The Reds hope to bounce back tonight in the pivotal third game of their current series with the Cubs at Wrigley Field. If you haven’t brought yourself to check the NL Central standings after the Reds debacle Tuesday, the Reds lead the Brewers by half a full game and the Cubs by 4 going into tonight’s action.

Starting Lineups


SP: Brandon Williamson


SP: Drew Smyly

1. Kevin Newman (2B)
2. Nick Senzel (3B)
3. Matt McLain (SS)
4. Spencer Steer (LF)
5. Christian Encarnacion-Strand (DH)
6. Joey Votto (1B)
7. Tyler Stephenson (C)
8. Stuart Fairchild (CF)
9. Will Benson (RF)
1. Nico Hoerner (2B)
2. Christopher Morel (DH)
3. Cody Bellinger (CF)
4. Dansby Swanson (SS)
5. Ian Happ (LF)
6. Yan Gomes (C)
7. Seiya Suzuki (RF)
8. Jeimer Candelario (3B)
9. Patrick Wisdom (1B)

Starting Pitchers

Pitcher IP ERA WHIP BB % K%
Brandon Williamson (L) 64.1 4.48 1.37 10.0% 17.8%
Drew Smyly (L) 108.0 4.50 1.35 7.9% 20.7%
Links: Brandon Williamson’s Stats | Drew Smyly’s Stats

Brandon Williamson

Rookie leftie Brandon Williamson has emerged as a key rotation member as the Reds attempt to navigate through the injuries to Hunter Greene and Nick Lodolo. A difficult month of June ended with Williamson’s ERA/FIP at .582/.586 through 8 MLB starts. His immediate future in MLB was being questioned.  However Williamson righted the ship in July by posting an ERA of 2.45 (3.97 FIP) in 5 starts, with 3 won by the Reds. The Reds hope to see a continuation of the July version of Williamson tonight.


RHH 213 47 15 1 10 21 38 .246 .324 .492
LHH 56 12 2 0 0 6 10 .250 .327 .292

Williamson is handedness neutral for batting average and OBP. However RH hitters slug at a much higher percentage against him than LH hitters.

Pitch Usage

4-Seam Cutter Slider Curve Change
Velo 92.8 88.9 81.8 73.1 84.3
Usage 36.9% 26.2% 16.0% 7.3% 13.6%

Williamson’s 4 seamer and cutter have the speed and action variation to work off of each other. The slider adds adds its double break action to speed variation off of either fastball. The straight change can lock up hitters thinking the speed tips it as a slider. The curve is a special delight to drop on unsuspecting hitters.

Drew Smyly

Drew Smyly is an impersonation of the crafty lefthander characterization. He is in his second decade as a MLB pitcher with a career ERA right on MLB average for his tenure.

After working strictly as a reliever back in 2013 (63 appearances), he has spent the balance of his career predominately as a starter (175 of 260 total career appearances). However, 2 of Smyly’s 21 appearances in 2023 have been out of the Cubs bullpen. Thus tonight marks his 20th start of the season.

Smyly is coming off a tough month of July. In five appearances (3 starts), he posted an ERA/FIP of 6.65/5.53 and allowed an OPS of .940 in 21.2 innings of work.


RHH 365 79 20 0 15 30 76 .242 .308 .442
LHH 103 30 9 2 3 7 21 .319 .369 .553

No, the red ink in Smyly’s split chart is not an accident.  He appears to have severe reverse splits.

Pitch Usage

Cutter Sinker Knuckle Curve
Velo 88.6 91.7 78.2
Usage 11.9% 40.8% 47.3%

Smyly has an unusual pitch repertoire. Per Statcast, he uses only 3 pitch types: and one of them, the knuckle curve, is a rare bird these days. He has enough speed variation between his two fastball types to keep batters unsure about which might be coming. The deceptive dual threat of the knuckle curve allows it to serve as both a breaking ball and change of pace. Look for him to use the cutter off the sinker and the knuckle curve off of either other pitches.


The first two games of the series have been blow outs, one to each team’s favor.  To protect his bullpen each losing manager left his starter in the game to throw a full length stint. Each manager also used a position player as a pitcher to finish out the game.

Consequently, neither team should feel any pressure or constraints involving their top flight leverage relievers.

News Worth Noting

Doug has posted his Reds Midseason Top 25 Prospect List  on our companion site, Red’s Minor Leagues.

There is good news about Hunter Greene.

When and Where

  • Game time: 8:05pm ET
  • Where: Wrigley Field
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio,
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 80°, partly cloudy, 1% chance of rain

NL Central Standings

TEAM   W/L   Win %   GB Last 10
Reds 59/50 .541 6-4
Brewers 58/51 .537 1.0 3-7
Cubs 54/53 .505 4.0 8-2
Pirates 48/58 .453 9.5 6-4
Cardinals 47/61 .435 11.5 3-7

336 Responses

  1. wkuchad

    Good to see a few pitchers in Doug’s updated prospect list. Seems like all season we’ve had position players busting at the seams to come up, but we’ve been forced to bring up pitchers early.

  2. Dennis Westrick

    Wow! That was ugly last night! We failed to get the ball in the end zone and had to settle for 3 field goals while the Bears racked up 20 points!

    Oops! Wrong sport! All kidding aside, last night is over and forgotten! Time to move on and play smart baseball tonight!

    After 8 games on this 10-game road trip we are at 4-4! Need to finish strong and leave the Windy City in 1st place!

    The good news is that the Bernies blew their game against the Washington Gnats on a throwing error in the bottom of the 9th inning!

    Hope the bats show up and score 9 runs again while holding the Stupid Cubs to NO runs like we did against the Dodgers!

    • Colorado Red

      I will take any score, as long as the Reds end up on top.

  3. Mark Moore

    Buckle up, RLN! Playing in Wrigleyville is always an adventure.

  4. Dennis Westrick

    See the Teacher’s Pet, aka Newman, is being rewarded after his abysmal performance last night with another start AND batting leadoff! Have my blood pressure cuff on my arm and prepared to rant until we wipe the smile off of Smyly’s face and the Cubs relief pitching change forces Bell to make some substitutions!

    And, as much as I love Votto, this would be a good game for him to sit out until later in the game if needed as a PH!

    • Jim Walker

      And back at 2B after that disastrous 1st inning last night. If he picks that 1st one, it is quite possibly a GIDP, and who knows what happens next

      • Dennis Westrick

        Just one simple question, Jim! Why?

    • Jason Franklin

      How the heck is Benson not leading off? The pitcher they are facing has reverse stats (lefty who stinks against lefties). Yet, Newman is batting. Heck.. why is Newman even playing? Isn’t there anyone better in AAA then this guy?


      • Mario

        As a matter of fact, Matt Reynolds is better than Newman and deserves a chance in place of this guy.

      • Melvin

        Have to admit Reynolds is having a pretty good year. .290/390/579

        18 HR – 63 RBI

    • Tom Reeves

      He just hit 2 HRs. Maybe let Bell do the deciding.

    • SteveAReno

      Kevin Newman keeps making people look foolish with him hitting doubles and scoring runs. I’m pulling for him. There was no error on Newman yesterday but suppose you all will say he is also the Scorekeepers pet.

  5. MBS

    Lively to the IL, good thing we didn’t grab another starter

      • Indy Red Man

        Just saw where we’ll miss Alcantara next week, but get Cueto next Tuesday. Miami is losing like crazy, but their lineup is kind of scary

    • Jason Franklin

      Did have anything to do with the manager pushing a guy who obviously didn’t have his best (or any stuff) last night for 4 innings? That was a bad move no matter the reasoning.

    • Rob

      And several articles praised Bell for sending him back to the mound for an extra 25 pitches. And we don’t need real starting pitcher help. Well the scenario many warned about is here. Bullpen has already worked 9 innings in this series. Another 5 tonight and they will be done. It wouldn’t surprise me if Bell brings up a reliever to replace Lively. Maybe Santillan and his 6 ERA at Louisville. Or Maybe Duarte but he didn’t fly back to Louisville until this morning. No fair saying we couldn’t foresee this. Oh yes you could or should have built yourself some slack. A rental was cheap.

  6. Indy Red Man

    Phillips 1 run thru 4 with Bats leading 4-1. Ramos with #8. I was a little impressed with Ramos to be honest. He had a .356 obp and gave a good at-bat but didn’t show any power. Big arm in RF too. Hopefully Stuey takes this opportunity, but Ramos can play a little. I have no idea why he wasn’t claimed because I see alot of hitters worse then him

  7. Jason Franklin

    I have this bad feeling it’s going to be someone we don’t want to see… Stoudt.. Kennedy…

    • Indy Red Man

      I typed Phillips. Kennedy is pitching tonight. I thought his stuff was actually decent, but of course Phillips has big time stuff

  8. Colorado Red

    Reds should claim Brent Honeywell, just DFA’d by the Padres.
    4.08 ERA, Right handed reliever. Better then some of what we have

  9. old-school

    India had heel pain for a month. Competitors never want to give up their spot so they play warrior when they are hurt. The dont ever admit it till they stink. Lively probably the same. Gimme the ball. Ill fight through it.

    • Colorado Red

      I think so, we saw that with Joey last year.( for example)

  10. J

    Is Lively actually injured, or did Bell just want another guy he can bring in to pitch an inning? I’m thinking it’s the latter, and they’re figuring they’re just as well off having someone else take Lively’s spot, so why not give Bell another 1-inning toy to play with between those starts.

    • Jason Franklin

      Could be, but are they allowed to do that? Are there some rules or something against it?

  11. DW

    It is fun having a team full of guys with speed and some pop. How many Reds are going to go 10 & 10 this year for HRs and SBs? Should have at least seven. There is a decent shot at eight, an outside chance of nine, and a prayer for ten. Current totals (HR/SB):
    Fraley (15/19)
    India (14/12)
    EDLC (7/17)
    McLain (11/8)
    Benson (7/10)
    Friedl (7/17)
    Steer (15/9)
    Senzel (8/5)
    Fairchild (4/9)
    Newman (3/7)

    • Jason Franklin

      I think 8 is a solid bet. It is very cool to have a team that can pop a bit and run. Just wish they didn’t strike out so much.

  12. old-school

    Newman. you cant stop him in the lead off spot against lefties.

  13. Indy Red Man

    Senzel fouls off ball 4 then takes strike 3.

    • LarkinPhillips

      At least he saw more than 1 pitch.

  14. Indy Red Man

    Cubs broadcast said Wrigley might be only park where that’s gone. What? Have they not been to GABP?

  15. Mark Moore

    Not a bad start. Wind blowing out tonight giving and extra 6 feet of carry. Good to get ahead of the Stupid Cubs in the 1st.

  16. old-school

    This is a bi game folks. Brewers blew a game and series agaisnt the Nats and Cub are cubs. Win this and reds can get buy Afro more days in first place.

  17. Old-school

    John Smiley with the back door hook for the K

  18. Indy Red Man

    That slurve is nasty tonight. Mixing it up nice early

  19. Indy Red Man

    CES strike 3. Belly no. Star power

  20. LarkinPhillips

    Struck bellinger out twice on that walk

    • LarkinPhillips

      Struck Swanson out on ball 3 there too. Just heard this is Tripp Gibson. He is from Mayfield ky (cardinal cou try) Dude is typical ump who is always on a power trip and Reds never get a good game from him.

  21. Hanawi

    Where in the world is the strikezone? Have to basically groove one to get a call

    • Mark Moore

      It’s looking pretty accurate to me.

  22. Mark Moore

    Aside from that one low pitch to Swanson called a ball, it appears the zone is tight and pretty much “on the box”. We’ll see if that continues through the game or if at some point the Bizzarro Zone appears.

  23. Indy Red Man

    It would be one thing if the ump just has a tight zone, but CES K was worse then 2-3 of Williamson’s “balls”. Kid has great stuff tonight though. Needs some quicker outs

    • VaRedsFan

      It comes down to what it usually comes down to.
      Ty can’t frame it to get the call.

  24. Indy Red Man

    Bell says Joey can hit this lefty

  25. Old-school

    Votto and bell on it with the reverse splits.


  26. Bet on Red

    BUT BUT BUT He’s old…. we need starting pitching…. BUT…..

  27. Melvin

    Votto not dead yet. 😀 BIG HR to CF!

  28. Tim

    Awesome to see Joey getting his groove back.

  29. Jason Franklin

    What do you guys think of going robot umps for the strikes and balls?

    • LarkinPhillips

      I prefer the challenge system that the minors were using. Seems like the middle ground but fixes what we just saw in the bottom of the first.

      • Melvin

        I concur. With the technology we have now there’s no reason not to use it.

    • Mark Moore

      Probably the challenge system. It makes more sense to me. But most nights, I’d prefer the full robo ump over the Chumpires we see time and time again.

  30. LT

    Votto homered off lefty? Man we’re going to WS.

  31. Jason Franklin

    We do need starting pitching though.

  32. old-school

    Votto to the cubs is Pujols to the Reds.

  33. Soto

    Is Votto the all-time greatest visiting hitter in Wrigley history? Does anyone have any stats? I don’t, but it sure seems like he just crushes every time he goes to Chicago. Hope it continues.

    • VaRedsFan

      He hit well in Houston too, as well as Milwaukee.

  34. old-school

    Votto to the cubs is Pujols to the Reds.

  35. Tim

    Does anyone have the exit velocity on Joey’s HR

  36. Old-school

    Senzel is a good 3b…Maybe they bring him bakc as a super utility guy..Hes really good with the glove

  37. VaRedsFan

    Exhibit 113 of why Senzel on 3rd and not Steer, when they are in the field together.

  38. Mark Moore

    Senzel can play 3rd regularly as far as I’m concerned.

  39. LT

    Williamson has all his pitches working so far. Problem I see is he starts nibbling once he gets to 2 strikes and that runs his pitch count up. Put these stinky Cubs hitters away with your best pitch, the cutter.

    • Redgoggles

      He’s missing real close. Good pitches, tip of the hat to Cubs hitters for not chasing.

  40. Soto

    Sweet pickin’ by Senzel. 3rd is definitely his best position.

  41. Beaufort Red

    LarkinPhllips said Senzel isn’t a ball player I beg to differ. So does Brantley.

    • LarkinPhillips

      He makes two good plays at third and he is suddenly relieved of other errors? I stand by the fact that he is a super athlete, but not a baseball player in the terms of making smart baseball plays like the nuance of swinging at the first pitch 4 straight ABs or taking terrible routes to fly balls or making numerous tootblans. I like senzel and hope I am proven wrong.

    • Mario

      What’s his career OPS? How about career WAR? Not good. I am glad he’s still here as a bench guy since he has hit LHP well this season. Bet Krall didn’t get any good offers for him.

      • Mario

        I say this because of all the Senzel defenders on here. I root for him to be successful in his life and on the field.

  42. Tim

    I really like how he varies his speed. 8 pitches that last AB and all different speeds with up to a 20mph difference

  43. old-school

    i would put Newman as the 26th roster guy and it s not close. He doesnt do anything elite. Fairchild gives you a 4th OF who can play 3 OF positions. Senzel plays a good 3b and has versatility and hits lefties.

    • LarkinPhillips

      Agree completely. SF is also faster for either a late game sub or defensive outfield replacement.

      • Melvin

        Yeah. Elite pinch runner late in the game.

  44. Tim

    I can tell you the scouting report on McLain. Throw him sinkers

  45. Mark Moore

    Nice track and catch by Benson. Made the runner freeze as well.

  46. Beaufort Red

    Old-school I agree. Especially Senzel and Newman. They know they’re generally going to come off the bench with an occasional start. It would be foolish to waste a younger player in that situation.

  47. Melvin

    Benson good play coming in. Maybe he’s learning to play deeper. 🙂

  48. Indy Red Man

    Bummer. Morel is a hacker. Give him something close and he’ll chase, but BW hung a changeup for him

  49. Tim

    If my calculations are correct then Joey is having his highest HRs per ABs of his career

    • Hanawi

      Saw on Twitter that he is on a 47 HR pace.

    • Melvin

      Not much doubt he will lead the team in HR by the end of the season.

      • Melvin

        ..and he just added another one!!! hahaha!!!

    • Tim

      Calculations are pretty simple now. Wow

  50. Old-school

    CES nice AB and legs out a double

    Smyly 71 pitches though 3.1

    • Melvin

      Votto “figuring things out” once again. His big thing now, he says, is to concentrate on not striking out. If he does that, he says, the OPS will be good. So far so good. 😀

  51. Soto

    CES is starting to look like a professional hitter. Just like I expected him to. It’s only the beginning. The kid is going to rake for a very long time.

  52. LT

    I do t know what is real and what is not anymore. Like a twightkight zone

  53. B-town Fan

    And most of the people on here say Votto’s washed up.

    • Melvin

      Not me. I don’t like crow. I’ve tasted it before. 😀

  54. Beaufort Red

    I’ve criticized Votto the last 2 weeks. I’m about ready to eat crow. If he gets hot, he could carry these young guys.

    • LT

      History says that he is hot for about 2-3 game stretch and then go on a cold spell. I hope it’s different this time but I doubt it. But enjoy while it lasts and I’ll join you in the crow eating if he stays hot long.

      • Hanawi

        Well, he’s been good for at least a week right now.

  55. Soto

    I would like to see Fairchild steal on the first pitch.

  56. Tim

    Stephenson isn’t the same guy he was pre injury

    • VaRedsFan

      I agree, but is probably still a league average hitting catcher.
      Defense…not so much.
      I wouldn’t be upset if he and Maile were a 50/50 split

      • Tim

        I believe Maile might have they upper hand on him post injury.

      • LarkinPhillips

        Tysteve is still young and I hope he bounces back, but he receives the ball very poorly and is now struggling on offense greatly.

  57. Mark Moore

    Got to love this inning. Unless you are Smyly.

  58. J

    Votto is really complicating matters for the “Votto needs to retire” crowd.

    And CES is doing the same for the “But I thought CES was supposed to be a good hitter” crowd.

    I’m even having trouble finding things to complain about with Bell so far today.

    Life is complicated.

  59. Old-school

    first team to 10 runs wins. August in Wrigley in a pennant race.

    Sign me up though.

      • Indy Red Man

        Only 4-6 mph though. They showed it on Cubs broadcast. 6 to left and 4 to right

  60. Mark Moore

    Anyone else notice these are all night games?

    Remember when you couldn’t do that in Wrigleyville?

    • Melvin

      Good for the players. Less stress on the body in the cooler night air.

  61. Indy Red Man

    I wasn’t going to give Votto credit for HR in a 5-0 game where LA quit, but tonight? And the first game on Monday? He’s been huge. Bell had a hunch even though he was 1-13 off Smyly

  62. Roger Garrett

    Just got in so let me apologize for my pregame comment that Joey against any lefty was risky.I stand corrected and say GO REDS and GO JOEY

    • Mario

      Don’t sweat it. I’ve been a Joey defender but the man needs his days off to be a more productive player.

  63. RedsGettingBetter

    This Cubs lineup is really pesky….The Reds should keep scoring…

  64. LarkinPhillips

    Newman 1 pitch 1 out.

    Senzel. Swings at first pitch curve. Chases two more balls to strike out. Again, not good fundamental baseball.

    • Beaufort Red

      Whatever. But he is a ball player.

      • LarkinPhillips

        So you think he is fundamentally sound? We will have to agree to disagree.

        On a side note, I always like reading your posts and enjoyed debating with you.

  65. old-school

    Well there you go from Sadak….…joey 26 bombs at wrigley. Most of any red and 3rd most of any Red at opposing park.

    johnny Bench 32 at Fulton County and Big klu 2nd at stadium I’ve already forgotten. Probably NY.

  66. Indy Red Man

    Need a Jim Walker Louisville report on Antone. 1 scoreless with a K tonight. I’d say 95 mph and above is good for velocity

    • Melvin

      Dummy me didn’t realize Tejay Antone was in AAA. That would be huge to get him back.

  67. Mark Moore

    Rookie growing pains. Got to hang in there.

    • old-school

      Dangerous to assume anything

    • Mark Moore

      Giolito got lit up earlier today

  68. Mark A Verticchio

    This Bell line up has to many holes.

    • Indy Red Man

      They didn’t go get a better righty stick then Newman and Senzel. That’s on Krall

    • wkuchad

      What holes? The only current holes are in are current starting pitcher rotation.

  69. Indy Red Man

    Williamson had such good stuff in the 1st. Kind of a bummer, better go get him soon

    • old-school

      He needs to get 15 outs. Hes got 14

    • LarkinPhillips

      Hopefully he scraps through 5. But no way more than that.

    • Old-school

      HE gets pulled .. there is going to be some major league AAA shuttle bullpen moves every 3 days the next few weeks

  70. Mark A Verticchio

    Would Mclain had gotten that ball ?

  71. Indy Red Man

    Lively trusted his heater too much. BW not enough. Both long HRs on offspeed. If you miss, have to miss down

  72. JB

    Morels plate coverage and swings reminds me of Javy Baez. Will chase anything but will crush your mistakes.

  73. Indy Red Man

    That’s bs. Farmer just dotted the corner on Morel for strike 3

    These #$& umps

  74. Soto

    Gotta make that catch in the ‘show”.

  75. Melvin

    I thought Fairchild should have had that.

    • Beaufort Red

      And defense is his forte. LOL

    • Melvin

      Not to pick on Fairchild but this is another reason I’m for EDLC in CF. When is the last time we had a CF with great speed, great range, great arm, and that could hit really well?

  76. Mark Moore

    Visiting teams play so tentative in that outfield. Plus the chance of injury is so high.

    • VaRedsFan

      That wasn’t a full speed play though. If he were running towards the wall I would agree.
      He was back there with plenty of time to get to the wall and catch it.

  77. Ted Alfred

    Well the umpires have been doing it all night he took strike three but he didn’t give it to the Reds he’s been giving that pitch to the Cubs P all night but not the Reds P and then Fairchild just totally blows that cstch in CF…that was not that hard of a catch… that was brutal

  78. wkuchad

    Fairchild, you have to make that play.

  79. Indy Red Man

    That Farmer 2 strike pitch got more plate then the K to CES

    We get cheated almost every game

  80. RedsGettingBetter

    The Reds pitching just put 4 zeroes in 13 innngs since yesterday

  81. Soto

    Couple bad breaks for Farmer. He threw strike three and probably should have had fly ball out. Big strike out against the Cubs best hitter. Good concentration and professionalism by Farmer.

    • JB

      Probable? The ball was in the air for two hours.

    • Ted Alfred

      This umpire tonight is really pissing me off. The important borderline strike calls are going for the Cubs and against the Reds pitchers… it’s just not right. Should still be 5-3 Reds except for the biased/bad hhome plate chumpire.

  82. old-school

    This series huge. Reds lost to the Brewers. If they want to play in the post season…next 2 games matter. they had this game. Gotta win or arent really better than the Brewers or Cubs. See what they do.

  83. Mark A Verticchio

    Bell has to realize that defense matters, I believe Freidl makes that play.

  84. Ted Alfred

    Yep, the misplay by Fairchild cost 2 runs…not good at all. He looked completely lost on a ball that he was under and that didn’t touch the wall… and he just wiffed on the catch. Friedl likely makes that play without much trouble. And it doesn’t make sense that Friedl wasn’t starting because Smiley’s splits were very tilted towards left-handed hitters getting the better of him all year.

    • Indy Red Man

      Freidl and Fraley both missed balls just like that on Monday

    • Melvin

      In defense of our outfielders the Cubs really NEED to pad that wall. It’s just ridiculous.

  85. Old-school

    Tired of listening to AAA stats . AAA pitching garbage . they play 6 games in a row against each other and it’s august. Anygood pitcher would be in MLB already.

  86. Dennis Westrick

    Bell just can’t help himself! Why not let Williamson see if he can finish the 5th!

    But No! Gotta start with RP Roulette hoping that all 4 or 5 RPs are on their game!

    So, we get the BAD Astronaut Farmer tonight and now a tie game giving the Stupid Cubs hope that they can win!

    And, don’t forget, we have Dream Weaver pitching tomorrow which will, in all likelihood, require more than one relief pitchers!

  87. Mark A Verticchio

    The minute the Cubs put a right handed pitcher in Bell should have put in Freidl and EDLC for defensive purpose. He never thinks ahead. Three more years of this poor manager.

    • Dennis Westrick

      Baseball is a thinking man’s game which is a challenge for Bell. Slow to react, never thinks ahead! But the players like him so that warrants 3 more years!

  88. old-school

    Farmer walks the leadoff hitter.

    • Melvin

      Just curious. Did that leadoff batter walk score? 🙂

  89. old-school

    Buck Farmer is Heath Hembree and Hunter Strickland

    He stinks .. Hes done. Hes terrible.

  90. Indy Red Man

    They have a ton of guys already and now Gomes is on fire

  91. Dennis Westrick

    OK, I’ve seen enough! Time to Clete! Maybe Weaver will throw a No-Hitter tomorrow!

  92. Votto4life

    So glad Krall didn’t make a trade for pitching. This pitching staff is going to be just fine.

  93. Mark A Verticchio

    Bottom line in a game the team really needed Bell put a C line up out there and it is burning him.

    • Ted Alfred

      As soon as I saw the lineup after yesterday’s game and starting line-up I thought the same thing. I can’t believe he’s starting the C line up two games in a row vs the red hot Cubs. Newman looks slow both games.. turning out into hits because he’s not getting to the balls quick enough hit to him at 2nd.

  94. RedBB

    Nick Krall has no idea how bad this Starting pitching staff is or how massively overused the BP is….this is on him.

  95. Soto

    A lot of game left but gotta stop the bleeding here. Can give up any more runs.

  96. Indy Red Man

    Williamson walked leadoff and he scored. Buck walks leadoff and he scored. Had a 3 run lead twice. I think we’re going 1-3 in Wrigley. They’re hot, but they have 6 with Atlanta and Milwaukee can’t do squat.
    We just have to take care of business at home and if we split this series then it’s a bonus

    • Melvin

      That’s a stat I’d like to see. How many times have the Reds walked the leadoff batter and that runner scored this year?

    • Ted Alfred

      I would imagine Bell will actually start our best lineup again tomorrow and there’s a good chance we’ll win and split in Chicago, which is fine. Im done watching this trainwreck tonight, cya tomorrow.

  97. JB

    Last night was the perfect example of why don’t the Reds have a long reliever. Cubs had a guy come out of the bullpen the first game and throw 50 pitches and kept them in the game and saved the bullpen. Last night Lively wasn’t on but the Reds were only down 5-2 early and still in it. Yet they send Lively out there, who obviously didn’t have it. Reds got a bunch of one inning guys and wonder why they are burned out. Last year they had Hoffman and Lorenzen use to pitch multiple innings when he came out of the bullpen. Now they have about 5 guys who lead the league in appearances. Not good

    • Ted Alfred

      I thought Kennedy the older guy who started the Nationals game in Wahington would have been perfect in that role and I thought he had the right demeanor for it too….but what do I know

  98. Jason Franklin

    Cubs will end up winning the Central.

  99. Soto

    Man, off the bat that looked catchable.

  100. Matt McWax

    I took a nap so I will watch as this game reaches double digit scoring on both sides, as long as the Cubs take out CFY (my shorthand for average pitchers that the Reds turn into studs – hint the C is for Cy and the Y is for Young).

  101. Indy Red Man

    Sims out of the 8th evidently? So Gibaut is the setup now? We better hope Antone is back? Maybe try Richardson and/or Phillips

  102. RedsGettingBetter

    The baseball seems to show to Krall the Reds pitching staff weakness since yesterday … Incredible how the Cubs are hitting even after scoring 20 runs…

  103. Roger Garrett

    I am out as well.Williamson walks the lead guy in the 5th,Fairchild gift wraps 2 runs,Buck walks the lead guy in the 6th and he scores just like the lead guy in the 5th.Stayed last night but not tonight.As old school said if we cant beat the Brewers and the Cubs well you know.

  104. Mark Moore

    It feels like it’s getting late. Both for me and our Reds. I’m afraid I need to wrap my commenting. Still not over by any stretch.

    Until that add on.

  105. Indy Red Man

    Sims allowing .153 I think and they’re just whaling on him

    • ryan

      Agree, if he never pitches again for the Reds it’s a plus

    • Indy Red Man

      1 infield hit and 1 floater over the infield. It happens.

  106. JB

    By time the season is over these guys are going to have about 70-80 appearances. That’s not good for this year or next.

  107. Indy Red Man

    Counting on Weaver to save the day. Uh-oh

  108. J

    The good news is that the Reds didn’t mortgage the future by adding a couple pitchers who could have helped win this year. And the players really enjoy playing for Bell, so his strategic decisions don’t matter. It’ll all work out great, I guess.

  109. JB

    Hey Indy, these bullpen guys remind you of David Hernandez?

    • Indy Red Man

      No, he was hopeless at the end. These guys have been really good except for Farmer. We should’ve went out and got Brook Raley or somebody though

      • JB

        These guys arms will fall off like Hernandez at this pace.

  110. LT

    Sims just needs to get hit around before he realizes that he has a game to pitch. It’s like he sleep walks his way into it. Smh

  111. J

    Maybe Sims is about to have a “shoulder strain” so they can bring up a new toy for Bell to play with for a few days.

  112. VaRedsFan

    The Fairchild non-catch was the turning point in this game

  113. ryan

    Side rant why does Children’s (the only game in town) need to waste money on advertising?

    • J

      When the Reds hit well and run the bases well, it’s supposedly because they like playing for Bell so much, and he makes them want to play really hard. Ok, but where is all this desire when Fairchild makes that rather weak effort to catch the fly ball, Senzel can’t make a relatively easy (for him) throw to first, Newman makes a rather weak effort to play that ball yesterday, Elly has continued refusing to take pitches out of the zone, guys continue to strike out on check swings and called third strikes, nobody knows how to move a runner over, relief pitchers keep walking the first batter they face, etc. etc. Does playing hard only apply to hitting and running the bases?

      • J

        Sorry, obviously not meant as a reply to your rant. (That would be a really weird reply…)

  114. Melvin

    Defense not so good tonight. Bad play by Senzel. Cost another two runs.

    • JB

      Not to mention the Cubs are stealing everything. The Reds are not…. Again

      • Melvin

        Yep. Not playing “our game” tonight so far. Hopefully we can still come back. Not too often you can say defense lost the game but that’s pretty much the case tonight so far. At least it’s playing a big part. Still time to redeem ourselves. 🙂

    • LT

      I think we got rattled a bit tonight. Give credit to the Cubs though. They put balls in play, forced out to make defensive plays and we just didn’t

  115. Indy Red Man

    Senzel not having his best night. I say pitch Maile again and they’ll be tired of rounding the bases vs Weaver

  116. RedsGettingBetter

    these last 2 games makes me remember when they played at Coors field…Holly sh…

  117. Indy Red Man

    Fairchild was in the ivy? Idk…could’ve caught it but I said the same thing Monday.

    I thinking turning point was borderline 2-2 to Morel called a ball. Same pitch they rung up CES on in the 1st

    • VaRedsFan

      That’s on Ty…refuses to frame pitches.
      It changes EVERYTHING.

  118. ED#44

    Shaky defense is making subpar pitching even worse. Last night and tonight. It is very hard to watch.

  119. Mark A Verticchio

    The team looks lost and a lot of that is on Bell and his crazy line up construction. Another issue is Stephenson behind the plate, he is horrible.

    • Indy Red Man

      5 runs by the 5th? He can’t win with RLN.
      Pull Elly he stinks. Sits him and he’s still wrong

  120. Erik the Red

    Some many bad things have happened tonight. We are still a long way from being a team that compete for championships. Need starters that go 6 innings consistently. Need to play a lot better defensively. Need a bullpen with at least 2 or 3 shutdown relievers. Also manager needs to step his game up. We are a lot better than I expected this year except for Lodolo and Greene.

  121. Hanawi

    Friedl has been mostly awful in July. Rather just let Fairchild hit.

    • Hanawi

      Of course. I’m claiming credit for the reverse jinx!

      • Hanawi

        It obviously only happened because I posted.

  122. RedBB

    Nick Krall thinks he is a genius..he is not. Any idiot could see this pitching staff needed massive help

  123. Gpod

    Stevenson refuses to take a walk…this at bat was typical…gets up 3-1 & then swings at ball 4…then rolls out weakly…sick of watching it

  124. Indy Red Man

    Cubs down to 3. I recommend they win tomorrow

  125. JB

    Taking pitches is not in the Reds criteria.

  126. Ron

    Brewers have given the Reds a chance to build a bigger lead in the NL central but they can’t take advantage of it. Very very frustrating.

    Need to put the best team on the field (on a regular basis) regardless of who’s pitching.

    • Melvin

      Well an argument can be made tonight that our “subs”, Fairchild, Newman, and Senzel, haven’t played their best this game.

  127. Hanawi

    If they never throw another strike to Happ or Yelich I would be very happy.

  128. Indy Red Man

    HR derby. Ridiculous tonight

    Well we better ramp it up vs Miami, Arizona, and SF. That’s 10 heads-up with wildcard competition and that’s where we might be headed. SD only 4.5 back too

  129. JB

    The Cubs are killing Reds pitching. Weaver will throw a gem tomorrow because it’s baseball.

  130. JB

    I guess Young is the mop up guy tonight.

  131. JB

    Outfield defense has been exposed this series. Somebody put a fork in the ball

    • Melvin

      Can’t say the infield has been good either can we?

  132. Jeff Morris

    Reds bullpen tired and worn out, it shows tonight. Also, Lively and Wiliamson not going to go 6 innings with 3 runs or less every time out. Lets hope this is just a off night or bad night for the Reds.

  133. Melvin

    Senzel. Oooh boy. That’s was six feet over Votto’s head that time.

    • Melvin

      …and another error on the next play. Get him out of there although it’s probably too late now.

  134. Tim

    Cubs go out and get Candelario from Gnats to improve their team before playing their division leaders. He has three hits and three runs in this game. As I said in previous posts, our competition got better before the trade deadline and we really didn’t. I certainly hope our returning IL guys can stop the bleeding

  135. DHud

    Can Senzel hit the showers already please

  136. LarkinPhillips

    Why is sadak so excited about the cubs kicking the crap out of us?

  137. J

    As I said above (inadvertently responding to a different comment), I wish I saw evidence of the Reds wanting to play hard for Bell in the form of taking more walks, not striking out on check swings and called third strikes, making better efforts to catch fly balls at the wall and block grounders rather than swiping at them, executing situational hitting, attempting to steal bases when it makes sense to steal bases, not walking every first batter you face, making sure the runners are being held on base, etc. etc. Every time they score runs — especially in comeback wins — we hear about how hard they play, and supposedly this is because Bell is such an excellent motivator, but there’s more to winning games than hitting the ball hard and running hard from first to third. I wish I saw maximum effort in all of these other areas, but I don’t. I see a lot of mental errors and sloppy baseball, which I think a different manager would be able to do something about.

    But they’ll still be in first place after today, and I’m told the pitching will be fine, so no worries.

    • Hanawi

      When there is no accountability, you get nights like this

      • J

        But they run really hard around the bases whenever they get a chance, and apparently this means Bell is pushing all the right motivational buttons. Never mind the fact that nobody wants to walk or learn how to bunt or move a runner over or throw strikes or hold runners on base or frame pitches or play fly balls correctly… they run really hard from first to third so they play hard.

    • Erik the Red

      Agree. I believe it is okay to let theses guys receive some tough love. Most of these guys will make more in a year than some of us will see in our life. All of these guys want to see the big market money eventually. They need to learn and play each game like it is the most important game of their life.

  138. west larry

    Are the cubs going to score 20 again tonight? This is embarrassing.

  139. RedsMonk65

    Wow, these Cubs hitters are relentless. Our pitchers not up to the task — 2 nights in a row. Disappointing.

    • RedsMonk65

      Also not up to the task, I should add — our defense.

    • Melvin

      He’s worn out after last night maybe? lol Maybe try EDLC. That would be interesting. Don’t want him to get hurt though on a comebacker.

      • Daytonnati

        Let Senzel pitch and get some payback 🙂

  140. Melvin

    Okay. Got out of that one…finally. We only now need eight to tie…in two innings. 🙂

  141. Indy Red Man

    Baseball is a crazy game. Williamson Kd the side 1st inning and was mixing it up beautifully. They still score a million again

  142. RedsGettingBetter

    One of the worst games this season, even worse than yesterday’s

  143. RedsMonk65

    Three errors alone by Senzel tonight. Not good.

    • VaRedsFan

      Just as we had all praised his great defense at 3B.
      It surely got into his head mentally….which shouldn’t happen.

  144. Mark A Verticchio

    Anybody that thinks tomorrow is going to be any different is dreaming. The Reds needed pitching and got nothing. The way things are going by the time some of the pitchers come back it won’t matter. Krall really let this team down big time and now it is starting to show on the field. Big game tomorrow and Weaver is pitching.

    • Votto4life

      Enjoyed the next 24 hours my friend. It’s probably our last day in first place for awhile.

      This seems eerily like 2021. At least Nick Krall got us two relief pitchers that year.

    • Erik the Red

      How do we know if Krall failed the Reds or the Bobs?

      • Rob

        Money was not an issue in many of the possible trade scenarios. $2.5M Chapman went for 2 non top 30 prospects. Other teams gained solid starting pitching for Prospect #21 and #25. Many folks on here believe he didn’t need to trade for pitchers. I wasn’t one of them. Time will tell.

  145. Votto4life

    Reds will likely to be 7 games out before Hunter Greene throws his next ML pitch.

    Just a shame Nick Krall could not help this team at the deadline. I actually don’t blame Krall. My guess is he wasn’t permitted to add payroll.

    Regardless, I think the Cubs are now the best team in the NL Central. Probably, the second best team in the National League.

    • Indy Red Man

      Let’s see their half derriere starters do vs Atlanta this weekend first

      • Indy Red Man

        I’m thinking Over….like wayyyy Over

  146. Indy Red Man

    Agree with everyone on Stephenson. Wouldn’t be upset if Maile got half the starts in a little competition to start

  147. Protime

    A subpar marginal manager gets a three year extension, a general mgr that fails to see the dire need for a proven starter, a tired bullpen working on fumes. So much for not trading and basically standing still when your rivals, bolster their chances by doing so. The chickens have come home to roost. Pathetic!

  148. Melvin

    McLain just keeps on going man. Good hitter/player.

    • Votto4life

      By far the best player on the team.

  149. Mario

    It got ugly quick. Defense cost the team tonight.

  150. Jason Franklin

    Cubs have so far scored 39 runs in 3 games versus the Reds. It’s pretty sad. I am about to stop watching the boys for awhile. Maybe they will turn it around in the meantime? Good night everyone.

    • Jason Franklin

      And for the love of … Maile again. Maybe they will reach 20 runs in back to back games. That may be a record?

  151. Roger Garrett

    Just a terrible performance by the pitchers and the defense again tonight.Four errors on 4 straight at bats by the Cubs is a very telling sign that this team is not ready to play.I know they love Bell but with his new 3 year deal he can afford to close the door and kick some backsides.This is little league the last two nights and he needs to let them know it is not acceptable.

    • J

      If he kicked backsides they wouldn’t love him as much. He’ll quietly tell them he’s disappointed and looks forward to a better performance tomorrow, and we’ll see more of the same. And the players will continue to love him because he’s “got their backs.”

      • Melvin

        “If he kicked backsides they wouldn’t love him as much.”

        You guys are cracking me up tonight. 🙂

  152. Mark A Verticchio

    I think Krall just got a little to cocky without looking at the big picture and boy is he paying for it.

    • Rob

      We will have to see the impact Krall no trades had on this team. I wouldn’t worry about Aug, 1-2. Let’s see where we are in a week or so. I know the party line from the Reds dugout is that we kept the crew together. Words don’t count. The 6-8 games after tell the tale. He certainly knew we had a burnt out bullpen and needed some longer starts. But one time through the rotation means nothing. Check back after next Friday and see if we have gained ground on 10 over 500. Saying I don’t know the answer and the data will tell what the dugout believes. But I know a couple of us preached about bullpen workload overload…..The last few games have not been kind to Krall.

  153. west larry

    here comes Maile in to pitch. I guess the cubs are going to go for 20 runs.

  154. Melvin

    haha Maile throwing batting practice. HR first pitch. These guys saw him last night. They’re ready. lol

  155. Rick

    Insult to injury. Maile again. Pitiful
    Bell’s thinking of a group hug after the game to show the love.

    • Melvin

      “Bell’s thinking of a group hug after the game to show the love.”

      hahaha 😀

  156. Melvin

    This is going to hurt Maile’s confidence in his pitching. 🙂

    • Melvin

      Off the top of the wall. ALMOST another one. lol

      • Daytonnati

        Has to be embarrassing NOT to jack one.

    • Rick

      He’ll be unavailable tomorrow night.
      Duarte probably tosses 7 innings tomorrow after Weaver.

    • Rick

      He had a clean era up until last night )

  157. Protime

    Another football score the Bears are back!

    • ryan

      Bobby Douglass with 100 mph passes that no one could catch!

  158. Votto4life

    Hopefully Luke Weaver will get a bit deeper in the game tomorrow. I’m not sure Luke Maile can pitch three days in a row.

  159. west larry

    Come on! Ten to tie. Despite all it’s speed, this team resembles last year’s team for the last several days.

  160. Mark A Verticchio

    This young team may have a hard time getting over these last two, most likely three, nights. Ashcraft has a must win start Friday night. They will most likely go home 7 over for a 6 game home stand need to win at least 4.

  161. Votto4life

    On the bright side, we have David Bell locked in through 2026.

    • Melvin

      😀 Cut it out guys. You’re killing me.

  162. Rob

    Did we consider that Maile May not be able to pitch tomorrow. Like 40 pitches in the last 2 days. Needs a couple days off.

    • Melvin

      Better send someone down and bring up another catcher/pitcher. 🙂

    • west larry

      He was one of our better relievers tonight, That 65 mph fastball ,,,

  163. J

    Moll: “Please send me back. That team was better.”

  164. Indy Red Man

    Im glad the players don’t sweat it like you guys. 20-9 or 3-2. What’s the difference? Loss is a loss. Win tomorrow and mission accomplished. I wasn’t saying 2-2 after the Reds win game 1. Their lineup is no joke and they’re hot.

    • Indy Red Man

      Correction. I was thinking 2-2 after Game 1 or 3-1 at best

  165. J

    The Reds are going to have to put Maile and on the IL and bring up Chuckie Robinson so he can pitch a couple innings tomorrow.

  166. Michael B. Green

    Can’t wait for the pitching help to come at the end of August. Not getting any help is the biggest blunder in a very long time. If we were Sellers, we certainly would have seen deals in abudance. #notseriousaboutwinning

    • Mark A Verticchio

      The end of August may be to late, thanks Krall.

  167. Tim

    Reds hit nine groundouts. Cubs 2. There has to be a different approach.

  168. Brad

    Are the Reds pitcher’s puting it on batting tee’s or what? 36 runs in 2 days. This is the stuff that happens when you wear out your bullpen.

  169. Jim Delaney

    So Lively was pitching hurt yesterday and Reds front office decides to not acquire a starter. The manager decides to keep an injured pitcher in game. Manager makes a mockery of the game by allowing a non pitcher to be in the mound to throw batting practice. Reds will run out Luke Weaver tomorrow to allow Cubs a 3rd straight game to score ten plus runs.. Amazing how Reds ownership and front office don’t care about winning… You are in first place at trade deadline with desperate need for pitching and a loaded farm system and you do nothing.. I don’t understand it… Did ownership not give okay to take on any salary or do they really believe they are just
    running a non profit and winning doesn’t matter…