The Cincinnati Reds will look to avoid being swept by the Chicago Cubs this afternoon after losing the first two games of the series. The Reds will be sending Justin Dunn to the mound to make his second big league start of the season while the Cubs are going to counter with Keegan Thompson. First pitch is set for 1:40pm.

Starting Lineups

Here are the lineups for tonight’s contest:

Chicago Cubs

Cincinnati Reds

Rafael Ortega – CF Jake Fraley – DH
Ian Happ – LF Nick Senzel – CF
Seiya Suzuki – RF Kyle Farmer – 3B
Franmil Reyes – DH Joey Votto – 1B
Nico Hoerner – SS Donovan Solano – 2B
Patrick Wisdom – 1B Albert Almora Jr. – LF
Zach McKinstry – 2B Aristides Aquino – RF
Yan Gomes – C Jose Barrero – SS
Christopher Morel – 3B Austin Romine – C
Keegan Thompson – SP Justin Dunn – SP

Starting Pitchers

Justin Dunn 4.2 5.79 1.50 2 2
Keegan Thompson 99.0 3.36 1.24 31 86
Links: Justin Dunn’s Stats | Keegan Thompson’s Stats

Justin Dunn

It was over a year between big league starts for Justin Dunn when he took the mound on Monday for the Reds. He had been pitching in the minors since June 26th, making one rehab start for High-A Dayton and then seven starts in Triple-A Louisville (some of which were rehab starts and some of which came after he was activated and optioned to the minors). He had some struggles in the minors, but with such a long layoff as he battled injuries that isn’t entirely unexpected.

Pitch Usage (from his 1 start in 2022)

4-Seam Slider Change Curve
Velo 92.3 82.9 87.7 79.0
Usage 54.3% 20.0% 2.9% 22.9%

Keegan Thompson

Not shown below are the home and road splits for Keegan Thompson and they are big splits. On the road this season his ERA is 5.09 and hitters have a .282/.356/.521 line against him. He’s been outstanding at home (2.40 ERA, .623 OPS against) this season but has had some real struggles on the road.

His splits against lefties and righties aren’t that big, but they are a bit different. Left-handed hitters walk a lot more than righties do, but they don’t hit for as much power. Right-handed hitters make a little more contact and hit for more power, but also walk quite a bit less.


RHH 218 50 11 0 8 11 44 .250 .307 .425
LHH 196 42 7 3 3 20 42 .244 .333 .372

Pitch Usage

4-Seam 2-Seam Cutter Slider Change Curve
Velo 93.5 93.0 90.0 84.1 86.0 81.4
Usage 45.6% 5.5% 22.8% 3.9% 5.4% 16.8%

When and Where

  • Game time: 1:40pm ET
  • Where: Great American Ball Park
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio, (out of market)
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 71°, cloudy, 20% chance of rain

News and Notes

1st round pick has a big night

Last night out in Arizona the Reds 1st round pick, Cam Collier went off as he picked up his first professional home run while going 4-4. Video of the home run and a few other notes from around the farm system are covered over at in the latest MiLB Notebook.

Joey Votto passes Larry Walker

223 Responses

  1. Mark Moore

    I’m tuning in, but if I happen to drift off into nap-land … 😮

    It’s almost time to Kick this Piggie Stupid Cubs bunch out of town.

    If we win today, can we consider it a split and that whole mess in Dyersville as neither home nor away (or even entertaining beyond Johnny Bench in the booth)?

    • Mark Moore

      Oh, and just in case anyone is interested, the answer is pork chops tonight 😀

  2. Mark A Verticchio

    5 losses in a row and for the most part no changes. I would do something, anything, to shake things up. The idea of giving Barrero a day off would be a start. On another note I think the time has come to move EDLC to center field, Senzel is not the answer.

    • LT

      Not sure if EDLC is the answer but agree with you about Senzel. He just has not made any noticeable progress playing outfield, and IMHO, it negatively affects his offense. He was on a tear back in early July (?), had a day off, had an awful defensive game the next game, and his offense has not been the same.

    • LDS

      Losses don’t matter at this point. I’d favor sitting more of the veterans like Votto, Farmer, Solano, Reynolds, and calling up younger replacements to figure out what the management needs to do in the off season to at least pretend to be a professional team. But as I’ve said for about 3 years, the Reds teams aren’t going to improve until they fire Bell and his staff. The DJ and Zinter trail of tears is getting rather long. I was looking at the IL list today and some of those guys, e.g., Wilson just need to be released.

  3. Mark Moore

    Pre-game show flashing the 7-game stats for Farm Dawg at 3rd base. Very small sample, but very impressive.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I missed it. Defensively or offensively?

      • Mark Moore

        .357 was the leading stat. All offensive stuff.

      • Joe Henry

        He also started a couple of slick double plays and made a nice grab on a sharply hit grounder, nipping the runner by a step.
        In addition he has been one of the Reds’ most durable players the last 2 years, mostly out of the lineup only for scheduled days off.

  4. Bet on Red

    India out again, I know it is due to injury but it is a shame how his season has been hijacked by injury. Less then a month till the Bengals play the Stupid Steelers

  5. Mark Moore

    Anyone else watching on finding the Erin Andrews Infinity commercial “Unscripted” to be completely annoying? It’s like they couldn’t have scripted it more or made it more inane if they tried.

    • Bet on Red

      I dont see that, the one that is annoying to me is the nike back to school one

  6. Jim Walker

    Just what the Reds and Dunn needed (not) a 13 pitch PA to start the game. Not good even it they had gotten the out.

      • Jim Walker

        And I agree with your “out pitch” comment below. Was thinking the same.

    • Jim Walker

      Great response and effective defense as opposed to some of the clown shows we’ve seen defensively by the Reds on run downs this season.

    • VaRedsFan

      He doesn’t seem to miss bats.
      You’d hope he would then get soft contact….which he doesn’t do that either.
      1 start +1 inning observation.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        Agreed. He’s going to need to find an “out” pitch to take the next step in effectiveness. Reds have three more years of team control, so if he can, he’s someone they can count on for a few years.

  7. Mark Moore

    Nice, fundamental rundown for the DP. Takes a little pressure off Dun after that nasty 13-pitch first AB.

  8. Mark Moore

    Well, the powder blue glove is annoying right off the bat

  9. Mark Moore

    Rain delay coming on? That can be really rough on the starting pitchers if it goes for any significant length of time.

  10. Tom Mitsoff

    Reds have succeeded in working up Thompson’s pitch count if nothing else.

    • Mark Moore

      Big time. Joey and Senzel worked him.

  11. Mark Moore

    Cowboy is saying there is “incoming rain with some red in it” shortly.

    • Mark Moore

      Even though the current band has let up quite a bit.

  12. Mark Moore

    Nothing to show for it but running up the pitch count ahead of the next band of rain. Radar shows some brief but intense stuff inbound.

  13. Mark Moore

    I’m feeling like we’ve seen this movie before … anybody else?

    • Jim Walker

      Yep. Be interesting to know the EV on that double down the 3B line. I thought it took a long time to get by the bag for no closer than Farmer got to it. Shift both gives and takes I guess.

      • Jim Walker

        Statcast says 92 and change EV on the double ahead of the HR. However, xBA of only .140 suggests the Reds were out of position or Farmer was slow to the bounding ball.

      • Mark Moore

        Neither double was a hard-hit ball

    • dhmorgan

      The only thing missing is the popcorn.

      • Mark Moore

        Would you believe my wife is popping some right now?

  14. Indy Red Man

    Dunn doesn’t have it. Not at 91-92 anyway. Don’t know why Farmer was so far off the line on that first double with a soft-tosser. Its too bad because he was electric with Seattle. Hopefully he can recover or he’ll probably be out of the game.

  15. Doc4uk

    Dunn definitely not the answer as part of a future rotation. Maybe Bullpen?

    • Tom Mitsoff

      The rest of this season, we’ll see if he has enough left after his shoulder injury to justify a look next year. If he can be effective through location (not so far), then there would be reason to hope for a next step with some additional recovery time for the shoulder during the offseason.

      He has two more options left, so he could also be sent to the minors next year to continue his recovery.

  16. Doc4uk

    Might as well bring up McGarry and Steer in September and sit Votto and Farmer or use them as RH/LH DH only. What do you have to lose?

    • Tom Mitsoff

      It’s clear that the Reds are going to play Votto every day and bat him cleanup no matter what as long as he is on the roster.

  17. Erik the Red

    Was Justin Dunn one of corner pieces of Winker Suarez trade? He does not have a lot of movement on his pitches and he throws low 90’s. Not exactly a recipe for a long career. I realize small sample size but he is pitching against a team on pace to lose 90 games.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I suspect he was someone Krall wanted to take a look at, and that Seattle didn’t mind at all giving up. He was not a key component of the deal.

      • Jim Walker

        If this is how it went down, Seattle probably exhaled at getting off cheaper than they expected.

      • Jim Walker

        Dunn was the #19 overall pick in the 2016 draft (same year as Senzel and Tramell for Reds). Think he is as valuable as his health will allow,

  18. Bet on Red

    51 pitches through 2 innings… ogod job running up the pitch count

  19. Bet on Red

    Punisher returnes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Bet on Red

      The SHeer hubris in that Home run walk bat toss as well

  20. Indy Red Man

    Glad Aquino hit a bomb, but you can’t swing at clear ball 3 on a 2-0 after the guy already walked the 2 guys in front of you. The baseball IQ on this team?

    • Jim Walker

      Both the swings and misses looked to be balls. They were straight and off the ground seemed to be his criteria.

  21. Tom Mitsoff

    Terrible call on that strike 3 to Barrero.

    • dhmorgan

      Yeah, it’s really sad. I feel for the guy.
      But if you are not hitting, chances are that you are not going to have the close calls go your way.

      • Mark Moore

        As evidence, Fraley had one even closer called a ball

    • Jim Walker

      Thought it was lower relative to his body all the way in than the ball 3 call Aquino got just ahead of the bomb

  22. William

    Votto has been my favorite player for years, but even I say he needs to start hitting to show the Reds need him at first base next year. He is going to need to hit very well the rest of the season to even gets the stats back to average. This season has been a disaster so far for him. I expected him to get going in June, but it has never really happened this year. There are some very good young prospects that they could place at first base next year. The Reds goal is a World Series championship. If Votto hits like this the rest of the year, he should consider retirement.

  23. Bet on Red

    I am begining to like Fraley, expecially against RHP

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Fraley is hitting way above his career stats coming into this season. Let’s hope he’s figuring things out in the majors. He still has less than two years of MLB experience and the Reds will have four years of control after this one.

      • Indy Red Man

        Well to be fair in 78 games last year, basically half a season, Fraley had 214 at-bats with 7 doubles, 9 Hrs, 46 walks, and 10 steals

        Thats some massive potential

  24. Indy Red Man

    Maybe we found out leadoff man vs righties? I really think India is best suited in the middle of the lineup long term

  25. Mark Moore

    That’ll play, Farm Dawg. That’ll play.

  26. Tom Mitsoff

    This game is on the blistering pace of well over four hours. 😉

    • Mark Moore

      Not including any potential rain delay 😮

  27. Indy Red Man

    Farmer is now 28 for 83 (.337) with risp. He’d be batting 8th on a contender, but he’s better then Barrero. I get that they want to play young guys, but when one is decisively better then the other then that is null and void in my book. Thats with Drury still on the roster of course

    • PTBNL

      It’s about future and potential, not the here and now on a non-playoff team. Barrerro has loads of potential and athleticism. How you going to know unless you give him a chance? The Reds are going nowhere this year. Where we gonna finish, last place? Doesn’t matter if Farmer or Barrero is starting at SS. We are last place no matter what.

      Remember, Farmer was pretty atrocious until he started getting consistent at bats to begin his Reds career.

    • Mark Moore

      Well it worked out in the end, didn’t it?

    • Melvin

      Looks like you don’t run on Barrero either. It wasn’t even close.

  28. Mark Moore

    Roasted Dead Duck Ian Happ … strong relay by Barrero.

  29. Mark Moore

    HP Chumpire continues with the flex-o-zone act

  30. Tom Mitsoff

    Too many fat pitches from Dunn.

  31. LDS

    Like the old cliche, if Dunn is the answer, what was the question?

    • Mark Moore

      What is … “Complete the phrase on and …”

  32. Bet on Red

    Dunn isn’t a starter…. maybe long relief, spot starter, but as soon as a candidate is avalible he should be pushed to the Bullpen

    • Mark Moore

      Probably the most likely case if he can stick. He was serviceable once again for 3 innings. Then the boom lowered … twice.

    • Hanawi

      Yeah. Looks like a middle reliever to me. Which would be good. Reds need some of those guys too.

  33. Mark A Verticchio

    Dunn is not the answer, he throws a 91-92 mile an hour fastball with very little movement = batting practice.

    • Mark Moore

      I’m thinking Cowboy said he was about 3mph slower than his “normal” had been. And if he can’t get some really freakish movement at the slower speed, it ends up being batting practice.

    • Mark Moore

      So +500 … I’m right with you on that.

  34. Indy Red Man

    Dunn looked electric when he first got to Seattle, but had health issues then. 102 ip 70 hits career wise I think coming into 2022, but he’s lost alot of velocity. Pitching in Seattle (or Oakland, Anaheim, etc) 100% different then pitching in Gabp as well. Doesn’t look good for him and thats too bad

    • Jim Walker

      I think the party line is the longer he pitches without the injury returning the greater velocity he should build to. So, that’s what they got 2 months to work with.

  35. Melvin

    Farmer was an average SS but is a very good at 3B.

    • Mark Moore

      As we often say, small sample but it certainly looks to be the case.

  36. Mark Moore

    We’ll take that from Romine. Of course, Billy Hamilton would have been on 3rd.

  37. Tom Mitsoff

    Fraley looks like he really has an idea what he’s doing. Pokes it through the vacated third-base hole.

    • Mark Moore

      Seems to have a solid plan and approach

  38. Bet on Red

    Lopez for Senzel? what is going on here?

    • Mark Moore

      And yet it worked. Maybe a lefty/righty thing by DTBell?

  39. Roger Garrett

    Reds trying to find out about Dunn but 91 center cut and 83 down and in get hit far enough at GABP to make the seats.

  40. Mark Moore

    That would count as a “productive out” yes?

    • Bet on Red

      yes, lopez does get the run in and the baserunning error is on Fraley

    • Jim Walker

      I guess if a person believes they needed to give the out at 3B to make sure Romine scored the tying run, that was a productive out.

      I have the audio off and closed caption on today. Whoever is working as the analyst seemed to think it was a mistake by Fraley because Romine was a lock to score regardless.

      • Mark Moore

        To be clear, I wasn’t necessarily talking about Fraley’s out. It was more the sacrifice of the AB by Lopez. But yeah, I’m in agreement.

  41. Mark A Verticchio

    Reds continue to make small mistakes that add up and the manager has to take responsibility for those mistakes. Yet Bell carries on, I just don’t get it.

    • Mark Moore

      His job is tied to the inept nepotism in the FO. It’s not that he’s such a terrible manager … more like he’s just so mediocre most of the time. And I know he’s got a hot steaming mess of a roster to work with.

      But the players love him and where else are we gonna go?

      • Roger Garrett

        Bell doesn’t throw any player under the bus and he will play his entire roster.He is loyal to vets regardless of how they perform and he is the biggest cheerleader.He holds no one accountable choosing to say only good things when there aren’t any.There are no expectations on him or the team to win so yes everybody loves him.

      • VegasRed

        Players love him based on what exactly?

        There are so many little stories about Bell but what I keep waiting for is winning and the hallmarks of winning like really solid base running, mental execution and defense. Bullpen management?

        Bell’s win percentage, even the few times he has had decent players, is well below winning.

        I don’t get why fans are content with Bell and his staff. And he sure hasn’t shown a propensity to foster development of young talent.

        Are Reds fans just convinced by the lousy ownership group that they can’t have nice things? That they have to just accept obviously flawed performance?

    • LDS

      Sure you do. He’s a member of the family and a “made man”. From the numerous folks here that think he’s blameless to those who blame the roster, all the way to those like me that want him gone, we are simply stuck with mediocrity.

      • Mark Moore

        +5,000 nailed it. Mediocrity on display.

  42. Mark Moore

    We’re getting Kuhnel?? I’m not liking that choice of the limited choices DTBell has.

  43. Mark Moore

    Nice job by AAJ to track that down.

  44. Tom Mitsoff

    Almora is about as good as it gets when it comes to tracking down balls in the outfield.

    • Mark Moore

      BHam would have been camped under that making a cup of coffee and waiting 😀

      • Tom Mitsoff

        Maybe. 😉 My feeling is, if there is a ball hit Almora’s way that he doesn’t catch, it wasn’t possible to catch it.

      • Mark Moore

        Yep. I’m seeing the same thing.

      • Jim Walker

        I think BHam might have been vertically challenged to complete that catch. 😉

      • Mark Moore

        Perhaps, Jim. But I don’t think it actually went that far. It did get there fast, though. Very fast.

  45. Mark A Verticchio

    Can you belief that Larkin said Votto is focused on getting a ring before he retires? Is he going to be traded this off season?

    • Mark Moore

      Reason #17 why I only use the WLW audio overlay unless it’s unavailable to me. Such a focus would make Joey just plain stupid IMO. And he’s definitely not stupid.

      • Mark Moore

        Unless he’s moving in the offseason like you mentioned.

  46. Mark Moore

    Donnie just keeps barreling up the balls.

  47. Hanawi

    I’ve been one of the biggest Votto defenders on this site, but he can’t catch up to anything right now. And he doesn’t hit any line drives. Everything is on the ground or a fly ball. Still think he could be productive if they played him 90-100 games next year with lots of off days against lefties. And mostly at DH.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      To me, his ideal role next year would be platoon DH with Solano. Probably not a popular opinion here, but all at-bats he’s getting now are pretty much counterproductive. He’s had a great career and is an all-time great, but he can’t do it any longer. Here we are in August still waiting for him to “figure out” his swing. I understand the ownership and management’s desire to show him respect, but I believe it’s counterproductive in the long run.

      • Hanawi

        Ideally the Reds would invest in better right-handed catcher and then rotate that person with Stephenson at C/1B/DH and Votto at 1B/DH. Might have to carry a 3rd catcher in that case though.

      • LT

        It seems quite easy to become an “all time great”. Just get an MVP makes a player an all time great? Reds did not win anything during his time. Oops, it’s Cincinnati, quite easy to become all time great in the queen city

      • Hanawi

        The loathing that some Cincinnati fans have for Votto, a homegrown star that has played his entire career in Cincinnati and will go into the HOF, is absolutely insane to me. He’s one of the five best hitters in Reds’ history. There is no argument about that. Maybe even top 3.

      • Old-school

        Votto is 2-26 in his last 7 games hitting.077
        In his last 30 games, hes hitting .196

      • LT

        He was a good hitter but never a leader. He’s become terrible in the past 5 years in my view, tried to be a leader but in a weird way with his mouth and his antics. None of that matters IMO. Right now right here as part of this team, he’s useless, and that’s what matters to me.

      • LT

        Also, he has never been a gamer, more on the gutless side.

  48. LDS

    Votto is something like 2-29 PAs in the last week. That’s worse than Senzel, Aquino, or Barrero. He should be thankful for Paperski. When coupled with his woeful defensive play, it’s sad to see him abuse his legacy. He’s past Walker now. Sit down and announce his retirement. Age appears to have finally triumphed.

  49. Mark Moore

    I just checked the clock … we’re still in the 5th inning? For crying out loud … there has to be a way to speed these games up.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      We’re about 2:20 into the game in the fifth. 🙂 That was a whole game when I was a kid.

  50. Mark Moore

    I was just about to comment about the Free-Swinging Twins dumping a bucket of ice water on the inning … and then THAT happens. Nice job by Jose taking 2nd on the deal.

  51. Tom Mitsoff

    We have to thank the Cubs for not throwing Barrero a low-and-away slider on that 2-2 pitch.

    • DaveCT

      That said, Barrero is electric and unlike many if not most others on the roster. Lots to dream on if he can harness his talent

      • Tom Mitsoff

        Perhaps so, but he has to cut down on striking out on more than 50 percent of plate appearances. Nobody can last while that’s going on.

  52. Hanawi

    Appreciate someone throwing Barrero anything inside the strikezone with 2 strikes.

  53. Bet on Red

    Romine needs to be the starting catcher going forward

  54. Mark Moore

    Somebody tell me again why Pap is taking up a spot on the 26 and 40?

    Nice job by the Lettuce Guy to play some add-on.

  55. Jim Walker

    Bell needs to talk with Romine to determine how many games a week he has in his body then use him that often.

    • Mark Moore


      DTBell may need a little help from Bull Krall on that front (suggesting to DFA Pap).

    • Mark Moore

      I’m thinking he handles the younger pitchers better as well. They miss TySteve a lot less with him than with Pap.

  56. Roger Garrett

    Bottom of the order getting it done.

  57. LT

    Turn out to be a great game, back and forth. Let’s snap the losing street Reds

  58. Roger Garrett

    Boy Bell is messing with me.Sanmartin for one third of an inning and Kuhnel back out for his second inning.I know that wasn’t scripted so there may be hope or maybe not.

    • Mark Moore

      That’s the stuff that gets me. He sticks with a lesser pitcher and goes way short on one who appears to be better. Just baffling to me.

  59. Roger Garrett

    Joey ain’t helping at all right now.Times to rest him for a bit.Sore back or sore leg on a day to day basis of course.I hate to see whats happening to him.

  60. Tom Mitsoff

    Regarding Larkin’s comment that Farmer is playing a great third base: My eye test says Farmer is playing third better than anyone else on the team. But lack of range is still a factor, as it was when he was playing shortstop. His best role will be as the backup infielder who gets starts against lefties.

    • Mark Moore

      And then he does that little move.

      I think 2023 without the shift will make a difference. His more limited range shouldn’t have the same impact.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        My reference to range was more about side to side. Notably, there was the ball hit by him down the leftfield line for a double early in today’s game. My first thought was that someone with a bit more range would at least have gotten a glove on it.

    • Daytonnati

      Exactly. It is all relative. I bet Barry had no problem putting his kids to sleep while reading bedtime stories 🙂 (Sorry Barry, I love you, but maybe you and Sam should swap roles?)

      • Mark Moore

        I’d take that if Same took Sadak’s role and we swapped in Welsh and Cowboy for the color analyst. Or Annie 😀

    • Jim Walker

      Agree on range in general; and, also at 3B the guy has to have a quick twitch reaction on some plays which today at least I haven’t seen from Farmer.

      Spencer Steer at AAA (Mahle trade return) is looking like he could be in play for an MLB slot as early as next spring.

      Most have IDed Steer as a guy coming off SS to 3b/2b/corner OF. If Barrero bombs out, they could put Steer at SS till the next man up is ready. However, if Barrero sticks, Steer would seem to be in play for 3B or 2B (with India moving to his more natural 3b).

  61. Roger Garrett

    Ok nation will we see Hunter today and if we do what inning?

  62. Bet on Red

    I get why he gets second, but why does Jose get third?

    • Mark Moore

      It deflected off Gomes and went out of play.

  63. Mark Moore

    Thank you Mr. Gomes for attempting that heroic stop that results in Barrero being on 3rd instead of 2nd.

  64. Reddawg2012

    Welp, Hunter Strickland is in the game. Time to see what’s new on Netflix I guess.

  65. Mark Moore

    Tying run to the plate … courtesy of you-know-who

    • Mark Moore

      And the winning run at the plate …

      DTBell sees his shadow and makes a change. Need Diaz for 1.2 to finish it.

  66. Tom Mitsoff

    There comes a point when you as a manager make a move over and over and over and over and it doesn’t pay off, and maybe you think about trying something else? If Strickland must continue to be used, make it in mop-up times. Way ahead or way behind.

    • Mark Moore

      Right. And 3 runs is not WAY ahead.

    • RedsGettingBetter

      II would say just way behind … it’s Pathetic…

    • LDS

      At least he didn’t play Diaz and leave Strickland for the 9th. For Bell, that’s a huge change

    • Reddawg2012

      I try to like David Bell (and I still do) but this is the stuff that makes it really hard.

  67. LDS

    Tell me again why Strickland is still on the roster

    • Mark Moore

      I’m stumped … I got nothing

  68. MK

    Does Strickland have naked pictures of David Bell’s wife. Why is he still on the team. Art Warren has looked good this week in his rehab so hopefully today is Strickland’s last on the roster.

  69. Mark Moore

    Alexis … Do NOT walk the first batter!!!

  70. Mark Moore

    And he has to face Happ … way too much drama for me.

  71. LT

    Diaz ends up pitching the 8th anyway 🙂

    • Mark Moore

      At least Strickland is no longer available to DTBell for the 9th.

      • LT

        For sure. But my point is with this bullpen Bell really doesn’t have many good arms to pick and choose

  72. Tom Mitsoff

    THAT was some top-notch clutch late inning pitching.

  73. Mark Moore

    Happ goes from wannabe hero to free swinging goat courtesy of Alexis Diaz.

  74. Randy in Chatt

    And boys we have a long time closer……..and his name is not Strickland

    • Daytonnati

      “Jolene” really beginning to grate.

  75. Mark Moore

    My eyes tell me those last two pitches were almost identical.

    Doesn’t matter as Lopez ropes a little looper.

  76. RedsGettingBetter

    Alexis Díaz can’t be alone in that bullpen. It is obvious the FO should land 1 or 2 reliable relievers from FA or trades since we don’t know how will be the Antone and Sims shape in 2023…

  77. Jim Walker

    If I saw that K of Happ correctly that was a bit of a strange play. It looked like Romine did not catch the 3rd strike cleanly. Because there were 2 outs, Happ was NOT out automatically because of 1B being occupied as he would have been with 0 or 1 out and 1B occupied.

    However with the bases loaded, instead of tagging Happ or throwing to 1B to retire him, Romine picked up the ball and stepped on the plate to retire the runner coming home from 3B.

    So, as Marty used to say, if you are scoring along, I believe that was a fielder’s choice 2 unassisted to retire the runner at home (and technically Happ reached on the play??)

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I believe you are correct, sir.

    • MK

      Technically it would be just a K 2 unassisted. I’m a minor league official scorer and New York would over rule me if I called it a Fielders Choice.

      • Jim Walker

        Interpretations change over the years and in various organizations. 😉

        I will yield to the present but note I was brought up that the fielder’s choice must be scored because the man retired on the force out was the man coming from 3B to home not the batter.

  78. Mark Moore

    Tried to circle that one instead of fielding it straight on

  79. Mark Moore

    Need to focus on Wisdom. Don’t get distracted by the runners.

  80. Mark Moore

    If I’m AAJ, I think I let AA take that just incase the runner decides to tag.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      There is no reason that guy shouldn’t be closer. But what do I know? 😉

  81. Mark Moore

    That’ll do it. Win, save, and pizza.

  82. Bet on Red

    That will do, lets start this overdue 20 game win streak

  83. LT

    Impressive Diaz, overcoming Strickland n Barrero to close the game, getting 5 outs.

    • PTBNL

      Barrero had two hits a run scored and and rbi. He was hardly a liability in this game. Sheesh.

      • JB

        And threw Happ out at the plate. Yep overcame his awful game.

    • LT

      Gentleman, I am not talking the entire game. I am talking about Diaz inheriting 2 men on base from Strickland, hence overcoming Strickland, and error Barrero committed in 9 inning, hence overcoming Barrero, to close the game. Yes, Barrero has a good game overall

  84. Steve Schoenbaechler

    Another typical misuse of the bullpen by Bell. Even if Strickland was successful, there was no reason to pull Farmer.

    Some people here have stated that Bell is thinking of matchups, which would include looking at the numbers. Well, when you look at some other numbers, also, he should realize we have one of if not the worst bullpen in the league. Where, when you get a reliever to have a clean inning, the numbers would call for you not to replace him with another reliever from the worst bullpen in the league. You put that one right back out there for a 2nd inning. If you need to pull him during that inning, fine. If not, even better.

    To be even more specific, I wouldn’t allow them to pitch more than 2 innings at a time, unless it’s our long man back there, which every team should have a long man back there, able to go as many as 4-5 innings at a time of not more.

    • Kevin H

      If you allow a pitcher to pitch two innings at a time as a bullpen pitcher. You not only run risk of injury, you will burn your pen out. Also, who would you use as you said the bullpen is terrible. It is terrible and half of the bullpen on dl as well.

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        For Kevin H, first, that’s why I specified “clean inning”. Where, also, I specified, if the second inning isn’t going clean, then you pull him.

        Second, all the players run risk of injury on every throw, every play they make. Plenty of relievers will pitch more than an inning with no problem. So, your point there is irregardless.

        Third, “who would you use as you said the bullpen is terrible”, that’s why I specified if you have one out there that had a clean inning. Sure, to decide who the first reliever is out there, it could be “luck of the draw”. But, if that pitcher has a clean inning, you are trying to justify taking him out and going with another pick from the worst pen in the league? It simply doesn’t make any sense.

        Now, after the second inning, assuming that the reliever goes 2 innings (where I specified I wouldn’t pitch them more than 2 innings, unless it was the long man), then again, the manager would have to go with the “luck of the draw”. For, you almost can’t worry about matchups. You need pitchers to simply be able to get outs.

        Now, if we had the best pen in the league, where it had not nothing but potential closers, then we could have the luxury of worrying about matchups and making sure everyone gets some work in. But, when we have the worst pen in the league, we don’t have that luxury. It’s just like why have a closer if the team is going to lose 100+ games. It wouldn’t make sense to worry about having a closer when the team needs so much more.

    • Roger Garrett

      I have to admit Bell messed me up.He goes one third of an inning with Sanmartin then 2 innings with Kuhnel then one inning and 11 pitches with Farmer.Then I guess it was 1 inning for Hunter and Diaz for the ninth.He is way smarter then I am but well he is just way smarter then I am.

      • Steve Schoenbaechler

        No, you’re not smarter than Bell on this one. Bell might know other things we don’t. But, not on this one.

        I mean, basic coaching 101, put your team in the best position to win the game. After a reliever from the worst pen in the league pitches a clean inning, do you:

        1) Replace them with another pitcher from that same pen immediately, or
        2) Let them go back out for a second inning, since they showed one clean inning.

        The answer is obviously the latter. For, with this pen, the more you use them, the worse chance they have to win the game.

  85. Roger Garrett

    Yeah you can always lose the game in the 7th or 8th but Diaz needs to close from here on in.I want him out there in the ninth if we have a lead.His stuff is electric.

    • LDS

      Diaz – looks like it’s in the blood

      • Roger Garrett

        Yeah it probably is in the blood.He has the stuff and that arm angle I guess is where he gets the movement.Comes right at you.I could see him saving a bunch of games for the Reds.