The Cincinnati Reds will go for the series win this afternoon. Pittsburgh won last night and if the Pirates win today they’ll salvage a split after losing the first two of the four game set. Cincinnati will send Hunter Greene to the mound to match up against lefty Jose Quintana, with the first pitch set for 1:35pm ET.

Starting Lineups

Here are the lineups for this afternoon’s NL Central contest:

Cincinnati Reds

Pittsburgh Pirates

Matt Reynolds – SS Ben Gamel – LF
Brandon Drury – 3B Ke’Bryan Hayes – 3B
Tommy Pham – LF Bryan Reynolds – CF
Mike Moustakas – DH Daniel Vogelbach – DH
Albert Almora Jr. – CF Yoshi Tsutsugo – 1B
Tyler Naquin – RF Josh VanMeter – 2B
Aramis Garcia – C Jack Suwinski – RF
Alejo Lopez – 2B Rodolfo Castro – SS
Colin Moran – 1B Michael Perez – C
Hunter Greene – SP Jose Quintana – SP

Starting Pitchers

Hunter Greene 26.0 7.62 1.80 15 35
Jose Quintana 30.0 2.70 1.20 13 25
Links: Hunter Greene’s Stats | Jose Quintana’s Stats

Hunter Greene

After averaging over 100 MPH on his fastball in his first two starts, Hunter Greene hasn’t not been there since. In his last start he was up from the previous few, averaging 98.4 MPH and touched 101. That was also that outing in which he threw more sliders than he threw fastballs.

Keeping the baseball in the park has been the big issue for Greene this season. Two starts ago against Milwaukee he allowed five of them in just 2.2 innings. He rebounded from that start last time out, giving up just two runs in 5.1 innings against the same Brewers team. Still, he’s only made it through one start without allowing a homer this year and that outing lasted just 3.1 innings.


RHH 68 18 1 0 8 7 17 .305 .382 .729
LHH 59 14 4 0 3 8 18 .275 .373 .529

Pitch Usage

4-Seam Slider Change
Velo 98.3 87.0 89.5
Usage 56.8% 35.6% 7.7%

Jose Quintana

Lefties aren’t getting much playing time against Jose Quintana this year, but when they have they’ve gone hitless. Righties are clearly doing better than that, but the left-handed pitcher has been good against them, too. Right-handed hitters are hitting just .235 without much power. He’s not striking many guys out, and his walk rate is a tad high, too. But he’s kept the ball in the ballpark so far this year.


RHH 109 23 5 0 2 11 19 .235 .312 .347
LHH 16 0 0 0 0 2 6 .000 .118 .000

Pitch Usage

4-Seam 2-Seam Change Curve
Velo 90.4 90.8 85.9 78.4
Usage 36.0% 11.2% 30.2% 22.6%

When and Where

  • Game time: 1:35pm ET
  • Where: PNC Park
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio,
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 77°, partly cloudy, 15% chance of rain

News and Notes

Joey Votto’s rehab starts out well

Last night saw Joey Votto get three plate appearances with Triple-A Louisville as he began his rehab assignment. He walked, had an RBI single, and walked again before exiting the game after his third plate appearance as planned. He served as the designated hitter in the game.

Sandy Leon added to the taxi squad

Cincinnati added catcher Sandy Leon to the taxi squad. He’s played in 15 games with Louisville and has hit .191/.306/.310. After Tyler Stephenson exited last night’s game when he took a foul ball off of his mask, the Reds want to have another catcher with them just in case.

177 Responses

  1. Votto4life

    Goodness..that lineup is just brutal.

    • MBS

      Good thing we’re playing the Pirates

  2. JB

    Let’s win the game today and get back to playing. 500 ball in May.

  3. Old Big Ed

    Farmer is out, on a day that a RH hitter is needed. Did I miss something on him?

    • BK

      Bell said Farmer was “sore” yesterday.

    • Mark Moore

      Farmer has been a bit over used and 2 days off is the price you pay. And, no, he’s not the emergency catcher … 🙂

      • MBS

        If Stephenson isn’t able to actually go, who would be? I do think rest is the primary reason, but I don’t know of another possible catcher on the roster.

      • MuddyCleats

        Agree, but don’t u know the LH SP is coming? Maybe give him yesterday off so he can start vs LHP – Dittos for Tyler

  4. Bet on Red

    This lineup and hunter greene penchants for homers just screams “bet on black”

  5. Mark Moore

    Going to need the kind of patience we didn’t show yesterday. Plus we’ll need a very dialed-in Hunter Greene. Really need a get away win.

  6. Mark A Verticchio

    They won 6 of 8, they really need a win today, but it won’t be easy with this line up and a 22 year old pitcher.

  7. Mark Moore

    I saw on the Reds site TySteve came out due to “concussion protocol” but then Bell said no signs of one. Has anyone heard if he’s available off the bench today?

    • BK

      Per the official Red’s website, TS was cleared to play.

      • Mark Moore

        Thanks. That’s what I was assuming

    • Old-school

      Bell said no head injury
      Hes available to hit

      Also said really looking at ways to protect him, including gear and he’s their long term catcher- paraphrasing

      • Mark Moore

        I’ve made the point about the hockey goalie style gear vs. traditional before. I have to think it provides a little better protection against what we saw.

  8. Mark Moore

    Minor got the hook. 2.1 innings, 60 pitches, gave up a gopher ball, 1 unearned run, 4 K’s.

      • Mark Moore

        Make that 4 errors … Bats coming up in the 3rd now. Joey is 4th due up.

    • JB

      Minor 60 pitches in 2 innings. Should fit right in with Mahle.

      • Mark Moore

        Have to think that was the limit for him intentionally. And his mates and their errors didn’t help at all.

  9. Moon

    One thing I have noticed about Hunter so far in the majors is he has to throw a lot of pitches to get his outs. Already 23 through the first inning…

    • Mark Moore

      30 in the first inning the last time, so 23 is an improvement. He settled in after that.

      But I’m seeing the same thing. I have to think that’s a problem at some point.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I have been surprised that his pitch location has been as erratic and inconsistent as we have seen so far. I guess at Class AAA you can get away with that when you throw 100.

  10. Mark Moore

    Joey won’t bat until the 4th inning. 2nd and 3rd outs were a strike-em-out and throw-em-out.

  11. Mark Moore

    Sheldon is on with WLW. Says they aren’t thinking of moving TySteve, but the hockey-style is an option.

    • Votto4life

      Funny how they were walking on egg shells when discussing Joey’s future. Everyone knows he is likely gone after next season. I’m sure they were just being respectful, but I would wish they would just speak openly.

      • Mark Moore

        Speaking openly, even when warranted (like when it isn’t about protected data such as health), just isn’t their style. It continues to give me the impression they think they are way smarter than they actually are. Plus, they think we’re all pretty stupid (Phil said as much).

      • Votto4life

        Yeah, well in fairness, the average fan probably doesn’t think much beyond the next game.

  12. Mark Moore

    Bats are playing some Keystone Cops baseball today

  13. JB

    I wonder why Garcia doesn’t use pitch com.

  14. Mark Moore

    Should be Joey coming up in the Bats’ 4th

    • Mark Moore

      Walked him on a 3-1. Nothing really even close for Joey to lay into.

      • Mark Moore

        And erased on a DP (sharply hit, no chance at all)

  15. Mark Moore

    Anybody else feeling a little better about Hunter’s pitch count and performance now through 3?

    Still need Jobu to wake up bats!!

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Yes. He’s hitting the lower part of the zone and at the corners with all pitches. When he does that, look out.

      • Mark Moore

        True enough, Tom.

        But can you do anything about waking up Jobu and our bats?

  16. Bet on Red

    the type of game where the Bats are just for decoration

  17. Mark Moore

    Thrall giving Welsh the business about pitchers using “sticky stuff” back in the day. Welsh claims no personal experience, but that he “knows a guy” … 🙂

  18. Mark Moore

    Sorry … I still say you can’t walk Tommy Boy. You challenge him.

  19. Mark Moore

    I’m liking today’s version of Hunter Greene.

    Now some run support, please.

  20. MBS

    Greene thumb has everything coming up roses

  21. Hanawi

    Nice outing so far from Greene. Important to keep his confidence up after a couple of rough ones. Hoping he can get through 6 as his stats facing guys for the 2nd and 3rd time through the order are rough. Been his biggest problem so far.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Interesting. I didn’t realize that.

  22. Mark Moore

    Weak chopper for Votto in his 3rd AB. Done watching that game now.

  23. Bet on Red

    oh comeon Sadak….. smh…. Greene doing real well right now

    • Mark Moore

      The very reason why I chose the WLW audio feed right from the beginning. He’s just unbearable.

  24. Votto4life

    Hunter Greene is very impressive

  25. Daytonnati

    This reminds me of some of Homer Bailey’s starts when he was razor sharp and the offense just did not show up. He would either leave with a no-decision or one-run loss.

    • Mark Moore

      Please don’t go there. I mean, jinxes aren’t real … until they are …

      • Daytonnati

        I don’t think Bell will let Greene go much over 100 pitches, so THAT is probably off the table.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        @Daytonnati — I’m with you 100 percent. Probably one more inning tops.

  26. Mark A Verticchio

    I am not sure this Reds offense can put up a run. This could also be just the start of another losing streak, hope not.

  27. Mark Moore

    Seems the flex-o-zone is on full display today. That’s not helping Young Jedi Greene.

  28. Moon

    6 innings of no hit ball and at 93 pitches. I would pull Hunter now.

    • Hanawi

      Yep. Great start from him. Let him leave on the high note with momentum.

  29. RedsMonk65

    The coming of age of young Hunter Greene?

    … But where is our bats?

    • RedsMonk65

      Where is our English? 😉

      “Where are our bats?”

      • Mark Moore

        Jobu is taking a Sunday afternoon nap

    • Votto4life

      They were jettison by the front office over the winter.

  30. LDS

    Jeez, just checked in and looks like Greene is having a day and the Reds hitters aren’t. And I’m betting Greene is about to get the Kershaw treatment.

    • Doc

      Pittsburg is saying Quintana is having a day but their bats aren’t!

  31. Bet on Red

    I think that once we get into the pirates bullpen, the bats will be alright. I leave Hunter in until IT isnt a thing anymore

    • Tom Mitsoff

      You absolutely don’t want to face Bednar though.

  32. Roger Garrett

    Bats not showing up for second straight day.Actually though we may sweep after the first two games.

  33. J

    The way these guys have been approaching this game, they’ll get into the bullpen around the 13th inning.

  34. Roger Garrett

    I am not sure we will even score regardless of who is pitching.

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  36. Mark Moore

    9 K’s and 0 hits through 7. I’d say that’s a really good outing for Greene.

    Now just a LITTLE run support would be nice.

  37. William

    Go Hunter Greene! I am enjoying this.

  38. Old-school

    Hunter greene and Nick Lodolo development are prime reasons to watch this team

    Hunter making adjustments.
    Strong work young man

  39. Bet on Red

    did vanmeter get run as well at PIT manager? No movement in Reds Bullpen

  40. Mark Moore

    Nobody up in our pen? That’s a bold decision.

    • Bet on Red

      Who do you trust with THIS besides maybe Diaz? Lopez out there trying to get that run

      • Mark Moore

        I know. I just hate to see us take chances with the kid who is a big piece of the future.

  41. Daytonnati

    I am not sure how I feel about this … he has already skipped one start this year with fatigue.

  42. Mark Moore

    Nice hit for Lopez.

    Time for a little Bam-Bam action?

  43. Roger Garrett

    In fairness we are playing without 4 starters in our lineup and although others have stepped up lately without Joey,Senzel,India and Ty Steve we just aren’t as good at the plate as we would be.You can add Farmer as well so again it may not be fair.

  44. Mark Moore

    Missed opportunities again

    Buckle up, friends. This could be a bit of a wild, bumpy ride.

  45. Tom Mitsoff

    This is going to be VEEEERRRY interesting in the eighth. How long will Bell let Greene go? And who will Bell use in relief if he does go to the bullpen?

    • Mark Moore

      Nobody so far in the pen. It’s all semantics if we can’t score.

      That walk to Castro was a tough one.

  46. Bet on Red

    Warren is up. PC out to mound. whatever he said Greene laughed at it

  47. Mark Moore

    And in this round of Press Your Luck … we got a Whammy!!

  48. Bet on Red

    combined attempt… in progress

  49. Tom Mitsoff

    I’m sure there will be second-guessing of Bell if Pittsburgh scores this inning off Warren, but as long as Greene wasn’t feeling any discomfort, why not give him the chance to get it?

    • Hanawi

      He’s already had concerns this year about arm troubles. I don’t really see the need to push him at this stage of the season. Could have gone out on a high note instead of being pulled after a couple of walks.

  50. Frank

    great stuff from Hunter.

    What a rebound from his last outing.

  51. Hanawi

    Doesn’t seem to trust his fastball anymore. Throwing predominately sliders. Didn’t really agree with sending him back out there this inning given the few starts he has had and the fact that he has already had fatigue issues.

    That said. Great start by Greene. Hope he can build on it going forward.

  52. Votto4life

    Fantastic outing by Hunter Greene. Bell gave him a shot.

  53. Kevin H

    Don’t really understand Greene pitching the 8th inning. Now 118 pitches and 2 runners in base via walks.

    Great performance by Greene, now hopefully bullpen doesn’t allow a inherited runner to score

  54. Doc

    Win or lose, it is a stellar game by Greene.

  55. Daytonnati

    I think all of us have an idea how this ends. 🙁

  56. Bet on Red

    Should have been diaz… we are about to lose a game without having given up a hit lol

  57. Mark Moore

    Load ’em up, Art … 😮


  58. JB

    Walk the first batter. Reds bullpen way.

  59. Joe P.

    Reds could lose this one without giving up a hit.

      • Joe P.

        No excuse for Bell not having a guy up at the start of the inning given the pitch count.

  60. Mark Moore

    And that’s how it unwinds. A little indecision by Lopez (who barely gets any playing time anyway) and we miss a shot at a DP.

    • Jim t

      He takes fielding practice everyday regardless of its here or in minors. His lack of playing time should have nothing to do with that play

      • Mark Moore

        But fielding practice doesn’t equal game situations like that. You don’t have to make snap judgements in practice. That appears to be at least part of his hesitation there. No guarantee of a DP, but no chance of it either.

      • Jim t

        Mark he has been playing here and the Minors. Lack of playing time has no bearing on his failure to make that play. Last I checked it was the same game.

  61. LDS

    Another day for the record books? Joining the elite few that have lost no hitters?

    • Oldtimer

      I think this is just the sixth time ever. Not sure.

      Joe Nuxhall won a game in 1964 when Ken Johnson of the Colt 45s (Astros) no hit the Reds,

  62. docproc

    Alejo Lopez is a bad joke in the field.

  63. greenmtred

    That run-scoring play might give us a little insight into why the Reds could be uneasy about Lopez as a starting infielder. Might have been tough to get the double play on the slow bouncer, but his hesitation eliminated any chance.

    • Mark Moore

      Possibly. The hesitation was there. Then again, he never plays anymore, so the lack of game time is also probably a factor.

      • Joe P.

        No excuse. You have to be ready field your position and know what you’re going to do if the ball is hit to you. What are you going to do if it’s hit hard or if it’s hit slow? He looked like he didn’t have a plan if it was hit slowly to him.

  64. Eddie

    Send Lopez right back immediately that was easy decision for a double play every time smh disappointing thanks Lopez for the lost ?

    • Hanawi

      Was on Bell for leaving Greene in for too long.

    • Daytonnati

      We just can’t have nice things.

  65. Mark Moore

    Hard hit by Moose for an out feels like we’re cooked. TJ for the PH effort … not exactly the powerhouse we need here.

  66. Roger Garrett

    Any odds that Greene misses another start because of arm fatigue?I am really tired of David Bell.Greene’s arm is more important then anything Bell may have had on his mind.No HITTER MEANS NOTHING,WIN MEANS NOTHING AND EVEN IF HE STRIKES OUT THE SIDE IN THE 8TH ON 9 PITCHES IT MEANS NOTHING

    • SellTheTeamBob

      118 pitches from a guy who already had TJ and is on a innings limits one would presume.
      Greene must be on the trade block or they don’t want him ever to become a free agent.
      I read comments on here and mlbtrade rumors, and fans either for or against see that the Reds have the worst management in professional sports.

  67. Mark Moore

    But let’s remember, kids. It was a “quality start” …

  68. Eddie

    Why would bell pull almora for tj who hasn’t been hitting get the speed but come on now ugh. This why reds lost 26 games moves like this and players not playing their part frustrating

  69. William

    Three walks….do not blame the inning on Lopez

    • Eddie

      I get the walks Warren n Lopez both gotta go but Lopez shouldn’t have hesitate should knew what to do but this team a joke when we thought they turn the page. Greene was perfect most part today no hitting and no run til that play

      • Moon

        I do not think Greene should not have been in that game at that point.

  70. KYpodman

    what is Bells’ infatuation with Warren!!!!! Diaz should have been in!

  71. RedsMonk65

    Wow. We toss a no-hitter, and still lost. Just wow.

    • RedsMonk65

      Still, outstanding outing for Greene. Wish our bats would have shown up.

  72. Kevin H

    Another mismanagement from Bell. No reason for Greene to pitch the 8th. Then after 1st walk leaves him in
    No Diaz to be found who is your best pitcher out of the bullpen.

  73. Tom Reeves

    If I was Hunter Greene, I’d have a hard time not tearing up the clubhouse.

    He has more restraint than me, however.

  74. Mark Moore

    Thrall must not be able to see the pitches. He called that last ball on TJ “up and in” when it was clearly right at his belt or a little below. Did something like that multiple times today. Still beats Sadak’s running off at the mouth about everything and nothing.

    Tough loss. Tough split on the series. Hope Hunter doesn’t have to skip a full rotation now.

    • TR

      Thrall seemed a bit ‘beklempt’ today, but I much prefer him to Sadak.

  75. Daytonnati

    I think Doug should let the site have the occasional “Purge” for profanity. Maybe a half-hour window 🙂

  76. Eddie

    First team to lose to no hitter since 2008 to do that

    • MuddyCleats

      If it was going to happen, you could predict it for the Reds. Lost w/out giving up a hit – finding ways to lose – game in and game out it’s the walks, errors, base running blunders and poor ABs

  77. LDS

    I was going to give Bell some credit for letting Greene go a bit further. But pitching Warren ahead of Diaz? Worse, ph’ing Friedl for Almora? If a pinch hitter, why not Stephenson? Friedl is hitting less than .200.

    • Votto4life

      It’s a real pattern with the Reds. First, they say a player is fine and they are just giving him a day off, but he is available to pinch hit. Then he doesn’t start or pinch hit. Next thing you know the player is placed on the IL.

      • LDS

        Sadly, I think you’re right. A split with the Pirates is inexcusable, especially given they didn’t have a hit

  78. Mark A Verticchio

    This is the kind of season it has been. Truth be told Greene should have never gone out for the 8th and Cowboy knew that, you could tell by the way he was talking. Even if Bell was going to let him start the 8th no reason for not having someone up before inning even started. To top it off he chose the wrong reliever. I am not blaming the game on Lopez but you can tell he has no place on this roster.

    • Kevin H

      Well happy Sunday. Greene has pitched great his last two outings. Yet 0-2 , not blaming him as he has been great.

    • Moon

      Agree. He had already thrown enough pitches after 7. And if I never see that lineup again it will be too soon.

  79. RedsMonk65

    A darn shame the loss is pinned on Greene, who was fabulous. This loss belongs to the non-existent offense.

  80. JB

    It’s not a no hitter since they only pitched 8 innings. At least recognized by mlb.

  81. MuddyCleats

    The GOOD News is Hunter grew Big League today, and I think it should show Mgt this team has the SP to compete when they pitch up to their capabilities.

    Time for Mgt to get some hitters for the future; I don’t see Moose, Pham, Votto or Naquin being part of that?

  82. Roger Garrett

    Somebody should be demanding Bell to explain what he was thinking sending Greene back out and then again why he left him in to throw 118 pitches in game that means nothing.Nobody can be that clueless that has a pulse for what Greene could mean to this franchise.If he says anything about a no hitter or that he had nobody in the pen he needs to be fired.

    • Daytonnati

      Second time this year he could have gotten Greene out of the game with a stellar start and a no-decision, but just like LA, he let Turner homer off him for a loss, and then again today letting him walk two in the 8th, after he gave up no hits. It is disheartening and dispiriting I am sure.

    • Votto4life

      Bell was in a no win situation. If he took Greene out people would have been complaining about that too.

      The Reds are 17 games under .500. I am OK with Bell giving the young man a shot at a no hitter.

  83. Joe P.

    Making history again in all the wrong ways.

  84. Votto4life

    Greene reminds me of Doc Gooden. He can just be dominating. He will be fine.

    The Reds offensive is just anemic. Not surprising really, when you lose 89 Home Runs over the off season.

    The Pirate’s starter dominates left handed hitters. Before this game they were hitting just hitting .118 against. So when your line up includes the likes of Moose, Naquin and Moran chances are you’re not going to score a lot of runs.

  85. Roger Garrett

    100% correct which is why Greene should have been gone after 7.No need to send him back out there and risk injury.

  86. Mark A Verticchio

    Sam really got on Bell for not having anybody up in the bull pen, as he said he was not going to throw a no hitter and who cares about a combined no hitter. I know a lot of people like Bell, but today shows how he is an ill prepared manager. Bell needs to go he can’t manage a talent like Greene, let alone all of the other young pitchers the Reds have.

    • Hanawi

      We’ve already seen multiple starting pitchers get pulled this year when pitching a no-hitter. It really isn’t a big deal anymore. There was nothing to gain by sending him out in the 8th.

    • RedsMonk65

      I agree that this was inexcusable.

  87. Roger Garrett

    I had no problem with Bell running the Reds the next 2 years cause it won’t matter at all regarding wins and losses but when he starts doing things that risk injury to a guy like Greene then I do have a problem.Greene has an innings limit or at least I expect the Reds to have one so we push him to 118 pitches in his what 6th start after missing one start already.I have said enough and am gone.

    • RedsMonk65

      Mark Sheldon: 118 pitches is the most by a starter in MLB this year

    • VegasRed

      With you 100% on both the pitch count, coming out for the 8th and the inexplicable pinch hitting choice, Roger.

      Bell is going to Bell. And there will be no accountability. Not from the weak sauce Cincy media nor the Reds. Bell is bulletproof and this season proves it.

      Flame away Bell apologists!

  88. TR

    Great pitching by Hunter Greene. He should not have been sent out for the eighth inning