The Reds (65-57) open a 4 game series tonight at GABP versus the Miami Marlins (51-70). Game time is 7:10pm.

There is good news and bad news to report on the playoff front. The Reds are still just 1.5 games arears of the Padres and 2.5 games ahead of the Cardinals in the Wild Card chase. That’s the good news. The bad news is they are now 9.5 games behind the Brewers in the NL Central. But thank the Brewers for beating the Cardinals the last 2 nights to keep them behind the Reds.

Following 2 losses to the Cubs, it behooves the Reds to get the ship righted and back on course post haste starting tonight.

Starting Pitchers

Reds ace Luis Castillo will face off against righthander Nick Neidert for the Marlins

Luis Castillo

April and May went badly for Castillo; but, come June he found his groove. In 12 starts from June 4 through August 4, Castillo was a true ace. During this run, he allowed an ERA/FIP of  1.91/3.23 over 75.1 innings. After hitting a speed bump in his second August start  on the 9th, Castillo bounced back with a strong effort in his most recent start.

Reds fans well know Castillo’s key by now. When he throw strikes and controls his location within the strike zone, he is virtually unhittable. When misses locations within or out of the zone, he struggles.

By way of review, expect Castillo to throw his 97MPH 4 seam fastball about half the time.  His real money pitch is his 87MPH change up which he uses just less than a third of the time. It dives and often backs up like a screwball as it does. He fills out with 85MPH slider. This is his favorite to get righthand batters chasing out of the zone.

Nick Neidert

Nick Neidert, a not quite 25year old right hander, was a late announcement as the Marlins starting pitcher. Neidert was the #60 overall (2nd round) pick by Seattle  in the 2015 draft and subsequently traded to the Marlins in December of 2017. He will be making his 6th start tonight in his 7th MLB appearance of 2021. Neidert throws a 92MPH  4 seam fastball on about half of his pitches and an 85MPH slider on just less than a third of his offerings. He fills out with a change up and a curve. The change comprises about 14% of his offerings at around 84Mph and the curve about 9% at 74MPH.

Pitching Tale of The Tape

Luis Castillo 3.88 4.10 1.41 1.05 9.8% 23.0%
Nick Neidert 4.11 5.59 1.50 0.88 14.7% 14.7%

Reds need to jump all over that BB% of Neidert



Jeff Hoffman worked 2 innings (22 pitches) on Wednesday. Sean Doolittle and Justin Wilson each worked an inning. Hoffman threw 22 pitches on the heels of throwing 13 on Tuesday. Count him as unlikely tonight. Wilson added 18 pitches to the 5 he had thrown on Tuesday and is questionable. Doolittle threw just 10 pitches and should be available.


The Marlins used 5 relievers on Wednesday to cover 6 innings of work. 3 pitchers threw over 20 pitches each topping out with Luis Madero at 47.  Old friend former Red Dylan Floro has not worked since Sunday.

Starting Lineups

 Marlins lineup not yet released. Check here for the latest lineup information

      MARLINS           REDS
1. Miguel Rojas (SS)
2. Isan Diaz (2B)
3. Jesus Aguilar (1B)
4. Jesus Sanchez (RF)
5. Brian Anderson (3B)
6. Jorge Alfaro (LF)
7. Alex Jackson (C)
8. Bryan De La Cruz (CF)
9. Nick Neidert (P)
1. Jonathan India (2B)
2. Tyler Naquin (CF)
3. Nick Castellanos (RF)
4. Joey Votto (1B)
5. Tyler Stephenson (C)
6. Mike Moustakas (3B)
7. Kyle Farmer (SS)
8. Aristides Aquino (LF)
9. Luis Castillo (P)

News, Notes and Thoughts

New Prospect List!

Things are looking up in the Reds minor league system where Cincinnati has 4 prospects in the MLB Pipeline Top 100 list. As always Doug Gray has them covered at

Not so great news on Jesse Winker

This is not the news Reds fans had hoped to hear about Jesse Winker…. but it sounds like he’s going to be out longer than initially expected. We covered it, as well as an update on Tejay Antone and his return here.

Falling behind

Sad but true the Reds have fallen -9.5 games to the Brewers. Increasingly the Reds only true shot at the post season appears to be the second NL Wild Card position. Thus we give you:

National League Wild Card Standings

(Top 2 teams qualify for wild card play in)

Dodgers 75 46 .620 +9
Padres 67 56 .545
Reds 65 57 .533 1.5
Cardinals 61 58 .513 4
Phillies 61 59 .508 4.5
Mets 60 60 .500 5.5


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220 Responses

  1. 2020ball

    Wish Barrero was in there today, wondering if we’ll see im in the OF maybe this week. Whatever gets him playing time im all for it.

  2. Dennis Westrick

    After an extended session with my therapist today I am ready to re-enter The Twilight Zone! Better known as the Reds 2021 season! What happened the last 2 days is done and over! Focus on the task at hand today! As Al Davis, former owner of the Oakland Raiders would say, “Just Win Baby!” Be strong LC and Jobu, wherever you are, wake up the bats!

    • Mark Moore

      +500 and a bottle of fine Caribbean rum

    • Jim Walker

      Hey, I may need the name of your therapist. All day long the Marlins starting pitcher was officially listed as “TBD” but most sites assumed it was going to be Thompson going on his normal rest. Then the Marlins lineup dropped (late) and it was Neidert. So, I had to hold the “presses” and do some quick changing.

  3. Old-school

    Reds have reversed Nick Senzel option and put him back on the IL

    Fluid on the knee.

    Safe to say Winker and Senzel wont be playing in August for the Reds.

    Aquino and Shogo get their chance.

    Why not make Farmer the super sub and put Barrero at SS every day

    • RojoB

      Mystery solved

      Get healthy Nick Senzel.
      He should shut it down

      See you in 2022 maybe (I hope)

    • Old-school

      Senzel is going to Arizona to rehab on the IL. He’s on the MLB IL as the minor league assignment was reversed.

      Krall said he was trying to push through things when he wasnt well.
      Per C Trent

    • Jim Walker

      Agree this is good in that things are settled re: the activation and option but sorry to hear about the fluid. It is good to know the current management can work quietly and productively with Boras with neither side going publicly nuclear.

      Hoping for a quick and complete recovery and happy baseball future for Nick Senzel

    • Doc

      The guy everybody was hot to bring up and castigating management for not doing so. Imagine that. Maybe the FO has a clue after all!

  4. Jeffery Stroupe

    Bell managed the 1925 Yankees Lou Gehrig would never have replaced Puppy.

    • RojoB

      I’d be ok if Bell tried a puppy at third base at this point

      • Alan Horn

        Get Farmer over there and Barreo at SS. The bullpen is taking shape especially with Antone coming back next week. We have to quit playing around at 3B and seek our most productive lineup.

    • Melvin

      He probably doesn’t like the fact that Chris Sabo replaced his dad Buddy Bell at 3B, lol, although that was a different situation.

    • Doc

      Yes he would have since he would have been managing as things were done in 1920s, not the 2020s.

  5. Melvin

    Let’s just keep on pushing hard and win win win. As far as lineups go in my view the best thing to do would be to go with Naquin and AA full time with Casty of course in the outfield. Barerro needs to play SS and Farmer to 3B. That would leave Saurez and Moose as right and left handed power bats off the bench with Aki available for pinch running/defense. I’m afraid, gentlemen that Senzel is just not going to be at full strength the rest of the year. Knees need time to strengthen. Just ask Votto. It really wouldn’t be fair to him or the Reds to bring him up. If they do and he doesn’t play well that will just make it worse for both sides. There is no time to mess around. As many have said, “Put your best lineup on the field”. It’s crunch time.

    • Roger Garrett

      I agree but we will see more of Shogo,Suarez and Moose starting and that will not work.Farmer,Naquin and AA are just better and give us night after night a better chance to win as does Barrero.Its way over 30 mil setting but it is what it is and thats our best lineup.Need to get that 9th reliever out of here and get Shrock back up here or Lopez

  6. RojoB

    Jim your logic is solid in advising the hitting approach against the Marlins’ pitcher—be patient, make him work and he’ll walk you.

    Wanna bet on whether or no the Reds actually do that in this game?


  7. Rut

    So a crappy AAAA type pitcher, but not a lot of recent video on him?

    Hmm, sounds like just the guy the Reds make look like a Cy Young contender (looking at you Adrian Sampson).

    As for Senzel, rinse/wash/repeat. Stinks but the guy is apparently made of glass, difficult to play a major sport if you come with a “Fragile, do not touch” warning stamped on your forehead.

    • RojoB

      Not everyone recovers from knee surgery the same way. If Senzel tried to play through a knee effusion and ended up destroying his knee we’d all gripe about that too. It sounds like before the surgery he was playing with a knee that needed attention anyway—no credit for gutting it out through that?

      Joe Burrow’s recovery is a freakishly fast one. Trying to base everyone else’s on that is very unrealistic

      • Rut

        Sorry man, but this ain’t football and not basing my conclusion upon this single injury / recurrence of injury.

      • Indy Red Man

        I had to give up football around 13-14 because I kept getting fluid on my left knee. Its amazing Senzel had any hits at Lville if his knee was like mine. I had it drained 4 times. He just can’t catch a break. I think Inciarte makes the Sept roster now

      • JB

        IRM I think it will be Inciarte too IF Senzel isnt better.

  8. Mark A Verticchio

    Well I wanted Senzel to come up but he’s back on the injured list without playing a game at AAA. I think the team is growing impatient with him and, not to be mean, but I really can’t blame them. Boy in hindsight just think about all the possible trades they turned down in order to keep Senzel. Who know maybe someday he will stay healthy and develop into the player they thought he would be.

    • RojoB

      If they want to be impatient with folks how about the ones that supervised his rehab?

      You know, apparently the same ones that rushed Hunter Greene back from his first elbow injury, making it necessary for him to have surgery?

      An athlete wants to play. When the rehab staff gives a green light on an activity they need to make sure the athlete is good and ready. If they said he could play games and he plays games and subsequently has a complication, you want to blame the athlete?

      It’s really disappointing for sure, but when the player has done everything he’s been asked to do, let’s stop piling on as a way to express frustration

      • Old-school

        I’m a huge Senzel fan but it sounds like Senzel was pushing through and not listening to his body. Sonny Gray and Winker are examples of guys who stopped early when things weren’t right. Senzel- and I think Moose right now— and Schebler from years past are guys who arent hard wired to to use caution. They just keep going and tell the trainers I’m fine because they dont want to accept that things arent fine.

        Moose is 1-23. I hope hes fine and goes 3-4. But, he also could have a nagging injury and not be fine.

      • RojoB

        Hey I finally found the story in what happened and who knows what to think.

        Didn’t realize there are so many layers to this situation. No more comments to make

        I just hope the guy can get healthy for his own sake at this point.

  9. Old-school

    Diamondbacks swept the Phillies. They are 61-60 and go to SD for perhaps a wildcard elimination series for the Phillies.

    Reds gotta clean up on the marlins as the Padres and Phillies are tanking and now play each other and Brewers smacking the Cards.

    Wildcard is there for the taking.

  10. CI3J

    Senzel last played on May 18th, so it’s almost 3 months to the day he’s been out, and it looks like he just set himself back even further. Sad to say, but looks like another lost season for Nick. I know he’s got to be about ready to explode with frustration.

    • RojoB

      Wonder how many Cleveland fans blamed Tyler Naquin for his own injuries all the time?

      Look what he’s been able to piece together with a stretch of health—and Naquin had nowhere near the hitting talent of Senzel when drafted

  11. Joe P.

    Like to see some offense from Moose. If he doesn’t get a hit tonight, I’d consider anything, even trying Suarez again – although my preference would be a combo of Barrero and Farmer. Hopefully, Castillo is pitch efficient and pitches a gem.

    • Dennis Westrick

      Just don’t understand the current manager’s reluctance to move Farmer to 3rd. Yes, may lose some defense but Farmer has been a decent hitter for weeks! Better than Moose or Geno!

      • Melvin

        Not sure you would lose any defense. Might be the opposite.

      • Joe P.

        I don’t understand his reluctance either. The only thing I can think of is that maybe they want to preserve Barrero’s rookie status for next year or maybe it’s about the money they’re paying to Moose. Either way it would help the organization if Moose started pounding the baseball.

      • Alan Horn

        Definitely won’t lose defense. It will be better without Moose and at least the same without Suarez.

    • Alan Horn

      Barreo and Farmer is the combo they need to utilize.

  12. Dennis Westrick

    Reds WILL catch and PASS the Padres! My concern is the Dirty Birds! Hate to root for the Brewers but may be the safe choice for now!

    • Daytonnati

      As Indy has been telling us for days, the Brewers ship has sailed. Our ONLY hope is 2nd WC. So, the Dirty Birds, Phillies, and Padres are the comp right now ..

  13. Bet on Red

    ALright, so the Senzel question is answered and blame to Krall on that point is withdrawn. Reds have to take advantage of these games against poor teams.

  14. Ahimsa

    Say the Reds get the WC.

    Who would you use as the SP?

    • Joe P.

      I would use Castillo. As will the Reds.

    • Bet on Red

      Away its Miley hands down. Home I Go with Castillo

      • Arthur

        On the road? Easy call.

        Mahle, Tyler. Check out his numbers away from the Great American Smallpark. He’s among the best in all of baseball on the road. Although Castillo or Miley wouldn’t be bad choices if we have to go to LA.

        At home? Luis Castillo.

  15. Joe P.

    I wonder to what degree the hot humid weather wears on the Reds. When I think of the Brewers, I think of how they play half their games in a weather controlled environment and they probably don’t have any rain delays at home because they can eventually close the roof.

    • Dennis Westrick

      At least for tonight I hope it is hot and humid in Cincy! LC generally performs better in weather similar to his native country of the Dominican Republic!

    • Melvin

      That’s a good question. I’ve believed for a while now that every new stadium in the future should have at least a retractable roof especially since the season seams to start earlier in March and later in November not to mention the weather factors as you mentioned.

  16. Mark Moore

    Time to squish the Fish!!

    Early and often, guys. Just like old school Chicago voting.

  17. Bet on Red

    That was the worst Luck hit this season.

  18. Mark Moore

    Nice, quick throw by TySteve. Negates that slow chopper of a base hit.

  19. Roger Garrett

    Cubs and Marlins play with house money.We need to go all out as well.They will not roll over.Reds need to play every game and manage every game the same.Win today and worry about tomorrow when it comes.Forty games left and no room to play for tomorrow today.

  20. JB

    So now that Senzels option to AAA has been withdrawn does that mean if he comes off IL in September he is eligible for post season?

  21. Indy Red Man

    Pitch middle-away there….Nick was smashing those the other way on the way to .350. Now its 6-4-3 atleast once a day now(((

    • Roger Garrett

      Reds are trying to pull every thing.Naquin goes up the middle for a hit and others need to pay attention.

  22. Roger Garrett

    So much for making the pitcher work.Can’t wait to get back to the dugout.Luis barely set down.Do we have a plan at the plate?

    • Mark Moore

      No, it would appear we don’t. At least not one that includes being patient and working the count.

  23. Mark A Verticchio

    To many double play balls lately. A lot in the first inning.

  24. Mark Moore

    So far, it would appear the Fish consulted with the Stupid Cubs … that has to change. I know it’s early, but …

  25. Mark Moore

    And tell us again why it isn’t Farmer and Barrero over on the left side? And I realize it was a very bad hop.

    • Mark Moore

      Just saying Moose still doesn’t look quite right.

      Nice glove by LC to help his own cause.

    • Bet on Red

      what I can think is this. I dont remember the last time farmer played third. As far as Barreros, I know that he had multiple error games when they tried him there in Louisville

  26. Mark A Verticchio

    That was an error. Moose is hurting this team in more ways then one.

    • Mark Moore

      He’s not the GG Moose of old and he doesn’t look close to 100% either.

  27. Roger Garrett

    We see it and know it just like we know about Suarez but we aren’t calling the shots.Both are average at best on defense and unless they hit they aren’t going to help us.

  28. Mark A Verticchio

    This team is making a lot of soft contact off average pitcher, they may be tired.

    • Roger Garrett

      Take a pitch or two for goodness sakes.They are home,cut back on the work outs,stay in bed longer or something if they are tired.

  29. Roger Garrett

    Seven pitches and 3 outs.We as a team do not have a plan at the plate.Luis justs need to coach first when we bat cause he doesn’t get to set down and then he won’t have so far to walk.

    • RojoB

      They should be listening to Jim Walker

  30. Mark A Verticchio

    This is starting to look like the 2020 offense, which isn’t good news.

    • Mark Moore

      The playoff version of the offense … which isn’t good news at all

  31. Mark Moore

    Clean inning and a quick pace so far. Time to wake up Jobu (and Dennis) for some crooked numbers.

    • Joe P.

      At one point there, I thought they pumped laughing gas into the studio. Sadak and Larkin were laughing like 2 giddy schoolgirls – about what I have no idea.

  32. votto4life

    The Great Carnac

    Answer : Eugenio Suarez

    Question: Who should you start at 3B when your only options are Eugenio Suarez and Michael Moustakas ?

    • Mark Moore

      That’s very sad … and more than a little true

    • 2020ball

      Suarez looks like the better choice right now. Farmer/Barrero is the correct choice though as already mentioned.

  33. Mark Moore

    Well, he hit is the other way …

  34. Roger Garrett

    Terrible at bats just terrible.They are not even competing.Finally Suarez sets for the 3rd straight game and the rest of the team starts swinging like him.

    • Arthur

      I know some guys like to place wagers on baseball. How about this: what are the odds that Moose ends up sliding his batting average below Suarez by year end??

      I agree with other posters here – the man clearly isn’t right physically. He is a shell of his former self, and his plunging average backs that up. In the lat week, he hasn’t even sniffed a hit.

      • RojoB

        I wonder if Krall is letting Moustakas play because “he deemed himself healthy”?

      • Indy Red Man

        Larkin said its a timing thing yesterday….opening up too soon and not using his legs. I’d give it another week

      • Jim Walker

        @IRM> We almost certainly know why he isn’t using his legs. Whatever he might be telling folks, they must know too. How long do they let it ride like this

  35. Indy Red Man

    This is the Reds team I remember from the last 20 years. 14 in one game and 14 for the next week.

  36. Dennis Westrick

    So where have the Marlins been hiding this Cy Young candidate! Seriously! 28 pitches thru 3 innings? And, only 1 hit allowed?

  37. Dennis Westrick

    Walks, walks, walks! How can you walk a batter on 4 straight pitches after striking out the first 2 batters of the inning?

    • Indy Red Man

      Looked it up just for you Dennis. Reds have allowed the most walks in mlb. Didn’t know that? You were right and I’ve been wrong.

      Reds 494 walks

      31st = Cards with 477 walks

      • Indy Red Man

        Reds have drawn 430 walks (9th in mlb)

  38. Mark Moore

    Burned by the shift and it cost a run. K-R-A-P-P!!!

    • Joe P.

      I felt that hit coming. Alfaro looked confident getting into the box and Castillo looked tentative after the walk. Actually, I was surprised that the runner from first didn’t also score after the free pass, given the way things have been going.

  39. Indy Red Man

    Sometimes I wonder if the Reds need a large crowd to get their blood going? 2-1 in Philly. 6-1 in Milwaukee. 3-1 last trip to Wrigley. 4-0 in St. Louis. Maybe Bell just doesn’t them ready to play with 18k at home or whatever?

    Crazy that they can hit Wheeler and Nola, but can’t hit these scrubs?

    • RojoB

      Me and Clete are getting outta here fellow fans! How they pull it off. Last one I cleted they won 11-3 so here’s hoping

      Better for me mental health lol

  40. Indy Red Man

    Slow funky windup. India could steal 3rd easy if he guessed right on a breaking ball. Votto takes care of a fastball himself hopefully. Sometimes you have to take some chances to get the wheel rolling

  41. Bet on Red

    BUT BUT BUT ROJOB Cleted at the wrong moment

      • RojoB

        I did it for you all. It worked like a charm. The win is what counts.

        (posted at 11:07 PM)

  42. Mark Moore

    That’s the way to do it Joey!!

  43. Mark A Verticchio

    Big hit, let’s get more.

    • Steve

      Moose, something has to be fundamentally wrong right now with his swing, I haven’t seen so many pop-ups from a very good mlb player.

  44. Mark Moore

    Now the real Nick Niedert is showing up … thank you very much!

    • Bet on Red

      i never complain through the first go through on any pitcher from the other divisions. Reds havent seen them for Two years

      • Mark Moore

        And no or limited video to go on either.

      • 2020ball

        I’m not sure they even knew who the pitcher was today until late

  45. Indy Red Man

    Freddy Peralta IL w/shoulder. Might be serious or season ending? We need 2 of 3 in Milw and that might help.

  46. Mark A Verticchio

    Moose is an automatic out, play Barrero. Good job Farmer, keep it up.

  47. Mark Moore

    That’s using all of the opposite field … Way to go Farmer!

  48. Arthur

    Moose is looking like a good bet to drop below the Mendoza line before the end of this series.

    I will say it again – it isn’t as if he is getting robbed or hitting into bad luck. He isn’t even coming close to hitting a ball hard. To play him over Barrero is mind-numbing.

    • Indy Red Man

      1 for last 27. They need to IL him again and check him out.

      • Mark Moore

        Bring up Schrock (so he can sit)

      • 2020ball

        Was really hoping he’d come back and be semi-useful, he’s looked awful when I’ve seen him.

        They dont have room to bring up Shrock without someone hitting the IL, so thats not an option. Best plan would be to give Barrero more playing time.

  49. RedsMonk65

    Had to step away and just came back….Someone woke up the Reds’ bats! Good deal. Keep rolling.

  50. RedAlert

    Moustakas nor Suarez can hit a lick ! Third base slot is killing this team on a nightly
    basis and Bell continues to run those 2 out there making ZERO adjustments .
    INEXCUSABLE – no other manager in MLB would continuously do that . Little league , bush league manager . Makes no common sense decisions .

      • Mark A Moore

        Meant that for the comment above.

        I agree if we’re not playing for game #163 we need to hit on all cylinders.

  51. Gpod

    if Moose can’t get something going this series, then you gotta move on at 3rd base. There is not enough time in the season to wait it out & hope he comes around….this isn’t may or june. You’re doing nothing to help this team win the wildcard by poor at bat after poor at bat.

  52. Bet on Red

    Miami Valley Gaming advertising department needs to be DFA’d

    • Votto4life

      I agree. I’m not sure what they are going with the odd middle aged woman and her lucky buckeyes.

      I’m not very fond of the Laura Lean commercials with Marty B. and his wife either.

      I am OK with the Elk and Elk commercials though. The lawyer with the worst Tupee ever cracks me up.

      • Bet on Red

        I am out of state so I dont get the second or third ones.

  53. DataDumpster

    Outside the flow of the game, but i want to complement Jim for giving us the only real thing that matters at this point; GB or ahead for the 2nd WC position. Hope the other writers adopt this until the situation demands otherwise; the fan graphs and other prognosticators observations are garbage.

    • Mark Moore

      I tend to agree. I’m not fond of a Game 163, but let’s press toward that knowing full well it means a trip West (and then staying West if we win).

    • Jim Walker

      Thank you. I guess that is the hockey fan in me. I look for “the bar” in the cumulative conference standings to see if my team is in or out then if they are in, I look at the divisional standings for seedings. But it is a little different because everyone above the bar gets a best of 7 series.

  54. Mark A Verticchio

    I think they should bring up Inciarte, great glove in center and move Naquin to left. Then move farmer to third and Barrero to short, much better team. Bell and the front office would never think like that. Face facts Winker is gone for a while.

    • RedAlert

      I’m with you on that idea Mark … but agree with you . Bell /front office incapable of taking that kind of initiative . Gotta make sure everybody plays and no feelings hurt.

    • 2020ball

      Who are you replacing on the roster?

      • Alan Horn

        Injuries need to occur even if you have to hit them on the toe with a bat.

    • Alan Horn

      Agree. Can rotate Inciatre, AA and Akiyama.

  55. Joe P.

    Should have had Naquin bunt there. Try to bunt for a hit and if they throw him out, India gets to 2nd anyway with a sacrifice bunt. Up 4-1, Castellanos and Votto coming up. Pitcher not throwing hard, that situation screamed bunt.

    Instead Naquin hits into to a double play.

  56. Mark A Verticchio

    I agree try and play add on, not in Bells DNA.

    • wkuchad

      What does that even mean Mark? Again, the anti-Bell comments are beyond ridiculous.

  57. Mark Moore

    78 pitches through 6 and looking plenty strong. Let’s back LC up with some crooked numbers.

  58. RedAlert

    Sadak comedy hour …. this guy is brutal


    • Mark Moore

      We’re watching Holey Moley with my remote daughter, so I’m just watching the game with no sound. Sadak never sounded better to me.

    • Joe P.

      Sometimes I think he gets paid by the word.

    • wkuchad

      I don’t hate Sadak as much as most on this site, but I honestly liked Thom better.

      I actually thought Welch/Thom was a good duo.

      • Jim Walker

        Chris could make anybody who had the sense to stay out of his way sound good

  59. Mark A Verticchio

    Please pinch hit for Moose, even Suarez.

    • Arthur

      Fun fact – Suarez for his career is 1-24 as a pinch hitter.

      Another thing he isn’t doing well.

  60. Votto4life

    Joey has 27 Home Runs and 79 RBIs. What are the chances he can finish the season with 30 or more home runs and 100 or more RBIs ?

    • Chris Holbert

      They said he was on track for 35 and 104

    • JB

      He will get 30 at least. Who out of us all thought he would do that again.

      • Chris Holbert

        He even missed a month or so…

      • 2020ball

        It doesn’t surprise me given his EVs since he changed his stance/approach, but I definitely didnt expect this kind of year.

  61. Mark A Verticchio

    For the Reds to have any chance the rest of the way he better.

  62. Mark A Verticchio

    Get the pen up Bell now.

  63. Indy Red Man

    Bell never seems to have Castillo finish with a zero? The guy with the zero era should’ve already been warming up

  64. Bet on Red

    its close but i can see that overturned

    • Mark Moore

      Could have gone either way, but we have to take the outcome.

    • 2020ball

      Blown call by the umpire, and they’re just going to use that as a tiebreaker. Looked like he saw Votto swipe with his foot at the end and changed his call even though he initially he had him out.

      • Mark Moore

        That I didn’t see. If that’s the case, it should have been overturned. Overall, challenging and winning is something our Reds coaching staff does well (or at least that’s what I’ve seen).

  65. Mark Moore

    Very close call. Not enough to overturn either way.

    • JB

      Agree. Only if there was a better camera angle

      • Mark Moore

        Right. They needed one more pretty much right down the line.

    • Jim Walker

      Agree completely that the call was going to stand as called on the field either way because they didn’t have a down the line camera.

      I think Votto may have actually inadvertently called the play for the ump. The ump looked like he was on the fence maybe leaning toward out. That’s about when JV took the swipe at the corner of the base with his toe and clearly missed. I can imagine an ump who wasn’t quite sure then deciding if the 1B was uncertain enough he was on to reach back with his toe, then the guy was safe.

  66. Indy Red Man

    Nice job by Luis!! Helps that Miami didn’t start Chisholm or Brinson. Scary team because they have some arms and some talent. Alcantara hits 100 with a 92-93 mph changeup and slider. Rogers probably 2nd to India NL roy.

  67. Arthur

    Now that the half inning is finished, would you push Lorenzen back to pitch the 9th now??

    Heck – maybe Reds score a few in the bottom of 7 or 8 and there is no save situation. Maybe get by with saving the Big Man for tomorrow.

    • wkuchad

      How long as it been for Lorenzen and Givens? I’d maybe pitch them one inning each tonight to get them a little work.

  68. Mark Moore

    First pitch and a stand-up double. I like a start to an inning like that.

    Come on Jose!!! Show Jobu who’s the boss.

  69. Roger Garrett

    It worked but Bell has no feel for the game.Why let Luis at over 90+ pitches not once but twice face the tieing run in the 7th inning of a really really important game.Its playing with fire and its not necessary cause our pen is better now.

    • 2020ball

      Why go to the bullpen if its your ace pitching and he’s around 100 pitches? He wasn’t in stressful situations all game and would’ve been out of the inning if not for bad umpiring. I leave him in right there every time. Maybe I pull him if he gives a up run there, but definitely not before.

      • jazzmanbbfan

        I agree 2020. I think Castillo still had enough in the tank and my belief in the bullpen is practically nonexistent.

    • wkuchad

      These anti-Bell posts are so laughable at this point.

      I mean, there’s stuff to criticize (such as wanting Barrero to start tonight), but most of these anti-Bell posts make no sense.

      • 2020ball

        I didn’t even mention the double switch you’d have to make if you bring in a guy and want him the next inning too, but its another example of things that I dont see guys consider around here. Everyone can say such-and-such is a better guy there, but bringing guys in (or calling a guy up if its a roster move) results in someone else coming out and I rarely see much thought given to it.

      • 2020ball

        In fact, this is probably why Bell had Lorenzen up there, since he could just bat him if needed.

    • Arthur

      Bullpen better? Yes

      Bullpen good? No

      Castillo after 90 pitches is still better than anyone coming out of the pen, except maybe Lorenzen.

      Castillo is the ace of this staff. Bell just had him do what aces do – Get themselves out of trouble.

      • Alan Horn

        BP is headed toward good. Especially when Antone gets back around next Tuesday. No lefties but sometimes that is overplayed(especially by Bell who over manages too often).

  70. Mark Moore

    Okay, RoY … it’s up to you now.

    • Joe P.

      India did a great job of shrinking his strike zone with 2 strikes. Very subtle approach. A lot of fans wouldn’t notice. He adopted more of a crouch in his stance, shrunk his strike zone, and honed in on a smaller window. That pitch was in that zone and India nailed it with a nice swing.

  71. 2020ball

    Berrero for sure looks more confident at the plate than last year. Good AB even if the result is a pop-up.

    • Mark Moore

      That one he turned on a little too much got SMACKED

      • 2020ball

        Yup and he barely missed the next pitch up in the zone, barreled it but fouled it straight back.

  72. Mark A Verticchio

    Garrett up in bull pen, I am not sure I like that.

    • Bet on Red

      he won’t give up 5 runs with 3 batters so if he can eat some outs I am with it.

    • 2020ball2

      His current role is to fill innings in games we’re winning or losing by a lot. You can’t use our top guys every game or they wont be available for the close games or will just get injured eventually (i.e. whats been happening all year).

  73. Old-school

    Reds needed this one and Castillo and Votto and India continue their 2nd half excellence

    • Old-school

      Add lorenzen to 2nd half excellence list

      • wkuchad

        Understatement of the year: Lorenzen was missed in the first half.

      • Indy Red Man

        OS if you’re going to stick me with JVM then you have to remember when I was about the only Lorenzen defender on RLN.

        Most of RLN was all over him for about 2 years? Getting so musclebound made him an easy target I guess. Somewhat deserved, but the arm talent was always there. Simple mental adjustment to quit trying to K everyone and just attack the zone and make them hit you

      • Arthur

        Lorenzen pitching great this year.

        So – he comes to the Reds during the off-season and says “I want to be a starter.”

        What is the correct response???

      • wkuchad

        We have way too many stater options for next year. I’d love to re-sign Lorenzen, but only as a high leverage relief pitcher.

      • Old-school

        Lorenzen gave interview this week and said he used to think to improve he needed to add pitches or be different. He said I was wrong. I needed to get better at the pitches im Already good at .

        He adjusted
        Votto adjusted
        Suarez said im fine in may and look at my stats end of year. Hes not adjusting

        Kudos to Lorenzen

        Hes a competitor who isnt afraid to make adjustments to succeed

        Id sign him and Givens for market comp

  74. Mark Moore

    Mikey Biceps hands Diaz his Golden Sombrero!!

  75. 2020ball

    Good win boys, 1/4 of the way towards a sweep

  76. RedsMonk65

    Great to win, of course, but I especially appreciate the lack of drama in the late innings.

  77. Bet on Red

    ALright, way to get the win. Joey Votto still Bangs. With the win we can swallow our pride and root for STL to beat MIL

  78. Roger Garrett

    Mikey and Tony with back to back 3 up 3 down innings and this one belongs to the Reds.No late drama for a change other then the 7th,Reds add on in the 8th and its over.

  79. Mark Moore

    +1,000 for the “no drama” win