Cincinnati’s offense had three whole hits as their offense continued to slump, losing in shutout fashion 5-0 to the St. Louis Cardinals. The loss was the 11th consecutive defeat for the Reds since Phil Castellini asked the fans “where ya gonna go” on opening day.
| Final | R | H | E |
|---|---|---|---|
| St. Louis Cardinals (9-4) | 5 | 10 | 0 |
| Cincinnati Reds (2-13) | 0 | 3 | 0 |
| W: Hudson (1-0) L: Mahle (1-2) |
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| Statcast | Box Score | Game Thread | |||
The Offense
The Reds offense didn’t get much going in either of the first two innings, but in the 3rd they saw Alejo Lopez walk and Aramis Garcia singled to follow. Lopez tried to take third on the play, and appeared to barely beat the throw, but he slid off of the bag as Nolan Arenado held the tag and Lopez was called out. A line out ended the inning. Cincinnati’s next hit would come in the 5th inning from Nick Senzel, who doubled into the right field corner with one out. As things have gone all season, the offense couldn’t come through and he was stranded. Alejo Lopez would add a single in the 8th inning, but like the other baserunners the team had on Saturday evening, he was left there. That was all she wrote as the Reds were shut out 5-0 as they fell to 2-13.
The Pitching
Tyler Mahle was solid but unspectacular as he allowed two runs in 4.1 innings on five hits and three walks to go along with three strikeouts. After allowing two of the first three batters to reach in the top of the 5th, David Bell went to the bullpen to bring in Art Warren. After striking out Nolan Arenado he gave up an RBI single – which was the second of the two runs charged to Mahle – before ending the inning with a ground out.
Lucas Sims took over in the 6th in his first appearance of the season. He recorded two outs rather quickly, but then gave up a double, hit a batter, and then another double that plated two runs to extend the Cardinals lead to 4-0. Justin Wilson tossed a shutout inning in the 7th, but Hunter Strickland walked two batters and gave up a hit while allowing a run as St. Louis jumped ahead 5-0. Dauri Moreta threw a perfect 9th with two strikeouts to keep the score there and hope for a miracle from the Reds offense. It never came as the Reds lost their 11th in a row.
Key Moment of the Game
Looking back it may have been Alejo Lopez oversliding third base as that would have represented the best opportunity for Cincinnati to score all day.
Notes Worth Noting
The Chicago Cubs scored 21 runs today. The Cincinnati Reds have scored 20 runs in their last 11 games.
Since Phil Castellini asked fans “where you gonna go?” on Opening Day, the Reds have lost 11 straight games by a combined score of 68-20, they’ve had a lead for 18 pitches, and the team owns the worst record in baseball at 2-13. pic.twitter.com/JPDs8dKpDd
— Brandon Saho (@BrandonSaho) April 23, 2022
Up Next for the Cincinnati Reds
St. Louis Cardinals vs Cincinnati Reds
Sunday April 24th, 1:40pm ET
Adam Wainwright (2-1, 2.81 ERA) vs Nick Lodolo (0-2, 8.00 ERA)
I think most fans would like to tell Phil Castellini where to go but probably shouldn’t. 🙂
+5,000
I agree about your key moment in the game. It just shows what a sad state we’re in. 🙂
The key moment in the game was when the first pitch was thrown. It was officially over for the Reds at that point.
If Bell & his coaching staff has a job come Monday, it’s will simply reinforce their lack of seriousness. 8 games out after 15 is unfathomable.
They’ll all be there. Bank on it.
They’re not going to eat money while going 50-112. Just not going to happen. They’ll keep all the coaches all year. I see them trying to foist Moustakas off on someone and maybe not the worst move in the world at this point.
I’d rather they trade Mahle and Castillo, once they have a couple of good starts in a row, for a top prospect or two and then basically play out the string for 2022.
Nothing will change as long as ownership remains the same. Coaching staff is irrelevant.
Who buys the team? Cincinnati isn’t exactly chocked full of billionaires.
Why can’t the Reds find young guys like Jazz Chisholm or Jesus Sanchez? Chisholm led off tonite with his 4th HR (1.125 ops). Don Mattingly had him batting 8th and 9th earlier for some weird reason? I doubt even Bell would come up with that?
Jesus Sanchez is hitting .340 with 3 hrs. They got him in 2019 from Tampa in a trade for some middle relievers. Tampa with the rare trading mistake
Because we trade only for young pitching.
did you forget about jonathan india or tyler stephenson?
Well, we have Barrero, de la Cruz, Mc Clain, Stephenson and India. The last two were impact players last year but are injured this year. Barrero is injured, and the other two are a year or two away. None of this helps this year, but it does appear that the Reds have some young talent, and I didn’t mention the pitchers.
Larkin – “I really didn’t like the energy on the field today”.
How does he like the energy of Red’s ownership/front office?
I think he knows that’s the problem. 🙂
I remember listening to the games in abject horror at the start of the 2018 season. The game is just not well suited to even a very bad team having a 3-15 record. Looking back at those results, the 2018 Reds had 4
(1-run) losses, 4 (2-run) losses and 3 blowouts (5+ run) losses. This team’s numbers are now 0, 2 with 4 blowouts. Much less competitive.
I am ashamed to say I was at the game today and they look even more putrid in person than on tv. This team has embarrassed themselves and this city from management all the way down to the players themselves. Just an absolute pathetic effort today in all aspects of the game…
Hitting : what needs to be said
Plate Discipline : pathetic. No one working counts outside Lopez. Third or fourth inning. Drury takes a walk on four pitches. Pham immediately swings first pitch ground into DP. Votto follows suit with first pitch pop out
Base running : caught stealing and caught at third base. Unacceptable l
Pitching : mahle continues to get way ahead and can’t put players away. 90 pitches in 4 innings
Defense : Moran doesn’t even attempt to stop a hard hit ground ball that goes right by his feet scoring a run. Senzel completely misplays a line drive causing two more runs.
It’s one thing to say injuries or bad luck or blah blah blah. This team clearly has no effort outside one or two players.
They lost almost 100 home runs over the off season. I’m not sure how all of us didn’t see it coming. I predicted they would win 69 games coming into the season. Obviously, I was wildly optimistic.
As Dr. King would say “only in the darkness, can you see the stars”
No where to go from here, but up!
I think Larkin is smart enough to know that this team has a lot of problems on the field but also in the dug out. I have never been a fan of Larkin as a manager, but the time has come to make any move, this can not continue, Bell needs to go. It may not be all his fault but that is the life of a big league manager.
After listening to Barry Larkin as an announcer the past year, I don’t want him anywhere near that dugout. He would just be window dressing. But I concede it would be a Red’s like move to win over a few fans.
Besides that, I do think Barry is smart enough to pass on that job offer. If he smart (I think he is) he will want to be the manager who replaces the manager who replaces David Bell.
But the Reds offering the job to Barry Larkin? Yeah, that is a Redslike move.
Make Joey Votto the Player-manager. Novel.
And it would save on the manager’s salary, which the Castellini’s would like. Because they would have to pay off Bell if they fired him
I wouldn’t be opposed to that David. I mean at least as a transition or interim basis. Not sure Joey would be interested though.
I concur. It’s time for a new voice- direction. I know for a fact Bell & Phil Castellini do not get along…at all!
I also have to ask if, when, they lose tomorrow and no moves are made what is the attendance on Tuesday. My guess is about 8000 in attendance, maybe less.
Probably going to be low regardless, unless they can somehow get permission to hire Pete Rose as manager. (J/K)
How many losses in a row before someone gets fired. Cmon. We all know it’s a team effort but someone’s head has got to roll.
If they fire Bell (which they likely won’t, because that would mean that the Castellini’s admit to a mistake, and they would have to pay off his contract), I actually fear who they might bring in.
I don’t know if Larkin would take the job, and he would probably want a three year contract and a lot of money.
Really, it can’t get any worse, unless they start consistently losing 10 – 0. Maybe next week?
What about Freddy Bevaveties as manager. I Always thought he lit a fire to the team when Bell was ejected.
You are probably right but I hope they replace Nick Krall and let the new GM decide Bell’s fate.
I think it’s more urgent to get the right GM in place. The decision about the field manager can wait awhile. This team isn’t going anywhere this year.
Who cares if Larkin would want a lot of money?
We could only hope that the reds would hire a FO and field manager that would be worth a lot of money because they know what they are doing.
But no one who is good is going to want to work for the clowns in the Castellini family.
There is no way that this ownership fires Bell. They won’t pay two managers at the same time. He will finish out his contract no matter what.
Sell the team, Bob.
28,000 people showed up for the game!!!
Why???
I would guess that it was a really nice day in Cincy today, and a lot of Cardinal fans were there.
Just a guess.
The beat goes on, as Marty Brenneman used to say. But that usually meant the Reds were consistently winning.
They’re consistently losing, and really, no end in sight.
They will lose tomorrow. Bank on it.
The beat goes on.
Make it the beatdown goes on.
28,000 tickets sold. From TV it looked like the real attendance was about half of that, maybe slightly more. Cardinals fans have something to do with it. Also, the first warm weekend of the Spring.
It was an absolutely beautiful day. Nicest day of the year. perfect game time, I’d say there was indeed close to 28K.
8-10K were easily St Louis fans. Im sure I wasn’t alone in using vouchers that I received for the holidays that I was originally excited to use
How many were Cardinal fans?
Yeah, I don’t get it either. At this point even if you actually wanted to go, overpay for parking, tickets, food and drink, why? Why support this crap?
I get that if attendance plummets, the Castellini’s can whine and get other owners behind them in attempts to move the team, to Las Vegas or some place.
Still, at this point is having a team with no intent to contend better than not having a team?
Well, one is a temporary problem and one is a problem forever.
Fire the Brat. Sell the team
Not sure if India, Stephenson can help at this point. Reds will be lucky to win 55 games this year.
Yeah and it’s a lot of pressure to put on your second year players. India and Stephenson should be expected to show some regression, not carry the team.
The Reds, now 2-13, need to go 44-103 the rest of the way to stay off the list of the 10 worst MLB teams since 1900. If they fail to go at least 37-110 the rest of the way, they’ll be the worst team in modern baseball, surpassing the 1916 A’s (36-117).
Another way of putting it: if the Reds win exactly 1/3rd of their remaining games, they got the record.
TJ Hopkins has 2 hrs/6 rbis tonite for Chattanooga. 25 yr old righty hitter….call’em up. What difference does it make?
Wondering if they are doing this to set up getting in the lottery picks so they can get more good draft picks?
Wainwright pitches tomorrow and Reds always hit him. Not this year. Offense is nonexistant.
Ask yourselves why experienced ML’ers come to Cincinnati and suddenly look like little leaguers. The answer to that question would explain a lot.
Like Naquin, you mean? Like Castellanos? Since everybody was panning the acquisitions of Pham and Moran, I assume that you know–on some level–that the answer is that a fair number of those guys are well past their primes.
Past their prime makes them prime candidates for a Reds pickup. But it’s not limited to over-the-hill players. Castellanos benefited from the GABP effect to some degree. Naquin is fragile though not as fragile as Senzel. Moran, a Pirate reject, says it all. But again, Bell has demonstrated that he likes these types of players. So it goes.
The Reds acquire those types of players because they don’t cost much compared to players who would seriously move the needle. You apparently believe that Bell prefers Moran, say, to Arrenado or some other player of similar ability.
Noone gets fired, they already had to eat Shogo contract they will not eat another. The only hope is somebody feels so embarrassed about their performance they quit, and we know that isn’t going to happen.
Thanks, again, Phil.
The Castellini’s deserve this. The Players and the fans do not.
Teams are seldom as good or as bad as most fans think they are. Still, the Reds have pretty much lost the season. The deeper we get into summer, the more we get to football season. Attention on the Redlegs will fade. Which may be good for all concerned.
Reality is what was expected to happen has happened.There isn’t one starter in today’s game that would start on any other team not counting Mahle.Most wouldn’t even be on a big league roster.Play the young guys please.
Well they were already limited offensively then you subtract Stephenson, India, Solano, and Schrock and you saw whats left. Not much
Pump the brakes. Votto and Senzel are off to slow starts, but both would start in plenty of places. Right about now, the Yankees would like to have Farmer in pinstripes. Average offensively and above average defensively. Would be a nice fill in until one of the two chosen ones arrive in the Bronx
3+ years is a very slow start for Senzel. I do like Farmer, but Roger is right, this is not a MLB worthy team. They will be much better if they can get and stay healthy, but 500 is out of reach for this team, honestly getting 63 wins might be a struggle.
The only thing saving Senzel from being a primary focus of the Reds’ futility is that Aquino has turned into an attention grabbing strikeout machine. Senzel’s double Saturday did eke his 2022 OPS+ higher than Aquino (NS= -7/AA= -32). But at defensive WAR, both Fangraphs and BBRef rate Aquino clearly better.
So how much slack (and for how long) does a guy get for being the .#2 overall pick coming up on 6 full years ago. It is not his fault he has been hurt and sick on multiple occasions; but sadly and disappointingly, when he has been on the field, things just haven’t really come together for him (career OPS+ = 75 career bWAR= -1.1).
Absolutely no team leaders on this team. This team should be called Sanford and Son pure junk!!!
Hey, Fred and Lamont had a lot more going for them than this squad. At least they turned junk into something tangible.
“We continue to get tested, we have to continue to believe in what we are doing” David Bell
I know there is nothing he can say and I suppose he has to come out and say something, but his pre/post comments are all so empty. Just a few buzz words “Work hard”, “Stay focused” ya da ya da ya da.
I mean at some point, why would you continue to believe in what you are doing?
Just recycling the same pablum he served us last year. At least corporate America hires communications people, press agents, etc. Most don’t let managers go out and say things they’ll have to live down.
Yeah, I used to work for an employer with under 1,000 employees but no one spoke to press except the communication director lol
Bell is in over his head and has been since day one, it is past time for this to end. He may a nice person but he is not manager material and never has been. He tries so hard to prove how smart he is that it almost always back fires on him.
David Bell didn’t wake up this year and decide to be a bad manager. He has been a bad manager since he got the job. I keep bringing up all the double switches he used to do which unnecessarily depleted our bench. He didn’t seem to understand the purpose of a double switch is to let the reliever stay in longer without batting.
Sparky Anderson, Detroit Tigers, 1989(maybe ’83): 59-103. Lou Piniella, Tampa Bay D-Rays, 2003: 63-99.
I was at a game in Detroit when they were awful, and the fans were screaming for Sparky to be fired. Casey Stengel was a terrible manager, until the Yankees hired him and he had good players around him. Suddenly he was a genius.
Exactly.
I don’t think Bell is the best or worst manager. I do think he’s improved some. However, he’s 191-208 (.478) for his career with a talented 2020 and 2021 roster. When he manages a World Series champion we can start bookending the great seasons with the bad ones. So far, there no great ones.
I know, Old-school. But WS champions are rarely, if ever, deeply flawed teams with great managers. A manager can only do so much. Bell has had some good players in the past two years particularly last year–but injuries to key players and poor performance by several others–Suarez and Moose and Castillo (for part of the season)–plus a bad bullpen made them a team unlikely to go far in the playoffs no matter who managed them.
Kept an eye on the score while at dinner (and before). Words just fail as what I thought might happen played out.
Spending the afternoon doing something fun tomorrow that has nothing to do with Reds baseball. Life is too short and we’re with our DD#1 for a week.
Keep the porch light on, please. I’ll be around.
I’m with you Mark! Going to Viera (Melbourn) FL tomorrow to visit my 3 grandkids!
I wonder if there was a possibility of putting Moustakas into that Mariners trade instead of Suarez. I think they lost a lot of the clubhouse attitude when he left. He’s also playing pretty well for Seattle. Much better than Winker and much better than anyone on the Reds. Moose is a lost cause and can’t even cut it defensively at this point.
In late August last year, the Reds were sitting pretty with a 71-59 record and a 72% chance to make the playoffs. Reasonable speculation at the time was that Bell was to be extended and announced after a few weeks when the playoff spot was almost assuredly locked up. Well, things didn’t go according to plan and the Reds went on a 9-17 streak against mostly weak competitors and Bell himself was left to announce his extension when the Red’s playoff chances were down to less than 2%. The remaining 8 or 9 games left were meaningless. So, in consequential games, this team has gone 11-30 by adding in this year’s results. This represents about 1/4 of an entire season and a winning percentage about equal to the 1962 NY Mets.
Sure, the ownership cut payroll and the GM was limited in options, but isn’t it apparent that there is a much bigger problem in field management? How is it that almost the entire roster fails to hit, pitchers still walk batters excessively, several players come to this season out of shape, underprepared, and vulnerable to soft tissue injuries, and there just seems to be no energy, effort, or plans for improvement other than “tomorrow is another day.” I sense too much “pride” for ownership to fire Bell but there is something rotten in this setup that needs to be extinguished if any hope of the 2024 comeback is to be realized.
Excellent points and excellent questions all the way around and someone needs to be held accountable for these utter failures.
Just think how bad Akiyama was to nit make this team
Serious question, if you were to follow one of the Reds minor league affiliate this season which one would it be?
I want to track the prospects, but also want to follow a team that is competitive in their league.
I can’t follow multiple teams so looking for one, fun competitive Reds affiliate to focus on.
I don’t want to follow another major league team.
Thank you
Funny thing about rooting for a minor league team, if they do well, they’re probably going to promote the players that got them their wins. I’d pick Dayton to follow. They have De La Cruz, Torres, Cerda, Hinds, Phillips, Boyle, and Abbott, also they are in 1st at 10 and 4.
Thank you MBS. I am taking your advice. I just ordered MiLB.TV. Dayton works well for me. I live in Northern Kentucky, but my best friend retired when I did last year. We don’t get to see much of each other. He is my main baseball buddy. After retirement, he and his wife moved to Dayton to be close to their grandchildren. He has been attending Dragon games and texts me updates. So I think I will follow the Dragons and make a couple trips up there to see them play. In addition to having a team to follow, it will help us retain our close friendship. I had know idea how difficult retirement can be on friendships.
I will keep an eye on the Bats as well. I wouldn’t mind spending a weekend in Louisville this summer.
Thanks for the terrific suggestion.
The most common move is to fire the hitting coach. The collective plate approach is maddening so I’m not opposed to it, but it’s a reactionary smoke screen. But if we go there let’s also strip Bell of pitch calling duties.
If there’s a silver lining, there’s no justification to not start Barrero when he returns. Let’s get on with the business of playing the prospects.
Given current roster situation, it wouldn’t make much sense to go for some manager and/or coaches changes. Even with a full healthy roster, Reds were expected to reach a 3rd place at best. However, the team looks heartless and with low morale, something got to give.
From one of the recaps a few days ago:
“Reds worst starts through 11 games since 1955 (how bad it got before win #3 of the season):
2022: 2-9
2018: 2-9 (2-13)
1993: 2-9 (2-9)
1955: 2-9 (2-11)”
Well, the Reds have managed to tie that 2018 mark of 2-13 and they do not have a favorable match-up today, on paper at least, with Wainwright pitching against Lodolo.
Eleven consecutive losses since the deflating home/opener statement of Phil Castellini. Not much hope of the logjam ending with the weakened Reds offense. Influential business colleagues of the principal owner need to make themselves known. Giving up on a season is not the way to go.
Sell the team Bob. Fire Phil.
They are not selling the team until they find out who stole Phillip (Queeg) Castellini’s strawberries.
Dofus, I just watched that movie again the other day. One of my all time favorites!
Bogart’s character in the flick is the epitome of Phil Castellini.
It’s more than obvious to the Red’s fanbase and MLB that Castellini is not financially able to bring a Red’s championship back to Cincinnati.
BC wants the fanbase to believe that he is not financially able. It seems that he is not “willing” to employ all the Red’s financial resources to build a winning roster.
Reading between the lines of Phillip “Queeg’s” opening day diatribe, it seems that the owners pocket the TV checks and depend upon all the other revenue streams to build the roster.
Blaming baseball’s “economic” make-up and fans not coming to games is a cop out. If it is that bad then the Castellini’s should sell the principal owner’s share.
The owners can cry poor all they want, until they open the audited financial statements, I do not believe a word they say.
When a franchise is up for sale, prospective buyers fall all over themselves to own an MLB franchise.
You can’t blame David Bell or his coaching staff for this mess.
All blame lays at the feet of the Castellini family.
Does it really matter if they fire Krall and/or Bell? No one could make a difference with this team. The team heard Phil’s comments too and I’m sure they are not very motivated
You can’t fire Phil, daddy owns the team….so, we’re in for a long bumpy ride
A .133 winning percentage after 15 games is proportional to 22 wins out of 162. The watch is on for the worst team in the history of Major League Baseball. Getting Castillo and Minor back won’t fix getting 5 hits a night. In case anyone is wondering, the Dreads have 25 total extra-base hits so far this season thru 15 games.
India will help but this team needs Joey hitting like last year on top of being absolutely healthy. We can see that the team has less than zero depth
India and Stevenson will definitely help but yeah it is clear this team can’t overcome the loss of Winker, Suarez and Castellanos. It will get better but the year is over and beyond Barrero there are no position players in the minors ready to help so they can’t even dump the veterans to play for the future.
Here’s a telling stat–Jake Fraley leads the team in Runs scored with 5! And we haven’t seen hide nor hair of the guy in almost a week!
Very telling indeed.
The Reds’ six outfielders are hitting a combined .130 so far this year (24 hits in 185 ABs) with 61 strikeouts. Shogo would have fit right in!! He wants his job back!
Schedule doesn’t lighten up this week so might be able to stretch this losing streak to 17 with any luck, may as well go big. No Cards or Cubs fan to fill the stands so it will interesting to see how low attendance goes. Oh Bob, you need to spend money to make money, how will attendance of 500K this year help your wallet?
Don’t forget that the Reds didn’t want to make an offer for Castellanos but instead spent 17 million on Pham and Minor.
The Reds made Nick an offer of $18.4 million.
How does this get better? Castillo? India?
It is not just losing it is the fact that this team is lifeless. No energy
How would this team do at the AAA level? I am not sure I would keep anyone except India and Stephenson and I think I would put Stephenson at 1B when they face lefties. Votto no longer has the bat speed to face lefties. Solano should be at 3B and Barrero for better or worse at SS. Put Almora in CF for defense and have Senzil and Naquin platoon in RF. Hopkins should be brought up as well as Williamson and see if trade Mahle and Castillo for established hitters on the verge of being full time major league hitters including a 1B.
I would plead with Joey Votto to take on the role of player manager
How big a hole has the Reds dug for themselves? Let’s fantasize that the Reds run off a 17-game winning streak like the Cards last year (like that’ll happen) and that everyone else in the division continues to win at their current rate. Where would that leave the Reds? Only in 2nd place, tied with Milwaukee, and still 3 games behind St. Louis. This is a deep, deep hole to open the season. At this rate, they’ll eclipse the 1982 Reds as the worst team in Cincinnati history. Look out 62 Mets, here come the Reds.
In 1982 the Braves opened the season with 12 straight wins. the 12 win was against the Reds.
At least in 1982, they could pass out the free pennant flags which said “Best Record in MLB in 1981”.
For the younger folks, the 1981 season was interrupted by a players’ strike. At the time the strike started (mid June), the Reds were 1/2 game behind the Dodgers for the lead in the NL West (the Reds had a game in hand).
When the strike ended (mid August), a split season format was announced for the post season. The teams in 1st place when the strike started were named as divisional champs and awarded a spot in the post season which put the Dodgers in and left the Reds out.
In the “2nd half season” the Astros who had been a number of games behind the Dodgers and Reds in the 1st half came on to win the 2nd half but both the Dodgers and Astros ended up with worse overall season records than the Reds as did every other team in MLB.
So, it was true and accurate to say that the Reds while locked out of the playoffs by the split season format nevertheless had the best OVERALL record in MLB in 1981.
So the 1982 Reds went from best to worst record in MLB. That 1982 team with 101 losses had Bench, Concepcion, Driessen, Cedeno, Soto, Seaver, Liebrandt and Hume on it. Only Soto had a good year.
I remember that fiasco of determining the ’81 playoffs. Leave it to the suits in Manhattan to mess up baseball. They never seem to learn.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1379230-the-10-worst-mlb-teams-ever-to-win-the-world-series
Article could probably be found tacked to the Castellini brain trust office walls.