvin

        Maybe Doug will figure it out for us some time. 😉

  77. Melvin

    Fairchild up right now. Might be his last start for a good while with Marte here.

  78. LT

    That is one pathetic inning by TS, Benson, and Fairchild. Benson needs to stop learning from Votto, stops staring at strike 3, smh.

    • RedAlert

      I totally agree ! … SWING THE BAT !!!!

    • LarkinPhillips

      Twice in this game that exact thing can be said. They at least saw more than 4 pitches this time. Only because Benson struck out.

  79. Mark A Verticchio

    Only down 4 to 3 but at the same time only have 2 hits.

  80. Kevin H

    See if Williamson can get one more inning. A clean inning of course

  81. JB

    Williamson has been off today but has grinded it out and made it into the 6th.

  82. Roger Garrett

    Yep and two hits won’t win this one for sure.Their guy is just following the script on our aggressive young hitters.Only 65 pitches after 5 sure will get it done.

    • Kevin H

      Opps, that was suppose to be for Mark who was working on different Emojis

    • Mark Moore

      See above comment. Looks like the site only translates the most basic character emojis into images.

  83. RedAlert

    Nice job Williamson …. Just a few mistakes … he’s come a long way though and will be a solid rotation piece in future

    • Mark Moore

      Yep. The kind of #4 guy you want all season long.

  84. Melvin

    Almost a pop up HR to left there by De La Cruz. 🙂

  85. Mark Moore

    Rainbow double high off the wall. Almost got that one.

    But all for naught.

    • LT

      He is. We need his bat to wake up badly.

  86. VaRedsFan

    It was all about approach for the Jays against BWill…
    They had a plan.
    Soft contact mostly, going oppo.
    The HR was the only real bad pitch.

  87. Mike Adams

    Friedl and EDLC are the only batters into this game.
    All the rest of the Reds better get with the program!

  88. Indy Red Man

    Big crowd and Elly has them buzzing. See if they can ride that to a late push.

  89. Melvin

    Cruz is looking like the set up man now.

    • Mark Moore


      Capable of more than 1 inning and normally fairly efficient. Opponents just don’t see enough of his more nasty stuff to figure it out on short notice.

  90. Mark Moore

    Cruz bared down and did what was needed. Now back to the hunt for a drunken Jobu under the Purple Bridge and our bats.

    You could tell Marte would love to get his first shot tonight.

    • Ryan

      “It’s coming together, I’m almost there, I’ll retire if I can’t compete…”

      • LT

        I know what you are talking about bro. I am his harshest critics. But we need his bat to win us a couple of games.

    • Mark Moore

      Don’t do that. That’s just plain depressing to see. 🙁

  91. Mark Moore

    Went with that pitch and bled it into RF. That works. Now did anybody else pay attention?

  92. Mark Moore

    Not our fastest guys on base, but the both did what they needed to do.

    Time for a little redemption, Will.

  93. Jim

    We have a player that had been playing that is playing just because of his hitting. because he is below avg. on defense and absolutely cannot run the bases. He is hitting .206
    WHY is he playing????
    Don’t we want to play our best!!’

  94. Kevin H

    Wow Mazya impressive stats for the Jays

  95. LT

    TS has hit in back to back game. Good sign.

  96. Melvin

    I’m not sure why we used our only LH bat off the bench as a switch hitter there when we’ve got several other RH bats but he did get on. Fairchild walks. Time to do damage Mr. Legit. 😉

    • Kevin H

      I try not too, however I at times wish analytics wasn’t depended on so much. Benson was capable in my opinion.

  97. Mark Moore


  98. Melvin

    Marte not if the lineup down in AAA tonight. Oh yeah! 😉

    • CI3J

      I think he’s already in Cincinnati.

  99. LT

    Good bullpen work again. Mm gets on base and EDLC drives him in. C’mon

  100. Indy Red Man

    Reds are 2-5 in 1 run games at home since the AS break. Can’t do that and make the playoffs

  101. Indy Red Man

    We have Hicks number! Let’s go!!!

  102. Kevin H

    Hicks throwing over 100mph.. geesh

  103. CI3J

    Does every team have at least 1 pitcher throwing 100mph+ now?

    I remember even just 10 years ago that was still pretty rare, but now it seems like everyone has at least 1 or possibly 2 or 3 pitchers who can hit triple digits.

    • Mark Moore

      Pretty much. And where it used to be the odd reliever, it’s now starters as well.

      And the fatigue and TJ surgery seem to increase for no apparent reason … 😮

  104. Mark Moore

    I’m gonna have to say it. I feel it brewing inside me. I don’t want to, but I don’t think I can fight it.

  105. Indy Red Man

    This team just cannot maintain anything.
    3 hitters 3 runs to start that inning and the crowd is going nuts, but then nothing. Atleast 4-5 dead spots in the lineup every night

    • VaRedsFan

      Their team approach to hitting all changed during the 20 game HR streak.

  106. Mark Moore

    Yep, HDTBell … leaving Young in worked perfectly … SMHXH!!

    Time for Bike Helmets. Bring on The Law.

    • Brian Rutherford

      That dude can’t win. If he takes him out after pitching well he’s wrong. If he leaves him in after pitching well, he’s also wrong. I think you bring a lot to the table with your comments but the constant use of stupid nicknames for the guy doing his best for the team is REALLY old.

  107. Mark Moore

    That shot with the light fixture makes Mr. Redlegs look like he was missing a tooth.


  108. VaRedsFan

    They need to walk these guys off again, just so they can shut the mouth of the Jays fan in row 2

  109. RedsGettingBetter

    Phillies, Brewers, Cubs and DBacks won. Miami lost the first game. SF is leading 5-4 in mid 6th. DBacks are going to start the 2nd game against SD and Miami does the same vs LAD. The night is not good so far…

  110. Indy Red Man

    Romano 29-3 with saves, but we have to get to the dugout 4-3 first. We need some more magic

  111. Mark Moore

    That should have been the DP I was asking for.

  112. Indy Red Man

    Maile gets him there I think. The ball beat him, but TS bounced it

    • Mark Moore

      He rushed a throw he didn’t need to rush.

    • Ted Alfred

      Send out an alert the next time Stephenson doesn’t bounce the throw to 2nd…dude was out by 5 ft with a decent throw

  113. VaRedsFan

    Ty needs to hit the batter there, drawing the interference…out.
    Do coaches teach these things…almost once a week things pop up.

  114. Kevin H

    Bullpen allowed no hits and 3 walks in their relief innings. Not too bad

    • JB

      Law hasn’t allowed a run in almost a month. Only 3 hits.

  115. Melvin

    Votto/CES with back to back HR? 🙂

    • Mark Moore

      Thrall said nobody up in the Jays pen, so if it’s still Hicks, he definitely provides the power needed.

      Nope, it’s their closer Romano.

  116. Indy Red Man

    What happened to Steve S? Banned?

    • Indy Red Man

      Wrote more novels then Hemingway on why CES should never be called up….lol

  117. Melvin

    Wish Stephenson could bunt. Maybe try it anyway.

  118. Ted Alfred

    I flat out don’t get it… Stephenson is a double play waiting to happen, you have to bunt there to get the runners to second and third with one out. How in the world do you let him swing away there David Bell

  119. RedAlert

    Terrible AB Stephenson , terrible !!!!!

  120. LarkinPhillips

    You have to bunt there. It’d be different if you didn’t have you worst hitter in the lineup up. That is a wasted AB by tysteve.

    He is safe.

  121. Mark Moore

    This call stays. Opportunity knocks VERY LOUDLY!!!

  122. Bet on Red

    Dude has that bronson Arroyo leg kick going

  123. Melvin

    Come on. Got to make contact Ramos.

    • Melvin

      Pooooop!!! K is NOT what we needed.

  124. Ted Alfred

    That is a perfect example of why I don’t think David Bell can ever be the guy. Even if you have to pinch it there you have to bunt for Stephenson…its just ridiculous

  125. Mark Moore

    Now it has to be a hit, not just a Sac Fly.

  126. Mark Moore

    Major Stink. Fish. Pot!!!!

    I told you it was coming.

  127. Kevin H

    What a good baseball game. They battled. I do think India and Fraley being out had hurt the offense MOJO a tad.

    Great game though

  128. Indy Red Man

    Fail again

    2 and $#&@’n 6 in 1 run games at home since the break

    • Dennis Westrick

      AND 8-12 since Bell was extended! Can’t wait for Bell’s excuses on the post-game interview!

  129. LarkinPhillips

    Poor fundamentals, terrible execution, and finding a way to lose a one run game. That is the exact definition of a David bell managed team. Terrible terrible terrible way to lose tonight. But thank goodness Bell got an extension so we can have three more years of this crap!

  130. Melvin

    Very poor ABs there by Ramos and Fairchild to end it. An argument can be made for very poor managing by David Bell there by not trying to bunt Stephenson with two on and no outs down one run in the 9th.

    • Mark Moore

      The end result after TySteve didn’t was the same, though. 2nd and 3rd with only 1 out. And Ramos couldn’t put wood on it to save his life tonight.

      • Melvin

        These guys just act like they have no concept of situational hitting and baseball in general. Ramos was obviously swinging for the fences there when all he had to do was make contact. Kd on a bad pitch. Give me someone like Lopez in that situation over most of these guys. smh Put Lopez on the 40 man roster.

    • Dennis Westrick

      You mean “Small Ball”? Bell has never heard of it and couldn’t spell it if you spotted him the Smal and Bal.

  131. Dennis Westrick

    Ramos has been pretty much useless since he was called back up!

  132. Mark Moore

    For the record, I had on the hat and t-shirt tonight. Fat lotta good that did … 😮

    Back at it tomorrow for Marte’s first start.

  133. RedsGettingBetter

    Two RISP and 1 out but Ramos and Fairchild due up, it was an easy job to Romano.
    Ramos is not a big league hitter at least not a clutch one…

    • AllTheHype

      Neither is Fairchild. He’s not anywhere near an average corner OFer, as some here state. He’s pretty solidly below average as a corner.

      Hopefully adding Marte to the positional lineup pushes Fairchild out.

  134. RedAlert

    10 more whiffs tonight …awful ABs in the most crucial situations time and time and time again this year has cost REDS numerous wins

    • CI3J

      Makes you wonder what the hitting coach is telling them. Or maybe the pressure of being in the playoff hunt is getting to some of the players and they’re pressing too much.

      Still, that’s the coach’s job to calm them down and get them to play the best they can.

  135. CI3J

    Over the course of a long season, things tend to balance out.

    During the Reds’ winning streak back in June, they were the kings of 1-run games. Now they can’t win a 1-run game to save their dog’s life.

    It’s one reason why baseball is such a beautiful sport. They play so many games, there can be no doubt at the end of the season that the records accurately reflect the teams.

  136. Ted Alfred

    Unfortunately I think if Maile starts instead of Ty the end result might have been very different. Stephenson has been an anchor weighing this team down all year.

    • Melvin

      Have to say Stephenson is not looking good right now at a crucial position. Maile is better at the moment.

  137. Andrew Brewer

    Didn’t you know we were going to do it in the 9th. And there it all unfolded. 1st and second with no outs. Then 2nd and 3rd with one out. No way we wouldn’t score at least one. I thought, now Ramos gets his redemption, and he strikes out on three pitches… That was the crucial at bat. Great drama but a sad ending today… Looks like no help from the baseball gods…

  138. Protime

    Bell, at his best, no managerial skill. Why did he let Stephenson hit, no bunt attempt. Again, clueless on the game situation in front of him. Unable to make the tough call when it’s needed,.

  139. LDS

    Once again the Reds fail to take advantage of the opportunities. Unlike the sales mantra “always be closing”, they go with “no rush, we have plenty of time”. They are more fun than years past, but still not strong team – they need to hit better. It seems like a totally different team than the one that won 12 in a row. They are 5-11 for August – another 2nd half collapse.

  140. Moon

    I thought it was a mistake to put Ramos in for Benson. Benson can hit. Ramos has not really shown me anything in the majors.

  141. Dennis Westrick

    Reds 0-6 with RISP! That and the 10 strikeouts spells DOOM!

  142. Kevin H

    Fraley and India being hurt hasn’t helped. Stephenson doesn’t strike me as a person who can bunt. Also not sure how this loss is Bell’s fault.

    But I guess fans need someone to blame a loss on. I choose to tip my cap to the jays solid pitching.

    Oh and one more thing you wanted the “rookiescalled up” well here we are and some still complaining.

    • LDS

      Very simple @KevinH, when a team routinely exhibits the same faults, makes the same mistakes, the lack of urgency, etc. whether in baseball or the real world, it’s time for a management change. Watching Bell manage is like letting the orderly conduct brain surgery just because he’s the owner’s son.

  143. Dennis Westrick

    Reds back in 3rd place in the NL Central AND on the outside looking in as one of the 6 teams in contention for the 3 NL Wild Card spots!

  144. Rick

    I would not pull Benson for a career minor league player especially looking ahead to the 9th inning & a right hand closer.
    Bell has never grasped the analytical part of handedness is that you have to factor talent into the equation.

    • Dennis Westrick

      To understand talent you have to recognize talent! That is not a skill that Bell has mastered!

      • Rick

        He bought into to analytical concept without a respect for the talent required.
        Reminds me of the engineers that my company use to send me to train. Most could not comprehend the common sense/practical aspects of our industry, and most lacked the people skills to relate to the workers. It wasn’t in their manuel.

      • Moon

        Analytics will tell you the fastest why down from the top of a sky scraper is to jump out of a window. Analytics is a valuable tool but it it does not always the give you the right answer.

  145. Rick

    Response to Moon:
    Yes, just an extra tool.
    To paraphrase Braves Mgr Brian Snitker when asked about it. “We use it some”. He stressed the eye test is how he manages. Who’s hot who’s not, is a pitchers stuff working or not, is my pitcher tired, who needs a rest day were examples that he through out. Now there’s a novel idea huh?? Lol

    • Melvin

      Wow. Probably just coincidence that they’re considered the best team in baseball. A manager never has much to do with it. 😉

  146. Rick

    That’s +10,000 to Melvin, not myself!! Lol