Fresh off of a sweep of the Washington Nationals, the Cincinnati Reds will roll into Milwaukee tonight to take on the Brewers to end the first half of the season. Cincinnati and Milwaukee are the top two teams in the National League Central, with the Reds holding a 2-game lead and looking to continue their winning ways on the road. First pitch is scheduled for 8:10pm ET.

Starting Lineups

Cincinnati Reds

Milwaukee Brewers

TJ Friedl – CF Christian Yelich – LF
Matt McLain – SS William Contreras – DH
Jonathan India – 2B Willy Adames – SS
Elly De La Cruz – 3B Owen Miller – 1B
Jake Fraley – RF Blake Perkins – RF
Joey Votto – 1B Andruw Monasterio – 2B
Spencer Steer – LF Brian Anderson – 3B
Will Benson – DH Victor Caratini – C
Luke Maile – C Joey Wiemer – CF
Andrew Abbott – LHP Corbin Burnes – RHP

Starting Pitchers

Andrew Abbott 37.1 1.21 0.88 13 42
Corbin Burnes 101.1 4.00 1.14 35 96
Links: Andrew Abbott’s Stats | Corbin Burnes’s Stats

Andrew Abbott

Coming off of the best start in his career where he struck out 12 batters, Andrew Abbott will be looking to continue what he’s been doing since he was called up last month – dominate. In his big league debut he faced the Brewers and allowed one hit in six shutout innings. A month later he’ll face them on the road.

Abbott has been very good against right-handed hitters so far, holding them to a .149 average. They are walking at a solid clip, but they aren’t hitting for much power or making much contact. Lefties are actually hitting for a slightly higher average in the rare case they get a chance to face him, but they haven’t walked yet. They also haven’t had an extra-base hit yet.


RHH 115 15 1 0 4 13 32 .149 .244 .277
LHH 28 5 0 0 0 0 10 .179 .179 .179

Pitch Usage

4-seam Curve Slider Change
Velo 93.0 80.6 82.9 86.8
Usage 51% 18% 15% 16%

Corbin Burnes

After being one of the best pitchers in baseball from 2020-2022, Burnes has taken a step backwards in 2023. His walk rate is up and his strikeout rate is way down from where it had been the last two seasons. He’s still an above-average pitcher, but not on par with the Cy Young caliber pitcher he had been.

Burnes has shown reverse splits this year Over the last few years that’s been the case, but to a lesser extreme. Lefties simply aren’t getting much of anything done against him this season as they are hitting .194 without much power at all. Right-handed hitters are only hitting .233 against him, and they don’t walk nearly as often as lefties do, but they are showing a solid amount of power against him.

RHH 207 44 6 0 9 13 43 .233 .295 .407
LHH 211 36 4 1 4 22 53 .194 .275 .290

Pitch Usage

4-seam 2-seam Change Slider Curve Cutter
Velo 95.5 95.4 89.3 88.2 79.9 94.4
Usage 1% 9% 13% 7% 17% 54%

When and Where

  • Game time: 8:10pm ET
  • Where: American Family Field
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio,
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: They play in a domed stadium

News and Notes

Elly De La Cruz is everywhere

An explosion on the farm

Last night the Reds Double-A affiliate, the Chattanooga Lookouts, scored a Southern League record 29 runs as they blew out the Rocket City Trash Pandas 29-3. As you can imagine, there were some records in the game – which you can read all about here – but there was also the performance from Andy Yerzy. He went 4-5 with a double, two home runs, two walks, four runs scored, and he had nine RBI. Not a bad night, huh? Oh, but that’s not all. Yerzy also pitched in the 9th inning. He struck out two batters in a shutout inning to finish the game.


Team W L GB Playoff Odds
Reds 49 39 0.0 40.4%
Brewers 47 41 2.0 51.7%
Cubs 40 46 8.0 8.8%
Pirates 40 47 8.5 2.3%
Cardinals 36 51 12.5 5.8%
Playoff Odds via Fangraphs

257 Responses

  1. Hanawi

    Feels like a big 6 game stretch against the Brewers here. Just have had the Reds’ number. They took 3 of 4 earlier this and I still think back to the post-ASG series from a couple of years ago where they swept the Reds and killed a lot of momentum (and injured Castellanos). Reds need to split these 6 games at least.

    • Rob

      I think they are important games but not of the highest order. Look, we are pitching Weaver and Lively. 2-4 would be fine but I do not know the Brewers can tolerate a 2-4. Let’s just show up and have some fun and look like we have been here before. There is a lot of baseball to play after the 6th game.

  2. Melvin

    This is our main nemesis. Got to give everything we’ve got. 🙂

  3. Melvin

    Giving Stephenson a day off rather than DHing him is a good move. Opening up the door to releasing/trading a third catcher.

  4. Steve Schoenbaechler

    After this series, go home, go to bed, pull the cover over your head, and simply sleep. Rest. Maybe get up for a margarita here and there, listen to some Jimmy Buffet. But, get some rest.

    • AllTheHype

      “Who’s Jimmy Buffet?” – Reds early 20 somethings want to know.

  5. Chris

    How can this not be an amazing game? Last two Friday’s (Braves and the Padres) have been absolute amazing games, with both being Reds wins. Let’s go for 3 straight amazing Friday wins (although, I’d be fine with this one being a little easier).

  6. JB WV

    Rookie pitchers are tested every outing. This is a big one. So far Mr. Abbot has been more than up to the challenge. Hostile crowd, arch nemesis, both teams fighting for first. Let’s go

  7. Steve Schoenbaechler

    I’m really just upset the game doesn’t start till after 8.

    • Melvin

      This just in Steve. Reds call up CES and he’s starting at 3B tonight!…..Just kidding. 😉 haha

      • Melvin

        We all have to have a sense of humor on here. 😀

    • Steve Schoenbaechler

      Not everyone. Others are much funnier.

      • Melvin

        Haha Well if you could look at me you might laugh. I always do when I look in the mirror. hahaha Go Reds! 🙂

  8. Cincinnatus Rex

    The timing worked out great for Abbott to open a series against the Brewers. It would be an awfully terrible night for him to regress to the mean, so here’s hoping he can be the pitcher that we’ve come to expect.

    Over the past few years, the Brewers have been the personification of frustration for Reds fans. They’re usually not good enough to frighten the rest of the league, but they’re cluelessly scrappy enough to block our road to success. I would say the playoff odds (listed in this article) are pretty insulting to the current strength of this Cincinnati team, but history says that the Reds might just go deer-in-the-headlights this weekend — let’s hope not. In the words of Mufasa, “Remember who you are.”

    GO REDS.

    • Chris

      Yeah, the playoff odds aren’t even trying to be on target at this point. How is it the Reds are at just 40% compared to that of the Brewers. Reds have a better run +/- ratio, and I believe they have an easier schedule for the rest of the year as well. Interesting.

      • greenmtred

        The answer to the query is: starting pitching, lots of rookies, and preseason expectations. I trust that they’re wrong.

  9. Tar Heel Red

    If they haven’t already, the Reds should look into trading Ricky Karcher (DFA’d) to the Red Sox for LH Ryan Sheriff (also DFA’d). They are desperate for a second lefty in the pen.

    • Jim Walker

      Ironically, if they haven’t both already cleared waivers, it might not be possible because they went off the respective 40 man rosters when DFA but unless they have cleared waivers would require a 40 man spot on their new team.

  10. JA

    Many interesting series this weekend:

    Reds – Brewers (seems brewers send their best available line-up tonight)0

    Braves – Rays
    Phillies – Marlins
    Oriols – Twins
    Mariners – Astros
    Angels – Dodgers
    ….. and …

    Mets – Padres , the looser is highly probable to be done this season….

  11. old-school

    Article in the enquirer today with lots of Derek Johnson quotes that suggest Abbott does have an innings limit. Abbott say the Reds have a 20% + max limit for innings in the minors and he feels really good at 118 last year and year before so that puts him at 140-150 ish. Johnson says the best strategy to maximize his availability is lengthen the time between starts.

    DJ also says timing of Greene and Lodolo return may mitigate need for big acquisitions but it depends on when they come back. Interesting to see if Reds go to a 6 man rotation and take advantage of AS break to lengthen the rotation a few weeks and use the AAA shuttle bus for the bullpen to get to the deadline.

    • Steve Schoenbaechler

      Definitely interesting. Thank you.

    • MCT

      Concerning Abbott
      That contradicts what Nick Krall said in a video interview on the other day. Both men can’t be correct.

  12. Klugo

    Ok. Here we go. It wasn’t that long ago that we were in a somewhat similar situation with the Brewers on the docket before and after the ASG. They played dirty, throwing inside and as far as I’m concerned, intentionally hitting Castellanos, breaking his hand. If they didn’t sweep us that series and the next, they damn well nearly did and we never caught them. I know most of those Reds are gone now, but not all of them are and this fan remembers.
    Time to return the favor and take the fight right to them.

  13. Lid

    I think for Abbott .. can they skip him for 3 starts as if he went on the IL hopefully not disrupting his season? Man, Elly is blowing up!

    • Steve Schoenbaechler

      I think so, also. Maybe, like, the last game of a series and we don’t need it to win the series.

      Or, a game against an Oakland A’s equivalent, where we probably don’t need to worry that much.

  14. Beroader

    I’m going to the game tonight. I will try to bring home a W. I’ll post any observations worth sharing later!

    • Melvin

      Alright but we expect A LOT out of you. haha Have a great time. 🙂

  15. Dennis Westrick

    Regardless of what happens in this series, or, for the rest of the season for that matter, what this 2023 Reds team has done so far is truly remarkable! They have certainly exceeded my expectations in what was supposed to be a rebuilding year!

    A big shout out to the manager, yes, Bell, and his coaching staff in getting this team to 10 games over 500 with all the new players, injuries to starting pitchers, etc.!

    Hoping we can continue the winning streak tonight and leave Milwaukee on Sunday still leading the NL Central Division!

    • Jim Walker

      I think a bigger shout out is due to the guy who have done the heavy lifting on the field day in and day out often being switched in positions or sat out for days at a time because of which side of a platoon they play on but then coming off the bench and performing like every day players.

      • Dennis Westrick

        That goes without saying, Jim! The players have done everything they’ve been asked to do and then some! Ty Steve has made a remarkable comeback from his medical issues as well as the old man Votto! The rookies have added a level of energy to this team that we haven’t seen in a while! The bullpen has improved as the season has gone on! All good stuff!

      • Tom Reeves

        The players have done what was asked of them – exceptionally well – but someone has to ask and that person is David Bell. And, the players have to want to answer “yes.”

        Credit all around.

    • earmbrister

      Agreed Dennis on all points!!!

    • old-school

      I agree Dennis. Senzel had a season defining game yesterday after he won a NL player of week earlier this year. He has contributed. I cant begin to quantitate the value of 3 catchers on pitching but it seems that isn’t ending and Stephenson seems to be improving as the season goes on. Newman seems like the odd man out as he isnt a first baseman against lefties or a lead off hitter.

      Let’s see what 5 pm looks like on Sunday.

      I was at Sonny Gray v Corbin Burnes 2 years ago in a make or break series after the AS break and Burnes was unhittable and Bernies killed us. Huge game.

      • Old-school

        Seen this horror movie in person

    • Steve Schoenbaechler

      100% agreement, Dennis. Regardless of how much any of us state about any mistakes made, what this entire organization has done has been remarkable. The players have performed above and beyond the call of duty. The coaches have done an excellent job of coaching and instruction. I don’t know of the FO could have done a better job of piecing together a pitching staff for this long without making any trades.

      As well as, the FO has seemingly created a minor league system/prospects that seem to be one of the better ones in the league. Any current “standings” how our prospect compare with the rest of the league? I know I could check it out. But, I didn’t want to go counting.

    • Brian Rutherford

      Great Post Dennis. Love the positive energy going into the biggest series of the season so far.

      Kudos to the entire organization for a fun and entertaining season.

    • Dennis Westrick

      Interesting! Maybe a trade in progress? Doubt if we can get Ohtani for Marte straight up! We can dream!

      • Melvin

        Sure. If the Angels pay all of his salary Big Bob says. 🙂

    • MBS

      I would say futures game, but it seems early for that. IDK

    • Hanawi

      He’s playing in the Futures Game representing the Reds this weekend

  16. Brian Rutherford

    Marlins optioned Eury Perez today. He’s young and they are going to manage his innings this year. How many more starts will the Reds let Abbot make? Do they shut him down and hope they make the post season?

    Tough decisions for this team. Tough decisions.

  17. Dennis Westrick

    IMO, the key to beating the Bernies tonight is score early, run up Burnes pitch count and get into the Milwaukee bullpen sooner than later! Never thought I’d say this but I believe the Reds bullpen is better than the Brewers at this point in the season!

  18. Dennis Westrick

    Always looking for a reason to dislike Craig Counsell, but, just can’t do it! He & I have something in common! We are both alumnus of the University of Notre Dame!

    As a card-carrying Catholic, it doesn’t mean I’m not praying for a Reds win tonight!

    • Steve Schoenbaechler

      I know what you mean. Also, if you haven’t seen it, I do suggest seeing ESPN’s short story on “The Turkey Runs at Midnight”. The title sounds really weird. But, it is a really good story. Seriously. And, Counsell does play a part.

      • Dennis Westrick

        Thanks for the suggestion, Steve! I’ll see if I can find it!

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        Initial look, I can’t find it. You might check “The Chicken Runs at Midnight”.

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        Pretty sure now, “The Chicken Runs at Midnight”.

  19. Steve Schoenbaechler

    Wasn’t Byrnes curveball a killer pitch? I want to say he had some breaking ball that the hitters just couldn’t connect very well with. Or, it might simply have been last year with that pitch, not such a good year with it this year.

  20. TJ

    I keep thinking the Reds are going to get Lance Lynn. Until yesterday he hadn’t shown much. That’s why I thought he’d come cheap for draft capital and the Reds would want an innings eater. With better defense behind him he might be a good pick up. Just something that’s been rattling around in my head. No idea if either side is interested in a trade.

    • Dennis Westrick

      Lynn killed the Reds when he pitched for the Dirty Birds! He is a little “long-in-the-tooth” as they say! Despite that, he could help in the second half of the season when the young Reds starting pitchers approach their inning limits!

    • Steve Schoenbaechler

      Two things with him:

      1) I was thinking about picking him up, also, today. I mean, he is a veteran who has been to the playoffs, won in the playoffs, etc. So, he could be a veteran presence, but. . .
      2) He just hasn’t shown much this year. It might just be a change of environment he needs or something.

      I could see us going after him. I wouldn’t give up anything important for him.

  21. Dennis Westrick

    Do we need to send out an APB for Mark Moore tonight! Hope he weighs in later!

    • Melvin

      Probably having an early dinner. 🙂

    • Old-school

      He blew a tire on his “evening walk”.

    • Mark Moore

      I’m here. Out for a birthday dinner for DD#1 and the entire family. Watched from the first pitch.

      • Melvin

        Where are your priorities mister? 😉

  22. Steve Schoenbaechler

    Pretty sure now, “The Chicken Runs at Midnight”.

  23. MBS

    Our only Rule 5 Draft pick Left hand hitting Blake Sabol, has played 27 LF, 32 C, 8 DH so far this year for the Giants. He’s got a .251 BA, and a .751 OPS with 10 HR. I gotta think you could add 2 or 3 to that HR total if he played here instead of San Francisco.

    That 3rd C wouldn’t seem like such a problem if ours had this versatility, and production. I like most of Krall’s moves, but at the time, and now in hindsight I think this was one where he messed up.

    • MBS

      BTW we have a guy named Free, and another Trautwein in AA that seem are “hybrid catcher”. Free has been playing almost exclusively 1B this year, and Trautwein has a more balanced split between the OF and C, much like Sabol. I am hoping that one of these 2 can become viable options on the 2024 Reds.

  24. LarkinPhillips

    50+ comments and the game hasn’t even started. Glad to see I am not the only one fired up for tonight. Let’s go Reds! Winning this first game really puts the pressure on thr Brewers.

  25. JB

    Playing from behind. We got them right where we want them.

  26. LT

    It’s an ambush, but Reds are a resilient bunch and I expect them to throw some punches back very soon here.

  27. Mark Moore

    We all kind of expected this from Abbott at some point. Good thing we’ve stemmed the bleeding at only 2 runs via those 3 doubles.

    I’ll comment again in a bit, but for the moment the cake and ice cream (and my wife) are calling.

  28. Daytonnati

    Burnes through two with 18 pitches.

    • Melvin

      Need to at least have some long ABs to make him work.

  29. Moon

    Brewers came to play today. They were ready for this game and series. Reds just need to keep plugging and learn. This is a big series and akin to playoff baseball. Something our Reds have not experienced in some time

    • Ted Alfred

      Abbott doesn’t have his usual stuff or as usual control and he’s throwing a lot of balls right over the middle of the plate. The Brewers are not a very good hitting team overall. The first game is starting out great for them at home, their #1 pitcher is throwing the ball reall6 well and they’ll probably win tonight…maybr they’ll sweep the 3 games…who knows. However, I’m not concerned even a little bit, the Reds are an extremely talented but very young team and they’re going to go through some growing pains, especially in situations like this where they know it’s a big series, it’s on the road etc. It would be abnormal for them not to come out tight and anxious, so that’s what we’re seeing at the plate and on the mound. Just part of the maturation process of young players and young teams…no matter how talented.

  30. Cincinnatus Rex

    I’m not annoyed by optimism (and it is indeed early in the game), but this is as terrible a start as you could ask for. Reds look overwhelmed and out of their league, like Reds vs. Braves in the 2020 playoffs. Abbott did not look composed while giving up three doubles, and the hitters are making some pretty foolish guesses. “Deer in the headlights” was an expression I used twice before this game started, and that’s exactly what we’re seeing. Please snap out of it, Reds.

  31. Beaufort Red

    Cowboy not putting up with Sadak’s nonsense.

    • Tom Reeves

      Cowboy has no patience for uninformed yammering. He’s shut down Jim Day before the exact same way. I’m with Brantley on this.

      • Cincinnatus Rex

        I missed this exchange. What was Sadak saying?

  32. Melvin

    Good plays by India and Maile. Let’s get some runs.

  33. Dennis Westrick

    Figures! Burnes picks this game to return to his Cy Young form!

  34. Dennis Westrick

    Reds batters look anxious at the plate, with little if any swing discipline! Can’i win a game with a single at bat! Need to start with stringing some hits together and make Burnes work!

    • Melvin

      Yeah. Put the ball in play and do what go ya here.

  35. Melvin

    Wow. Another great catch this time by Friedl. DEFENSE. 🙂

  36. Kevin H

    Burns is tough. Reds will adjust, and if not tip your cap to the opposing pitcher.

  37. LarkinPhillips

    The Brewers are staying on the FB for AA. He is going to have to beat them with offspeed. Let’s see what our offense can do the second time through.

  38. Beroader

    We didn’t get to our seats until after the Brewers put up 4 runs. Abbott settled down once we got to our row. I apologize for our lateness and I hope we didn’t jinx the Reds!

  39. Melvin

    Okay. Friedl on. Now be aggressive.

  40. JB

    Basically Worst catcher in league throwing out runners and Freidl doesn’t steal? Come on guys.

  41. Kevin H

    Mclain in a 2-20 slump from what Thrall said on the Radio Now 2-22.. To be expected from players

  42. Mark Moore

    Is it just me, or do the boys look a little “flat” tonight?

    • LarkinPhillips

      They got “punched in the mouth” off the bat and haven’t responded yet. Good test for the young ones.

    • Cincinnatus Rex

      Absolutely. The slow start is deeply disappointing, and par for the course against the stupid Brewers.

  43. LDS

    Come on Reds, you have to win the big games. They’ve only won one of the first 4 and things aren’t looking good here. Hitless through 4 is embarrassing. Burned is having an off year. Take advantage of it.

    • LarkinPhillips

      He’s not having an off night. His stuff looks great. Pin point and lots of late sharp movement.

      • LDS

        All true but the Reds need to overcome that to be contenders. Abbott beat them last time. Can’t let the psychology slip, ie “we can’t beat Milwaukee “

  44. Mark A Verticchio

    Mclain and India both don’t look good.

  45. Beaufort Red

    According to Sadak they look hollow.

  46. Old-school

    Reds are being no hit and dominated by an elite righty. Mclain and India overmatched. Pump the brakes on trading good lefty hitters who hit righties.

  47. Tyler Hawk

    India is not a 3rd spot in the lineup guy David Bell …

  48. J

    “Aggressiveness on the bases is our strength… Force opponent to make mistakes… Yadda yadda yadda….”

  49. Melvin

    I thought he caught that ball. De La Cruz showing his Bball jumping skills.

  50. Tom Mitsoff

    Nice work by Abbott to strike out the side to waste a triple for Milwaukee!

  51. Mark Moore

    That’s a major win for that inning after that smoked triple to lead it off. It’s the kind of thing that could turn the tide for the boys.

  52. Melvin

    Three Ks after a triple. That’s a momentum switcher. 🙂

  53. Roger Garrett

    Burnes is on so far and he is a former Cy Young winner.He can make the best look silly.

  54. Melvin

    We’ll take a flare. 🙂 Be aggressive and go for it. That’s our game. Don’t stop now.

  55. Mark Moore

    Elly went with that and got a little lucky it fell in no man’s land.

  56. Tom Reeves

    Sadak sooooo needs to say less words.

    • Melvin

      Too much drama about EVERYTHING. I need a break.

  57. Mark Moore


    No but, but, but on that one.

  58. Kevin H

    Votto a two run shot!!! Rally Rally

  59. Bet on red

    But but but… posing with a mission impossible 6 star

  60. Votto4life

    Oh no, here comes those pathetic and delusional Votto cheerleaders again.

  61. Mark Moore

    That could rattle Burnes just a bit. Definitely injects some life into our guys.

  62. Melvin

    Hopefully that will loosen the guys up.

  63. JB

    Because Sadak can’t shut up and tell us, anybody know how far that home run went?

  64. Dennis Westrick

    There’s a saying in Sports that goes – “You can’t win ’em all”!

    But, if the Reds want to get to that next level (Division champs), you have to beat the best! And, right now, as in previous seasons, the Brewers OWN the Reds!

  65. Old-school

    One of the bigger homers from Votto in the last few years.
    EDLC may have distracted Cy young

  66. Mark Moore

    Zone is starting to flex a bit on the lower end. That strike on Benson was well below the zone and far lower than a bunch of balls getting called.

  67. Mark Moore

    Nice AB by Benson. Now Luke has a chance to punch one into the outfield.

  68. LDS

    Wow, can’t say I really expected Burnes to issue back to back walks after the Votto HR.

  69. Bet on red

    Next season can we have better Miami valley gaming commercials

    • Mark Moore

      That would be … wait for it … AWESOME!!!

  70. Jeff Morris

    Abbott battling, but he is human…..he is not superman! We really need pitching if we are going to compete. He cannot go 6 innings and 0 runs or 1-2 runs every time! We need pitching….hopefully H Greene and N Lodolo come back in August, and hopefully it is the first part of August. Big question is who do the Reds trade, if they want to dive in the trade deadline? But you have to get a pretty quality pitcher. You can’t just acquire someone just to acquire someone. If you don’t get a good deal….then just stand pat at the trade deadling.

  71. Melvin

    Poopy. That’s okay. We’re coming back.

  72. LarkinPhillips

    I would’ve like to seen a double steal with Maile hitting. Just to avoid the DP. Then that fly would’ve scored a run or led off next inning with Friedl.

    • Mark Moore

      Steer on 2nd isn’t the elite speed you normally need to pull that off, though. Not sure I’d pick that battle at that time.

      • LarkinPhillips

        He has plus speed and has stolen quite a few bases. The catcher is awful for the brewers at throwing out runners. May not have worked. But I like keeping the pressure on them there.

      • Mark Moore

        Thanks for the clarification LarkinPhillips.

  73. Mark Moore

    Took a really good play to snag that and throw Friedl out. Good news was the 2 runs and rattling Burnes a bit. We needed to do that, regardless of what comes next.

  74. Jeff Morris

    Also, what the Reds have done the last 25 games or so, is really exciting and nice. But, how long can they keep this up. Reds have exceeded expectations, and no one was expecting them to compete at all this year. Its nice to be the Reds. Imagine the pressure on teams like the Cardinals, Padres, Mets, Phillies, Dodgers, and the Yankees that were and are expected to be in the playoffs and perhaps win the world series.

  75. Mark Moore

    And so much for getting 2 runs back.

    • William

      Comeback time. The good news is Milwaukee is a very beatable team. LESSON LEARNED: Get some pitching GM and quit making excuses why you have not. Go Reds!

  76. JB

    Get Abbott out of there. You can’t throw that many balls over the heart of the plate. Hitters are to good for that

    • Kevin H

      Sorry JB, I should of paused before typing lol

  77. Melvin

    Abbotto doing his Weaver imitation. I guess he figures we’ll have a better chance to win that way. 🙂

  78. J

    I guess I’m just too dumb to understand the logic of swinging at what would probably have been ball 2 when the pitcher seems rattled and has given up back to back walks and your team is clawing its way back into a game like this and your last name is Maile rather than Ruth or Bonds or even Steer. I know Bell has never issued a take sign in his career, but I thought maybe that would be the moment.

  79. Old-school

    Bright side…only need to cover 24 outs tonight

  80. Brian Rutherford

    Brewers keep leaning out over the plate to get the outside pitch. Abbot needs to establish the inside.

    I also wonder if the Brewers have picked up something in his delivery. They seem to know whats coming.

    • LarkinPhillips

      He can’t locate his curve tonight, so they are sitting dead red on fastballs. The few change ups he has spotted they looked bad on.

  81. LDS

    I think here would be a good spot for Bell to save some of Abbott’s innings

    • Kevin H

      He heard you. Now u burn up the bullpen again after yesterday game.

      Right move though @LDS

      • LDS

        It would really be a bummer to make the playoffs and Abbott miss out because he’s innings limited.

      • Kevin H

        Agree LDS, I have heard he isn’t on a inning limit. So time will tell

      • LDS

        Didn’t see the article but someone on here quoted DJ as saying Abbott does have a limit this year.

  82. old-school

    Interesting to see when Abbott pitches next. reds may use the AS break to add 8-10 days to his year.

  83. Jim Walker

    Drama brewing???? Monitoring AAA Bats on a 2nd screen. Fairchild made his 1st appearance tonite. He was removed for a PH at the start of the 7th inning. In 3 PAs he had a 2B and a BB with 2 runs scored.

    No indication of injury or game activity by him in the play by play after the top of the 5th when he walked and eventually came around to score. So, he played 2 innings in the field subsequent to being PH for.

    Has he been traded? Is he headed to Milwaukee because somebody else has been traded or is going on some sort of leave after the game??? Or is it all coincidence?

    • Mark Moore

      Inquiring minds want to know … 😛

      • Jim Walker

        And for the record CES is 2/5 (both 1B w/ Ks) and still in the game.

        Perhaps of particular interest to you Mark, CES got taken to the cleaners by the ABS on consecutive pitches called balls and appealed to the ABS system. Both were changed to strikes to K him and total amount of ball touching the zone on both combined probably wasn’t any more than the width of a stitch on the ball.

      • Jim Walker

        Marte was never in the game though

      • Hanawi

        Marte is likely traveling for the Futures Game this weekend

      • Melvin

        Yeah for two days. That’s my point.

  84. Mark Moore

    Somebody said this is a funny game, right?

    And Momma said there’d be days like this.

  85. Mark Moore

    Bike helmets to squeak out of that inning.

  86. Erik the Red

    Abbott was throwing way too many pitches down the middle tonight. These games happen need to at least get one or two this weekend take some pressure off next weekend.

  87. J

    It’s obviously impossible to know what might have happened, but I would sure like to find out what might have happened if Maile had forced Burnes to throw at least one strike before swinging at anything. I understand modern players don’t believe in such things, because they’re all convinced they’re about to get a hit no matter what the stats say, but I think that’s something most managers in the past would have expected from their backup catcher hitting 9th, and I think there was a good reason why they did.

    • Mark Moore

      Excellent points and a +500 for you

  88. Mark Moore

    MattyMc with a broken back to break a little of the slump.

  89. LarkinPhillips

    I don’t understand how we haven’t attempted a single steal yet.

    • Kevin H

      McLain got picked off.

      De La Cruz stole a base

    • J

      Elly stole a base right before Votto’s homer. Otherwise, nothing.

    • LarkinPhillips

      Sorry. I missed Ellys steal.

      • J

        I think Bell missed it too, because he hasn’t had anyone else run in this game.

  90. Mark Moore

    Nuts … a really quick turn for that GIDP to reset everything.

  91. Melvin

    Pooop. We need to run more and stay out of those DPs.

  92. J

    And for the 18 millionth time this season, the speedy runner sits on first so that India has a chance to ground into a double play. Who could have seen that coming?

  93. Ted Alfred

    How much longer are we going to keep watching Jonathan India in the three hole, where he is so out of his depth as a hitter. He will never be a good, consistent RBI producer. He kills a lot if good run scoring situations. He need to go back to leadoff… or drop him down to 6-7.

    • LarkinPhillips

      +1000. I love him in the leadoff and Friedl 2 hole verse RHP.

  94. Beaufort Red

    What we need to do is move EDLC the to the 3 spot, Fraley or Steer cleanup and India 7th behind Benson.

  95. Kevin H

    Man when a player some don’t like or whatever seem to bash him at every turn. Votto, Senzel, Newman, and now India.

  96. Mark A Verticchio

    India is really hurting the offense. That ball should not have been a double play.

  97. JB

    Switched over to Milwaukee announcers. I’m just not into the drama tonight. These guys are actually really good.

    • Mark Moore

      It’s why I listen to Thrall and Cowboy.

      • Melvin

        I just switched. I need a break. Only problem is radio is about a couple of pitches behind.

      • Mark Moore

        Melvin – it’s in sync for me tonight. No lag at all.

    • LarkinPhillips

      Sadak is unbearable when the Reds are playing poorly to me. (Just my opinion)

      • Beaufort Red

        He can’t stand keeping his mouth shut. He calls a game as if he’s on radio. We can actually see what’s going on. I can’t even imagine how much time he spends on looking up statistics.

      • Melvin

        When they show him in the booth he has guys bringing him stats.

  98. Mark Moore

    Now the HP Chumpire begins to inject his own flavor to the game by missing obvious calls by the bucket full.

  99. Indy Red Man

    Well can’t win’em all. Abbott having Weaver type issues tonight where’s he leaving fastballs out over the plate. Where is the slider & heater in on the hands? Another pick-off which needs to be addressed and India as already mentioned. So sick of Adames. He’s always got s numbers, but destroys us for some reason. Get atleast 1 and win the series next weekend and no harm no foul. They’re not that good

    • Indy Red Man

      Adames .921 ops coming in vs the Reds and now has 11 hrs in 138 at-bats. Barrero to the league and ARod vs us

      • Soto

        I feel the same way about Bell’s interviews after losses. For me Sadak is pretty annoying for most games. I was driving during the middle innings of this game tonight. I had forgotten how much more enjoyable Thrall and the Cowboy are compared to the TV crew.

    • Ted Alfred

      They really aren’t that good but we definitely played really poorly and seemed just tight tonight. McClain looks a bit tired. Brewers hit a bunch of balls really hard, Abbott’s stuff and especially lack of control in the zone was poor…batting practice location and our hitters looked really off, maybe nerves. I think tonight’s a blip….split the next two and come back from the break ready and rested. I really hope Bell moves India out of the 3 tomorrow…might be a good time to bring CES up as the DH after the break.

  100. Tom Mitsoff

    Cruz is going to have to make some good pitches here or this one is going to get out of hand.

    • J

      Don’t worry. When a pitcher comes
      in and is clearly having trouble throwing strikes and has just loaded the bases with a walk, the thing to do is swing at the first pitch and pop it up. Because that’s “modern baseball.” It’s the reason I’m the only guy complaining about Maile swinging at what should have been ball 2 after back to back walks. Nobody cares about being smart anymore.

  101. JB

    Brewers bullpen is 4.07. Maybe we can get to them and win this 7-6.

  102. Mark Moore

    I think an implosion game like this hurts more since we’ve been on a tear and winning series after series. The hope with these guys has grown and fueled our enthusiasm. We’re way out performing anything the pundits said and the thought of giving up doesn’t seem to cross anybody’s mind. Even now, I find myself thinking, “Hey! It’s only 4 runs.”

    I’m hoping the guys can use tonight to fuel them for the Saturday and Sunday games. That’s what good teams do when a loss comes at them. They take it, learn from it, and then go back to winning.

  103. Dennis Westrick

    That’s it for me gents! These old bones are tired! Maybe we’ll do better tomorrow!

    Hopefully, the Brewers use up all their runs tonight!

  104. JB

    Oh I guess that low ball is a strike now. Challenge

  105. Old-school

    Robo umps please. This is a farce

  106. Hanawi

    Not watching but following online. Seems like Milner is really getting the low strike call so far.

      • Hanawi

        And then Cruz doesn’t get the call in the same exact spot.

  107. J

    Did Bell pinch hit Stephenson for Benson just so he could do some sort of double switch rather than simply using Senzel to pinch hit?

    • J

      Forgot Benson was the DH. My apologies to Bell for questioning his wisdom.

      • Mark Moore

        Same. Had to look twice earlier when I saw Steer in LF.

  108. Mark Moore

    Trending toward Bizzarro Zone again tonight.

  109. Gpod

    Reds 3 hits so far tonight….that won’t get it done

  110. Mark Moore

    I’m trending toward a “food coma” myself tonight. Not sure how much more of this I can watch. Looks like we break the streak tonight and get to start again tomorrow.

    Night, all. Pleasant dreams of playing in October to everybody.

  111. Melvin

    Walked the first two batters. Good thing Dennis is gone. He may not sleep tonight.

  112. LarkinPhillips

    I feel like Cowboy is just staring at Sadak in the booth with pure annoyance. He has stopped responding to Sadaks blathering at all, which I find hilarious.

    • Beaufort Red

      He’s probably more worn out than any game he ever pitched.

  113. Votto4life

    I am really not bothered by this game. The Reds are 10 games over .500 and have outplayed every team in the NL Central (including the Brewers) for some time now.

    • LarkinPhillips

      It would bother me less if we weren’t sending weaver to the mound tomorrow.

      • Votto4life

        I understand that concern, I just think overall, these games against Milwaukee are being over hyped.

        The nice thing about baseball is it’s a long season and cream rises to the top. The Reds are the best team in the NL Central and I think they will start to pull away from the pack early in the second half.

  114. Reddawg2012

    Losses will happen and this one wouldn’t bother me if it was against any other team. Why can’t the Reds beat the Brewers?

  115. Gpod

    Reds have been maneuvering thru many weeks with substandard starting pitching….just wondering how long can they keep doing it….thru all of July?

    • Votto4life

      I remember a few months ago worrying about the Reds playing a balanced schedule. Yet, here we are on July 7th and this team is in first place. The pitching will be OK. I really believe that.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      It’s not going to work long-term. But don’t panic about tonight’s result. Abbott was going to have an off-day sooner or later. If this team really wants to compete for a title, and they have good reason to want to do so, you can’t do that with guys like Weaver in your rotation. Greene and Lodolo might be ready by August, but they might not. It would be risky to pin one’s hopes on that happening.

  116. LarkinPhillips

    Why not use senzel or Newnan for Maile. That’s what Casali is supposed to be on the team for. Or kill the DH with Stephenson in now. Or is Bell just giving up now?

    • J

      Bell sees no point in trying every possible way to gain an advantage if it’s early in the game or if the score isn’t close. It’s among the things I don’t like about his management style.

  117. LarkinPhillips

    Forcing Williams to pitch is a small victory. But I’d love to see Steer find a hit and are this thing real interesting.

  118. Melvin

    Another hit/RBI for Votto. A few days ago he was hitting .156. He’s now at .240 and climbing. (.976 OPS).

  119. LarkinPhillips

    Should be 2-0. Not 0-2. Thats unbelievable to start a crucial AB.

      • LarkinPhillips

        He can’t throw that change up for a strike. That AB to steer is totally different not getting those two calls.

  120. LarkinPhillips

    Ball 3 to Stephenson. This flex o zone is ridiculous. Can’t wait for the challenge to strike in MLB.

  121. Hanawi

    Ump scorecard going to be heavily slanted toward Milwaukee. But, tying run to the plate is a win. Reds don’t go easily.

  122. Melvin

    Bases loaded. Tying run at the plate. 🙂 Hero from yesterday up. Come on Mr. Senzel. 🙂

    • J

      No, but with an umpire willing to call strikes on anything in the vicinity, it’s hard to blame him.

      • Melvin

        Yes. I’m a very big proponent of the “challenge system”.

  123. Melvin

    Well. They wen’t down fighting. On to tomorrow.

  124. LDS

    Oh well, still in 1st place and Diaz got the night off.

    • Melvin

      That’s true….and their closer didn’t. 🙂

  125. Tom Reeves

    They still rallied in the end. There’s no quit in this team even if tonight it came up short.

    And they made the Brew Crew use their closer when I’m guessing they’d have rather given him a breather. So, a loss but a productive loss.

    And Votto is legit heating up. I’d love to see one last Wet Hot Canadian Summer out of Votto!

  126. J

    Bell in a nutshell: he’ll pinch hit for Maile with the bases loaded in the 9th, because he has no faith in Maile to get a hit, but saw no reason to give him a “take” sign when the opposing pitcher has just walked the two guys ahead of him and already thrown ball one in the to Maile in the 5th. Despite all the winning, he remains a poor strategist.

    • J

      And I remain bad at typing comments on my phone…

  127. Andrew Brewer

    I followed this on Gamecast. The Umpire called so many of the Strikes from Red pitchers otherwise. True we got only 4 hits, and Votto provided the scoring, but somehow the Reds got the tying run to the Plate in the 9th. This was a game where superman lost his powers to the Kryptonite. (Except for the old Master.) As the Umpire told Ted Williams when he got up to bat with his .400 average on the line: “You gotta stay loose to hit.” (Williams went 4 for 6 and got the last batting average over .400) . We’ll see what the Reds do tomorrow and the next day. Only JV was feeling it today.