The Cincinnati Reds are looking to avoid being swept by the St. Louis Cardinals today after they dropped the first two games of the series. Cincinnati will send Graham Ashcraft to the mound for just his second road start. St. Louis will counter with Dakota Hudson. First pitch is set for 2:15pm.

Starting Lineups

Here are the lineups for this afternoon’s NL Central match up:

Cincinnati Reds

St. Louis Cardinals

Nick Senzel – CF Tommy Edman – SS
Brandon Drury – 3B Nolan Gorman – 2B
Tommy Pham – DH Tyler O’Neill – LF
Joey Votto – 1B Nolan Arenado – 3B
Kyle Farmer – SS Brendan Donovan – RF
Matt Reynolds – 2B Juan Yepez – 1B
TJ Friedl – LF Albert Pujols – DH
Aristides Aquino – RF Harrison Bader – CF
Aramis Garcia – C Andrew Knizner – C
Graham Ashcraft – SP Dakota Hudson – SP

Starting Pitchers

Graham Ashcraft 23.2 1.14 0.85 5 13
Dakota Hudson 58.2 2.76 1.21 25 34
Links: Graham Ashcraft’s Stats | Dakota Hudson’s Stats

Graham Ashcraft

Among pitchers with at least four starts this season in Major League Baseball Graham Ashcraft’s 61% ground ball rate ranks 4th. That’s what you’re going to get when he’s on the mound – tons of grounders. He’s seen more lefties than righties and so far that hasn’t worked out for opposing managers as he’s held them to a .378 OPS in 54 plate appearances. Righties have hit better against him, posting a .627 OPS.


RHH 37 8 2 0 0 3 5 .242 .324 .303
LHH 54 7 1 0 1 2 8 .135 .167 .212

Pitch Usage

2-Seam Cutter Slider Change
Velo 97.4 97.8 85.7 90.4
Usage 24.4% 44.0% 30.1% 1.5%

Dakota Hudson

The splits for Dakota Hudson are weird. Left-handed hitters are not hitting at all against him but they also walk as often as they strike out against him. They make plenty of contact, draw plenty of walks, but when they do make contact they are not at all being rewarded from it. Righties are making plenty of contact and they are hitting better than lefties are, but they aren’t showing much power.

Not shown below is that his home and road splits are pretty big. At home opponents have an OPS 102 points lower than they do against him on the road, hitting just .206/.280/.289. His ERA at home is 1.35 versus a 3.94 road ERA.


RHH 106 24 3 0 3 8 16 .255 .314 .383
LHH 133 22 5 0 1 17 18 .193 .301 .263

Pitch Usage

4-Seam 2-Seam Slider Change Curve
Velo 92.1 92.2 89.3 86.4 80.9
Usage 13.3% 41.2% 27.4% 5.9% 12.2%

When and Where

  • Game time: 2:15pm ET
  • Where: Busch Stadium
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio,
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 90°, partly cloudy, 15% chance of rain

News and Notes

Graham Ashcraft and finding his cutter

Charlie Goldsmith of the Cincinnati Enquirer wrote about Graham Ashcraft’s journey through the minors and the unique cutter that he and the Reds developed over the past few years.

In 2020, before COVID, we were trying to get more rise on my fastball because with the way it was moving, it was getting hit a ton,” Ashcraft said. “After a while, Jagers and (former Reds pitching coordinator Kyle Boddy) looked at it more in depth and realized nobody has the movement like this.

179 Responses

  1. Melvin

    Well we can at least enjoy our awesome young pitcher today and also our Hall of Famer #19 while we still can. If he keeps hitting like he has since coming back from Covid he will easily be our All Star representative. As a matter of fact if he keeps it up the rest of the year, which I wouldn’t be surprised, he’ll be in the MVP discussion again too.

  2. Jon

    Right now the Reds have four possible All-Star candidates for one spot with Stephenson on the IL: Votto, Diaz, Drury, and Farmer. If Votto continues hitting the way he has since returning from the IL, he’s a shoo-in.

  3. JB

    Just here to watch Ashcraft today. I have no interest in watching the bullpen.

    • Melvin

      Here’s hoping for the first complete game of the year. 🙂

      • Melvin

        Was it 9 innings or the 7 in the rain out? Either way here’s hoping for another one. 🙂

      • Old-school

        The fascination of the abomination.

    • Bet on Red

      THe Rotation is becoming set for Next year. Greene, Ashcraft, Lodolo, Overton plus Maybe Dunn. I am comfortable Trading Mahle, Not too off on trading Castillo as well. Obviously got no problem getting rid of Minor

  4. MBS

    Is Ashcraft day more exciting than Greene day? I don’t know that answer yet, but it sure is fun.

  5. Bet on Red

    Betting Votto, the Under (8) and the under on Ks as well 3.5 Hope we take the finale against the Birds. RN I would say that the All star game rep is Vottos to lose

    • JB

      I’m going dark horse and saying it’s Ashcrafts to lose

  6. Bet on Red

    I am ok with that non catch by Aquino. As is the TV crew evidently. Saved a Run

    • Bet on Red

      and that happens…. How did Okey look yesterday

  7. Indy Red Man

    Yankees 8-1 over Cubs in the 2nd. Can’t wait for the Reds to go to Yankee Stadium.
    Opening line is Reds +6.5

  8. DHud

    After 1 inning:
    Hudson: 8 pitches
    Ashcraft: 26

    Just go ahead and buckle in again everyone…

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Five or six innings tops for Ashcraft — maybe less, considering that the TV crew said the “feel-like” temperature in St. Louis is 104.

      • JB

        Yeah ieas thinking the same Tom. Do you think the heat is effecting his slider from snapping more?

    • Kevin H

      So Ashcraft has 1 bad inning and your suggesting “buckle up” it is 1-0 relax

      • DHud

        You’re right, I should have so much faith in this Reds team by now

        Not like our bullpen has blown two games in a row

  9. Bet on Red

    Why is Friedl in the Lineup, where is Almora? wasted opertunity there

    • JB

      They didn’t say and I was wondering as well. Bottom of the order isn’t scaring anybody today.

      • Bet on Red

        you say this and watch Aquino have his weekly homerun

      • Bet on Red

        They do do, a hit every inning and a run every inning, hit every inning fluctuates depending on the pitching matchups any where from the +300 to +800. A one dollar bet on a run for every inning will net you 10,000 dollars

    • LarkinPhillips

      My question is why is Lopez even on the team if Bell refuses to play him. Are we hoping Phillips gets hot before India gets back to trade him or something?

  10. Hanawi

    What kind of odds can one get for a double play every inning?

  11. Bet on Red

    TV Crew was right, should have bunted. But no. Tired of Garcia as a starter. Why didn’t the Reds just do the right thing and clone Ty Steve. Don’t tell me “cause its too expensive” or “ethical concerns” or “the technology doesn’t exist” cause we need Ty Steve back

  12. DataDumpster

    Most of this forum could have figured this out — but The Cowboy said it first. “Do you want to risk hitting into the third DP in a row with a guy who’s not hitting the ball well, doesn’t this scream bunt?” Yes, said Sadak, but the Cardinals are not buying it. Next pitch, you saw what happened. This is why I don’t like David Bell, either he has no common sense or his players don’t know how to bunt.

    • Joe P.

      Didn’t look like Bell was watching the game at that moment. He was busy talking to someone else.

  13. Hanawi

    So the Reds go to Arizona next, home for two series, then all the way to San Fran for one series on the West Coast. What kind of schedule is that?

  14. JB

    Cowboy ruffling some feathers today. Questioning the logic of Ashcraft pitch selection. Join the crowd Cowboy.

    • DataDumpster

      I love it. He doesn’t rant like Marty did at times but keeps it to the facts and baseball logic. He has reached the level in his career that his job is secure because the fans know that his baseball skill and respect by the fans far exceeds the ownership and field management.

    • Bet on Red

      cowboy making a play for Pitching Coach. bases loaded for farmer. No outs…can we see something

      • Bet on Red

        and farmer gets a brusied Rib Eye lets see Renyolds

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Yeah, that was very strong second-guessing of the gameplan. Very, very unusual from this team’s broadcasters.

      • Melvin

        It’s cool and refreshing. Kind of like Coca Cola. 🙂

  15. Kevin H

    So now we complaining about Ashcraft pitch selection. That didn’t take long. LOL

    • JB

      Cowboy is the one that brought it up. And you are who? Oh that’s right ……nobody.

      • JB

        You seem to point out to everybody when they make a comment that they have never hit or pitched in the majors. Just stating to you what you say to others. Stinks don’t it?

    • Mark Moore

      Ashcraft will have bad games. I have to think it also doesn’t help that he’s doing it via signs instead of the earwig thingy. At least that’s what I thought I heard.

      • MK

        Garcia sure had the wire hanging from his helmet. Either way don’t know how that would effect performance.

  16. Jon

    TV broadcast was talking about how Cardinals manager benched a player for lack of effort. Then shortly after, Farmer made his fifth error of the year.

    • VaRedsFan

      The player was benched, because he didn’t hustle. The manager put his foot down, and the player took ownership. Exactly how it should be….Accountability.

      Two entirely different things.
      One physical, one mental. Physical errors happen. Mental errors should never happen.

      • Mark Moore

        It was Harrison Bader for flipping a bat on a fly ball and turning toward the dugout (after not really running down the line) before he got to 1st.

  17. Joe P.

    Does anyone know what the record is for the number of double plays hit into by a team in one game?

  18. Old-school

    Has anyone ever seen Travis Jankowski and TJ Friedl at the same place at the same time?

  19. steven ross

    Brantley is not happy with Ashcraft or the offense not dropping down a bunt. Yeah, let’s hit into another DP. Gotta love this man. He gets it Bell’s gotta go. It’s time.

  20. DataDumpster

    What is the logic involved to try to steal a base with 2 out and the hitter at the plate hitting about .160? Worse yet, the attempt was not successful and thus Aquino gets a second chance to make an out as the first batter.

    • Bet on Red

      Aquino did get a hit last time up

  21. Mark Moore

    Back from my little trip just in time to see Ashcraft battling a bit (that will happen) and our infield playing some more little league ball. Happy-ish with the 3 runs in the 4th, but really wishing we didn’t keep rolling over on balls for a GIDP.

    Feels like a make-or-break inning for Ashcraft.

    Oh, my wife has the game on before I came home. The only change was the audio feed 🙂

    • Mark Moore

      And I popped in and out yesterday. Complete and utter frustration with how we snatched defeat from the jaws of victory again.

      I’m personally not in the camp of a “designated closer” but with the season not going anywhere, it seems we have to sort out something in the BP. Some of them just need to go.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        Clearly. It’s insane to keep running Strickland out there. It’s my belief that of the current bullpen, you only have one (Diaz) who projects as a late-inning guy you can count on. I thought after his great game against Boston that Santillan might be ready to take that step, but then he came right back against Arizona and had horrible location both in and out of the zone. The next closer this team develops is probably going to be one of the many starting pitching prospects in the organization.

      • LarkinPhillips

        @tom How about Joe Boyle late inning guy in the future? I don’t think we move him there now, but I like his stuff as a one inning guy in the future.

  22. Mark Moore

    “3rd game in a row where the Reds made 2 errors”

    Well if THAT isn’t a depressing stat, I don’t know what is.

    • JB

      And a passed ball that resulted into a run.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        They said on TV that was scored as a wild pitch.

  23. Indy Red Man

    Barrero 0-4 with 4Ks. I think its almost time to resign Kyle and IF Barrero makes it then we’ll deal with that later. I guess its still his spring training, but if those AAA retreads are dominating him then it doesn’t look good.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Wrist surgeries can be very difficult to recover from for baseball players. It may take most of this season.

    • VaRedsFan

      They next excuse will be “well everybody else has been playing 4 months, and he’s only been playing 2.

      They really need this young prospect to realize his potential. It’s tough being patient when you see other team’s top prospects come up and succeed so fast.

      • MK

        Not like Greene and Ashcraft, aye? In two stints Barrero has yet to show me he can hit big league pitching, so personally I am not expecting great things.

    • Votto4life

      I really don’t get all the hate for Jose Barrero. Nick Senzel has done nothing for three years in the majors. If you want to talk about a bust, look to centerfield.

  24. west larry

    what is that?
    the reds hir into a double play every inning? Must be going for a record, i guess it’s Bell’s fault,

  25. JB

    Ashcraft is battling today. His fielders, the heat and his stuff.

  26. Old-school

    AS soon as I finally and officially throw in the towel on Aquino, he’s 2-2 and hitting line drives.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      When he hits consistently over more than a month is when I will change my opinion on him.

      • Melvin

        Wouldn’t he have to actually play a month first? 🙂

      • Hanawi

        If he could walk more that would also help. He seems to have regressed in this area since he came up.

    • Melvin

      Have to admit…he’s a survivor. 🙂

  27. Old-school

    Forget Brantley as Pitching coach, make him the manager.

  28. Melvin

    Wait a second…did we just sacrifice bunt?

    • Mark Moore

      No. You imagined that. You also imagined it led to AA scoring on a short but successful SF by Nick.

  29. Mark Moore

    Aggressive tag and run, but it worked. Bad throw. Nice slide.

  30. Melvin

    Manufacturing a run! Wow! Didn’t know we could do that. 🙂

  31. Bet on Red

    noone wants to talk about how Aquino has hit half the cycle lol

    • JB

      I think we all are in shock at the moment.

    • Bet on Red

      but wont finish it as he joins the injury parade

    • JohnnyTV

      Or that perhaps that he’s injured now, too.

  32. Hanawi

    Probably be the last inning for Ashcraft if he can get through it.

  33. Bet on Red

    Well I will win my under on the Ks and since baseball games cannot end in a tie I will lose the over. Need 2 more H/R/RBI from Votto

  34. Mark Moore

    Rough day for Ashcraft, but they will happen.

    Time to spin the wheel of misfortune with our BP and some inherited runners, no?

    • JB

      He battled, which was nice to see. He left with the game tied and he gave his team a chance. Oh and the relief pitcher walks the first batter. The beat goes on..

    • Mark Moore

      Warren gets a successful 50/50 …

      So what are the odds he gets to start a clean 6th inning?

      • Mark Moore

        Zero … the odds are zero. After 3 days rest, apparently 3 batters is his limit in a game where we’ll need half the BP today. That’s the kind of stuff from DTBell that just boggles my mind. 😮

  35. LDS

    Just got home. I was counting on Ashcraft, looks like the sweep is imminent now. And after all the bragging several of us did a couple days ago, about Aquino’s ability to stay healthy, he injures himself. Oh well, it’s the Reds.

  36. Hanawi

    Seven pitch inning. Amazing the difference between the pitch counts of Hudson and Ashcraft. Pretty similar stats but 20 pitch difference despite going an extra inning and a third.

  37. Joe P.

    Donovan worked Ashcraft. That was a key at bat there in the Cards getting one run in the 5th to tie. The Reds got lucky the ball Pujols hit bounced over the fence or it would have been 2 runs. I thought Ashcraft would get Donovan out but he had an at bat that reminded me of Pete Rose and lined a single to the opposite field. Good situational hitting there by Donovan.

    • Mark Moore

      I said the exact same thing about the GR2B from Pujols.

  38. VaRedsFan

    Waaaayyy too efficient by Hoffman.
    There’s no way he can continue.

    • JB

      Might have to. Not much left in the bullpen thst didn’t pitch yesterday. Still have Tony left.

  39. Old-school

    Reds need to get back to a finding a lineup through trades/development of hitters with a track record of plate discipline who work the pitcher and dont give in. Cardinals do that.

    Winker did that.
    India did that
    Stephenson did that.
    Castellanos mostly did that.
    Votto does that.

    4/5 are gone and thats the problem.

    Senzel does that except he’s lost all power and just doesn’t barrel up baseballs anymore.

    Perhaps the biggest reason to trade Castillo is to get a big young lefty bat and a high minors elite SP to fill that spot.

    This team desperately needs good young lefty hitters.

  40. Bet on Red

    Fredl….never doubted. MIKE!!!!!! The Bulls are playing the Bats this week!!!!!

    • Bet on Red

      MARK!!!!!! that was supposed to be MARK

      • Mark Moore

        I haven’t been to a Bulls game in a few years. That is a great stadium.

        Of course it would be the week when it’s supposed to be a bazillion degrees almost every day 😮

      • Bet on Red

        lol yea, I mean I can walk to the Stadium from here.

  41. Old-school

    Friedl triples! Almora sac fly.

    Brendan Donovan literally bounced off the warning track. Thats gotta hurt.

  42. Mark Moore

    Well THAT was unexpected and very pleasant way to generate 2 runs.

    • Bet on Red

      yes, Did you see the Bats are comming to Durham?

      • Mark Moore

        Yes. Just responded to your comment above

      • Mark Moore

        Wondering if RoY will make the trip? Would love to see him play in person.

      • Bet on Red

        That is exactly what I am thinking. If it is still the Rehab specials…. I am getting tickets. If everyone gets reactivated….not so much.

  43. Mark Moore

    OK, will we see Tony the Tiger or Tony the Lazy House Cat?

  44. Indy Red Man

    Everyone piles on Bell and I get it, but some of us were saying lets give Hoffman more of a shot in high leverage. Bell goes to him and he fails too. Only so much he can do. Nobody gets consistent outs but Diaz and he’s a rookie.

    • MBS

      Diaz’s brother will be a FA next year, I say we bring in Edwin Diaz as our closer!

    • Hanawi

      He gave up a couple of singles. I would have left him in the game instead of bringing in Santillan. Seemed like an overreaction.

    • Mark Moore

      I hear you. And I realize the talent in the BP is well below optimal.

      What puzzles me is the inconsistent decisions (at least as I see it). Leaving guys in to get hammered and then using Warren for 2 batters after 3 days rest. It’s almost like the choices come via a dartboard system at times.

      At least this worked out (this time) and we move forward with a 2-run lead.

  45. Tom Mitsoff

    Typically in a game that the Reds are leading, Bell would have used Diaz by now. Wonder if he is holding Diaz for the ninth?

    • Mark Moore

      How many pitches was his last outing and was that yesterday or the day before?

    • Hanawi

      I’d be surprised if Diaz is available. He pitched two innings on the 9th and then another one yesterday.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        Thanks for clarifying. I hadn’t considered that.

    • JohnnyTV

      If he actually does have a plan, Bell seems to be using Diaz against opponents best hitters.

      Middle of Curds lineup could be up in the ninth.

      If we get through the eighth.

  46. VaRedsFan

    Hoffman is just the guy that hasn’t messed up lately. He’s just a different option than the guys that have recently messed up. We all know what Hoffman is.

  47. Hanawi

    Seems like Strickland or Detwiler for the 9th? Unless they think Santillan can finish it

    • Hanawi

      Well, nevermind about Santillan. Not sure why they took him out?

      • Mark Moore

        Him out and Warren out after limited pitches is what puzzles me the most about how DTBell manages the BP use.

      • Hanawi

        I think I need to see some more data about the risks/benefits of shorter, more frequent outings versus longer, less frequent outings. Might be advantageous from an analytics perspective to have a guy throw 10-20 pitches every day or every other day, but that seems much harder on the arm and long-term health of the pitcher. But I don’t know if that has been looked at.

      • Mark Moore

        Just remember that “analytics” would never have let Seaver or Ryan or Steve Carlton or that crowd do what they did. Heck, I do believe even Tommy John wasn’t limited to the degree we see today.

        I’m torn because I hate to see the injuries but I also don’t like the low pitch counts like we regularly seem to see.

      • greenmtred

        Brantley mentioned that he preferred pitching consecutive days. Warren and Santillan have both had trouble this season. Give them a success to build on or another failure to brood about?

  48. Mark Moore

    At this point Pham shouldn’t cost us anything to trade. He should bring back some value of some sort. Of course, we’re still more than a little limited in terms of our roster options at this point. Still, he took this gig hoping to get showcased to contenders. Mashes like that could do the trick. He does seem a little more focused since the major time-out I think,

  49. Mark Moore

    Cessa with a clean inning … here’s hoping for the best.

    • Mark Moore

      And Welch saying he did something similar in a college game … the batter ended up being carried off with a broken knee.

  50. Mark Moore

    That was what, 10 pitches for Cessa? So he’s done for the day I’m assuming … 😮

  51. Tom Mitsoff

    With only 10 pitches in the eighth, Cessa might return for the ninth.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        I’m not confident enough to do that. 😉

  52. Roger Garrett

    Best thing is he picks it up cause he will play and we can get something for him at the deadline.He won’t be here regardless next year so bang on dude.Otherwise he is one and done and we get nothing for him.Reds have no leverage and will take what they can get and should.I hope he does find a home and we can give his at bats to somebody else.Right now that may be the bat boy cause we are losing players daily.

  53. LarkinPhillips

    I would love to see Friedl put on about 20 lbs of muscle this next off season. I love the way he plays, he just needs to be stronger.

    • LarkinPhillips

      He could go from a Mark Payton type guy to a poor man’s version of Curtis Granderson.

      • Mark Moore

        If he could produce like Granderson and not sacrifice his current ability, I’d say that’s a good plan.

      • LarkinPhillips

        @Mark, if he doesn’t add some power to his game, he will not last in the majors. The outfield has already started coming in on him taking away any bloops.

  54. Tom Mitsoff

    Almora appears to have re-discovered what he had lost since he was a starter for the World Champion Cubs. He’s not going to be a power hitter, but his defense in center and hitting in the .280 range as he is makes him a clear everyday player for any team, in my opinion.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Getting picked off notwithstanding. 😉

      • Old-school

        If Senzel cant prove the next 3 months he can hit and barrel baseballs, I dont have a problem with Almora hitting 9th and playing CF as long as Elly D La Cruz is moved to CF for 2024.

        Pham big add-on run

      • Tom Mitsoff

        My preference is that management would make decisions based on what people produce (Almora in this case) as opposed to what players don’t produce (Senzel in this case). There are still many people who think that eventually Senzel and Aquino are going to become the very productive starters that was hoped for. We’re four years in on both, and I’m pretty sure that what we’ve seen is what we’re going to get.

    • LarkinPhillips

      +1000 Tom. I love his defensive ability. I honestly think the double by Pujols would have been caught by Almore due to the reads he gets compared to Senzel.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        The Reds have contract control over him for at least the 2023 season.

    • TR

      Centerfield has been undecided for a number of years. Finally, imo, the Reds have found their centerfielder in Almora, Jr., for now. Good defense with a quick read plus a .280 hitter.

  55. Mark Moore

    Buckle up, friends!

    Good call on the “no bet” Tom 🙂

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I can’t afford to give away too much money. 😉

  56. Bet on Red

    actually getting Diaz a Save opertunity here

  57. Hanawi

    Donovan has had some tough at-bats today. Got to give him credit.

  58. Bet on Red

    even Diaz isn’t immune here. Come on. One More Out.

    • greenmtred

      Diaz has a world of talent, is young, and walks guys and throws wild pitches. Can’t currently count on clean innings from him, but I expect that will change.

  59. Mark Moore

    And it comes down to Sir Albert … SMH Extra Hard.

  60. Mark Moore


    So that’s what a win feels like. Be sure to tell your friends.

  61. JohnnyTV

    Serve up a two run tater and strike out an HOFer on three pitches to nail it down.

    Memorable afternoon for the rookie.