The Cincinnati Reds (3-19) will travel to Wisconsin to start a three game series with the first place Milwaukee Brewers (15-8) tonight at 7:40 PM. If for some reason you haven’t heard, the Reds have the worst record in baseball, they are off to their worst start in franchise history and have lost 17 of 18 games. There is a slim glimmer of hope with 7 games against the Pittsburgh Pirates coming soon, but the Reds have to deal with a hot Brewers team in Milwaukee first. The Brewers have won 5 of 6, and since starting the season 4-5, they have gone 11-3.

The Reds got some good news today that Tyler Stephenson is back from the concussion-IL, but as with literally anything else in this glorious season, that joy can not last for more than ten seconds. Joey Votto was placed on the Covid-IL.

Starting Pitchers

It’s not very often you will get a starting pitching matchup with two pitchers with that drastic of a difference between their ERA and their expected stats/peripheral numbers. Both Tyler Mahle and Brandon Woodruff have not go the results they’ve wanted through their first couple starts of 2022, but both appear to be poised to bounce back very quickly.

Starting Lineups

News and Notes


It’s been some pretty tough days for our beloved Cincinnati Reds. This series in Milwaukee does not offer much hope as the starting point for things at least to starting turning ever so slightly in a more positive direction. However, baseball sure can be a funny game sometimes. Go Reds!

117 Responses

  1. Melvin

    Worst record in baseball? I hadn’t hear that. 🙂

  2. Dick Paterson

    It’s just not fair that the Reds have to play teams with Major League players on their rosters.

  3. Votto4life

    Another “be careful what you ask for? “ article. We could have had Willy Adames but it would have cost us Jonathon India. Now you wouldn’t have wanted that now would you?

    The article fails to mention there were about 6 good free agent short stops available at the time.

    Beginning to not trust any writers associated with this team.

    • Votto4life

      Nick, I wasn’t referring to you. I meant Nightengale.

      • RedsFan11

        Couldn’t agree more in regards to the “writers” that are associated with Reds/MLB and the enquirer. I understand the ole phrase “don’t bite the hand that feeds you” but at some point even they will run out of gaslight stories

        Appreciate redlegnation and freelance guys like Chad calling this team ownership out.

  4. LDS

    I’m always skeptical of stories likes the Adames story. It feels like a “we tried but they asked too much” deflection.

  5. JB

    The over/under for errors tonight by our third and first baseman?

  6. Magnum 44

    So Nick do you have to watch this or can you pay attention to the live recap on your phone and watch real TV? It’s going to be tough polishing this turd tonight. Woodruff Mahle my guess 5-1

  7. RedsFan11

    Mahle is a good road starter and for some reason I feel optimistic he will have a good outing. I say he goes 6 gives up 1, but Reds still lose

  8. Mark Moore

    What inning will see the regular 4+ run gift to the Bernies?

    Asking for a friend …

    • Old-school

      3rd time through the order

      Mahle pitched well last time and would have had the win but Santillan wasnt ready to pitch.

      If the Reds want to win in 2023 and certainly 2024…they are going to need pitchers over the age of 28. Mahle and Castillo have pitched a lot of winning baseball.

      Nick- I love your positive spin and outlook but posting career stats against the starting pitcher is so Dusty baker and small sample size. Lorenzo Cain in 2022 isnt lorenzo Cain from 2019 and neither is Kolten Wong or Christian Yellich 2019.

  9. Indy Red Man

    Call up Albert Almora already? When you can call a guy up and he’s immediately your best defensive OFer then you do it. Especially when he’s also a better hitter then Fraley, Friedl, and probably Senzel too. Put him in RF

  10. Pharmer85

    Moose allowed to play defense? Unbelievable. Watching him stumble around trying to catch a pop up behind 1st base on Sunday was almost comical. Terrible at 3rd also. Should DH against righthanders ONLY if he has to play at all.

  11. Mark Moore

    Thank you, Mr. Moose. We crave consistency …

  12. Mark A Verticchio

    Was there any doubt that Moose would strike out on fastballs. The man is done and batting him 4th is on Bell.

  13. Mark Moore

    And he nibbled Yelich to a BB … SMH

  14. Bet on Red

    I need this game to speed up a bit Mahle… lets go for more then one out an hour

    • Mark Moore

      At his 1st inning pace, that would be 120 pitches.

  15. Mark Moore

    Well, no damage except those 30 pitches by Mahle

  16. Indy Red Man

    Mahle 30 pitches? Lorenzen had 8 shutout innings on 77 or something the other day til they rallied in the 9th. Lorenzen still got the W. Cionel Perez 6.2 shutout so far for the O’s. Bob Steve still with the Rocks and doing ok. Whats wrong with our coaching? Can the Reds do anything right?

    • Mark Moore

      And Woodruff with 27 … through 2 … 😮

    • Old-school

      Lorenzen is 30 and injured constantly and given every opportunity.
      Career WAR 3.4

      Mahle is 27. Career War 7.9.

      • Indy Red Man

        I know, but maybe it was because he was trying to hump it up to 100 all the time out of the pen. Somebody got thru to him in Anaheim I think.

        Not even saying Lorenzen is better then Mahle anyway….just increasing his effectiveness and baseball IQ basically

      • Indy Red Man

        And Lorenzen wasn’t given an opportunity to start this year? They could’ve had some foresight and signed him for 2 years as a starter.
        Doesn’t take a genius to see that he had potential. Charlie Morton stays in great shape and wasn’t that good in his 20s.

        They had to let him walk so Vlad & SanMartin & Minor could get in the rotation? 2 nobodies and a has-been that was a C+ pitcher in his prime

      • Old-school

        I got no problem with giving Lorenzen a 1 year prove it deal . Hes a competitor and worker and probably has a role in the lineup and a DH with this mess right now. Minor??? Insanity
        Lorenzen is better than 5 guys positionally right now

  17. Mark A Verticchio

    I always thought the Reds gave up on Cionel Perez to soon.

    • TR

      Will that also happen to Reiver Sanmartin?

  18. Indy Red Man

    The Jay Bruce thing always makes me cringe (laugh?) too. Rumor was Wheeler from the Mets at first even though he had TJ at the time. Then it was Brandon Nimmo (.392 career obp and .837 ops), but ended up being Dilson Whatever who works at Costco now. Thats how the Reds roll

  19. Magnum 44

    Watching this Reds team is like sitting inside your garage with the door closed and the car running.

    • Daytonnati

      With “Gentle on My Mind” on the radio. 🙂

  20. Mark Moore

    Long run for Mr. Moose … he’s probably winded after that

  21. Old-school

    Some ugly hitting statistics come Thursday…if you thought ugly was now.

    • JayTheRed

      What are you talking about? The Reds have 5 guys batting over .200 finally in the lineup. That must be a season record.

  22. Mark A Verticchio

    Farmer is in a state of decline as a shortstop, it was always a matter of time.

  23. Mark Moore

    And the 4+ run inning may just come early tonight. Certainly set the table for it.

    • Mark Moore

      OK, so only 3. He got Rowdy to chase a couple. Still, racking up the pitches.

  24. Mark A Verticchio

    Ball game 3 and 20, oh my god, please make it stop.

    • JayTheRed

      No, this team is going 3 and 30.. And nobody will be fired.

      • TR

        With this ownership that’s a good bet.

  25. Old-school

    Farmer doing his Moose impression

    Can we just move forward in 2023 with no more 32-39 year olds playing on a 100 loss team? Why do we have a soon to be 35 year old 3b and 32 year old SS and 39 year old 1b on a 100 loss team? When do you admit that Moose farmer and Votto at 3b SS and 1B arent the winning solution going forward on a 100 loss team.

  26. Bet on Red

    and there we go… game lost in the third

  27. Joe P.

    Error, walk, HR – seems about right.

  28. Bet on Red

    you know what, Can one of these bums actually pitch a quality start at least. At least they demonstrated some consequences for actions when they sent Sanmartin back to the minors, but Mahle is supposed to be the pro. I mean come on

  29. Bet on Red

    Bam Pham…. now we have had the obligatory run to avoid the shutout

    • Bet on Red

      WaIT WHAt was THAT?? MOOSE HOMERS?!?!

  30. Mark Moore

    Somebody’s playing for his next contract … or a trade to a contender

    • Votto4life

      Good. I don’t like Pham. He is a self-centered hot head. The Reds can lose 100 games without him.

  31. VaRedsFan

    Pitchers succeeding elsewhere once they get away from Williams.
    DW and Zinter need to be held accountable. Guys regress under their tutelage.

  32. Mark Moore

    Wait … what … who was that wearing The Moose’s uniform?

  33. Old-school

    Blind Squirrel …errr….Moose finds a nut

  34. LDS

    With the exception of Stephenson and possibly Senzel, who in this lineup do you really want to see back next year? Some may say Friedl but I’m not sold. But seriously Moran, Naquin, Moustakas who apparently won’t get in shape, Farmer? Someone needs to tell Bell that the dinosaurs went extinct.

    • Mark Moore

      I’d be fine with Farmer in a utility role, but I’d also be fine with a trade that sends him somewhere he gets a chance to contribute to a post-season run. Maybe Naquin as a 4/5 outfielder.

      • LDS

        I could see that. My concern is that as long as Farmer is on the roster, he’s Bell’s guy and Barrero gets the Lopez treatment.

  35. Mark Moore

    Way to get 2 back. And we’re watching the “goofy golf” show in my house, so I’ve got the game on mute on my laptop. Double bonus that I’m not hearing Sadak.

    • LarkinPhillips

      He is doing a great job making excuses for why the Reds starting pitchers haven’t record 6 innings once this year. David Bell is doing it because he is smarter than everyone else is the short version of it.

  36. Mark A Verticchio

    81 pitches, one out in the 4th, there will be no quality start tonight. Sadek philosophy on not stretching out your staring pitchers is crazy. Welch is putting him in his place.

    • Mark Moore

      Trouble is, Sadak won’t stay in his place. He just has to run his mouth. The old adage of “better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt”

    • TR

      Senzel plays hard, aggressive hitter, potential leader.

  37. Bet on Red

    SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE FIRED. Dont really care who… this is unacceptable. This is Mahle…. better is expected from him

  38. Old-school

    David Bell looks broken…like his team.

    This is a 100 loss team and while I would not fire Bell because that accomplishes nothing…who hires him in 2023 /24/25/26 when his record his awful and he did nothing to advance his resume. bell is realizing that reality now. Hes managing for nothing.

    • Mark A Verticchio

      I don’t disagree but, why are we worried about who hires David Bell in the future.

      • Old-school

        I’m not worried about David bells future. LOL

        Just pointing out that he has none and he realizes it and reds arent firing him soon but hes also stuck on a 100 loss job and doesn’t have a future as an MLB manager. Hes realizing he is done as a winning manager and wont get another chance.

    • LDS

      Yesterday was the day to take action. They didn’t . I’ve resigned myself to Bell ruining the Reds for a couple more years at least and a string of 90+ losses per year.

      • JayTheRed

        LDS I was shocked nothing happened yesterday too.

    • TR

      David Bell is a front office guy. I just hope he doesn’t land in the Red’s FO with his father.

  39. Mark A Verticchio

    This was a horrible for Mahle. Just this inning team give you 2 runs to get you back in the game and you can’t get out of the next inning. Miserable is all I can say.

  40. Joe P.

    Another run given up where the batter reached base via the walk.

    • LDS

      Wonder what would happen if the pitchers quit chasing things like spin rate and velocity and instead focused on selection and placement?

  41. Matt WI

    Earlier on radio call during the trivia, Edgar Renteria’s name came up. Which makes it obligatory to remind us all of the time Dusty told us we had to wait till later in the summer for Renteria to “heat up” while he was fading away at SS.

  42. TheCoastMan

    7.01 ERA for Mahle now… Me oh my. Maybe we should’ve traded him for that box of Cracker Jacks.

    Hopefully, he’ll rebound at some point.

    • Ryan

      Never been better than a third or fourth starter

  43. Mark A Verticchio

    This team can’t win for losing, they score 2 runs to show some life and then give up 2 and they are down 3 again.

  44. Bet on Red

    Farmer needs a day off, I do not remember him having one all year. He needs a break, its obvious he is becoming exhausted

    • TheCoastMan

      Making Woodruff look like the 2nd coming of Koufax…

    • Old-school

      Or maybe you cant accept the fact you are 100% dead wrong and Kyle Farmer isnt an every day major league SS?

      Its may 3 and baseball started late April 7 and you are saying Farmer is tired???? Talk about pathetic excuses.

      Wheres Burt I hate Barerro gummer guy?

      All those Farmer lovers dont have any fuel with Barrero injured. They just have to wallow in Farmers .640 OPS failure

      Being wrong sucks. I get it

      I also said 2 weeks ago pham would be the Reds best hitter after this road trip

  45. Votto4life

    Through 5 innings, reds batters have struck out 11 times… zero walks

  46. Joe P.

    I wonder who that was in the dugout standing behind Bell and India? Maybe Votto let himself go overnight? However, my wife thinks it’s just the batboy.

    • Daytonnati

      I thought it was an optical illusion.

  47. Eddie

    It was nice to see pham and Moose hit back to back hr but that all this offense can do on average. This game is over. Diaz pitching great but mahle needs to do a lot of work or just get something for him he struggle bad. Was nice watch something click sucks votto on IL list

  48. LDS

    We know Mahle is better than this. He has recent numbers to prove it. When does someone step up and say DJ isn’t the guy? Neither is Zinter, know any acquisition whose hitting has improved since joining the Reds? But Zinter is Bell’s guy and Bell is part of the clique.

    • Randy in Chatt

      I admit, the luster sure has worn off on DJ. I used to think he was top notch. This season, not so much

  49. Eddie

    Well I’m done watching haven’t missed anything look how they lost to rockies 10 to 1 this team will be worst than spiders of Cleveland

  50. TheCoastMan

    I wish someone could explain to me why I keep torturing myself like this. Some of you guys, and the rest of my fam, have an excuse – they get Fox Sports free. I am paying Direct for MLB extra Innings to put myself through a torture chamber every night.

    Not to date myself, but I feel like those pledges on Animal House getting those whacks in their underwear, saying, “Mother may I have another.”

    • JayTheRed

      If you don’t have the single team Extra Innings start watching a different team. It’s what I have done. I follow the Reds from afar and on this page. I have only watched 2 full games this year. The Blue Jays on the other hand have been so fun to watch though they got beat up by the Yankees today but most of their games are fun to watch.

  51. Votto4life

    7 innings. Reds batter have 14 strike outs

  52. Votto4life

    I would call up the whole Louisville Bats outfield Cedrola, Almora Jr. and Dawsoni would start all theee of them tomorrow night.

    • LDS

      Works for me. Could they really do worse?

    • TR

      At this point, change is the name of the game.

    • Indy Red Man

      What is Barrero’s status? When is he coming back?

  53. Daytonnati

    Was that a Bud Light Hader was shotgunning in the bullpen?

    • Joe P.

      In Milwaukee, that’s the same as drinking milk.

  54. Indy Red Man

    Lose 18 of 19 and soon to be 20 of 21. Hard to believe

    • TR

      Certainly hard to believe after that encouraging season opening split in Atlanta.

  55. Mark Moore

    That’ll be a wrap for me. Pham had a great night but he can’t do it all by himself. TySteve looks rusty which is to be expected.

    And the beat goes on …

    • LDS

      You can’t clete before Bell’s post game comments. Don’t you want to hear about Moose coming around and the team playing much better?

      • TR

        I have no interest in Bell’s post game comments but Mike appears to be back and Tommy is trying to be the needed team leader.

  56. Votto4life

    16 strike outs by Reds batters tonight.

  57. LDS

    7 game losing streak, 3-20 – 12.5 games behind Milwaukee. Why make changes? Let’s set some records. Maybe Krall can come out tomorrow and tell the fans how the club is moving in the right direction and that Bell is the guy to lead the team to a winning future. I think it’s time fans align spending with performance.

    • JayTheRed

      Ooo… I like that “Fans align spending with performance”. We have a new billboard to put up. Nick Krall will love it.

  58. Votto4life

    Before the season started there were several of us on here sounding the alarm that this season was going to be a disaster. I predicted the Reds would finish with 69 wins. But I didn’t even think the Reds were this bad.

    Not as many optimistic posters around these days. Losing like this can crush the soul of even the front office’s staunchest supporters.

    I first realized the team was taking the wrong path when Dick Williams resigned. Then they compounded the problem by hiring a cheap, inexperienced “Yes” man to take his place.

    The next sign of trouble came when they traded Iglesias for nothing and refused to sign a free agent short stop last year.

    The Reds are in a deeper hole today than they have been in during their entire 153 year history.

    This team may never actually compete again.

    • TheCoastMan

      Oh yeah, we are definitely in new territory now — no mans land.

  59. Eddie

    This team pointless of watching this year. We lost to much to compete for a playoff spot for even new playoff format isn’t possible for this team. I’m pissed where I’m done watch games this year time to cut back even sell my ticket for July even though my friends bought me tickets this year in July for my wedding gift but won’t be participating in this garbage. I been a fan since a kid but this is the worst since I been watching. 3 wins all year pathetic

  60. Doc4uk

    It will take at least three years to have enough young players to even have a winning record. The pitching seems to be in place, but there are no young phenom hitters in the system like Acuna or Guerrero. Allen and De La Cruz and McClain have promise but are not close to that level. Maybe the 17 year old international will become this player but still years away .

    But still the problem is there really needs to be a competitive balance. The reds are really the AAAA team for the big boys. Develop a player(s) and then the Yanks or Dodgers or the Angels or Mets or Braves sign them away . Then develop another player(s) and the same thing happens. The AAAA teams should be competing against one another and not the big market teams. The Reds should play Baltimore and Pittsburg and Miami and Kansas City , but never face the Dodgers, Yanks, Braves, Mets, Cards, Houston, Angels , or San Diego .

    They can afford to make a mistake like we did with Votto’s 10 year contract (should have been 5) or Moose’s and Saurez ‘s and Griffey’s and Akiyama’s and Bailey’s contracts. The Reds simply cannot and yet their GM’s are so bad that the mistakes are made and the future destroyed. In fact all of the Red’s long term contracts have been failures. And the one that was a good signing had language that allowed the player to break the contract early (Castellanos) . So a series of GM mistakes without any real successes?

    Occasionally an Oakland or Tampa or Minnesota will rise out of AAAA and make a run but in the end the world series will be dominated every year by a so called big market team until baseball decides to follow the NFL or NBA model.

  61. Eddie

    Wish we had dick Williams still and dusty baker as manager. Everyone didn’t like dusty yet ever since he left we could never accomplish anything. I know I will get backlash for it but oh well bc it’s true dusty was willing to win with no matter roster we had. We had rough times but we won games we should have