The Cincinnati Reds (63-54) continue their push towards the playoffs as they meet the Philadelphia Phillies (60-56) in the second game of the weekend series in Philadelphia. The Reds gained back a game on the San Diego Padres last night and are currently 2.5 games out of the second wild card spot. The Phillies, also fighting for a playoff spot, are tied for first place with the Atlanta Braves in the NL East.


  • Time: 4:05 ET
  • Place: Citizens Bank Park, Philadelphia, PA
  • Weather: 89 degrees; partly sunny and humid with a possibility of thunderstorms 
  • TV: Bally Sports Ohio; Fox Sports 1
  • Radio: 700 WLW

Starting Pitchers

Luis Castillo 131.0 4.53 3.98 4.13 3.92 1.43 22.7% 10.0%
Matt Moore 50.1 6.79 5.26 6.00 5.19 1.63 18.5% 9.4%


This afternoon, Luis Castillo will try to rebound from his poor start on Monday against the Cleveland Indians where he gave up eight runs in 3.1 innings. Before that start, Castillo had actually been pitching pretty well, given how his season had started in April, and had reduced his ERA to a respectable 4.22. In June, he allowed only six earned runs, including just one home run, in 31.2 innings; in July, he allowed only nine runs in 37.2 innings.

August started off well with Castillo pitching six innings of one-run baseball with seven strikeouts against the Twins, and then the game against the Indians happened. Castillo has had to bounce back from terrible starts already this season. Let’s hope he can do that again this afternoon.

Castillo’s slider is still one of the best, and he has had similar whiff rates on that pitch from a year ago (right around 42 percent). However, it’s his change up and four-seam fastball that he hasn’t been able to figure out. His whiff rates are down to about 30 percent for both pitches, compared to 37-40 percent a year ago. He’s also given up more home runs off those pitches this season than in the past.


Left-hander Matt Moore is not having a good season with the Phillies, and he hasn’t had much success in the last few years bouncing around from the San Francisco Giants to the Texas Rangers and Detroit Tigers before landing in Philadelphia this season.

Moore has started nine of the 17 games he’s appeared in 2021 and has given up 38 earned runs in 50.1 innings, including 12 home runs. He’s below the 50th percentile in the league for nearly every Statcast category. It’s a far cry from his years with the Tampa Bay Rays in 2012-2013 where he pitched 150 innings, put up sub-4.00 ERAs, and made an All-Star appearance in 2013.

Moore throws four pitches, but really just throws the four-seam fastball most of the time with a few change ups and curve balls mixed in there. He’s not a hard-throwing pitcher, with his fastball averaging 92.2 mph this season and his change up and curve ball averaging in the low-80s. Moore does have a whiff rate of 37.3 percent with his change up, but that’s the only pitch in which he’s really gotten batters to swing and miss.


Cincinnati Reds

Philadelphia Phillies

2B Jonathan India 2B Jean Segura
SS Kyle Farmer C J.T. Realmuto
RF Nick Castellanos RF Bryce Harper
1B Joey Votto SS Didi Gregorius
C Tyler Stephenson LF Andrew McCutchen
3B Eugenio Suárez 1B Brad Miller
LF Aristides Aquino 3B Ronald Torreyes
CF Tyler Naquin CF Odubel Herrera
P Luis Castillo P Matt Moore

-Jesse Winker is out of the lineup again today. It appears to be precautionary.

-The Joey Votto hit watch continues. After last night’s home run, Votto is just two hits shy of 2,000. He could very well break that milestone today.

News and Notes

Speaking of Joey Votto, if you’re not appreciating what he is doing right now with the bat, I don’t know how to help you. My advice is to just sit back and enjoy.

The Louisville Bats had an excellent game last night. Check out the recap of that one and the other games in the Reds minor league system here.

And speaking of the Louisville Bats, Nick Senzel is currently on a rehab assignment with them and had two extra-base hits last night.

Finally, in case you missed it, here’s story about Jose Barrero’s monster season in Triple-A and if now is the time for the Reds to bring him to the big-league club.

256 Responses

  1. Klugo

    The good ones never (okay, rarely) have two bad ones in a row.

    Shogo just keeps getting disrespected, imo.

    • docproc

      Naquin has had two hits in each of the last three games.

  2. Mark Moore

    I’m wearing my “Respect Cincinnati” shirt today in an attempt to send some mojo up to Philly and especially LC. Let’s nail this down today so tomorrow is a gravy win (and then win that as well). We are largely in charge of our own destiny for the next few weeks. Let’s pour it on and see what happens when a few more of the IL guys come back.

  3. Dennis Westrick

    LC always makes me nervous but here’s hoping he returns to form (good) today! Go Reds! Score early & often! Crooked numbers are a beautiful thing!

    • Mark Moore

      Hot and humid there today, so that should help.

  4. Dennis Westrick

    Reds vs Phillies game is actually on TV here in Central Florida this afternoon on Fox Sports Network (FS1). All we ever get down here are games featuring the Yankees or Dodgers, 2 teams I despise!

    • Jim t

      Dennis I lived in Cocoa Beach for 7 years. You close by there?

  5. west larry

    Really? They are using as few lefty bats as possible this game, so it was either Shogo or Naquin in cf. Naquin has been hot hately, has more power, and is not quite as good as Shogo defensively… I like Shogo, but can’t dispute starting Naquin over him. Maybe he’ll get in as a defensive replacement later in the game.

    • west larry

      Supposed to be a response to Klugo.

  6. Jim Walker

    Just announced that Alejo Lopez has been elevated to Taxi Squad status. Presumably, this is to have him on site should someone (Winker) need to be placed on IL.

    • RedsGettingBetter

      This season has been very tough to Reds (and the other teams overall) for staying completely healthy and keeps all the key players in the line-up consistently, almost always someone is missing…

  7. Bet on Red

    Looks like an over sort of day. Reds need to keep this train running. WIn the series and set up the sweep

  8. JA

    Tomorrow’s game begins today. I mean, if Reds LU succeeds ealrly on the game, that’d force phillies to bring their BP sooner, then deplete their options to support Aaron Nola vs S Gray.

  9. RedsGettingBetter

    I hope the cubs win at least one game against Miami so they stop the losing streak before facing the Reds. It is just statistical… IMO the Cubbies could be more pesky if reach the series vs Reds after losing 11 in a row

  10. wkuchad

    Anyone know when Senzel’s rehab stint must conclude? It’s capped, but not sure how long. Was curious if before or after 9/1?

  11. Jim Walker

    Found on the Enquirer that Senzel started the rehab on July 30. So, he is out of time soon. Believe it is 20 days for position players. So maybe as soon as mid-week.

    They can recall him without reactivating him or they could option him so he could keep playing at AAA. Recall that they need both a 40 man roster and a 26 man roster move (or one move which accomplishes both) to bring him back to MLB active status because he is on the 60 day IL. I am not sure whether they have to get him back on the 40 man to option him (sort of follows that they would).

    • Doug Gray

      Yes, they would need to activate him to option him to the minors.

  12. Arthur

    It sure seems like the Reds have a big advantage today based solely on the starting pitchers.

    I sure hope we see The Castillo of June and July this afternoon, and the offense scores early to make things easy for Castillo. If we get a nice big lead, maybe we can see Doolittle to close it out.

  13. LDS

    Sure glad they activated Moustakas who has hit lefties better than Suarez. Suarez, like Bell, will be a thorn in the fans’ sides for several more years. BTW, Naquin is hitting .200 against LH’ers, Akiyama .286 (although small sample). After beating Wheeler last night, I almost expect them to blow it today. Seems to be the pattern.

  14. beelicker

    Aquino should get more LF time anyway vs thanks to Winker’s .176/.288/.284 split vs LHP. Votto credits Naquin beating out that grounder back of first last night with firing up the whole team and he really has been quite productive recently. Shogo in a small sample is also even getting on base vs LHP far better than vs right. Competition is good

  15. Rex

    wow Geno has quietly brought his average up to 175…look out

  16. Bet on Red

    dont look now but the pirates picked a day to show up

    • beelicker

      Now a double play with bases loaded, darn. This is 1st of 2 7-inning games so maybe they can hold on? That inning knocked out Milwaukee’s starter for some no ERA newbie

  17. Mark Moore

    Fangraphs currently has us with a 34.4% overall post-season chance. 29.9% of that is for the wild card. Even managing to creep closer to 1% chance of winning the World Series.

    Let’s pile it on today and tomorrow, then go home and smack around the very depleted Stupid Cubs.

    • Mark Moore

      The Bernies are the only team right now overwhelmingly favored to win their NL division. Everybody else is around 50/50 or less.

  18. Mark Moore

    At least Jim Day’s mic is working properly today. Kept thinking he was in a protective bubble yesterday.

  19. Mark Moore

    Not a great start for the HP ump. Here’s hoping that mile wide zone works both ways.

    • Arthur

      101 mph cheese from Castillo to whiff Realmuto, a pretty good hitter.

      I hope that bodes well for Mr Castillo.

  20. Bet on Red

    Castillo out here in the 101st Airborne

  21. LGR

    Wonder if that gun is correct. Don’t remember ever see him hitting 101, let alone in the first inning.

    • Mark Moore

      Sadak and Welsh seemed more than a little surprised. And the “easy gas” description matches what I saw.

      We can only hope a warm, humid August day plays to his favor. Now for some crooked number manufacturing. Employee #19 about to clock in.

      • LGR

        101 with that movement should be almost impossible to hit on the barrel.

  22. Mark Moore

    Nice work by LC. Afraid he was going to get squeezed, but he dialed it in.

  23. Arthur

    Am I the only one who wants to see Hunter Greene called up just to see what his 104 mph heater can do to major league hitters?? I think that’s faster than pretty much anyone in MLB, isn’t it?

    • Mark Moore

      Yes and no. He’s on a very strict limit and to have him for a couple of games probably doesn’t help and it might put him off track.

  24. Dennis Westrick

    Why is it that this Reds team can beat the former Cy Young pitchers and current Cy Young candidates (Wheeler) but struggle against run-of-the-mill pitchers with ERAs of 5 or 6+?

    • LGR

      It’s.. the 2nd inning. They didn’t get to Wheeler until the 2nd time around yesterday.

  25. Melvin

    I agree with Ashley about Votto by the way. If we can’t enjoy and appreciate that then we’re in trouble as a Reds fan.

    • Mark Moore

      It’s a little bit of pure, sweet magic to watch right now. and it lifts everybody around him. The “pouty face” yesterday was hilarious.

      • Melvin

        His face to Suarez when he saved him an error was even more hilarious.

  26. Dennis Westrick

    You are correct! Just impatient! Want an early lead to reduce the pressure on LC to be perfect!

    • Mark Moore

      Same. At least we put wood on the ball this inning.

  27. Mark Moore

    Nice turn there, but he definitely was safe. Like by at least half a step.

  28. JB

    For Godsakes umpires freakin rot. How can you miss that call at first?

  29. Bet on Red

    Suarez embarrassing himself on national tv today

  30. Dennis Westrick

    Call the FBI! Some team posing as the Pirates up 9-4 over the Brewers!

    • LGR

      12-4 now. Not sure what’s going on there.

      • Melvin

        The Brewers are in shock. We need to take heed as to what can happen for the rest of the games we play em. I really believe we can win out.

  31. LGR

    There’s the Geno we’ve all grown to love.

    • Arthur

      His ABs presently look just like those in April. He doesn’t seem to have done anything to try to improve his hitting.

      And he is still trying to pull breaking balls low and outside – which is the easiest 6-4-3 in all of baseball.

      If baseball is a game of adjustments, why hasn’t this guy been able to make any adjustments to address a .170 batting average?

      • LGR

        His stance is.. a tad different from the start of the year. The best thing Bell can do for him right now, is if he’s going to play him, let him hit in front of the pitcher. Bell did it once I think and Suarez had a pretty solid game in the 8 hole. He’d get less pitches to hit which, for him, is a GOOD thing. He’ll walk more to turn the lineup over and if the pitcher misses badly, he still has his solo home run potential. It’s a win win.

      • beelicker

        He hit .13o for April so it’s been somewhat above .17o since … .186 May and .2oo June without looking it up. The early anchor weights the perception

  32. Dennis Westrick

    Sir StrandsALot reporting for duty!

  33. LGR

    His stuff is kinda disgusting right now. No no incoming?

    • Mark Moore

      Maybe … but we don’t want to jinx anything

  34. RiverCity Redleg

    Suarez will do one of two things; man in first, DP or all other scenarios, strike out.

  35. Bet on Red

    Castillo showed up to play today.

  36. Melvin

    AA hitting a lot more line drives hard these days. A very good sign.

    • Mark Moore

      Hit balls provide opportunities that whiffing does not. Vlad saw that. Mahle saw that.

  37. Votto4life

    Pirates now beating Brewers 12-4

    • Dennis Westrick

      What’s next? An Alien Invasion?

      • Mark Moore

        Perhaps … wouldn’t surprise me, though what intelligent life would want to come to this planet in 2021?

      • Bet on Red

        probebly to sort things out again…lol

  38. Indy Red Man

    Lets go boys!! Moore sucks, but sometimes we start a little slow. They should start doing some damage!

  39. Mark Moore

    We’re playing from behind … that’s been a good thing for us. Moore is an “also was at one point”. We need to lay off his garbage pitches and be more patient. Mr. India is in need of some minor adjustments here (which we all know he can make).

  40. Bet on Red

    Time for me to Jinx Moores no-hitter attempt.

      • Bet on Red

        Moore throwing a no hitter through 5…. there done

  41. Hanawi

    Sometimes seems like the soft-tossing lefties have been the Achilles heel of the Reds for about 10 years now. Probably not the case in reality, but sure feels like it.

    • Indy Red Man

      He’s hitting 94 on us. Its just lefties vs this team. Degrade Joey/Winker/Naquin and Geno isn’t hitting anyone.

      I’d take my chances with Barrero over Geno. Confidence and foot speed on the bases. Maybe Geno saves the day, but I doubt it. He used to be a lefty enforcer, but now since he pulls off the ball so hard and lefties work away….he’s even worse vs lefties.

      • Mark Moore

        The constant “must pull” is what annoys me the most. And we’ve all seen what he can do if he goes with a pitch the other way.

      • beelicker

        Geno also nauled the hardest hit ball off him yet, just pulled right at third baseman

    • beelicker

      No, it’s a real thing … all kinds of junk at variable speeds and the left handed batter preference for fastballs to hit. Guy like this throws a tepid fastball but keeps ‘his pitch’ FBs down and out of the zone. They had him at 55 pitches same as Castillo going to the 5th … hitter impatience also works in his favor. They need to make him run up his pitch count but that means early fastballs = strikes. If he’s got command to spots it’s rough, keeps hitters constantly off balance with bad swings like that one. Castillo should try to keep fouling him off run up his pitch count get him out of there. That India was in a situation where 2 out HR is a desired outcome there works totally in pitcher’s favor

  42. Mark A Verticchio

    Batters seem to be sleep walking through this one, time to wake up.

  43. RedsGettingBetter

    Moore who is a pitcher with very bad numbers suddenly becomes Cy Matt Moore Young. How can we explain this?

    • Indy Red Man

      Every dog has its day. He’s mixing his pitches up. He’s about like a lefty Matt Harvey. He was very highly regarded at one time, but that time was like 2014

      • Mark Moore

        He arrived in TB at age 22 as a projected ace. Japan last year.

      • RedsGettingBetter

        Yes I know Moore was good a long time ago, but he is gonna get his 2014 shape just today after having 6+ ERA and 1,6 Whip just saying 2 stats? Hopefully the Reds will figure him out in next frames…

  44. Mark Moore

    That was a tough luck out for Geno. He ripped that one.

    • Bet on Red

      he did, not going to knock the closest to the first hit of the ball game during a no hitter that I am trying to Jinx

  45. Dennis Westrick

    14-4 Pirates! Time to rally!

  46. Indy Red Man

    Didn’t read it, but saw a headline yesterday about a study showing non-white players get more bad calls from the home plate umps. I believe its true with Aquino anyway.
    I’ve seen like 5 guys get a ball called when Moore comes too far inside, but the 1-1 to Aquino is called a strike of course! He gets put in bad counts all the time on bs calls.

    • Bet on Red

      saw the article too… a study over a series of seasons found a .3% more favorable calls when the umpire and the batter are of the same ethnicity.

    • Mark Moore

      You’d have to see all the breakdown on those stats including the who the umpire was as well. I know many of us here have carped on the bad zone and calls. A big part of it is how invested in this team I feel right now, so anything that “goes against us” hits at least a minor nerve, especially in a very close game.

    • LDS

      .3%? That’s not bias. That’s noise.

  47. Dennis Westrick

    Fresh incense and more Rum for Jobu!

    • Mark Moore

      And firecrackers … don’t forget the firecrackers.

      Nice efficient inning by LC. Keeping him in the game for 7+ would be a big help the way he’s chucking them today.

  48. Melvin

    This is the kind of game we have to figure out a way to win. The same kind of game we couldn’t win in the playoffs last year.

  49. Bet on Red

    Luis Castillo also pitching really well. With the exception of one pitch we would have dueling no hitters like the no hitter that Moore is throwing now that I am Jinxing.

    • Mark Moore

      Echoing the jinx along with the call for Jobu to WAKE UP BATS!!!

  50. LGR

    Now that I think about it.. Was is Naquin in this game over Akiyama? Last time I looked, Akiyama hit leftys better than rightys.

  51. Mark Moore

    OK, Sadak now in on the jinx Matt Moore action

  52. JB

    Changing over to the philly broadcast to change up the mojo.

    • Mark Moore

      Usually agree … but I’m not laughing at the moment.

  53. Mark Moore

    Whiffing at 2 absolute crap pitches … that’s just painful to watch!!!

  54. JB

    This reminds me of the Holliday no hitter in the playoffs. Embarrassing.

    • Mark Moore

      I remember that. Plus MLB has that in their rotation for commercials as well. Got to give LC some run support. Heck, he didn’t whiff when he was at the plate.

  55. Indy Red Man

    India 3 for last 24. Barrero might be able to fix that. Rookies usually hit a wall. Mental exhaustion as much as physical. Farmer can play wherever and guys could get 2 days off a week until they get a breather.

    • Mark Moore

      He has to be feeling some pressure at this point. Would hate to sit him, but it may be what he needs to clear his head. It will mean Moose at 2B if he does.

      • Roger garrett

        I said weeks ago if India blinked he would set and he will.No way Suarez at 11 mil or Moose at 17 mil will watch India play

  56. Bet on Red

    Alright, I have done what I could. Now going to rely on the fact that he is not that stretched out and since he is throwing a no hitter that I am trying to Jinx they are going to have to keep him in there until he gives up a Hit breaking up the No no

    • Mark Moore

      Girardi almost took him out of the mix.

  57. Dennis Westrick

    Have the Reds been No-Hit this season?

    • Bet on Red

      no we have not, if memory serves the last no no where the reds were the victims was Areita’s No-No in 2015. We of course threw one this year

      • RedsMonk65

        Arrieta was 2016.

        Latest was vs. Mike Fiers (A’s) in 2019

    • JA

      I think the closedt to that was vs mets facing sthroman the first time (1 hit)

  58. JA

    Need to score to earn the game.
    Time to play small ball or something to break Moore’s rhythm.
    Hopefully phillies manager moves his pitcher 1 batter late.

  59. Indy Red Man

    Wow that sac bunt thing really isn’t that hard. Its funny how we allow 85% and we get them down successfully 15% of the time.

    • Joe P.

      Suarez should have thrown that to 2nd. Probably wouldn’t have got Herrera but it was worth a shot. They still could have relayed to get Moore at 1st.

  60. CI3J

    Of course, the Reds show up and make a washed up pitcher who hasn’t had an ERA below 4.00 since 2013 look like the second coming of Lefty Grove.

    Because of course.

  61. docproc

    So over Suarez at the plate and in the field.

    • Mark Moore

      Welsh was saying if you haven’t made up your mind and have to look, you’re too late.

      • JB

        Terrible play. Herrera was only half way to 2nd.

  62. Mark Moore

    Just throw it right at Harper and move on

  63. Bet on Red

    When the Reds break the no hitter, they need to do it with emphisis. Multiple hits. Runs scoring. Got to win the games we are supposed to win

  64. Mark Moore

    Well, we are definitely behind, so the time would be now to make that happen.

    • Indy Red Man

      Except they’ve been losing Castillo starts they should’ve won all year long. Whether he pitches well or not. That 6-1 bs in KC for instance. 6-1 after 7 innings

  65. Indy Red Man

    Well SD has lost 3 in a row to Miami and Arizona twice. We got back the games we lost earlier this week. If we fall back 4 or 4.5 its not the end of the world. They have 19 with SF/LA while the Reds play a bunch of cupcakes.

    3 in Milw are big too….we really need 2

    • Mark Moore

      No, today is not the end of the world. And we showed who we can be last night against Zack Wheeler. I just hate to see us give Moore a no-no here and leave it to tomorrow’s game to take the series.

  66. Joe P.

    That pitch to Realmuto had no movement on it. It just sat there. 2 bad pitches at most and here we are.

    Come on Reds let’s get a hit today.

  67. Hanawi

    Terrible call on that first pitch to Votto. You can’t give both that one and the inside one to Aquino.

    • Hanawi

      Strike zone was a mile wide on those two called strikes in Votto’s at bat

  68. Bet on Red

    Ewww…. now we are all going to start getting the ESPN notifications of what we all know

    • Bet on Red

      Yahoo sports actually wins the notification race

  69. Joe P.

    The Reds aren’t seeing the ball at all right now. Some hard hit balls early but now nothing.

  70. Mark Moore

    Sticking with it … but this is tougher to watch than the blow-outs or even the extra innings stuff.

  71. Mark A Verticchio

    You just can’t predict this team, on paper this should have been a win and look what happens. Castellanos never swung the bat and looks lost. As i have mentioned before the Cardinals are right on the Reds tail and with there schedule there is a lot to worry about.

    • LGR

      The Cardinals schedule is one of the tougher ones in baseball. I don’t know what you’re on about.

      • Mark A Verticchio

        Check out the next two weeks = 11 of 14 = 2 with Royals, 2 with Tigers and 7 with Pirates. It is tough in September but by then they could easily catch Reds.

      • LGR

        @Mark That September is brutal. The Reds play the Pirates 9 times in the last 2 and a half weeks of the year. The Reds schedule as a whole is far easier.

  72. JA

    One of these days in which Reds can play 20 innings and not even touch 2B.

  73. LGR

    We better see Moose come in for Geno against Bradley.

  74. Indy Red Man

    Baseball without hitting makes it more boring then soccer. Soccer is idiotic, but they do run around alot and fake injuries occasionally by flailing on the ground so the other team gets charged with a boo boo

    • Ryan

      I couldn’t have said it better about the mindlessness if soccer

  75. RedsGettingBetter

    The offense is really down today… India , Castellanos and Votto =7 Ks in 7 ABs , 2 walks… Is it a joke?
    The ghost of 2010 no-no is appearing… Philadelphia again…
    come on Reds! don’t permit it

  76. Doc

    Reds need India to be setting the table, and Winker to be clearing the dishes. They are the keys. Others seem to catch the bug when those two are hot. Even so, a two run deficit is not too much to overcome.

  77. Hanawi

    Big out for Castillo. One more to get out of the jam and keep them in it.

    • Hanawi

      Damn. Slight bobble from AA or he would have nailed him.

  78. LGR

    I mean if you’re gonna go Hoffman if Castillo gives up the hit to the lefty, you probably should have just went Wilson vs. the lefty.

  79. Mark Moore

    Didn’t see it. Did hear it. Caught the challenge replay call.

    Looks like a tomorrow thing at this point.

  80. Indy Red Man

    I thought he was out, but it was hard to time the fingers with the tag on his leg.

  81. Joe P.

    Too many steps by Aquino before that throw.

    Also, I was watching Castillo prior to the pitch to Jankowski and he was looking over to the dugout. Look like he wanted to come out, although I doubt he would admit it.

    • Hanawi

      Before my comment was deleted, I mentioned that he bobbled it slightly or else he would have had him. Think that’s what caused the extra step.

  82. VaRedsFan

    Aquino did about 3 things wrong in that 1 play. Didn’t charge, took extra crow hops, and made a bad throw…..all to miss the out by an eyelash.

  83. Indy Red Man

    For one Jankowski is not going to dump one in front of me in LF. I would be super shallow there. You know he’s just going to slap at the ball Shogo style and isn’t going to drive it. Oh well. 6 more outs to figure it out

  84. Bet on Red

    Alright Ty Steve…. my Jinx worked…. now keep the line moving

  85. Indy Red Man

    This guy gets us out and the 5 Iggy/Bradley to the HOF RLN trolls will all be out in force))))

  86. LGR

    Alright Stephenson. Time for everyone else to wake up.

    • Hanawi

      And no Winker for Aquino. Guess he’s not available at all.

  87. Indy Red Man

    6 outs left so lets make sure Geno the on base % machine gets every ADJECTIVE atbat

  88. Joe P.

    I don’t understand why the Reds keep taking so many close pitches with 2 strikes.

    • Mark Moore

      The plate discipline seems to vary greatly. For some, more than others much of the time.

      • Joe P.

        The 3rd strike to Aquino. He has to swing. He’s not on the team to stand there and look at it and then complain to the umpire. Swing! Swing the bat!

  89. Mark Moore

    No-no and shut out gone … but we need the 9th to be a little bit of magic now.

    • Bet on Red

      we do have the top of the lineup though so there is that.

  90. Indy Red Man

    Ian Kennedy reminds me alot of Melancon and he’s been getting smacked around lately. Its a shame that inch didn’t go our way on that tag though. 2-1 would feel alot better.

    • Mark Moore


      2-1 would feel so much better … especially after that walk.

  91. Mark A Verticchio

    Mousestakis is proving to be a horrible signing, he was way over rated. That was a nice job by both Stephenson and Naquin. Why more people don’t bunt is amazing especially when you are being no hit.

  92. beelicker

    Crafty LHP is Red Kryptonite anyway and the crazy quilt afternoon sun/shadow FX helps any pitcher greatly in adding to that

  93. Indy Red Man

    Kennedy 8.44 era for Philly so far, but 3-3 in saves and 19/20 overall

  94. Mark Moore

    In general, the word “robust” annoys me. It doesn’t mean anything. Yet I hear it in professional settings and today from Sadak at least 2x that I noticed. I was just getting used to him and then that. Oh, well … gives me something to whine about I supposed.

    C’mon Doolittle – let’s sit these guys down in order.

  95. Roger garrett

    Anybody wonder why Luis went out for the 7th when pen had a bunch of fresh arms?Anybody wonder why not a lefty to face Janokwski?

    • Hanawi

      I didn’t really mind. Castillo was pitching well. Gave up a walk, a bunt single and then a blooper into left. If they were going to bring in a LHP, they would have done it to face Herrera first. And who is the lefty? Doolittle who is getting smacked around in the 8th.

      • Indy Red Man

        Willlllllsooonnnnn!!! Castaway reference. He’s the only B- lefty we have

    • LGR

      I was fine with him coming out. I said I was a little confused why Wilson didn’t go out for Jankowski if that was going to be the leash for Castillo anyway.

    • beelicker

      Castillo was at mid 9o pitch count and the sun/shadow situation was also working then and your pitcher’s spot was coming up 5th next so you’d like to keep that full deck of options open at least, give JC the chance to finish the inning

  96. Indy Red Man

    There’s our boy Doolittle in action. Why not Wilson? game over….see you tomorrow

    HH Doonothing and AG all need to go. You expect nothing but bad things and they rarely put up zeroes when you need one

  97. LGR

    Not sure why this wasn’t Cessa’s 9th.

  98. Mark Moore

    Catch you all tomorrow. This stuff happens. Test of our mettle will be how we recover and face the get away game.

  99. SOQ

    Well, well, well. Didn’t see that coming (sarcasm intended)

  100. Dennis Westrick

    Is there a rule that EVERY Reds RP has to walk a batter, usually the leadoff hitter?

    • Indy Red Man

      You with the walks and Roger with all Reds not extending each at-bats to 11 pitches each)))

      • MCT

        Are you saying that it isn’t a common occurrence for a Reds reliever to issue a leadoff walk? I feel like it’s been happening a lot lately.

  101. doofus

    Who was Farmer throwing the ball to? That was something I would expect Suarez to do, not the second coming of Ozzie Smith?

    • Joe P.

      He threw it to Votto but Votto had his head down and started walking back to 1st. Votto probably thought that Farmer would run it back in.

      • doofus

        No, it is on Farmer. Votto did not throw the ball to no one.

    • Joe P.

      Just to add to my point. That’s on Votto. He has to keep his head up and pay attention until the play is over. Pay attention until the ball is back in the hands of the pitcher or until time has been called.

      • doofus

        No, Farmer has to pay attention (i.e. not be a bonehead) and throw a ball to no one. The error was Farmers. And, justly earned.

        I will repeat, Kyle Farmer is a nice UTILITY player, he IS NOT an everyday SS.

  102. Bet on Red

    well, the reds are not going to win out. I did peg yesterdays game as a loss and todays game as a win. Guess i was wrong on both fronts. Gotta go out and get the series tomorow

  103. docproc

    Thanks, Doolittle.
    Thanks, Farmer.
    Little League baseball.

  104. Dennis Westrick

    And, proof again that Bell is not serious about winning the close games when he brings in someone like Doolittle! A 2-run deficit is not insurmountable but this game is OVER!

  105. LGR

    I’ll say it again, love me some Doolittle.

  106. doofus

    Doolittle can get a job after baseball with NASA. He knows how to launch rockets.

  107. Dennis Westrick

    Need I say more! Doolittle turned a 3-1 game into 6-1 in short order! BP time for the Phillies!

    • LDS

      As I’ve asked more than once, what is Bell’s real agenda. It certainly isn’t winning ball games. Sadly, my earlier prediction has come true. So they stand to lose a half game to the Brewers tonight (the Pirates aren’t likely to do it twice) and possibly a full game to SD. As I said, there’s always next year. This year is about in the books.

      • LGR

        In the books? After this series, the Reds have one of the easiest schedules with the Padres having a brutal September schedule. I don’t think anything is in the books.

      • LDS

        LGR, you’re underestimating Bell’s ability to mismanage. As I’ve said for months, this team will underperform as long as he is managing. Today’s game is just another example. Neither Hoffman nor Doolittle, especially Doolittle should have been used in a close game.

      • Doug Gray

        The Reds record right now is better than anyone predicted or any system projected them to be….

      • LGR

        @LDS Listen. I don’t like Bell as much as the next guy. But the mismanaging of the bullpen wasn’t why they lost today lol. It’s hard to win games when you only get 2 hits on offense.

      • LDS

        Agreed, I fully expected them to lose today. It’s been a repeated pattern all year – beat someone that no one expects them to beat and then make a mediocre pitcher look like a Cy Young candidate. As for their record versus projections. Sometimes projections are good, sometimes they aren’t, e.g., LA & SF. But the question to me is where should they be vs where they are. And on that basis, they have vastly underperformed. Some of it is clearly the FO’s cheap ways. Some of it, such as the lack of hitting is on the players. And the numerous giveaways by Bell’s bullpen management is grounds for firing the guy. Has the bullpen been bad? Certainly. But even when it was and is better, Bell usually falls back on the same cast of mediocre options. So we can all disagree but at the end of the day, I don’t think they have a chance.


      Yeah, just hope Bell leaves him in the entire inning, no need to waste anybody else now that he decided to give this game away by using Doolittle in a 2 run game

  108. Bet on Red

    The positive is that the important portions of the bullpen get an extra day of rest. I do not think that Doolittle is long for the roster anymore. How much longer are we waiting on TJ Antone

    • LGR

      If I had to guess, Antone will be back after this next series with the Cubs. So the start of the Marlins series.

  109. LGR

    There was someone in here yesterday asking why Lorenzon over Doolittle because he has only pitched twice in August. This. This is why.

  110. Dennis Westrick

    When this 7 game road trip started I was hoping for a 4-3 result, or, 3-4 at worst! Now, tomorrow is a must win to get the third win!

    • Votto4life

      So we should just tune out the rest of the season if the Reds lose tomorrow? Good to know.

  111. docproc

    Bring up Antone and Santillan.
    Cut Hembree and and Doolittle.
    Stop the bleeding.

  112. B-town fan

    I think every body here has said everything that needs to be said about Doolittle this season, nothing left to say.

  113. Mark A Verticchio

    Can any Bell apologist stick up for him after that inning? The man has no clue period, why let Doolittle pitch to Cutch, not smart.

    • LGR

      I mean I’d let him pitch to Cutch. At that point you don’t wanna use anyone else.

  114. Dennis Westrick

    Phillies using one of their best RPs to close out a game where they have a 5 run lead! Imagine that!

    • Bet on Red

      I would not call him their best… he is their closer but he is getting shellacked since he was traded.

  115. doofus

    If the Reds lose this game, they will be 7-5 (.583) since the 106 game mark. At that time we were discussing the point that the Reds would have to go 34-22 (.607) to reach 90 wins, and have a somewhat decent chance to make the playoffs.

  116. Old-school

    Bring up Senzel as your every day CF tomorrow and righty hitter against lefties and occasional 3b

    Bring up Jose barerro as your mostly SS

    • LGR

      I don’t see Senzel traveling to Phillie for tomorrows day game. Could see him Monday for the start of the Cubs series considering AAA is off on Mondays anyway.

      • Mark Moore

        Agreed. Sunday at L’ville and then a quick trip home to meet up with the club.

        I doubt Barrero comes up, but I’m hoping with Antone coming back we’ll drop back down to 13 pitchers and 2 of the current lot go packing.

  117. beelicker

    I’m assuming sudden shoulder impingement will be attributed to contributing to Doolittle’s outing …

    • Jim Walker

      But somebody has to actually go over the rainbow ? from the 40 man roster for Senzel to be activated (or even parked at AAA on option).

      Something akin to a 3D chess move that would get them a 40 man spot is to move RJ Alaniz (recall him?) from the 10 IL to the 60 day IL. Then Senzel could take that spot; and, a sudden impingement could get him to the 26 man active roster. But that seems like a lot of moving parts as opposed to just sending away someone who doesn’t get the job done and will get paid for the rest of the year regardless.

  118. Votto4life

    Just one game….the sky isn’t falling..back at it tomorrow.

  119. LGR

    Just remember, after tomorrow, the Reds schedule becomes pretty much a cake walk for the rest of the year. We should see Senzel back Monday if I had to guess, and Antone back for the Marlins series. I’ll see you guys tomorrow, Go Dbacks!

    • Votto4life

      Exactly right…people act down right suicidal after every loss. I get just as frustrated as the next guy, but we have an exciting young team and is incredible fun to watch. Just enjoy the season. It’s baseball! Teams don’t win everyday.

  120. Old-school

    Farmer has done a great job as a utility infielder and role player but its sad some people think he is the SS over Jose barrero

    Actually embarrassing

    Hes a 31 yo utility player
    Barrero is 23 and born to play SS and killing it in AAA

    C’mon Krall

    • Jim Walker

      Think the issue is, as several folks have noted, more about making the room inside the roster limit. That old song from the 1970’s “Never Can Say Good-Bye” should be the walkup music for whoever makes the roster decisions for the Reds

  121. Eddie

    Suarez killing me all this hit into double plays. Castillo wasn’t bad but showing glimpse of May Castillo at times. Offense on fire at times and then Ice cold annoying when these games critical time of the season.