So far, this has been a week of  positive firsts for the beleaguered Cincinnati Reds. Sunday afternoon they accomplished a feat they had not previously managed this season, winning a series. Last night the home team was at it again, posting their first multiple game winning streak of the season with a 10-5 victory over the Brewers. Tonight the Reds look to make it 3 straight wins in the middle game of this 3 game set versus NL Central leaders. Game time at GABP is 6:40pm Eastern.

Starting Lineups

        BREWERS

SP: Freddy Peralta

            REDS

SP: Hunter Greene

1. Kolten Wong (2B)
2. Willy Adames (DH)
3. Christian Yelich (LF)
4. Rowdy Tellez (1B)
5. Luis Urias (SS)
6. Tyrone Taylor (RF)
7. Jace Peterson (3B)
8. Lorenzo Cain (CF)
9. Victor Caratini (C)
1. T.J. Friedl (CF)
2. Brandon Drury (3B)
3. Tommy Pham (LF)
4. Mike Moustakas (DH)
5. Tyler Stephenson (C)
6. Colin Moran (1B)
7. Tyler Naquin (RF)
8. Kyle Farmer (SS)
9. Matt Reynolds (2B)

Mike Moustakas returns after a single day on the undesignated (COVID related) injured list.  Check below in News and Notes for the entire list of Reds roster moves today.

Starting Pitchers

Reds: Hunter Greene, RH

Brewers: Freddy Peralta, RH

Pitcher IP ERA WHIP BB% K%
Freddy Peralta 23.0 5.09 1.35 9.9 29.7
Hunter Greene 20.2 8.71 1.89 10.7 28.2
Links: Hunter Greene’s Stats Stats | Freddy Peralta’s Stats

Hunter Greene

In the Reds bad old days of 1982-84, many Reds fans, including yours truly, tracked “Soto days”, to be sure to catch the one guaranteed exciting game each week, Mario Soto’s turn in the rotation. When the announcement came that Hunter Greene had made the Reds starting day roster, the same sort of excitement seem to be blossoming around him.

Unfortunately, after a couple of solid starts, Greene has run into hard hard times. His velocity has dropped off significantly from the 100mph norm he established at Class AA and AAA last season. Just as concerning, his command and control has also slipped.  Predictably, these issues have led to him being hit hard, to the tune of 7 home runs in his last 2 starts (7.0 IP).

Luis Castillo returned to rotation on last night (May10). Connor Overton has given the Reds 2 consecutive strong starts (2.53 ERA/ 10.2 IP). In this context, today’s start could be pivotal for Greene’s short term future in the Reds rotation

Splits

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB K AVG OBP SLG
RHH 57 11 1 0 7 5 14 .300 .368 .740
LHH 46 7 4 0 3 6 15 .325 .413 .650

Pitch Usage

Metric 4-Seam Slider Change
Velo 98.6 87.2 89.8
Usage 59.2% 32.5% 8.3%

Freddy Peralta, RH

Freddy Peralta is off to s struggling start after being an NL All Star pitcher in 2021. Why? His K rate is down by ~4% despite still pushing 30%. His BB  rate is up 1% to 11. However the real story is that his 2022 BABIP, .339, is a full .107 points above his 2021 level. The results of more walks, fewer Ks and the higher BABIP carry through to a 2022 OBP allowed of  .317, an increase of  .056 over 2021. Luckily for Peralta and the Brewers, his Slugging % allowed hasn’t inflated on pace with the OBP.  Reds fans can hope the tonight is the night, Peralta’s slugging starts catching up.

Splits

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB K AVG OBP SLG
RHH 55 13 3 0 1 5 14 .265 .327 .388
LHH 46 8 1 1 0 5 16 .205 .304 .282

Pitch Usage

Metric 4-Seam Slider Curve Change
Velo 93.1 80.5 77.6 86.8
Usage 56.8% 20.7% 10.6% 11.9%

Bullpen Outlook

Brewers

Brad Boxberger and Trevor Gott, both frontline setup men, were used Monday and may be restricted or unavailable tonight.  On the flip side, both  the Brewers hammers, Josh Hader and Devin Williams, are well rested.

Reds

Alexis Diaz appears unavailable tonight after throwing 30 pitches Monday. Luis Cessa and Joel Kuhnel (18 and 15 pitches respectively Monday)  figure to be limited tonight. Art Warren is possibly restricted coming off a 28 pitch appearance Sunday.

When and Where

  • Game time: 6:40pm ET
  • Where: Great American Ball Park
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio, MLB.tv
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 84°, sunny, 1% chance of rain

News and Notes

It was a busy day of roster juggling for the Reds again today. Here is the summary.

GO REDS!


Data and stats courtesy of  Fangraphs and Baseball Reference

126 Responses

    • Jim Walker

      That is a decision for a pay grade well above mine. 😉 In addition to Overton and Castillo, Mike Minor is starting a rehab at AAA tonight and would follow up on Sunday with a 60-65 pitch count then if all goes well. And there is Graham Ashcraft, the next Reds hot prospect in line at AAA, who is off to a solid start.

      Who knows?

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      • MBS

        Is Ashcrafts solid start an illusion? He has given up 15 runs, but only 5 earned.

  1. Mark Moore

    I’m of the opinion that you send Greene back to L’ville if he doesn’t really show the stuff tonight. I get he’s a drawing card, but the future cost of letting him get hammered isn’t worth it.

    Let’s see what we can manage tonight against the Bernies.

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    • Rut

      1000% agree.

      Look — I get that some are extra sensitive to the issue, but it would also probably get the Reds an extra year of control over Hunter.

      If the performance is not there, why pay “extra” for this year, just to potentially ruin him by letting him get abused so badly?

      The Reds can’t be accused of stashing him for contract control purposes at this point. Just seems like an obvious move for the long term, almost regardless of what Hunter’s results are tonight.

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  2. Melvin

    Concerning the lineup I have to ask why it our best all around hitter batting 5th?

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    • Doc

      Did you notice that Drury is hitting for higher average, more home runs, more rbi and higher slugging percentage than the fifth place hitter whom you say is the best all around hitter?

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      • Melvin

        There are other people besides Drury at the top of the order. Want to score the most runs? Put your best hitters at the top. You then have a decent chance to score every time the lineup is turned over. We DO need something called runs.

  3. Bet on Red

    Agreed with the assessment that Greene gets sent down if his start is less then average… there is movement on the injured pitchers getting back. Also, While Greene dominated double-A, he was not so dominant in Triple-A.

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  4. Mark Moore

    I’d rather see him face Tyler than Urias, but still … way too many pitches and batters in the 1st inning for my taste.

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  5. Indy Red Man

    The Reds signed a pitcher that had a solid season in Korea. Yeah they have AA level hitting at best and probably not even that good, but I think they learn how to pitch to contact because they usually make contact

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  6. Mark Moore

    I’d say “no damage” but the number of pitches, especially the non-strikes, is concerning.

    Time for the boys to put up some support crooked numbers.

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    • Jim Walker

      Other than the walks, the pitch count wasn’t a disaster. Nothing worse than Mahle or Castillo often do.

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      • Doc

        26 pitches in the first is a disaster. That is two innings worth of pitches in an efficient game. What did the Cowboy say the other night? You target for 12-13 pitches per inning, 15 max.

      • Mark Moore

        True enough. Especially Mahle the Nibbler.

      • Jim Walker

        @Doc> plan for 13-15 and hope to get out under 20. The Cain AB was the difference between the 21 or 22 he needed in the 2nd and 12-15 pitch inning. Cain spoiled at least 3 pitches he would not have gotten to if they had been 101-102. One down and away. One up and running in. The final out was extended when the fouled away a pitch at 99 that was up and running away; he doesn’t get that one at 101-102.

  7. Old-school

    Greene needs to learn to pitch to major league hitters and throw early strikes

    He wont get better in AAA

    His 99 at the top of the strike zone is unhittable

    Id start there

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    • Jim Walker

      The extra 2-3MPH he has “lost” cost him 5-10 pitches in pitch count in the 2nd inning. Cain would not have gotten to the 100mph pitch at the knees away or 99mph pitch up and running in he fouled off if they had been 102. Then the 3rd batter fouled one that was 99 and away at the shoulders he would not have gotten to at 101-102.

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  8. LDS

    Just curious. HG’s BB/9 is up about 50% over his minor averages. Is that typical or is this something DJ & company are teaching. It seems to be a staff wide affliction.

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    • Old-school

      The problem with DJ is he teaches miss bats instead of soft contact

      Thats what pitchers do when they are told dont allow contact… miss bats

      Thats hard to do in mlb unless you are max scherzer or jacob deGrom or Josh Hader

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      • LDS

        Too much emphasis on spin rates and velocity. Whatever happened to old fashioned pitch selection, placement, and deceptive motions?

  9. Mark Moore

    Last one to Cain was NASTY!!!!

    More of that sequence, please.

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  10. Mark Moore

    A little better this time. Only 20 pitches and more strikes vs. balls.

    Time to light it up, guys!

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  11. Kevin H

    Greene will be fine. He is a 21 year old mlb pitcher. He is learning this year and will have some bumps in the road.

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    • Mark Moore

      I tend to agree. My concern is if they keep letting him get shelled and throw non-strikes without any remediation.

      Reply
  12. Old-school

    Im flummoxed

    Reds hitting opposite field and scoring runs

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  13. MBS

    Minor 3 innings 4 K’s 0 Hits 0 BB, that’s a good sign. Maybe we will have him on the big club in short order.

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  14. GreatRedLegsFan

    Stephenson’s ability to hit the other way is just outstanding.

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    • SOQ

      One of my fondest memories was when we were moving from Macon, Ga to Springfield, Ohio. I was 8 and my sister was 4. As we drove through Chattanooga, she got real excited and started shouting “Chagatuna, Chagatuna 🙂

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  15. GreatRedLegsFan

    With Castillo, Mahle and Overton already lined up, plus Minor on his way back, it leaves the last starting spot for Greene until Lodolo returns, then further roster moves to be made.

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  16. Mark Moore

    Looked to me like Drury hesitated just a bit. Great throw, though.

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      • Mark Moore

        Kind of … like I said, Drury seemed to hesitate. His lead was HUGE.

    • Joe P.

      It didn’t look like a double steal. Drury took a step back towards first base as the pitcher started his delivery to the plate and he didn’t take off for second until Friedl took off for third. In a double steal, both runners take off almost simultaneously which didn’t happen. It looked to me like Drury tried to take 2nd expecting the catcher to throw to 3rd.

      However, if it was a called double steal attempt, the timing was off.

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  17. VaRedsFan

    Feet first sliding base stealers should be out just on principle

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    • JB

      Drury would have been safe if he slid normal. Not sure whst he was doing there. Ended up 6 feet pass the bag

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      • SOQ

        Yep, The body falling back away from the tag, and the trailing foot hooking the bag. Pete changed all that

      • Mark Moore

        Possibly AAA. Figure Barrero needs a little time once he’s off the IL to get oriented, then there’s room for McClain. That’s unless they want to move him to a different position.

  18. Mark Moore

    Discount that first inning and Hunter had a decent night. 5 innings, progressively better, I’d vote for him to stay around.

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    • Doc

      I agree he had a solid outing but I can’t discount the first inning. Those 26 pitches may well have cost him a loss, especially with Captain Hook at the wheel. However, it was a really good outing overall, and a good step in the right direction. He did what he needed to do.

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      • Jim Walker

        Also agree but if Greene isn’t going to be able to reach back and throw 101-102 in spots with command and control, he still has considerable development to go.

        The first inning was terrible in terms of control. However he lost at least a dozen to 15 more pitches when he hit spots with 2 strikes at 98-100 that the batters barely spoiled and would not have reached with that little extra oomph. That extra heat has been his put away pitch in those circumstances. Now it looks like he needs to adjust.

  19. Kevin H

    Gutierrez to me will be sent down. When Lodolo comes back, and Minor joins rotation. I would think Overton goes to bullpen? Any thoughts, as I don’t see Lodolo or Greene in bullpen.

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    • Mark Moore

      No pen for Lodolo and Greene. Better they go to AAA and continue to start.

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    • Bet on Red

      Vlad would be the one i send down, but i would move Overton to the bullpen though, he has the perfect length to be the long man out of there

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    • Joe P.

      I wouldn’t mind Gutierrez going to the pen. I think he could be effective there and then maybe bring him back to the rotation at a later date. I would Santillan back to AAA to work on his control and his conditioning.

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  20. Old-school

    Hunter greene got better!
    Reds in a ball game against the Brewers

    More of this!

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  21. Indy Red Man

    Well the Reds pen can lose the game, but big picture wise Hunter took a nice step forward tonight!

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  22. Kevin H

    Amazing how inherited runners score off this bullpen. Greene pitched well and hopefully he doesn’t get the loss.

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    • Joe P.

      He can’t throw strikes, especially on the first pitch, so the Brewers are taking pitches on him. There’s effectively wild, but Santillan is uneffectively wild. They need to send him to AAA.

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  23. Bet on Red

    I will take this from Hunter Greene, Walks were obviously high, but one of the earned runs was inherited. I would definitely give him another start

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  24. Daytonnati

    Bell could have pulled him after 5 very good innings and over 90 pitches. But nah, let him give up an infield hit, pull him and let Santillan deliver the ER and loss. I think a cleain no decision would have been psychologically useful for Greene after his last couple of outings.

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    • greenmtred

      I’m sure that Bell was aware of all the criticism he would get from RLN about pulling a pitcher who was doing well, and decided to wait.

      Reply
  25. SOQ

    Hunter and Lodola are the future of the Reds, that is, until we get close to competing. Then Bye Bye. Thus, the lot of small market teams

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  26. Dennis Westrick

    This Reds pitching staff has to be leading the majors in Walks and HBP per 9 innings!

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  27. Mark A Verticchio

    Santillan may be the guy that needs to back to AAA. He has had a horrible season thus far. Sad, because I had high hopes for him.

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    • JB

      Agree. I think he needs to go down work on a few things and get his head straight

      Reply
  28. Mark Moore

    Mississippi tied it up in the 5th and is now threatening in the 6th against our Lookouts.

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  29. Old-school

    Santillan 2 steps back this year

    Vlad 3 steps back

    Larkin preaching my narrative

    Need roll over grounders and outs and soft contact

    This isnt vanderbilt where u get to pick 5/10 top pitchers in high school every year and just strike everyone out

    Its mlb

    Derek johnson doesnt understand hes no longer coaching elite pitchers at vanderbilt against mercer and tennesse tech and mississippi and georgia

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  30. Mark Moore

    Sims has no margin for error tonight. Just needs to get the outs.

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  31. Daytonnati

    I guess Sims as a possible starter has left the station? I thought he could have been solid. I still remember that debut where he no-hit the Cardinals through 7.

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    • Bet on Red

      i remember that, but i think the issue with sims starting was he couldn’t develop the stamina for every 5th day, 6IP starts

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  32. Joe P.

    The Reds have swung at some bad pitches tonight. Not patient enough at the plate early on when they had the lead. Now they are behind the 8 ball.

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    • Mark Moore

      Completely agree. Then they laid off a couple 3rd strikes as a result. Just some bad choices.

      Reply
  33. Old-school

    Derek johnson approach is the problem
    Miss bats
    Contact is bad

    What his unintended message to the pitchers is

    Is dont throw strikes .

    That works if Trevor bauer 2020 andbieber 2020 and DeGrom is your staff
    Doesnt work if Sanmartin or Hoffman or Gutierrez is pitching

    Luke Fickell says his job is to take players and develop them past their God given talent

    Derek Johnson has never done that !!!

    He takes 5 stars and dominates 3 stars

    Reds are underdogs. When has DJ ever elevated an underdog 3 star to a 5 star?

    Hes great at taking broken 5 stars and rehabilitating them .

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    • VaRedsFan

      Welcome to my theory on DJ.
      Philosophy of not throwing strikes. All Reds pitchers seemed to have good control, until brought up, then the nibbling starts.

      I think Bauer was a drveline/Boddy guy. Who knows if DJ had an influence on his pitching style.

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  34. Mark Moore

    Mississippi pushed one across. They’re up 4-3 heading into the Nooga half of the 7th.

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  35. Mark Moore

    I’m afraid we’re not going to claw our way back tonight. Good outing by Greene. He deserved better than the loss he’ll take, but at least we saw improvement in game.

    The Bernies just have the right pieces, especially their BP.

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  36. Bet on Red

    There has been some good defensive plays by the brewers today…. if not for Tony this game might have still been tied. there may still be a chance

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  37. Old-school

    Reds are 4-24 with 10k’s and 1 run

    This is unwatchable

    Stop accumulating players that cant give you a professional at bat with no plate discipline or bat to ball skills

    This was a winnable game

    Sick and tired of watching K’s

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  38. Eddie

    This game over Greene look better this time Even hit triple digits. Wonder rumor of trading mahle n Castillo are true. 13 games behind after tonight lost

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  39. Bet on Red

    Yea, I know what they were trying with Strickland but this isnt it

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  40. Mark Moore

    And that’s the final nail in the coffin tonight for me.

    Been fun as always because of y’all. The not winning after we were spoiled with two in a row … not so much fun.c

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  41. LDS

    Strickland is not doing any better than Santillian. Why is he still in there? I guess Bell has to cover the over/under.

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    • Joe P.

      Strickland had a rough go, but the Reds defense didn’t help him out. The throw by Reynolds to Farmer didn’t have enough on it to turn two, allowing Wong to beat it out, and Adames got an infield hit because of poor positioning at 3rd by Drury. Why Drury was on the outfield grass, with a runner at 3rd and Adames’ speed at the plate, makes little to no sense.

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  42. Old-school

    Bullpen stinks
    DJ stinks
    Offense stinks

    This was a winnable game

    95 -98 loss team

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  43. Joe P.

    What was with the defensive positioning on that ground ball to third by Adames? Drury was on the outfield grass. That ball took 3 hops before Drury fielded the ball. If he’s positioned at 3rd base, on the infield, that’s a routine out.

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  44. Bet on Red

    seems there was a bailout before the rally… not me though

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  45. VaRedsFan

    You had to know that inserting Strickland into a 2 run game would come back to haunt. 3rd time Bell has used HS in a close game this year. Same results.

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    • LDS

      Bell’s letting him work through his problems. Couple of years and he’ll be all squared away.

      Reply
  46. Indy Red Man

    Over baby!! What is going on with Counsell? Leaving Williams in for all that is about as bad as anything Bell has ever done. That was crazy. Obviously he didn’t have it wayyyyyy before Naquin came up.

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      • Indy Red Man

        Congrats man! Gabp will find a way usually….like that 9-2 Reds win that was 2-2 late.

  47. Joe P.

    The Brewers defense tonight has been the difference so far. Outstanding defense.

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    • Jim Walker

      +100 Yep, Two run saving plays to get them out of the 8th 1 ahead versus tied or 1 behind.

      Reply
  48. Old-school

    Kyle Farmer with the 62.7 mph exit velo broken bat blooper to SS

    Per baseball savant

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    • SOQ

      Yep, Farmer’s the problem. It’s ALL Farmer’s fault. This team would be SO much better without Farmer.
      Sorry, Not sorry. I disagree

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  49. Indy Red Man

    Santillan 6.97
    Sims 9.45
    Strickland 6.59
    Warren 8

    That makes Strickland the ace of the bunch….lollllllllll

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    • Old-school

      Hader coming???

      Maybe those middle innings and 10ks mattered

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  50. Bet on Red

    this one on the bullpen again… no faith in hunter strickland and minimal faith in tony now. gotta perform as advertised

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  51. LDS

    Just bad field management all around. Oh well, the two game winning streak was always a mirage.

    Reply
  52. Mark A Verticchio

    Bell’s decisions continue to hurt this team and will as long as he is the manager, he will never change.

    Reply

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