The Cincinnati Reds picked up a walk-off win on Sunday over the Braves and they’ll try to carry that energy forward this evening as they welcome the New York Mets to town. Cincinnati will send Hunter Greene to the mound to face off against Taijuan Walker. First pitch is set for 6:40pm. The game is the free game of the day on MLB.tv (out of market only).

Starting Lineups

Here are the lineups for tonight’s game:

New York Mets

Cincinnati Reds

Brandon Nimmo – CF Jonathan India – 2B
Starling Marte – RF Brandon Drury – 3B
Francisco Lindor – SS Tommy Pham – LF
Pete Alonso – 1B Joey Votto – 1B
Jeff McNeil – 2B Mike Moustakas – DH
Eduardo Escobar – 3B Albert Almora Jr. – RF
Mark Canha – LF Nick Senzel – CF
Dominic Smith – DH Matt Reynolds – SS
Tomas Nido – DH Aramis Garcia – C
Taijuan Walker – SP Hunter Greene – SP

Aramis Garcia returns to the lineup today after missing the past few games behind the plate. Jonathan India is back in the lineup after being a late scratch yesterday despite it being called a “day of rest”.

Starting Pitchers

Pitcher IP ERA WHIP BB K
Hunter Greene 74.0 5.72 1.34 32 93
Taijuan Walker 72.2 2.72 1.17 21 52
Links: Hunter Greene’s Stats | Taijuan Walker’s Stats

Hunter Greene

After a nice stretch over seven starts for Hunter Greene from early May through mid-June, he’s struggled the last three times out – giving up five homers and 13 runs in just 14.0 innings.

The splits are pretty extreme for Hunter Greene. Right-handed hitters are crushing the ball against him, hitting 13 home runs and posting a of .905. Lefties aren’t having nearly the same kind of success. They are hitting for a little bit of power against him, but they have a .200 average and just a .709 OPS against him.

Splits

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB K AVG OBP SLG
RHH 166 40 7 0 13 13 45 .267 .331 .573
LHH 156 27 7 0 7 19 48 .200 .301 .407

Pitch Usage

4-Seam Slider Change
Velo 98.5 87.6 89.6
Usage 50.7% 43.9% 5.4%

Taijuan Walker

It’s been a good first half for Taijuan Walker. He has been incredible at home (1.86 ERA) and good on the road (3.30 ERA). All three of the home runs he’s allowed this season have come on the road.

The splits from batters are a bit different. Both righties and lefties are hitting .235 against him, but lefties walk significantly more and hit for more power against him than right-handed hitters do.

Splits

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB K AVG OBP SLG
RHH 177 40 7 0 1 7 28 .235 .266 .294
LHH 116 24 4 1 2 14 21 .235 .328 .353

Pitch Usage

4-Seam 2-Seam Cutter Slider Curve Splitter
Velo 94.0 93.1 89.0 85.1 75.0 88.8
Usage 30.0% 8.1% 6.6% 17.5% 8.1% 29.6%

When and Where

  • Game time: 6:40pm ET
  • Where: Great American Ball Park
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio, MLB.tv (Free game of the day, out of market)
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 90°, partly cloudy, 0% chance of rain

News and Notes

Art Warren to the IL, Mark Kolozsvary called up

Tyler Stephenson begins rehab tonight

The catcher will begin his rehab assignment tonight with the Triple-A Louisville Bats. It’s been nearly a month since Stephenson broke his thumb after taking a foul ball off of his non-glove hand.

148 Responses

  1. LDS

    Votto and Moose holding down the 4-5 slots, unconscionable. Moose is 1-10 with 7 SOs and Votto only marginally better, though he’s walked a bit.

    • Kevin H

      Votto has hit in May and June. His stats while not overwhelming are decent. Batting average over 250.

      I realize he is on a down swing, however take away his April and he has been solid.

      • Votto4life

        RichS,
        It’s all relative. There are only three Reds players hitting better than .250 in the Red’s line up.

        A lot of hate for Joey Votto. Everyone loves Jonathon India and he is hitting .217.

      • Luke J

        Votto4life, India was hitting .295 when he was injured. He hasn’t had enough plate appearances to be significant so his struggles in the few games since he’s been back disproportionately affect his average. But it also means a couple big games can jimp that average very quickly. His sample is still miniscule.

      • Jim

        Kevin, Have you Not been to any games in May & June this year? He has been a big part of the Reds not winning!
        And I am the biggest Votto fan around.

      • Votto4life

        Luke, India has a little 100 more at bats than Joey Votto.

        Joey Votto OPS .718
        Leave Average OPS .707
        Jonathan India OPS .574

      • Votto4life

        * India has a little over 100 fewer at bats than Joey Votto.

    • William

      Votto’s replacement at 1B is probably going to show up in a coming trade or draft. Stephenson is a possibility, but I like him a catcher. I see no reason to not let Votto play. I am all for giving Barrero a chance at Shortstop, once he starts hitting in AAA, or any other player that might help the Reds in 2024. Votto is still a big part of the Reds right now.

  2. Kevin H

    Hopefully Greene bounces back and can locate his pitches. He is the future!!

    A fun few days ahead with Greene, Lodolo, and Ashcraft.. let’s Go!!

  3. Mariners77

    Great July 4th evening for a ballgame. Low humidity and a nice breeze, fireworks after. In keeping with the Riverfront thread from earlier – regardless of the circumstances this season, sometimes it’s just magical to be at the ballpark!

  4. Shane C. Montgomery

    I have been expecting Votto to turn things around any day now and still hold out hope that he will. Not ready to give up on him yet.

  5. Votto4life

    I read today that the Reds are on pace to lose 106 games this season.

    Do you guys think Bob and Phil even believe they have a problem? Or do you think they just chalk it up to bad luck, injuries and the like?

    If you think they realize they have a problem, do you think they will address it this off season or just keep the management team they have in place?

    I would love to know what you guys think. Thanks!

    • Jim t

      If ownership isn’t going to invest in upgrading personnel changing field management will not matter.

    • Mariners77

      V4L – sorry for being off topic, but loved your post in the earlier thread about your father and Riverfront Stadium! Your reminisce about him painting his (and your mom’s!) names on the stadium made me recall that back when GABP was almost finished, for a series at Riverfront they had a girder on the concourse and sharpies available for fans to sign their names. Have wondered from time to time where exactly that beam is in the new ballpark…

      • Votto4life

        Thank Mariners! I spook you the filmmaker who made the documentary about my dad painting his and my moms name on the stadium. He said he came across the story when he was researching Riverfront Stadium. That made me happy!

    • Randy in Chatt

      I would like to know Big Bob and PC’s plan. Are they re-setting and looking for the team to contend in a couple years? Are they just sitting back and taking in all of the TV money and not caring and this is their long term plan? Are they looking at reselling the team soon to real baseball people? These questions need to be answered so that real Reds fans know what to expect.
      What is their long term plan?

    • Michael Wilson

      Me thinks they are ok with tanking. Even Bell kind of sounds like he is not much interested in the wins and losses. Even if the youngsters come on strong I don’t think this ownership will ever go all in.

    • Old-school

      @V4L

      I’m not arguing with you. You are a great reds fan and have been through a ton.

      I do think ownership and FO is committed to 2024 and finally rebuilding and this year needs to move on from a roster of old guys.

      • Daytonnati

        Jocketty went all-in in 2012 and Williams did in 2019. Historically, the Castellinis have been willing to take some risks and spend some cash. OTOH, this could be a liquidation sale to make the team more attractive to sell?

      • Votto4life

        Old School. Thank you. I know you are a real reds fan too. I’m really not delusional. I know Joey is about done, my main point is that there is so many things wrong with this team he is not the first player I would point at.

        Like you, I also wish the Reds would go with younger players. I just don’t know who they are. Let’s face it, other than India and Stephenson the cover is nearly bare.

        I mentioned earlier this year that I didn’t see a lot in the minors to be all that excited about but was told Baseball America had rated our system really high. Well, here we are 4 months later and the Red’s system hasn’t produced much at all this year. Maybe they are yet to come. But, if you are a young, talented player this seems like the year you would make yourself known.

        I don’t know what the answer is but I do hope Reds ownership cares about winning. Because if they don’t care and have no plan, then it’s going to be a long wait for all of us.

  6. Roger Garrett

    Votto will go down as an all time great Red.I said a few days ago the Reds need to look closely at him as to how to handle his decline and the fact he may just fall off a cliff.I don’t think for a second he will take a secondary role as part time DH on his own and if he doesn’t it will get really bad.Nobody wants any more for him then Reds fans but it just it what it is cause the numbers don’t lie.Now we know there are many many many other issues and the Reds are 2 years away at best and numerous players away from competing in the worst division in baseball regardless of what he does or doesn’t do.His legacy should not be defined by his last 2 years at 39 and 40 but it will be if he continues to play.I would hope the Reds have enough class to step in and make sure that doesn’t happen

  7. Jim Walker

    The word on Art Warren’s injury got me wondering about the possible connection between his announced injury and UCL injury resulting in TJ surgery.

    Statistically, It sounds like there is a significant chance (on the order of 20%) Warren could end up a TJ candidate within a year or two.

    Also depending on the severity, just the flexor strain could involve a 6-8 week recovery time expanding to 6 months if surgery is eventually required for that condition.

    Here’s a link to the study about the connection between forearm strains and UCL. It is doc talk at points but the bottom line is the study indicated 20% of pitchers with forearm muscle strains have Tommy John surgery within a year.

    https://www.drahmadsportsmedicine.com/forearm-muscle-strains-alarming-relationship-ucl-injuries/

  8. Indy Red Man

    Caution:

    Joey Spin Doctors at work! 6 hrs or whatever in a bandbox. 1 hr on the road and ops below .600. Played for 14 years or whatever, but still runs the bases with awareness like tball kids wearing jeans.
    He’s not miraculously getting younger either. It’s over

    • Indy Red Man

      It’s the baserunning and defense for me. Ole’ is not just for bullfighters. Joey ole’s every hard shot instead of using that 230 to soak one up for the team. To me it’s like a NBA player that’s only interested in scoring.

      I’ll never forget that 1st playoff in Atlanta when he ran back to 2nd on Geno’s single instead of scoring in that 0-0 game. Geno got to first and looked across at him with daggers in his eyes!! I was 53 then and could’ve jogged home

      • Indy Red Man

        Duvall shaded to left-center and had to run 30 yards to get to the ball. Votto and miggy Cheeseburger Cabrera probably only 2 in mlb don’t score there

    • Kevin H

      I get it you don’t like Votto. Your “spin doctor ” reference hilarious..

      Yet you want Schrock to play, Let’s also talk about India not hitting. Stephenson always hurt. Let’s talk about that. LOL

      • Shane C. Montgomery

        If there are two outs and a runner on and the Reds are down one, there is still no one I would rather see walk up to the plate than Votto. He has been clutch for so long.

      • Indy Red Man

        Not Vottos fault they gave him insane 10 year deal. And he raked last year. I’m not always (or often?) rational but he’s the star of the team and it’s like the QB catching heat when the team loses. Its not all on his shoulders.

        Great Red and HOFer no doubt about it

  9. Jim Walker

    It is so Reds that on the night Garcia returns to the lineup they get around to calling up another catcher.

    Does this mean poor Papierski has an injury himself or is so used up he can’t go in a pinch?

    Or, is it because the Reds literally don’t have an uninjured pitcher available on the 40 man roster to fill the open roster spot of Art Warren?
    .

    • Jim

      It was fun watching the young Reds celebrate after the walk off win last night! That’s all I need to enjoy the Reds. Looks like after next years Salary Dump of highly paid players and the new crop of good pitchers, 2024 and beyond looks promising!

    • Redsvol

      looks like they have 1 in Louisville – Solomon. 1 pitcher on the entire 40 man roster who either isn’t active or injured. That’s just incredible when I think about it.

      They have to stop letting their starters go 4 or 5 innings. We won’t have a bullpen in August at this rate.

  10. Bet on Red

    Votto isn’t the problem, He is still serviceable, Its a moose that is severely underperforming.

    Warren’s injury is interesting, since he recently pitched. May actually explain some of his performance issues

    • LDS

      Votto has left a ton of runners on base the last couple of weeks. If you’re going to play him, move him down in the batting order. I’d rather see Senzel in the #4 slot than Votto. The other option is swap Votto w/Drury, that’s about as protected as Votto can get in this lineup. But no, Joey’s ego is more important than winning and Bell will stick with the old guys, making the big bucks.

      • Daytonnati

        If memory serves, Votto batted #2 and #3 during the Dusty era? I remember a parade of clean-up guy including Brandon Phillips.

      • LDS

        Different time though. Votto was a much better hitter then. And so far, don’t think anyone has exactly filled Phillips shoes.

  11. JB

    We just talked about this yesterday Jim. No reason for Okey Or Kolzy not to have been called up. But no they let a guy they just picked up and basically every team didn’t want.

    • Jim Walker

      Honestly, I thought Papierski has looked better as a receiver than Okey had. Haven’t seen Kolozsvary at the MLB level this season but he looked pretty sharp in minimum exposure last season.

      • LDS

        My guess is that when Stephenson is activated, one of the current 3 will be DFA’d. My guess is Koz. At some point, the Reds FO has to make the hard decisions. There’s a logjam of folks coming up.

  12. JB

    I get blacked out every time by MLB TV when the Reds play the Mets. But I get every game on the Mets station all year long. So I just watch the game on SNY.

  13. Indy Red Man

    Not Vottos fault they gave him insane 10 year deal. And he raked last year. I’m not always (or often?) rational but he’s the star of the team and it’s like the QB catching heat when the team loses. Its not all on his shoulders.

    Great Red and HOFer no doubt about it

    • Jim

      I agree he is a HOF guy
      I also agree his time has expired.

  14. Bet on Red

    Why does Garcia remind me of Nacho Varga of Better Call Saul

      • Daytonnati

        Poor Nacho. Deserved a better fate.

      • Bet on Red

        indeed, at least his dad survives, I am really interested in finding out what happens to kim.

    • Jim Walker

      what the Reds need is a couple of no nonsense guys like the those twins in Saul and Breaking Bad.

      • Daytonnati

        GABP giveth … GABP taketh away 🙂

  15. Jeff Morris

    Fyi….Amir Garrett for the Royals walked two, and gave up a two run hit vs the Astros. His ERA is at 6.30…..so no loss there for the Reds. Amir is who we thought he was, no change from last year to this year.

    • Bill

      Getting rid of Garrett was good, taking on the $9 million contract attached to Minor in return was not.

  16. Jeff Morris

    I would say resign Luis Castillo. You know what you are getting, which he is a decent pitcher, with a track record of having decent years. If you trade him, for a handful of prospects, you are rolling the dice….you are getting unproven AA or AAA players that may not pan out for the Reds. Just remember Robert Stephenson, Nick Travieso, Drew Stubbs, and the jury is still out overall on Nick Senzel. But….knowing the Reds, they don’t care, if they can get a handful of players cheaply and not pay very much, that is all the owner cares about! Not about winning, its how much I can make money on this Reds thing, and keep my payroll down, while pocketing all the profits!

    • Bill

      They drafted all the guys you mentioned, Castillo actually was acquired by trade so they do get it right occasionally

  17. Roger Garrett

    Greene obviously is going to learn the hardd way.A walk and hit a guy in the first and starts the 2nd with another walk.Just can’t do that in the big leagues but he is only 22 and what potential.Off season work will be crucial as he develops.

  18. Jim Walker

    If Votto could have gotten his feet/body moving on that pick off attempt, the Metz would only be ahead by 2 instead of 3.

  19. VaRedsFan

    Too many sliders.
    Give him the heater

  20. Roger Garrett

    That ought to do it.Kid can’t master the zone yet.

  21. Jeff Morris

    Heck….for that matter we don’t know yet about Hunter Greene, he has potentional…so we can only hope he will be a decent pitcher. Same thing with Nick Lodolo and Brandon Williamson, ect….why not resign a pretty sure thing in Luis Castillo and maybe even Tyler Mahle.

    • Old-school

      Is Luis Castillo a sure thing in 2026,27,28? because signing Castillo means $130 MILLION THRU 2028. Ive got no sure things in 2023. you have sure things past 2025 and $80 million 25-28?

  22. Bet on Red

    Brandon DRURY…….. Lets go!!!!!

  23. Mark A Verticchio

    Drury definitely deserves to be an all star. What happens after that is anybodies guess?

  24. Roger Garrett

    Drury may bring something at the break.Glad to see him do what he is doing.If not for Moose and Solano going down he probably is in the minors.Don’t know what the Reds are thinking or even if they are but one would wonder if he would take a 2 year deal with an opt on year 3.Could do worse.We shall see.

  25. Moon

    Minor….ex Brave. Pham…ex Padre. Drury…ex Met. Reds have players that love to pay back their ex teams.

    • VaRedsFan

      Angel Hernandez… nothing more needs to be said

    • Roger Garrett

      I think its Angel Hernandez and well he has graded out pretty bad behind the plate for years.

  26. VaRedsFan

    Votto since June 10th
    .225 Avg/.338 slugging …1 HR ( in the 15-7 blowout loss to the Cubs)

    • Old-school

      Dont go there Va.

      Votto and Moose arent the problem despite fWAR stats showing they are worst corner infields in MLB. Their salaries dont matter either . Irrelevant. Their stats dont matter either.

      Votto on Tuesdays at GABP against lefty pitchers with Moustaches is hitting .320.

    • Mark A Verticchio

      I keep hearing what a good May and June he had. Those stats don’t bear that out. I don’t know how everybody feels but, as a long time Reds fan watching Votto now is just brutal and even worse very sad. I just don’t think things are going to get better. He may have a few brief moments but I am afraid he is done and for Reds fans that is hard to accept but, it happens to everybody. There has to be an exit plan acceptable to both sides and playing every day and batting 4th isn’t it.

      • VaRedsFan

        That’s why I looked it up since people were saying the May
        June Stats were helping them when games.

        They won games in May when he hit well.

  27. Roger Garrett

    Greene bringing it at 98 now.Might as well let it go buddy.One or two more innings and keep us in the game and well another start under his belt.

  28. docproc

    Batting Votto and Moose 4th and 5th is lunacy.
    Please sign Drury to a 2-3 year team-friendly deal.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I agree completely. This team has no position players (except for the possibility of Barrero) ready to graduate from the minors to the big league starting lineup. The trade return for Drury won’t be outstanding because this might be viewed by rival GMs as a fluke year. For the same reason, the Reds would seemingly stand a chance to be competitive in contract talks.

  29. VaRedsFan

    Greene dialing it up to 100 now.
    I wonder if they are making him keep it mid 90’s early in the game?

  30. Old-school

    Brandon Drury is way better than Eugenio Suarez and his 36 million through 2024 at 3b making less than a million. What do you do with that?

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Try to sign Drury a two-year extension.

      He turns 30 in August.

      • VaRedsFan

        Drury might be looking for more, and will get it if he keeps producing like this

      • Old-school

        Just dont give Krall any credit.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        Keep in mind that for his CAREER, Drury has 1.2 WAR. That includes 0.6 this year.

      • Old-school

        I’d go to Drury and ask him if he wants to play everyday and get a life changing contract or be traded to a big market team as an insurance policy? Give him a $1 million signing bonus and $6 million in 2023 and $8 million in 2024 and a starting job in MLB. Thats $15 million in new money or go be a utility guy with no guaranteed money in a big market again and be a FA this off-season.. What’s it going to be?

      • Old-school

        @ Tom.. Drury has fWAR of 1.9 and that before his HR today. If 1 WAR is worth 9 mil or so ,,hes providing a lot of value this year on a team with lots of players not doing so.

        It’s time to sign him or trade him

  31. Mark A Verticchio

    Greene must come up with a change up to use against left handed batters.

    • VaRedsFan

      Yes.
      Or a split.
      Whichever one he can command better.

  32. VaRedsFan

    What can you say when someone turns on a mph heater like he (Lindor) knew it was coming?

    • Tom Mitsoff

      He had a 50 percent chance of being right. 😉 (fastball and slider are Greene’s only options he’ll use in key counts)

  33. Kevin H

    Man India not hitting at all. Needs to sit or moved down in the order. Not helping this team (sarcasm)

  34. Doc

    Greene has now struggled the last four times out. Certainly not convincing that he should be in MLB rather than AAA. Must lead the world in HR allowed by now.

  35. Bet on Red

    yea, another non quality start, another bashing. Another 2 pitch pitcher. Needs a third pitch, less we just gave the biggest bonus in history for a glorified closer

    • Jb

      Rookie pitcher who didn’t pitch for 2 1/2 years before last year. He is 22 years old. There are alot of guys who sucked their first or 2nd year. Who else would you like to pitch?

  36. Mark A Verticchio

    Sometimes these young pitchers just have to take their licks. Luckily the Reds are in a situation where he really not hurting the team. Its not really luck just a sad fact.

  37. Kevin H

    And more inherited runners score off this bullpen. I wonder what the starters Era would look like if the bullpen held.. Of course when you don’t have a bullpen what is one to do.

    • LDS

      And Sanmartin has had his three. Pull him. Don’t wait to see how much more damage he can cause

    • VaRedsFan

      Now Sadak can keep saying how good SanMartin has been, since he didn’t give up any “earned runs” of his own

  38. VaRedsFan

    Dom Smith…I haven’t had a hit off a lefty all year.
    Reds: You haven’t seen our leftys

    • Roger Garrett

      Our lefty has to get Smith and he didn’t.Right now and from here on out if I am a reliever in the Reds organization or even projected to be long man I am walking to Cincy for a tryout.Got to be somebody that can come in and get hitters out.

  39. AMDG

    Kinda feel bad for our starting pitchers when they get pulled mid-inning, since the bullpen is guaranteed to let all of the inherited runners score.

    If the runners are going to score, i’d rather see the starter give them up than watch an inept bullpen do it for them.

  40. Kevin H

    I will say Greene has pitched better than his record. Not lately mind you, but could easily have 6 wins. Not that it matters. I do believe he has a solid future as a starter m just growing pains this season

  41. Old-school

    So safe to say HUnter Green is pushing 20 starts and he and the pitching whisperer Derek Johnson arent making any strides forward. Whats Derek Johnson being paid for if he cant take the Si Cover boy who throws 102 and make him be an effective MLB pitcher? Thats his job.

    Derek’s Johnson’s #1 job is to develop young pitching. How’s that working out?

    • VaRedsFan

      Don’t get me started about DJ.
      Now another one of his max effort, high spin rate guys might be heading for Tommy John. Art Warren

    • LDS

      Aside from Gray a couple of years ago, what are DJ’s successes? The Reds have a lot of blown out arms, a lot of SOs, and a lot of BBs. But, not a lot of wins.

      • kdavis

        Cionel Perez has a 1.03 ERA after today’s game for the Orioles,

        Before he got hurt Jimmy Hergot had a 3.72 ERA for the Angels in 30 games.

        These guys had very limited exposure with the Reds and some how the team (pitching coach) decided they weren’t good enough.

        I wonder if there have been any analysis on what effect spin rate has on injuries.

    • Luke J

      Yeah, I’m sick of Reds pitchers nibbling and searching for strikeouts, meanwhile piling up ridiculous pitch counts. Greene has the stuff to get strikeouts anyway. They need to attack hitters and pound the zone. All the Reds pitchers do it, and that’s on DJ.

  42. Daytonnati

    Young Joey would have smoked that last one.

  43. VaRedsFan

    It might be time for Votto to :

    Change his walkup music.

    • Daytonnati

      No question, he raked to “Paint It Black” as I recall.

    • JB

      Totally just thinking that. I’ve had enough of Jolene.

    • Bet on Red

      His performance may be in question, the fact that he needs to change the music is not in question

  44. Old-school

    Votto is now 0-12 in July and hitting .212 for the year.
    Moose and Votto are in a race for the Mendoza line.
    So much UC for the Joey Votto is hot narrative.

    I do thing we need Indy and Bet on Red to handicap the Moose and Votto race for negative WAR for the year. I guess I’d take votto over Moose because of walks.

  45. JB

    Every time the Reds bullpen comes in the game becomes excruciatingly slow.

  46. Roger Garrett

    I will stay and see Senzel hit but Cessa is just awful.

  47. Bet on Red

    Reds Trade deadline and Offseason will also need to focus on revamping that bullpen

  48. Mark A Verticchio

    Man India has not played well at all since he came. I have said earlier I just don’t like the way he is carrying himself on the field or the way he is playing. You could tell Pham was upset he dropped that tag, can’t blame him.

  49. LDS

    The bullpen isn’t doing well. But the question is why does Bell stick with a guy when he’s being pounded? We know Cessa can pitch better. He did last year. So what has changed?

    • Kevin H

      LDS who would you go to. This pen is Terrible. And the Cesa question is fair and valid. I would like to know that as it makes no sense..

      • LDS

        KevinH, it goes to the accountability argument. Bell let’s them keep pitching regardless of performance. He then makes inane, meaningless post game comments like “working through it”. That’s an issue. Pull them when they aren’t performing, even if he has to go to Schrock for 4 innings. Same with hitters. Moose is around 2-13 with 9 SOs, yet he’s still starting and in the #5 slot. He should be on the bench until he shows he’s in athletic shape and has taken so many practice swings that he finds a groove. Just not a serious organization.

  50. Kevin H

    Fair to say this bullpen worse than last years pen? If that is possible

    • JB

      It’s like they have a pact out there In the bullpen. Everybody has to give up a run.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Reds’ relief ERA this year: 5.70. Last year: 4.99.

      • Bill J

        It’s great the Reds have the greatest pitching coach in baseball.

  51. Mark Moore

    Tuned in to a tie game. Tuned out a 6-3.

    Little to see again tonight except Garcia getting dinged up again.

  52. Roger Garrett

    Senzel out to right and its 7-4 so I am gone.

  53. Bet on Red

    NicK Senzel is officially out the dog house

  54. JB

    Nick Senzel is playing. He was like down to .172 and now he is up to 246 before that homer.

  55. Daytonnati

    Senzel making a case for joining TySteve and India as a building block.

  56. VaRedsFan

    Nick S leaves the yard.
    If the 15 HR potential could return, and he keeps his small ball skills on the uprise, he could turn his career around.

    • Kevin H

      His career was never in jeopardy. His 4th year in the big leagues. He will be fine.

  57. Old-school

    Ive said it for a month

    Senzel and almora are part of the future. Both.

    Trade Pham yesterday and as Jim says…get Fairchild up.

  58. JB

    Indy is in a slump. Time to change it up. Cut the hair!

    • Kevin H

      Needs to sit, he is not good. LOL

      Yep, do something different see what happens. He is too good of a hitter

      • JB

        Sadak would have a fit if he cut his “flow”.

    • Daytonnati

      I don’t know, It seems the slump coincided with the man bun? Maybe he should shake it out and let if fly again?

  59. JB

    I think Alonso knocked the wall back 5 feet.

  60. Roger Garrett

    Play them if you must but 1-12 with 5 punchouts from Pham,Joey and Moose.Thats close to 50 mil right there and well.

  61. Old-school

    @2020ball said it best…Votto just had a slow start but he’s been good since then evidenced by his .856 OPS in July. A lie.

    Except hes hitting .210 and negative WAR nearing the AS break and doesnt have a hit yet in JUly but @2020 is absent. Where are you @2020? Please come back… You promised for Joey.

    • Mark A Verticchio

      The situation with Votto is really getting out of hand. Bell can’t continue to treat him, and Moose, with kid gloves or he is going to lose what he has left of his team.

  62. Jeff Morris

    Not sure why Bell brings in Sanmartin over Detwiler, when Detwiler has more experience and is better. Sanmartin needs to go back to AAA, where he did not pitch well earlier this season, send Sanmartin to AA or A.

  63. LDS

    27-52 and not even to the midpoint of the season. No one has been benched, cut, or fired. It’s just business as usual, go out sleepwalk through another game, and then spew some nonsense in the postgame. Get some favorable, gushing press from The Enquirer. Collect the big bucks. Rinse and repeat. Scalpers are probably selling tickets at a discount.

  64. VegasRed

    The comments about no accountability are, of course, spot on. But the sample size keeps growing with nothing changing. Reds beat a few of the bad teams, but cannot compete vs the better teams.

    I just unfortunately don’t see anything changing for the second half, despite some trades at the deadline.

    For the record I think the field staff need to be changed out at a minimum, just for the losing message and atmosphere to have any hope of changing, which is not at all guaranteed but what do the Reds have to lose?