The Reds and Diamondbacks meet tonight for the second game of their 3 games series at Chase Field in Phoenix. Fresh off a win in game 1 of the series, the Reds can assure themselves of no worse than .500 road trip with a win tonight. And who can say? If they get the win tonight, they can garner a winning road trip with victory in the upcoming Wednesday matinee.  But first things first, a win tonight.

Starting Lineups


SP: Tyler Mahle


SP: Zach Davies

1. Jonathan India (2B)
2. Brandon Drury (3B)
3. Tommy Pham (LF)
4. Joey Votto (1B)
5. Kyle Farmer (SS)
6. Nick Senzel (CF)
7. Mike Moustakas (DH)
8. Albert Almora Jr. (RF)
9. Aramis Garcia (C)
1. Daulton Varsho (RF)
2. Josh Rojas (3B)
3. Ketel Marte (2B)
4. Christian Walker (DH)
5. David Peralta (LF)
6. Pavin Smith (1B)
7. Carson Kelly (C)
8. Alek Thomas (CF)
9. Geraldo Perdomo (SS)

Nick Senzel loses the straw draw for the leadoff spot but recovers to beat Mike Moustakas in the coin toss for the #6 spot.

Starting Pitchers

The Reds Tyler Mahle is scheduled to oppose fellow right hander Zach Davies of the Diamondbacks. Just as with Monday’s game, this is a rematch of starting pitchers from 5 days ago in Cincinnati. The ‘Backs won that game 5-4 on the strength of a  4 run ninth inning against Tony Santillan.

Pitcher IP ERA WHIP BB% K%
Tyler Mahle 65.2 5.07 1.36 10.5% 25.8%
Zach Davies 62.0 4.21 1.24 8.5% 19.3%
Links: Tyler Mahle’s Stats | Zach Thompson’s Stats

Tyler Mahle

There is not much to choose from in Tyler Mahle’s 2022 handedness splits. Right handed hitters have slightly better batting and slugging averages against him. However, left handed hitters reach base more often because of Mahle’s much greater propensity to walk them (13.8% vs 6.25%).

Over the last month, Mahle has looked at least a little more like the Mahle Reds fans had expected to see.  In 6 starts he has accrued a 3.86 ERA versus his prior 6.46 ERA.  He has however continued to walk about 10% of hitters and has allowed 5 homers over the last month. Both those figures need to come down for Mahle to get into range of performance expected from him.


RHH 128 30 8 0 3 8 34 .256 .305 .402
LHH 159 29 4 3 4 22 40 .215 .321 .378

Pitch Usage

4-Seam Cutter Splitter Slider
Velo 93.7 86.1 85.8 84.0
Usage 49.7% 12.0% 26.7% 11.3%

Zach Davies

Before reading any further, glance down at the pitch usage chart for Zach Davies. See anything strange? Yes, Davies has completely eschewed the use of a 4 seam fastball in favor of a mix of the sinker and cut fastball. Back in the day, he would have been called a sinkerball pitcher. In other words, he pitches to contact and hopes to induce a high rate of ground balls.  Added together, groundballs, infield popups and strikeouts comprise nearly 80% of Davies’ outcomes.

When it comes to handedness splits nothing really jumps out. Left handed batters get on base slightly more frequently versus Davies. Right handed batters hit for a tad more power; but they also strike out at a markedly higher rate.

RHH 134 26 4 0 6 11 34 .219 .284 .403
LHH 125 29 5 1 2 11 16 .257 .320 .372

Pitch Usage

4-Seam Sinker Cutter Change Curve
Velo 89.1 87.4 79.2 74.4
Usage 0 48.1% 8.9% 35.7% 6.4%

Bullpen Status


Reds relievers covered just 2.2 innings Monday night as Mike Minor gave the team a boost by pitching an out into the 7th inning.  Hunter Strickland needed just 12 pitches to record a 1 inning save. However Strickland joins Alexis Diaz with a 3 day pitch count just over 30. They could be restricted tonight. Reiver Sanmartin marked his return with a strong 0.2 innings requiring 20 pitches due to an extended at bat. He could be unavailable.


J.B. Wendelkin and Ian Kennedy are likely unavailable after high pitch count appearances Monday. Caleb Smith did not pitch Monday but has a 3day pitch count over 40.

News and Notes

Word on Aristides Aquino’s injury from Enquirer beat writer Charlie Goldsmith. What looked like not much at all when it happened or even yesterday afternoon has turned into a significant situation. Charlie also has updates on Max Schrock and Nick Lodolo.

Thought Of The Day

Mike Moustakas returned Monday. The stage is set for Jonathan India’s return tonight.  Donovan Solano and Max Schrock are also presumably on the cusp of returning to the Reds. Jose Barrero lurks at AAA.  This begs the question trying to hide like an elephant in the corner of the dugout. What should be the Reds immediate goal? How should the roster spots and playing time be parsed? Should the Reds focus on putting the best team on the field every night? Or, should the Reds focus on building the trade value of players like Brandon Drury, Albert Almora Jr, Schrock and Solano, not to mention Matt Reynolds, all who could be coveted pieces for contenders looking to build out their benches at the trade deadline? And are these two paths even necessarily mutually exclusive?  GO REDS!

Where, When and Weather

Game time: 9:40pm ET
Where: Chase Field Phoenix, AZ
Watch: Bally Sports Ohio,
Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
Forecast: 100° or more but who cares. Chase Field is indoors and air conditioned.

Data Courtesy of Baseball Reference, Fangraphs, and Rotowire

135 Responses

  1. Mark Moore

    I like this line-up pretty well, especially given the available roster. That’s a solid OF defensively and the IF also should be fairly solid.

    Anxious to see if RoY performs better than his Louisville stint. Senzel in the 6 hole seems about right to me.

    And at least Mr. Moose isn’t wearing a glove tonight.

    Almost time to Kick this Pig!!!

    I’ll watch about 30 minutes max again tonight. Then I’m off to bed.

  2. Old-school

    Charlie Goldsmith gave some revealing info today on lance McCalister show and twitter.

    Long story short.
    Brandon Drury isnt going anywhere and will play a lot of 3b and bat 2nd .
    Moose is being moved to a lot of DH
    Max Schrock and Almora might be a RF platoon.
    Reds are going to focus on a winning culture and not a lot of trades.
    That means Kyle Farmer is staying at SS (Barrero homered and is 2-3 btw.)

    I only see Castillo and Pham being traded. Mahle will take a lot.
    Solano is going to be rotated a lot.

    • Mark Moore

      Interesting …

      That would mean a lot of platooning at several positions. Were I Kyle Farmer, I’d be a bit PO’d that I’m working my butt off and don’t have an opportunity to play for the post-season.

      I don’t get the “winning culture” statement at all. There just isn’t enough meat on this particular bone to pull that off this year barring an absolute miracle. And even then, the chances of playing in October are slim to none and slim’s out of town.

      • Old-school

        He contrasted that with the Pirates and said Pittsburgh is focused on incrementally making every decision a step forward in roster construction

      • Indy Red Man

        Winning culture doesn’t mean winning this year. That was gone with 3-22. I would take it to mean trying to work on getting the little things right with the young guys and doing things the right way. Pitchers throwing strikes and not giving outs away. Making routine plays and advancing runners. Running and/or stealing occasionally. Alot of things that this team hasn’t done since the Rolen Reds

      • Mark Moore

        Thanks, Old School.

        Indy – if that’s the intent, then you drop Moose like a hot potato (or untradeable manatee), you trade Pham, Castillo, Reynolds, Farmer, and probably Mahle (if possible). And you work with the young studs showing you are completely committed to them for the future of the club.

        But I’m not a GM or manager or anything else related to the MLB game. So what do I know?

    • VaRedsFan

      Just wondering…Who is Charlie Goldsmith?

      Is this his opinion, or does he have some “inside scoop”?

      • Old-school

        Enquirer/Castellini plant elevated above other reds beat writers to deliver Castellini message.

        Hes literally 23.

      • Mark Moore

        Wow … a seasoned veteran beat reporter then who has seen the game from every possible angle.

        I suppose we should take whatever he offers with a large bowl of salt then.

    • LDS

      Almora’s batting splits are .273/.263, while Schrock is .277/.250, though very small sample. Their numbers don’t suggest platooning according to Bell’s L/R handedness theory. Don’t even know what winning culture means in the context of the Reds. There are very few examples n the last decade and a half.

    • Daytonnati

      Does this mean if someone dogs it on the field, they get pulled?? Like Harrison Bader and the Cardinals’ winning culture?

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Glad to hear this. Drury is clearly, at this point, the best option at third base both offensively and defensively. I would love Schrock’s bat in the lineup, but as an outfielder, he was pretty bad defensively last year.

  3. Indy Red Man

    Max Schrock is close…..close to sitting on the pine and watching Moose pop up and occasionally play defense like a manatee with a glove on its flipper. Dumb money spent always plays over guys in their prime with this organization.

    • Mark Moore

      +10,000 solely based on the “manatee with a glove” comment

    • Chris Holbert

      Okay, that really made me laugh

    • Old-school

      I see manatees regularly every year from my condo deck seat in Florida.

      They are big and slow for sure.

      Moose or Manatee? Maybe both.

  4. Indy Red Man

    Tried a round robin parlay with Fried, Pivetta, and Mahle to get Ws tonight. First 2 look like they’re in the bag. Hope road Mahle shows up big tonight, but the Dbacks just saw him so I’ll be ready to bet the other side if things turn sour

  5. LDS

    Good to see India back. Hope he gets his swing back quickly. On the trade front, I think I’d rather they shopped Naquin and held on to Almora, younger, better batting splits, less power, and a bit more durable. Solano, Reynolds, certainly seem expendable. Drury and Schrock, I tend toward keeping. Castillo? Only with a huge return. Mahle & Moose in a package deal? Senzel, seems like time to move on. Minor – maybe an application of the greater fool theory? It’s going to be intense, I’m betting.

  6. Bet on Red

    Looking at the Roster going forward. Whether Mahle and Castillo depart or not the Starting Pitching Rotation is set with Greene, Lodolo, Overton, Ashcraft, plus either one of the two aforementioned or Dunn.

    Diaz is the closer of the future, besides tony and art warren, the Bullpen is still in flux

    C Tysteve
    1B Votto
    2B India
    3B Drury- its what I would do as I would hold him through his Arb years
    SS- Farmer – despite what others say he is a Legit SS. Barrero can come up and try to take it from him.

    OF- I would hold on to Almoria. Work Shrock in there but once again a black hole right now. Maybe convert McClan, but even then he is still some time away.

    Only for sure bench bat is Lopez. Dude has been done dirty IMHO

    • Bet on Red

      Correction… Drury is a Free agent, so disregard that

      Also, I forgot the communists won so I got to factor in a DH as well.

  7. JB

    Starting the night off with the usual Doube play. I’ll go with 3 tonight for the Big Double Play Machine.

  8. Old-school

    Indy as usual is all over Reds baseball.
    Might be time to rename Moose to Manatee.

    All in favor say Ayyy.

  9. Mark Moore

    So RoY starts back with the old HBP. Led the league in that last season, didn’t he?

  10. Old-school

    Nick Senzel is like that 12 year old playing on a 50/70 field who now has to play on a 14 yo 60/90 field. What is wrong with him? Nick Senzel is done as an MLB player. HE cant hit a baseball anymore on a big boy field

  11. Tom Mitsoff

    Only 22 pitches in two innings for Mahle …

  12. dhmorgan

    Twenty-two pitches in 2 innings?
    Who is that imposter in the Mahle uniform?

  13. Mark Moore

    Speak of the devil … Charlie Goldsmith was in the WLW booth. Didn’t really say anything of note that I heard. They jabbered on about a notebook (Thrall said “composite” when what I believe he meant was “composition”).

    I’m sticking for our half of the 3rd and then have to tap out.

    Turns out that smack by the Manatee was just a long-ish, noisy out.

    • JB

      You stayed for Mooses at bat. Must see TV.

  14. Mark Moore

    Well that didn’t work out how we wanted it to …

    I’ll catch you all tomorrow. Late afternoon game should give me the opportunity to watch most of it.

    Good night, friends.

    • MBS

      Too late, had to talk about a perfect game in the minors. I don’t really believe in it, but many fans do, so why break the rule Sadak

  15. VaRedsFan

    Cards Mikolas loses no hitter with 2 outs in the 9th. He’s at 129 pitches….then they took him out

  16. Old-school

    Mahle is a good road pitcher

    Reds better get a good prospect if he’s traded.

    Vlad or Revier aren’t just being plugged in.

    • Jim Walker

      20 years into GABP as a home park, do you think the Reds make any effort to vet potential draftees for how their pitch repertoire might play at GABP. This sounds like something forward thinking Dick Williams might have tried. So, if the Reds ever worked on it, they probably don’t anymore.

      • KDavis

        I think the Reds should figure out how to move the fences back. Might better help the pitchers going forward.

      • Daytonnati

        Seems like the only thing they thought about 20 years ago was building that hitter-friendly right field sundeck for Junior to use in his pursuit of Hank’s 755.

  17. Redsvol

    Anyone seen whether the ex-white sox DH (Mercedes) or Clint Frazier – formerly of the Cubs were picked up by anyone yet. Both were designated by their teams last week. I wouldn’t mind seeing us pick up one or both of them if no significant assets are involved. Mind-blowing how many outfielders we have lost to injury this season. Got to be room on that 40 man to bring in one of them. Trade Pham and try one of them.

  18. Roger garrett

    Mahle has not got any run support all year.Don’t expect any tonight or tomorrow with Castillo pitching.

  19. Jim Walker

    Nice hitting back to back by Senzel and Moose. The light may be going on about how to handle a soft tosser.

  20. JB

    Ex Red Jackson Stephen’s gets his 2nd save today for the Braves.

  21. Jim Walker

    Almora slowed his bat and stroked it. Unfortunately it went right at the SS.

    • VaRedsFan

      It’s a winning formula vs. soft tossers. Wait and poke it the other way.
      They mostly try to hit it 500 feet, and fail miserably.

  22. Bet on Red

    Did moose have the slowest steal in history

  23. VaRedsFan

    Yet another stolen base by Moose.

  24. KDavis

    Maybe start Okey the majority of time going forward. Garcia just can not hit.

    • Bet on Red

      I concur. Garcia was alright when you needed to spell Stevenson a day but not as the full time. Day game after a night game we will see Okey tomorrow

  25. LDS

    Mahle with on 60 pitches through 5 and no walks? Who has he been talking to?

  26. VaRedsFan

    Barrero 3-5 with a HR
    Schrock and Solano 1-4

    • MBS

      I saw that, would be nice to see a few more good games, then bring Barrero up!

      • LDS

        Leave him Louisville awhile. He won’t be playing short on the Reds in the near term. So let him stay down and hit everyday. Beats the bench.

      • MBS

        I want him in the OF, but saying that seems like I’m talking politics, half will hate me for my opinion. I’d agree if he’d be riding the pine.

      • LDS

        I prefer him at short but ultimately if he’s called up, I want to see him play. Young players with futures sitting while the dinosaurs play is just shortsighted and very frustrating

  27. VaRedsFan

    It was probably worth the chance. Took 2 perfect throws to just nip Farmer at the plate.

    • JB

      I can’t slow it down but it sure looked like his foot was in there before the tag.

    • dhmorgan

      Agree that it was worth a shot since the Reds are suffering badly at the plate. But Mahle is pitching a gem and it’d be a shame if he’s pinned with a loss.

  28. VaRedsFan

    Mahle 10 K’s thru 7 well pitched innings. Should be able to go at least 1 more.

    • JB

      I’m not sure if he even had a 3-2 count tonight. This is the Mahle we expect. Maybe he decided against nibbling.

  29. MBS

    The Mahle spot in the rotation has been my least favorite to watch. What a performance this is.

  30. Hanawi

    Brilliant performance from Mahle tonight. Hope they can push one across here and get him a win.

  31. Bet on Red

    VOtto and farmer come through… sac bunt?

    • Bet on Red

      no just rely on the weak bat of senzel

    • Hanawi

      The double plays the last few games are killing me. Just brutal.

      • Bet on Red

        he really should have bunted. then that grounder by Moose scores a run

  32. Indy Red Man

    Why wouldn’t you pinch run for Joey there? If you hit-n-run with anyone with a little speed then its 1st/3rd nobody out and they probably scratch across a run. I cut Bell major slack with this pen, but he’s so passive on the bases? We desperately need to go in another direction. Senzel hasn’t had an extra base hit in the covid era so why not bunt them along if you do have 1st/2nd nobody out? Brings the infield in and puts the defense under extreme pressure

  33. Indy Red Man

    Not to mention Senzel showing low baseball IQ again. He’s been going the other way more often then Freddie Mercury and when we need him to advance Votto then he decides now is the time to roll over 6-4-3.

    • Jim Walker

      Scarra, mooch, Scarra mooch, Nick tried to do a fandango!

  34. JB

    Moose starts out on 2nd. He has to pinch run for him.

  35. Bet on Red

    Send him out for the tenth….. let this be an old school Complete game. Oh and pinch run for Moose

    • JB

      Bell and his vets. No good manager let’s Moustskis run. Pinch run Friedl.

  36. Bet on Red

    But they did not pinch run for Moose…

    • Bet on Red

      Disregard, i see what they did here…. ok…

      • Bet on Red

        no i got it. It was just in case that they never moved him off of second to keep his bat in the lineup.

  37. Indy Red Man

    So you have your best hitter run and your best runner hit. Ok?

  38. Indy Red Man

    Hey skip….we need a sac fly. Ok, let me send up my 150 lb guy

      • Indy Red Man

        It worked, but the numbers prove Reynolds is a better hit then Friedl and Friedl is faster then Reynolds. Melancon is actually worse vs righties this year too although bad vs both.

  39. LDS

    Another great start. Let’s hope they win this one for a change.

  40. Bet on Red

    Alright Fredl… atta boy, India keep it going

  41. JB

    Wondering if anybody is up in the bullpen.

  42. Bet on Red

    Diaz in about as much of a closer situation as he can have

  43. Bet on Red

    Well that’s game. Its on diaz but it never should have gotten there, reds needed to score….. oh wait a minute….. still a chance

  44. Jim t

    Really needed India to put that ball in play.

  45. JB

    Poor Mahle. Not sure what he has to do to get a win.

  46. LDS

    All night, no errors and then this? Can we get the language rules on here lifted for just one night?

  47. MBS

    I’m not going to blame Bell or Diaz, this is Bob’s fault. Why he thought we could win games without a closer, is beyond me. I’m just hoping we’re not damaging these young arms like Diaz and Santillan, by putting too much pressure on them too soon.

    • Hanawi

      I kind of assume that one run is going to score with the ghost runner and the goal is to keep it to that.

      • MBS

        You’re a better man than me. I know it’s harder, but a good closer gets it done more than not. We don’t have that. I am talking a bit our my rear, because I don’t have the stats to back it up.

  48. Jim t

    Need Farmer here after a terrible at bat my Joey.

    • Bet on Red

      I am about to come up with something for him too

  49. Bet on Red

    OMG….. Really?????? Just make it stop please

  50. JB

    I guess they don’t want me to go to bed.

  51. MBS

    Can’t watch that anymore, I’ll check the box later.

  52. Indy Red Man

    Cessa is a seasoned vet and he wild pitches both runs in with 1st/3rd 2 outs and 1-2 on the hitter. Insane? The park is playing huge….just throw 94 mph away and let the guy fly out. If he gets a hit or hr then so be it, but wild pitch the 2nd run in? Thats not acceptable

  53. Jim t

    That is about as bad as it gets. Cessa with a complete meltdown.

  54. Joe P.

    Back-to-back wild pitches and an error on the pitcher dropping a throw allowing 2 runs to score. All coming with 2 outs and 2 strikes on the batter. That’s as bad as it gets. I’d cut Cessa after that performance.

  55. Indy Red Man

    My buddy had Under 8 in the Cubs/White Sox a while back and it was 1-0 bottom 9th and ended up 5-4 just like this.

  56. kevinz

    Worse feeling is having a horrible BP.
    No team is out of vs us.
    Keep adding arms arms arms,

  57. JB

    We watched Mahle throw a beautiful game and then we get this.

  58. Indy Red Man

    AAJ baby! Lets get like 4-5 runs then maybe we can hold on by 1

  59. Bet on Red

    Alright, AAJ and India…. lets hold it this time

  60. Indy Red Man

    Its 1:15 am…why can’t Sadak just dial it down a little?

  61. Jim t

    The icing on the cake would be reds winning this game. But the real win was Mahle improving his trade value considerably.

  62. kevinz

    Dang hope India okay.
    hopefully not starting down the Senzel path.

  63. Bet on Red

    Finally….. FInally…. a normal inning…. series split

    • Andrew Brewer

      Reds won the first one 5-4. I don’t dare predict tomorrow…

  64. Andrew Brewer

    The final in 12 is Reds 5, D-backs 3… It’s going to be that kind of season…

  65. Joe P.

    Cessa gets credit for the win? Whaaat? What kind of logic is that? He should have to forfeit the win and give it to Mahle.

    • Andrew Brewer

      Someday he will be able to laugh about it, but only when he’s old and feeble.

  66. Bet on red

    With a win and a Cubs loss tomorrow we go to 4th place

    • TR

      With India back, it’s time for the Reds to start moving up to third place and then challenging the Cardinals in the NLC.