Matt McLain had a nice debut after being called up earlier in the day, but in a back-and-forth game at Coors Field the Cincinnati Reds comeback fell just short as they stranded the tying run on second base to end the game in a 9-8 loss to the Colorado Rockies.
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Cincinnati got things rolling in the top of the 1st inning with a Jonathan India single. After Matt McLain popped up in his first big league at-bat, Jake Fraley lined a single over the shortstop to put runners on the corners. Spencer Steer blooped a single into right field to plate India, but Kris Bryant made a perfect throw to third base to get Fraley.
In the bottom of the 2nd inning the Rockies got that run back when Mike Moustakas hit a ball back to Cincinnati for a solo homer to tie the game up at 1-1. Randall Grichuk followed up with a double off of the wall in right field and he’d come around to score on a single by Harold Castro as Colorado grabbed a 2-1 lead. After back-to-back strikeouts, Brenton Doyle doubled down the left field line to put two runners in scoring position. Charlie Blackmon then tripled in both runs as his grounder down the right field line caught the wall in foul territory and ricocheted toward center rather than continue down the line, capping off the inning and make it 4-1.
The Reds went to work in the 3rd inning when Matt McLain picked up his first big league hit. Off of the bat it looked like a solid line drive single into center, but he turned on the jets and took second base with a hustle double. Jake Fraley followed up with a single that plated McLain just ahead of the throw home from Randal Grichuk, with Fraley taking second on the throw. He wouldn’t get any further than that, but Cincinnati cut into the Rockies lead.
After recording the first two outs of the inning, Hunter Greene ran into trouble in the bottom of the 3rd when he gave up back-to-back singles. A wild pitch then moved the trail runner up to second base, but Greene would battle back and strike out Ezequiel Tovar to strand both runners.
Cincinnati’s offense went back to work in the top of the 4th. Nick Senzel crushed a ball into right field, but it should have been caught. Instead it turned Kris Bryant around and it clanked off of his glove near the warning track and Senzel raced to second base. Henry Ramos walked and then both moved up a base on a sacrifice bunt from Spencer Steer. Stuart Fairchild followed with a sacrifice fly to make it 4-3 and then Jonathan India tied the game up with an RBI hit into right field.
The tie didn’t last very long. Austin Wynns singled to lead off the bottom of the 4th and Brenton Doyle hit a go-ahead 2-run home run. Greene would have to work around a walk later in the inning but he did just that. His pitch count rose to 96 on they night as he finished the frame.
As it goes in Coors Field, if you blink you might miss something. Spencer Steer doubled with one out and Tyler Stephenson followed up with one of his own as the Reds cut into the Rockies lead in the top of the 5th. Nick Senzel followed up with a walk, leading to a pitching change. Brent Suter came on and got a lazy fly ball off of the bat of Henry Ramos, but Randal Grichuk lost it in the lights and it fell in for a single to load the bases. Suter came back to strike out Wil Myers. A wild pitch tied the game up with everyone advancing a base, but a strikeout of Stuart Fairchild ended the inning.
When the bottom of the 5th began it was Ben Lively heading to the mound for the Reds. He made quick work of the Rockies, retiring the side on 12 pitches. Lively only needed 11 pitches to get through the 6th inning as he kept the game tied up at 6-6. He would head back out for the 7th, but he’d take a comebacker off of the calf that turned into a single to start the inning. Lively then got Kris Bryant to line out before Cincinnati went to the bullpen to bring in Lucas Sims to face Mike Moustakas. Sims would come out ahead, but barely, as Moustakas flew out to the warning track for the second out of the inning. Randal Grichuk would follow up with a walk and as the old saying goes, they’ll haunt as Harold Castro hit a 2-run double to put the Rockies back in front 8-6.
Henry Ramos would lead off the top of the 8th with a double and then he would steal third base without a throw. Wil Myers then followed up with a sacrifice fly to make it a 1-run game. That would be all they’d get in their half of the inning. Buck Farmer took over on the mound for Cincinnati in the bottom of the inning and got an out on the first pitch he threw. Unfortunately on the third pitch he threw Brenton Doyle hit a solo home run – his second homer of the day – to make it 9-7.
The Reds needed at least two runs in the top of the 9th to keep the game going and had 2-3-4 in their order due up against Peirce Johnson and his 9.39 ERA at Coors Field this season. Matt McLain started the inning with a walk where he didn’t see a single strike thrown. After Jake Fraley flew out, Spencer Steer lined a single into right field and advance McLain to second base. Tyler Stephenson popped up, leaving the game in the hands of Nick Senzel with two on and two out and he came through with a single on a 3-0 pitch to bring McLain in and make it a 9-8 ballgame. Henry Ramos would fly out to end the game as the Reds rally fell just short.
Key Moment of the Game
Brenton Doyle’s 2nd home run of the game, which made it 9-7 and ultimately was the run that made the difference.
Notes Worth Noting
Matt McLain got on base twice and he scored two runs in his debut.
Spencer Steer picked up three hits.
Nick Senzel went 1-2 with three walks.
After the game it was announced that Brandon Williamson would be the starter on Tuesday. It will be his Major League Baseball debut.
Up Next for the Cincinnati Reds
Cincinnati Reds vs Colorado Rockies
Tuesday May 16th, 8:40pm ET
Brandon Williamson (MLB debut) vs Chase Anderson (0-0, 0.00 ERA)
The Reds are missing a power hitter in the lineup: Christian Encarnacion Strand.
Looking forward to more guys coming up…a lot. McLain didn’t disappoint tonight in my book. He’s going to be a good one.
CES and EDLC are both striking out a lot in AAA. Both hitting for power, too, but if they’re called up soon it probably won’t take MLB pitchers very long to find the holes in their bats. So I wonder, should that happen, how long we will give them before we start blaming the Reds for bringing them up before they were ready?
Elly De La Cruz is not striking out a lot in AAA. He struck out a lot the first week off of the injured list. Since then he’s struck out in 20.7% of his plate appearances. That’s better than the league average.
Thanks, Doug. I purveyed old news, then.
They’re also missing a lefty: Elly.
Are you kidding? The Reds are missing 4 starting pitchers!
I’ll take my chances any day with a guy who can hit the 2 or 3 run-homer, and yes, strikes-out swinging than the mediocrity weak-hitting of Myers, Fairchild, and Barrero, etc. Last year shaky bullpen, this year starting pitching.
Hunter just said on the post game show he was pleased with the way he got pitched tonight. The guy gave up 6 runs in 4 innings. He basically blamed Coors field. Mostly wind blown hits. Maybe he closed his eyes when Moose took him in the second deck. Unreal!
That sounds like a manager Bell comment.
Could also be the comment of a young pitcher who was working on something in particular and felt he made progress with it. Coors Field famously makes breaking balls not break, so Hunter’s slider might have suffered.
Hunter Greene is not looking very “dominant.”
He appears to lack mental toughness, as evidenced by his pouty episodes on the mound–much like his episode in Oakland.
To be emotional can be good–see G. Ashcraft–but not like this. It’s like he thinks he’s entitled to success, and when it doesn’t come, it’s anyone’s fault but his. Maybe he wasn’t quite ready for that big contract…
Lots of unusually talented psychoanalysts commenting here and, even more unusually, they are able to make their diagnoses based upon watching games on television.
WIl Myers since his big game against the Phillies in mid April has a wRC+ of -14, not including tonight. Before that game had a 55 so.. he needs to goooooo.
He honestly should be cut and his spot taken by CES.
Yes, he is an automatic out most times.
It’s really frustrating that someone with as much talent as Hunter Greene struggles to put guys away. Reminds me of a young Homer Bailey, has all the talent in the world, but doesn’t quite understand how to utilize it effectively.
I just hope Hunter figures it out faster than Homer did. He should model his game off of Luis Castillo.
Also remember in their sophomore years, a lot of Reds pitchers we grew to love struggled. I think think at age 25, he will be a dominating pitcher. Of course, he’s 23 so it will be up and down for a while.
I wonder if Mario Soto has worked with him any, as he did with Castillo?
+1 CIJ3. Greene struggling to put away hitters is maddening. Yet I feel some of the blame should fall on Stephenson…and by extension the game planning. TS falls in love with the fastball, can sometimes call for the same pitch multiple times in a row (a Tucker Barnhart specialty and the same mistake TS made with Sims), and last night particularly was late to recognize the need for more changeups.
A few of the hits he gave up seemed out over the plate, but others were on the edges. They seemed all to be off his fastball, 97-98MPH. It must not be moving much or is easy to pick up. Hope he isn’t Homer 2.0. And now Lodolo with a chronic calf and in a boot. Need some help!!
I wonder if he and Stephenson had discovered that the breaking stuff wasn’t breaking: the Coors Field effect.
Greene has to figure out how to get hitters out. It’s that simple. Talk about stuff and makeup and blah blah blah
Bottom line is he’s not getting it done
Strand needs to come up bench Myers get rid of him, whatever…. Ramos and TJ ( when he comes back) should be in outfield. CES should DH or Steer should, Steer can not handle third at this point. The other one should play first. Our strikeout to walk ratio was better today, but, still needs work. Our Bullpen will be wore out by the All-star break at this rate. Stating the obvious, we need more reliable starting pitching and strikeout much less. I know management knows this as well and it is easy to say and not easy to snap your fingers and do.
I disagree with the notion that Steer is somehow inferior to Senzel defensively at 3B. Nick has been shaky with his decision making and in particular on slow rollers. Larkin called him out more than once over the weekend for trying to barehand the ball instead of gloving it. There also was the grounder to him with runners on first and second where all he had to do was tag the baserunner running right at him and then throw to first for the double play yet he threw to 2b and only got one out.
IMO we need to just cut Myers and Fairchild they are just awful and bring little value at all to this team. Barrero to RF , CES brought up asap for DH and 1B. Time to bring EDLC up as well but for what position I’m not sure…..Go Reds!
Long term, I think McClain goes to second (the guy looks like a second basemen). CES or Strand probably takes first. India will eventually have to move. I don’t think that rebalance happens this year but definitely will get set up this year.
Man, I’m not sure McClain could have made a better impression on Cincy fans than if he had hit four home runs – we do love some smart, aggressive hustle.
Matt Mclain can really pick’em up and put’em down. Not too much is more impressive in baseball than great base running.
Agreed, McClain looks like a 2b to me as well. I just don’t see how a guy his size can credibly make that throw from the 5 1/2 hole. Maybe he makes up for it with range on other types of batted balls, but we’ll see. We’ll also see the kind of guy India purports to be. Will he be willing to move off 2b for the good of the team?
The speed was impressive though. Normally a 3b coach will hold if the outfielder has the ball before the runner reaches the base yet McClain got the wave and still made it.
McClain is listed at 5’11”. Lots of people that height have had strong arms, Mantle and Mays spring to mind, but I get that you’re talking about a particular throw. Brandon Philips started out at short and had a strong arm. Barry Larkin was just one inch taller. I didn’t see the game: did he look good defensively? Have any throws?
From what I’ve seen McLain is listed, and also looks 5’8″.
Well, an inch taller than Joe Morgan. I see the point, but I’m curious about his arm, 5’8″ or not. He was playing some shortstop in the minors which may indicate he can make the throws.
Yeah. He looks fine at ss from what I’ve seen.
The biggest surprise of the season so far for me (or I guess disappointment) has been the poor performances of the “big 3” in the starting rotation. I know they are young. But they have not been good for the most part, especially Greene and Lodolo.
I agree with you about Lodolo and Greene but for the most part Ashcraft has been solid. I actually look forward to his starts.
Nick Krall has made some good decisions, but not adding more starting pitchers, this past winter, was malfeasance.
Yep, Ashcraft by far has been the most impressive and to me he looks like he could be a true #1 rotation guy in the future to make deep playoff runs. He has that Bulldog fearlessness… same as Diaz The Closer
At this point, there is really no reason to continue giving plate appearances to Myers, Newman, Fairchild or Casali. They own a collective 55 OPS+ (lower than Barrero) and are simply in the way of better/younger options.
By the end of the summer, I’m hoping we can see a regular lineup something like this:
1B Steer, 2B India, SS EDLC, 3B Senzel
OF: Fraley, Friedl, McLain
C Stephenson/Maile (or Robinson)
Fairchild’s OPS+ is 80, the lowest it has been all season. Barrero’s OPS+ is 64 or 16 percent lower than Fairchild.
They both stink, and will be out of baseball in less than 5 years.
yes, that is why it says “collectively” and not “individually”.
When I watch Jonathan India play 2B I see a player with bad hands, mediocre range and slow reactions. I have read and agree that he is better off in LF.
I would switch McLain and India. EDLC and McLain are familar with each other playing the keystone.
I would also like to see CES man 1B with Speer being an IF sub (except SS).
Where did you read that India would be better off in LF? Who is saying this? Who has EVER seen India even play the outfield? McLain actually played a lot of OF in college, but to my knowledge I’ve never known India to play OF.
Funny thing about that possible line up, which I love, as of now Stephenson would bat 9th. Who would have guessed that at the beginning of the year.
I wasn’t expecting much from Myers heading into the season, but a 48 OPS+ is way below any consideration. Another sunk cost salary is on its way.
I just looked at the standings and saw that the Reds are the only team in the division with a negative run differential. That does not indicate a positive short term future. I am afraid that the only way this team can avoid last place is much better starting pitching, especially the so called big 3, and getting rid of some place holders, mainly Myers, Newman, Fairchild and one of the catchers while bringing up CES, EDLC and possibly Hopkins and Robinson.
I believe the Front Office has 7.5 million reasons to stay with Myers, unfortunately.
This deal always amazed me. Being a secondary fan of San Diego, after having grown up there, I can tell you fans loved Meyers as a great guy, but couldn’t wait to see him gone because he stunk. Why we dumped the Moose contract only to add to the sunk cost by signing Meyers is beyond understanding.
Agreed. He will be with the Reds till at least the trade deadline. Unless he can start to hit the best we can hope for is trading him for a bag of chips and a team willing to take a flyer on him paying half his salary.
I think the front office has done a reasonably good job with some of their draft picks and most recent trades, but they’re bigger money free agent signings are just terrible year after year and is really
hamstringing the team
I forgot the possible biggest change of all getting a new manager. The problem with Bell is that like all managers he makes questionable decisions, such as pulling Lively last night. However, the problem is Bell’s so called hunches almost never work
Agreed. Lively was cruising and as a stretched out starter, it wouldn’t stress him in the least to finish that inning. I also don’t get why Bell isn’t saving Sims for higher leverage situations. The modus operandi seems to be that guys pitch on days when they’re available with no apparent pecking order save for Diaz.
When your staff is only giving you at most 5 innings a start it is difficult to define roles
Of be Lively getting hit by the line drive had something to do with him coming out of the game.
For me, that was the most frustrating loss of the year. The Rockies are a bad team and the Reds didn’t meet the moment. With Lodolo out and Williamson pitching tonight, we needed length from Greene and instead he laid an egg. A win keeps the momentum coming out of Miami going, but here we are staring at a series loss when the schedule says we should be stacking wins.
I don’t know what’s going on with Tyler Stephenson but he’s not playing up to his potential on either side of the ball. The pitch sequencing was particularly bad for Greene and Sims, and his last at-bat with the tying run on base was a half-hearted swing on an offspeed pitch with less than 2 strikes…..just not in the right headspace when you don’t have a plan and compete in that situation.
Stephenson’s shoulder is not all the way back to what it was prior to the 2022 injury/ surgery; and, just as we saw with Votto on rehab, it impacts his plate coverage and swing mechanics. Sorry, I don’t have the link at my fingertips; but, I saw an article over the weekend where TS as much as admitted this in a roundabout way speaking of pushing himself too much too soon in the spring. And as the saying goes, no one is ever fully 100% once the grind of the season sets in.
And here is the article. Note it appears to be behind the paywall at least as I got to it today. With auto logon enabled it isn’t always apparent when chasing links off of Twitter etc.
Thanks Jim. This explains why the Reds went with a three-catcher rotation and gives hope that Stephenson returns to form with time.
I know I sound like a broken record but they need to trade Stephenson now while they can still get something for him. He is/always has been fairly bad to terrible behind the plate defensively at all aspects of catching other than having a decent arm. Also, I can’t get over the number of times he quickly gets in a
1-2, or 0-2 count and then watches a strike three fastball right down the middle. Maybe the Reds will give him next year to see if the injury is really affecting his hitting/power as much as might be, but I don’t think the catching is ever going to get better defensively, so at that point he’s a DH/1st base best case… and Steer or what is coming from AAA looks way
better for that option in the future than Stephenson will ever be.
A good little league coach will make sure all of the players have a chance to participate – that both the good players and bad players get plenty of AB’s, and all get to try different positions on the field.
But, by the time you reach the major leagues, the job is not to make sure everybody participates. But the job is to get the best players the most playing time, find consistency for them, and try to win.
In that regard, it would be nice if the Reds were to bring in a major league manager, and not someone who thinks he is managing in a Cincinnati area youth league.
I watched the game last night. I don’t remember any substitutions/bench players entering the game.
And everyone does need to play. Your better players/starters do (and should) play substantially more.
A problem the Reds have but maybe are in the process of addressing is that their roster doesn’t provide for eight starters so clearly superior or mostly unaffected by the handedness of the opposing pitcher that it’s simple to install a great eight. Friedl being out makes this worse, but they have players who are platoon players, ideally.
Ramos may be righting the ship a bit lately, but don’t why he had such a great spring training and early part of the regular season then nose-dived. Perhaps the opposition have figured out his weakness and exploiting it…he needs to adjust.
The pitching in Spring Training is not the same quality as the pitching in the actual Major League season….. I think.
I could be wrong about that. Which would also explain why Benson hit so well in Spring Training, yet, could not buy a hit when the season started.
And just think, if Chad Pinder had even managed to hit 0.250 in Spring Training, he would be on this team right now.
McLain is going to be exciting to watch. That dude can fly! Really looking forward to seeing Friedl back in the lineup.
Those 4 are reasons to watch and Senzel is putting some good games together and Stephenson will be ok. Starting pitching will be the undoing and only a matter of time before the bullpen arms wear down. Its a long season.
Nice debut for McLain – love the hustle. Solid outing for Lively – so far so good. Really disappointing start for Greene – I was sure the Reds would clobber the Rockies last night. I agree that Newman, Myers, Casali and Fairchild are not contributing, and I don’t see Ramos being more valuable than CES, EDLC, or even Barrero in the long run – plenty of room for some upgrades from AAA when they’re ready, and for Votto if / when he’s ready. Finally, Myers had a sacrifice bunt with two on and no out, at Coors Field? Really? I know he’s not hitting his weight but really? That’s just awful. Now let’s hope for two out of three before the Yankees roll into town.
It looked to me like he was bunting for a base hit. If so, I have no problem with it.
If so, fair enough. I didn’t see the video, just the written summary. And the way he’s been (not) hitting that’s a reasonable alternative to swinging away. But I do not like just giving up the out, especially with none out, two runs down, at Coors Field!
Understand the statistics…but it did take away the dbl play and did result in one run…that along with his weak hitting may be the best at the point in time.
It was a straight sacrifice….which for Meyers, is better than letting him swing away.
Our outfield was a big concern for me this offseason, so I was pretty happy with the Myers signing. But it certainly hasn’t worked out so far. We’re hurting after Friedl and Fraley, which makes it worse when one of them goes down.
Rockies own us at Coors. Never ends. Liked what I saw from McLain though. Already looks better than Barrero at the plate. Need to get Friedl back. He makes things happen.
i watched the Hunter Greene post game yesterday and feel he has been “Belled”….how he can be so “happy” with how he pitched is insane. Either watching the game or looking at his line….no way should he be upbeat on how he pitched. I couldn’t help think, in contrast, I can’t imagine Joe Burrow having a postgame after playing a terrible game and being even “OK” or “happy” with the results.
I saw this also, the satisfaction with certain undefined aspects of his pitching with no other takeaway was classic Bell. The eye test was enough and I wish I had count of the Cowboy saying “Right Down Broadway” when he was pitching. It was also noted that the very apparent frustration of Hunter could have been related to the pitch calling, but “shaking the pitch off” is the obvious thing to do.
He obviously needs more development and will rightly get the time to improve. Sugarcoating the situation by anybody doesn’t help. This was a bad outing, period.
Couldn’t agree more. To me, that is a losers mentality that he thought he pitched well. 6 runs and 4 innings is not good in any park. Smiling and happy and he thought he pitched well. That’s unacceptable. Ashcraft doesn’t pitch that way. Greene needs a severe wake up call.
Exciting game to watch but a win opportunity for Hunter missed. Yes, the slider won’t slide as much at Coors field but that’s where pitch location, pitch calling, and strategy come in. Unfortunately, neither seemed very evident today. Despite the “Big 3” and a better than expected bullpen the Reds are 5th highest in ERA, 6th highest in BB, and 3rd highest in P/IP (my favorite for the nibblers).
As for hitting, McClain just seemed ready for anything and poised to keep the 2nd or 3rd slot occupied. Still, I wouldn’t rush the other stars waiting in the wings until they learn to SO less often. Aquino and Barrero are well aware of this. On a team that is 5th in SO it may be tough to break the habit in the face of MLB pitching.
Finally, I remember all the “bad luck” that the team reportedly had hitting in 2021? because of an abnormally low BABIP. I didn’t understand the logic on this but now that the team has the 4th highest BABIP, does that portend that they are “too lucky” and that the meager results obtained thus far…are likely to fall?
Perhaps this reflects more line drives and fewer long fly outs that don’t get over the fence. No shifts should elevate every teams BABIP.
Both teams had 12 hits last night. But one team had 3 HRs; the other had none. You know which team won.
We need a masher like CES in this lineup something fierce.
The Reds need two things on offense a masher, CES, and a star , EDLC, they also miss a left handed version of Mclain, Freidl, the question is when will they attempt to be a good team by playing their best players. They may struggle early but they will be better than Fairchild, Newman and Myers as soon as they step on the field.
I was only able to see McLain’s 1st AB, but it looks like he contributed well with 2 runs 1 2B, 1 BB. I liked reading the comments about his base running. Maybe a future lead off? It would also slow India to get into a spot where he has more RBI chances.
A little later we can stack bats like CES, and EDLC in the middle of the lineup.
Why do the Reds, and some fans, want to wait on CES and EDLC ? This team needs help now and it would increase fan interest ten fold. Who would you rather watch theses two young guys with star potential or Fairchild, Ramos, Myers and Newman? I realize that somebody , most likely India or Mclain, would have to move to left field. However, that is a nice young line up, so let’s get the ball rolling and then start to fix the starting to rotation.
“Who would you rather watch theses two young guys with star potential or Fairchild, Ramos, Myers and Newman?”
CED and EDLC only playing infield right now. Fairchild, Ramos, and Myers only playing outfield right now and will still be in the lineup even if CED and EDLC are brought up.
The Reds either need to move one of our many infielders to the outfield or make a trade.
Yep #CFEDLC 🙂
Agreed. But I want a strong return on. Any trade. Like a 24 year OF who can bang 30 HRs. I have got it that this will take a IF prospect in return. Count me in.
I read the article on MLB.com about the game last night….a very accurate statement by the author: “Greene was stunningly upbeat about his performance” and the quote by Greene: “I pitched really well tonight” Reds management/ownership should be the one’s stunned by this statement considering the money that he just signed for.
The biggest problem with Greene is his pitch count is almost always ridiculously high through four or five innings, so he’s going to
consistently crush your bullpen. He’ll never be anything more than a #3 at best if he can’t start
getting through the 6th/7th
innings somewhat regularly, which won’t happen the way he currently pitches. The bottom line is at this point he doesn’t have good enough control to put his pitches where he wants them…so a lot of balls or right down the middle…not enough strikes where he wants them. So if that doesn’t get better then this is who he is unless he develops a great change up or something similar.
Watched the game today (record them all) and a couple of takeaways. Greene can throw 100, but when it’s in the middle of the plate, MLB players clobber it. To me it looks like he’s scared to death to throw inside. If these batters thought they may have to dodge a 100 MPH fastball once in a while, they would not be so comfortable in waiting on that one down the middle. McClain looks good, and is fast as he double hockey sticks. There is just something wrong with Myers, he did bring his left foot around to face the pitcher last night, but to me, even though his left foot sometimes heads toward the pitcher, his body is twisting away, at least it looks like that to me. Classic case of stepping in the bucket. Senzel is doing well at the plate and really well at third. We just need some pop. HOpefully CES is up soon.
If Mclain can play left field problem solved. Yes to bring them both up you have to make some adjustments, but that’s what good teams do. Sometimes you just have be a bit creative.