The Cincinnati Reds (49-47) will start the final series of their homestand tonight at 7:10 PM against the St. Louis Cardinals (49-48). The Cardinals have come out of the second half hot, as they have won 5 of 6. The Reds have to win this series to remain in second place in the division.

Starting Pitchers

Tyler Mahle is having a really nice season for the Reds. His struggles this year can mostly be attributed to what he has done the third time through the order. Batters are hitting .298/.356/.556 the third time that he has faced them. Mahle of course would not have faced as many batters a third time with a better bullpen. Mahle has a career 4.88 ERA in 10 starts against the Cardinals, but he has pitched really well against them in 2 starts this season: 12.0 IP, 4 ER, 3 BB, 17 K, 3.00 ERA.

Wade LeBlanc was traded to the Cardinals from the Orioles in late May. He had been used as a reliever all year, but was moved to the rotation out of desperation (he had a 4.63 ERA as a RP). The Cardinals have been living well with LeBlach on the mound as he has a 2.50 ERA in 4 starts for them. However, he has allowed 17 hits and 8 walks in 18.0 innings, while only striking out 9 batters. He is certainly due for some major regression if he keeps that up.

Starting Lineups

Cardinals Reds
1. Dylan Carlson (RF)
2. Paul Goldschmidt (1B)
3. Nolan Arenado (3B)
4. Tyler O’Neill (LF)
5. Paul DeJong (SS)
6. Harrison Bader (CF)
7. Tommy Edman (2B)
8. Andrew Knizner (C)
9. Wade LeBlanc (P)
1. Jonathan India (2B)
2. Jesse Winker (LF)
3. Tyler Stephenson (C)
4. Joey Votto (1B)
5. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
6. Aristides Aquino (RF)
7. Tyler Naquin (CF)
8. Kyle Farmer (SS)
9. Tyler Mahle (P)

The Reds have a .687 OPS vs LHP, the 6th worst in baseball. It doesn’t help their struggles to be missing Nick Castellanos, who is one of the best hitters in baseball vs LHP.

News and Notes

The Reds made some roster moves this afternoon. Doug Gray looked at them earlier today, but here’s the quick rundown:

  • Nick Castellanos to the 10-day IL
  • Amir Garrett to the paternity leave list
  • Vladimir Gutierrez up from Triple-A
  • Alejo Lopez up from Triple-A


It’s go time for the Cincinnati Reds. They’ve started just 1-5 to start the second half, but they have also faced some really good pitchers. That is over.

-Combined ERA of the first 6 SP the Reds faced in the second half: 2.82

-Combined ERA of the next 7 projected SP the Reds will face: 4.28

-The expected ERA (xERA) of the next 7 SP is 5.24, 5.07, 5.75, 4.71, 4.81, 6.05 and 4.43

-Bullpen ERA in July:

Reds 4.68 (15th in MLB)
Cubs 5.19 (20th)
Cardinals 6.04 (27th)

The win streak starts tonight. Go Reds!

260 Responses

  1. AllTheHype

    Two of the worst slash lines in MLB batting 2nd and 5th in the lineup.
    Winker against LHP and “you know who” 5th.

    Please Reds, one day hire a manager that has some sense about analytics and lineup optimization.

  2. Old-school

    Reds get a chance to beat 2 beatable teams in Cards and Cubs. Neither team is really trying yet neither is Castellini.

    Brewers playing playoff like series against White Sox with both teams throwing their elite SP in all 3 games

    Cards heavy righty line up in GABP against Mahle with a red hot Goldschmidt and bad bullpen and no Castellanos against a lefty raises some Red(s) flags. To quote Indy- always take the over at home with Mahle pitching. That means 10+ runs and a prominent role for a truly awful bullpen.

    Tyler Mahle is the key to this game in potentially a season defining next 7 games. Can he pitch well and deep into the game at home when it matters?

  3. docproc

    Some fun facts about Aquino based on very small sample sizes:
    –He currently leads the team in SLG (.632) and OPS (.990)
    –He has 10 walks in 67 PAs, which has helped him to a .358 OBP. He’s spitting on some pitches that he used to swing at.
    –His WAR is 0.5. Suarez’s WAR is -1.8.
    –He’s actually hitting better against righties than lefties this season (so please don’t platoon him).
    I realize Aquino is not the messiah and might fall flat on his face. And he isn’t a relief pitcher.
    But right now, this team’s best hope is to put up a lot of runs and not leave our fate to the bullpen.
    Rooting for Aquino to step up and help fill the massive Castellanos void in our lineup.

  4. Bet on Red

    Turns out I was right. Vlad to the rotation, Hoffman to the Bullpen. At least there is that

    • Old-school

      Its becoming clearer and clearer.
      Reds bullpen strategy in 2021 is pitch the long shot guy the most to fail to make sure he fails and loses games before we move on to the next guy.

      All the DFA guys or demoted to AAA guys were pitched and pitched while the better performers sat

      Cam Bedrosian sal Romano Carson Fulmer Cionel Perez Jose De Leon

      Hoffman Doolittle Osich hendrix are now in the queue.

      Shouldnt it be the other way in a pennant race?

      • LDS

        It’s the Bell pattern, remember Hernandez and Hughes?

      • DataDumpster

        Exactly. Look at innings pitched. Since Bell started here, he rode all the slow horses way too long. Several of them had some good innings at first before teams got familiar with them but then folded quickly (but Bell used them anyway). Remember when Fulmer and Bedrosian were the new “closers”?
        Sometimes the critical point of the game comes in the sixth inning, Bell never played that angle. Refused to put in Antone until a lead was had which frequently never happened because of his earlier decisions.

  5. Dennis Westrick

    With all due respect to you Nick, Mahle’s “struggles” are NOT what happens to him in the later innings! Why? Because of his propensity to walk batters in the early innings runs up his pitch count. Thus, he seldom pitches into the later innings! Another “challenge” for Mahle is his tendency to Nibble and turn 0-2 and 1-2 counts into full counts or worse! I like Mahle and want him to succeed, especially tonight! In order to do that he needs to; 1) limit the walks, 2) pitch to contact and 3) keep the ball in the ballpark. Go Reds! Beat the Dirty Birds!

    • Dennis Westrick

      Smart teams in the midst of a pennant race make strategic move to improve their teams! The Rays added Cruz as a DH and the Mets added an experienced pitcher! The Reds deficiencies are obvious! Now lets see if the ownership team is serious about winning the NL Central or the Wild Card spot! The time for handing out participation trophies is over!

      • Bet on Red

        Well unless the NL was going to adopt the DH rule mid stream, Cruz would have been useless to us. Man hasnt played the outfield in 2 years. We also have better internal options than Rich Hill. Not mad we passed on either.

  6. LDS

    Against LH’ers: Naquin .194, Winker .173, Suarez .120. And Suarez back up to the #5 slot.

    In the middle Votto .208, Aquino .214

    and the upside:

    Farmer .269, Stephenson .304, India .344.

    On the bench: Freeman .200, Akiyama .273, Lopez .300

    The odds of the Reds winning don’t look all that great. Third place by the end of the night.

    • DataDumpster

      It was mentioned on the radio that the Reds are 29th in slugging pct. against LHP pitchers (consistent with your data). I would not have expected that. With Bell’s obsession with handedness, I thought that would be one area where his management style would be successful.

  7. JB

    2 front runners for Rookie of the year batting first! Stephenson right behind them. Let’s go Reds!

  8. Tom Mitsoff

    It will be an interesting bullpen night with Antone, Sims, Lorenzen and Garrett all not available.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      No doubt. He has to be rookie of the year if he keeps this up.

      • RedsMonk65

        Definitely. Color me impressed.

      • DataDumpster

        Impressed with him immediately. Then, when he got into a slump, he recovered to a very respectable .270 or so avg. We have had a ROY since Pete Rose in ’63, haven’t we? Maybe not.

  9. Mark Moore

    Yep. The Kids are alright. It’s a bunch of others that need some fixing.

    • Mark Moore

      And the Old Man knocks ’em in!

      • RedsMonk65

        Votto is on this year (especially after coming back from the injury) — though he will likely never be the player he once was. The thing I like is that pitchers have to respect/fear him these days — maybe not as much as in the distant past, but certainly more than in recent years.

  10. Tom Mitsoff

    Nice to see the Reds jumping on a pitcher they should jump on.

  11. Mark Moore

    He just can’t lay off that crap, can he? And they keep throwing it.

  12. Bet on Red

    Wasnt leblanc the pitcher someone said, Decades ago mind you, that the reds should have sent Votto, Bruce and Bailey in a trade package?

    • Tom Mitsoff

      No, I think that was Joe Blanton.

    • Old-school

      Paul daugherty said trade joey votto for Erik Bedard

      Someone else on RLN promised India would never hit .240

  13. LDS

    And Mr. Consistency strikes out AGAIN. Bench or trade him.

    • Mark Moore

      Well, he’s batting 5th tonight, so another Golden Sombrero is a possibility.

    • Arthur

      You just hate to beat the dead horse here, but the Cardinal pitcher is a junk-ball lefty.

      What is it about Geno’s performance over the past two seasons that causes anyone to believe that he can hit this guy???

      It is sad to watch a guy like Geno struggle – you really have to feel for him. However, he is an absolute rally-killing machine. I don’t think this team can be a legitimate contender with that lack of production in the middle of the order.

  14. RedsMonk65

    Yes, Suarez’s futility is really getting old — for him, I’m sure, for the team, and for us fans. He needs to sit a while. Lopez could use some playing time. Honestly, what could it hurt?

    • Indy Red Man

      We’re short on power. Especially in gabp where everyone hits them on us. Barrero to SS & Farmer to 3B until Moose/Senzel are ready

  15. Mark A Verticchio

    Home runs are killing this team, they give up a lot and don’t hit very many.

  16. Dennis Westrick

    I meant to post a comment earlier that the 2 hitters that are hot and can hurt you in the Cards lineup are Goldschmidt and Bader! Guess Mahle didn’t read the scouting reports!

  17. Bet on Red

    Hunter Greene perfect through 3 in Louisville…. 6k no walks…. certainly looking better.

  18. Arthur

    What is the current opinion as to Tyler Stephenson’s defensive ability as a catcher? Can he handle that job, or is team better off trying to find a position in the field for him?

    I believe they have to find a way to get his bat in the lineup on a more or less regular basis.

    • Mark Moore

      Adequate, but he seemed to pick up 1B well enough from what I saw as well. So with the DH highly likely, that may be his best future with us.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      He’s been getting better defensively as the year has progressed. He’s still not as good as Barnhart (few are), but Stephenson has made big strides. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with having such an accomplished pair of catchers. Keeps both of them fresh.

      • Arthur

        I agree that it is great to have two good catchers on your roster. But, doesn’t that by definition mean that one is NOT in the lineup every game? I rather like having stephenson’s bat, and Tucker’s glove, in the lineup as often as possible.

  19. Mark Moore

    So we’re on track to squeeze 5 innings out of Mahle at this rate (eye roll)

  20. Tom Mitsoff

    Mahle is on his typical high pitch count. Five or six innings probably at the most tonight.

  21. Dennis Westrick

    Mahle already at 40 pitches thru 2 innings! On pace for another 5 inning outing! He has got to improve in this area!

  22. Indy Red Man

    I’m glad Honey Boo Boo could make it. Geno won’t be the only boo boo on hand

  23. Tampa Red

    I have a hard time watching the Reds when Mahle is on the mound. Not because he’s a bad pitcher, he’s clearly a big leaguer, it’s just that his style results in throwing 20+ pitches every inning and he’s slow in doing it.

  24. JB

    How did Naquin walk? The count said 3-2 .

    • Bet on Red

      i think we just accept it for what it is

    • Indy Red Man

      Its sales thats called assuming the sale.

  25. Mark Moore

    I’ve got the sound off. What in the heck is going on?

    • Tom Mitsoff

      The home plate umpire let Naquin take a walk when the pitch out of the zone was on a 2-2 count.

      • Mark Moore

        Thanks. So he’s proving he’s incompetent to be the HP umpire then … figures. HIs zone stinks.

    • Bet on Red

      Horrific umpiring at its finest. CJ Buckner walked Naquin on a pitch that made it 3-2. Cardnils reveiwed, Naquin has to come back. David Bell basically aguing that the Umps should just eat the mistake

    • JB

      They didnt know what the count was. It said 3-2 on Naquin after the pitch and he just walked to first and everybody bought it for a second.

    • Indy Red Man

      Naquin has ADD. Thats the bottom line, but evidently I do too because I can’t remember what he did last time to indicate that he wasn’t paying attention

  26. JB

    That’s twice this year that Naquin had problems with the count. Although I’m not sure it was his fault this time.

  27. JB

    Arenado grabbed his hammy running to first.

  28. Tom Mitsoff

    Only six pitches that inning for Mahle.

    • Dennis Westrick

      Let’s hope that trend continues!

  29. Bet on Red

    Smart play by Mahle getting that pitch off. While the player going into second was clearly out, they could have gotten the runner to first back on. Instead, now we have a nice short inning

  30. Indy Red Man

    Farmer>Wink vs lhp and its not debatable. Call up Barrero because we’re severely outgunned vs lhp otherwise. Atleast the kid another shot

  31. VaRedsFan

    Halfway to the cycle…
    can’t wait to see triple

  32. Mark Moore

    Well, that’s one back in Geno’s favor

  33. VaRedsFan

    I’m glad Aquino is playing, but he struggles against the soft tossers

    • Indy Red Man

      I noticed Mahle throws the change as well as the splitter vs lefties, but its just fb and mediocre slider to righties and only the fb for a strike. Why not throw more changeups to righties? He needs work in the offseason

  34. Bet on Red

    Yea, I was surprised to wake up this morning to the news of the Guardians. Understand the city reference now that I red about it but I am with Sadak the Logo on the bottom right is a little….. cheesy

    • Mark Moore

      Not even a good minor league logo in my opinion. Certainly not as good as the Trash Pandas.

      • Bet on Red

        Speaking of the Trash Panda’s article on ESPN says the Angels are pretty much dumping …. over the minor leaguers with a lack of pretty much everything

  35. Mark Moore

    Good to see after the efficient inning Mahle is back to nibbling and walking batters. That never comes back to bite him. Never.

  36. Dennis Westrick

    Walks, walks, walks! I’ll be AFK for a few minutes while I go outside into the rain and scream! Hopefully my neighbors will not call the cops!

    • Mark Moore

      We’ll hold down the fort, Dennis.

  37. Tom Mitsoff

    Reds need to work some counts against LeBlanc so they can get into that flammable St. Louis bullpen early.

  38. Mark Moore

    At least he went with that pitch. Just missed it a little bit. And a decent grab as well.

    • Indy Red Man

      Votto and Naquin atleast compete vs lefties. I’d platoon Wink if he can’t do the same

  39. Bet on Red

    Kyle farmer vs Leftys is a must start

    • Indy Red Man

      15 for 46 (.326) in July with 4 doubles and 3 hrs. Not bad!!

  40. Tom Mitsoff

    This would be really, really big if Stephenson could deliver some runs home.

  41. Bet on Red

    Third time through, the Junk aint gonna cut it no more

  42. Mark Moore

    OK, looks like House made the right call holding him up.

    Go TySteve!

  43. Indy Red Man

    Huge inning if their guy doesn’t climb up the wall on Naquin.

  44. RedsMonk65

    Farmer is having a good July thus far.

    .295 BA, .367 OBP, .890 OPS (all while apparently hurting somewhat)

  45. Gpod

    Reds leaving men all over the place tonight….usually comes back to haunt

  46. Old-school

    Im a huge votto fan

    Bought 2002 mint grade 9 rookie card for my infant son way back

    Now worth a lot

    That said critical of votto in 19-20 but one of the storylines of this season is the re- emergence of Votto as a tough at bat

    Great for him and the Reds

    Hes been solid-since his hand injury

  47. Mark Moore

    Sure. Put a man on in front of Goldy. That’s not going to be a problem. Better get a ground ball now.

  48. Dennis Westrick

    Get the bullpen up! If Mahle can’t reduce the walks he does not deserve the chance to pitch the minimum of 5 innings to get credit for a win! That assumes the Reds bullpen can pitch 4+ innings of scoreless relief!

  49. RedsMonk65

    Come on Mahle — get it together, dude!

  50. Old-school

    Mahle is afraid to pitch in gabp

    Plain and simple

    Problem is theres no one 4 inning solution in the bullpen

  51. Mark Moore

    Nibble, nibble, walk … nibble, nibble, walk …

    And not really even nibbling. Yes, the zone is beyond wretched, but Mahle just seems like he won’t pitch to contact when he needs to.

  52. Bet on Red

    If you look closely, every time there is contact mahle flinches. Even on obvious pop-out and other easy outs. Needs to trust his stuff and trust his defense

    • RedsMonk65

      Crash Davis’ famous exhortation to his pitcher: “Hey. Relax. Don’t try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they’re fascist. Throw some ground balls. It’s more democratic.”

  53. Tampa Red

    This 5th inning is why I don’t like watching the Reds when Mahle pitches, it’s just excruciating baseball.

  54. JB

    I dont smoke but Mahles starts are getting me there.

    • Dennis Westrick

      Quit smoking in April 2009! Mahle & this team are gonna make me start smoking again or start drinking! 95 pitches thru 5, again!

  55. Old-school

    Giants say Joey bart super phenom catcher is available for SP or hitter

    Reds SP owns SF home park

    Trade mahle for Bart

    Stephenson can back him up and play 1b and Dh next 5 years

    Mahle cant pitch at GABP

  56. Tom Mitsoff

    That strikeout is both a relief and maddening. Mahle doesn’t have enough control of his non-fastball pitches to avoid walking three batters in a row. But when he has to get guys out with the bases loaded, he strikes out two in a row on fastballs that those hitters had to know was coming.

  57. Dennis Westrick

    Good news is Mahle pitched out of the mess he made! Bad news is he’s probably done for the evening and we have 4 bullpen innings!

  58. Bet on Red

    unless his spot in the order comes up, I send Mahle out for the 6th. Get as many outs as possible out of him

  59. Slicc50

    Nice looking swing there from AA. He shortened up and went right with the pitch and got himself a hit. If only he could do that consistently.

  60. Bet on Red

    I missed the Part where nick Howard got promoted to AAA. Possibly another relief arm that potentially can be used.

    • JB

      I missed that too. Great to see him doing well.

  61. Mark Moore

    2 on, 2 out, Miller out, and tonight’s hero Kyle Farmer coming up. All it has to do is find some green.

  62. Bet on Red

    Well even if Aquino did not go, they would have easily gotten the out on first. Gotta think that that was a Run on contact call.

    • JB

      Arenado didn’t know how many outs there were. Crazy game here.

      • Bet on Red

        everyone forgot…. Arenado, Sadak, Me for a minute.

  63. Old-school

    Reds are going to lose this game again because front office and ownership did nothing to solve a bullpen problem

    Mahle did enough but theres nothing further to win

    Laughable to listen to sadack talk about Farmer “hot streak”

    This season is over

    3b is awful
    SS is awful
    5th starter is awful
    Bullpen is awful

    Mail it in

  64. Mark Moore


    (heavy sigh)

  65. Mark Moore



  66. RedsMonk65

    C’mon Garcia , throw strikes!

  67. Slicc50

    Just like that, lead is gone, now we are trailing

  68. Reddawg2012

    The bullpen just blew a lead. I am so shocked.

  69. Tom Mitsoff

    Oh boy. Looks like Garcia has nothing but a fastball. Nothing else to distract hitters with.

  70. RedsMonk65

    Here we go again. Bullpen Follies. How can the front office bear this night after night?

    • Arthur

      The same guys who say “Suarez is gonna be fine at 3B” are also saying “the guys we have down there in the ‘pen will right the ship any game now. We just have to give them time to get things figured out.”

      I suspect they are also saying “if we bring in another relief pitcher or two or three, we are probably going to have to pay them. And we certainly don’t want to actually SPEND MONEY to make the team better.”

      The bottom line is the bottom line – not winning baseball games.

  71. Bet on Red

    And there is that. Thought Garcia might have been the answer… Nope…. Need Bullpen help now.

  72. Old-school


    Reds bullpen pitcher who pitches the most is next pitcher to get Demoted or DFA’d

    Put Garcia in the demotion queue

    Hendrix next up in the pitch the most then get demoted or DFA queue

    • Old-school

      Call this the Cionel Perez 2021 bullpen award

  73. Dennis Westrick

    And here comes the beginning of the end! It will be painful to look at the NL Central Division standings tomorrow and see the Reds in 3rd behind the Cards!

  74. JB

    Wht didnt they just bring Hembree in? No sense in saving him for the 8th or 9th when the Reds are losing.

  75. Dennis Westrick

    Now I know how Captain Smith on the Titanic felt when he was told there was an iceberg dead ahead!

  76. Bet on Red

    There is another transaction that will be due sunday when AG comes off the paternity list. ( it is still 3 days right). It will be another bullpen arm going down. The pitchers who want to be here will show it. Still have 12 outs to get the lead back.

  77. JB

    About 40,000 fans in the stands tonight. Bob sitting in his office counting receipts and probably watching The Big Bang Theory on TV.

  78. Dennis Westrick

    If the Reds go on to lose this game Mahle owns a lot of the blame for, once again, not being efficient with his pitch count and lasting more than 5 innings!

    • Old-school

      I disagree

      Mahle drives us all crazy but if he hands the bullpen a 3-2 lead in the 6 th .. bullpen needs to win that game

      The Reds dont have a bullpen

      This game was obvious loss 2days ago once Castellanos out and Garrett out

      Reds FO doesnt care

      • JB WV

        If you can’t “afford” to field a team that can compete for a championship, sell the team.

  79. vared

    Watched a little of the Yankees last night. Sal Romano was looking good. Shut Boston down. Reds bullpen must be pretty good to let a guy like that go.

    • Bet on Red

      there is a difference of playing for a team, and then playing for your hometown team. Romano would have been more of the same here

    • Slicc50

      Yeah, he will do that from time to time. But then he may come out the next night and give up 7. You just never know with Sal

      • JB

        I’ve been watching him in the minors and that is exactly what he did.

      • vared

        True, but based on what I’ve seen lately I would prefer to take my chances with Sal over half of these guys.

      • Slicc50

        I know, it’s maddening isn’t it?

  80. RedAlert

    Reds will be completely out of race after this series . Nice job Big Bob . Hope you’re enjoying this train wreck in progress .

  81. Dennis Westrick

    For the life of me don’t know why Bell turns over a 1-run lead to a rookie pitcher in a crucial Division game!

    • Bet on Red

      Garcia isnt a rookie…. he has been up in two other seasons.

      • Dennis Westrick

        OK, suffice it to say that Garcia is not a veteran with lots of experience in similar situations?

      • Mark Moore

        So he’s an untested journeyman then. Results still stunk.

  82. Mark Moore

    I’m kind of shocked that only put them up by 2. Feels like we might have a chance to score. Of course, then we’d still need our bullpen to throw a solid 3 more innings. But that’s not asking much, right?

  83. Indy Red Man

    I’m tired of watching this bullpen. If Bell had Lorenzen, Sims, etc. then they could atleast get to the bottom of the 7th no worse then 3-3. 1-6 coming out of the break and its over

  84. JB

    Well the offense needs to rally again. Let’s get a couple here.

  85. Mark A Verticchio

    I agree a lot of the blame has to be on Mahle, he has to go more than 5 innings.

    • Mark Moore

      Yep. That’s kind of why 6 innings is the benchmark for a “quality start” I’m thinking. He just can’t make that due to all the walks and nibbling.

    • Indy Red Man

      Yeah he was good and warm. The slider has some bite and popping 97, BUT you have to throw enough of them over the plate. He should’ve got thru 6 there. He was only at 65 pitches thru 4.

  86. Bet on Red

    I got to think the Players Union get a ban of the shift into the next CBA. More hitters then pitchers.

    • Bet on Red

      also, I know it’s the travel day for Lopez, but get him some starts over the weekend. That one nearly dropped

  87. Mark A Verticchio

    The Cardinals may return the favor form the earlier sweep. putting the Reds out of this race for good.

  88. Indy Red Man

    Cleveland Guardians….ok?

    Columbus was an idiot. He “discovered” a place where people already lived and then was so positive they reached India that the people here had to be “Indians”. I know kids are glued to their phones and don’t actually open books anymore, but eventually Columbus will pay the toll too.

    The Centrapolis Blue Jackets? This Saturday Michigan travels to Centrapolis to play Ohio State)))))))))

    • Bet on Red

      never found the reason that we have a federal holiday for an Italian citizen working on behalf of the Spanish crown who found the Dominican Republic.

  89. RedAlert

    Wow this bullpen is brutal – this the best they got in AAA ? – unbelievable that front
    office has done ZERO to address this –
    embarrassing – but as many have said , owner doesn’t care . No bigger proof of that than this .

  90. Old-school

    Every reds hitter-including the lefties at least grinded out an at bat

    Geno suarez nothing again

    He has to be benched

    The season is nearing over

    Bullpen is about to implode again

    Reds lose they are 1-6 after the break

    Its stupid to trade for the now now unless for the future

  91. Mark Moore

    Hit ’em, walk ’em, just let ’em get on so they can do more damage.

    I’m on the edge of a Clete here. What little hope I had is waning fast.

  92. Bet on Red

    No, this guy isn’t the answer either.

  93. dhmorgan

    Please, Mr. manager Bell sir, if a relief pitcher has a good inning, will you please, sir, keep him in the game until he falters?
    Bell: No.

    • Dennis Westrick

      Hendrix threw a total of 13 pitches! Obviously can’t pitch another inning!

  94. Tom Mitsoff

    I’m waiting for the call that I’ll be next up if Alaniz is hurt.

    • JB

      Has any team ever traded for 7 relief pitchers at the deadline? Can we be first?

  95. Indy Red Man

    Coach to Garcia and Alaniz in Louisville. I have some good news/bad news for you

    A. Much bigger paychecks, but you’ll be back here next week

    B. Hitters are twice as good and the park is half the size.

    Good luck!

    • Bet on Red

      Obviously they pitch long enough to see if they are any good, then fake an injury to stay on the Major league IL. (therefore the pay as well)

  96. Bet on Red

    Here is another Releif pitcher to the IL.

  97. Old-school

    So alaniz continues the reds streak of of most recent pitcher getting demoted or dfa’d or IL’d

  98. Mark Moore

    Somebody posted earlier that even with the back dating, Nick C. can’t be traded before the deadline. Is that correct? A player on the IL can’t be traded?

    I’m just thinking we’re not buyers anymore. We’re just not. That’s a pipe dream. I don’t think the Dirty Birds or the Stupid Cubs are either no matter how this homestand plays out. But we’re not buyers (or shouldn’t attempt to be). Standing pat just seems ridiculous to me at this point, though I’m not sure who gets moved either.

    2022 (if it happens) is our best bet.

    • Bet on Red

      That was me… I will look it up to make sure, but I am pretty sure that someone on the IL cannot be traded. Even if it is, it would severely depreciate the value of the said player to make it impracticable

    • Bet on Red

      Excuse me. I stand corrected. You can be traded on the IL. Still maintain loss of trade value arguement though

    • Indy Red Man

      Thats why they have to let Santillan, Aquino, Barrero, Senzel, etc. Let’em play! We’re going nowhere so start to sort it out for next year. Sims when he gets back. Anybody that has a possible future, but yet is still unproven.

  99. Dennis Westrick

    OK gents! Unlike the Cardinal batters I’m OUT!

  100. Old-school

    Barry Larkin

    “So important to bring in guys from the bullpen who have swing and miss stuff “

    Houston we have a problem

    Took bell 3 pitchers and a loss to get to Santillan

  101. Bet on Red

    OK why has this guy been sitting in the back end of the Bullpen?

  102. Mark Moore

    There has to be something about the “kiss the pinky/Dr. Evil” move he makes.

  103. DataDumpster

    Tony! Leave him in as long as possible. He’s gutsy and challenges the batters and it saved the game (for now). As the Cowboy said: “If you want to dance the ball around the plate and are afraid to attack, that doesn’t work at this level.” That approach describes 2/3 of the Reds staff.”
    Even if the prize is placed right in front of you, it is still necessary to pick it up and assume the responsibilities inherent in doing so. Pause for Suarez who is way past due.

  104. Bet on Red

    Votto, and to a lesser extent Suarez realising they have to pick up the slack with Nick C. on the IL. Now please a mistake to aquino please

    • Bet on Red

      not what i meant but well take it

  105. Indy Red Man

    Geno!! A guy thats 5’10 shouldn’t have a long/complex swing. Maybe they can fix him somewhat in the offseason? Nobody is going to want a dude hitting .175 in a trade and owed $35 mil on top of that

  106. Mark Moore

    How many different ways to score from 3rd?

  107. Old-school

    Reds gotta win this game

    Cards arent good

  108. Mark Moore


    Good throw, but probably not deep enough anyway. Keep him at 3rd and no risk plus another chance to score him.

    • Mark Moore

      Like that one. That would have scored him had he gone on contact.

    • JB

      Agree. Not deep enough and only 1 out with Naquin up. Frustrating

  109. VaRedsFan

    And the over 9.5 hits in the Mahle @ home start again

    • Bet on Red

      yes it did. I took Indy’s advice too

      • Bet on Red

        yea had 10 on the over 10 on the Total HRE over at 29.5 and ten on the 1st inning HRE at 3. Won all three.

  110. Bet on Red

    it was a very good throw. Someone faster I would have sent him.

    • Mark Moore

      Yeah. That’s what I was thinking. Borderline call that can’t really make me mad about it, but with nobody out and risking missing the chance that came next … it’s done now, so we live with it.

  111. Mark Moore

    So Santillan, a former starter, can’t go another inning? SMH!

    • LDS

      It’s the Bell way. One inning each so everyone gets to play. I don’t know what the Reds need more bullpen help, a shortstop, or a new manager. I’d start with the manager.

    • AllTheHype

      10 pitch inning. He’s gotta be gassed. That’s Bell though. He could have a 3 pitch inning and Bell would send them to the shower instead of another inning. Bell acts like he’s got a deep pen of bull pen stars.

      • LDS

        Worse than that, the game is tied late and extra innings is possible. Bell has used up the entire roster by the end of regulation. Just not a quality MLB manager.

  112. Hanawi

    I really will never understand the “keep putting new relievers in there until one blows the game” strategy. Surely these guys can pitch multiple innings and then you end up throwing guys multiple days in a row, which might be worse overall.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Bell currently believes in Brach and Hembree for late-inning, high-leverage situations. You’ll probably see Hembree in the ninth.

      • AllTheHype

        That’s fine if you’ve got a lead you’re protecting.

    • AllTheHype

      The strategy works (blowing the game).

  113. Indy Red Man

    Has there been a ball to LF that went any further in gabp then Goldschmidt tonite? Thats 475 easy. I don’t care about the stupid statcast

    • VaRedsFan

      correct…what they call it….445 or something…..
      that was well past that.

      • Indy Red Man

        I was watching KC Milw this week and KC hit a ball dead-center completely over that black batters-eye or whatever they call it and off the facing of the walkway above it. Dead-center was like 405 and it was easily 40-50 feet above the fence. They called it 425 or something

  114. Mark Moore

    One thing positive from Bell. He doesn’t hold back the 2nd catcher from PH duty. So many do unless it’s desperate.

    • AllTheHype

      That’s because he has a viable 3rd catcher for an emergency.

  115. Mark Moore

    Opportunity calling Jonathan India. Mr. India please step to the plate and do your thing.

  116. Old-school

    Brewers up 1-0
    7 th

    Reds have to win this game

    Cards arent a good team

    • Mark Moore

      I think I read that somewhere … 🙂

  117. VaRedsFan

    India needs to think right field here.

  118. Indy Red Man

    Huge crowd is a factor tonite. Lose the lead and fall behind 5-3 and they’ve folded up for the night in some instances this year, but the crowd kept them jacked up tonite!

  119. Bet on Red

    Stadiumm sound crew trying to hype the crowd but everyone is waiting for the reds to score first. REds score it will be LOUD

  120. Mark Moore

    Trouble brewing. TySteve has been on top of it tonight. All we need is a fly ball. To RF would be helpful.

  121. RedsMonk65

    Bases loaded. One out. Tie game. Let’s Go!

  122. JB

    Hey indy you watching Brewers game? I see Peralta only gave up 1 hit an was out of the game after 50 pitches. I wonder if he got hurt.

    • Indy Red Man

      No I think they’re managing his innings

  123. Mark Moore

    My wife commented on that first “ball”

  124. Mark Moore

    That brings the crowd into it. Nice job by TySteve.

    • Mark Moore

      Just very impressed with The Kids. Very impressed.

  125. Bet on Red

    Alright, Nice Sac Fly. Lets see Votto have a Four hit night

  126. Mark Moore

    Bader threw a bit of a rainbow up the line. That helped.

  127. Bet on Red

    ALright…. Hembree…. 3 outs please.

  128. Mark Moore

    Quite the night for India, Stephenson, Joey, and Farmer. Now up to Hembree to nail them to the wall.

    Glad I didn’t Clete. Dennis may wish he hadn’t.

    • Bet on Red

      I never clete. There is too much fight in this team to leave and write a game off.

      • Mark Moore

        Well, it’s not a school night, so … 🙂

  129. Mark Moore

    It may come down to Wainwright as the PH for out #27? I’d love to see that happen.

  130. Mark Moore

    They are chasing that garbage from Hembree. Love seeing that.

  131. Bet on Red

    Oh you dont want to bat Molina…. do not give Wainwright the Pitcher treatment

  132. dhmorgan

    Good game. They need to win the close ones and they did tonight.
    And Farmer is picking them up!

  133. JB

    I dislike the Cardinals. Its even sweeter when Wainright makes the last out.

    • Mark Moore

      Better still Whineright with The Neck Tattoo still on the bench

  134. Indy Red Man

    Solid win!!! Everybody seemed to chip in somewhere!

  135. Mark Moore

    With The Neck Tattoo looking on …

    NAILED IT!! Nice work Heath!

  136. RedsMonk65

    Reds beat the the Dirty Birds–nice!

  137. Bet on Red

    The dominance of the Cardinals continues. Rookies and some big names pull the weight for the missing Nick C. Reds showing No QUIT in them.

  138. Mark Moore

    Farmer earned the Jim Day spot tonight.

    • TR

      Farmer doesn’t get much recognition, but he steps up when needed.

  139. RedAlert

    Gonna give this team credit for coming back , nice win !!! But I’m not easing off ownership /front office – Absolutely pathetic you won’t go out and refuse to get these guys some help- just pitiful !!!!!Great crowd too !! Made a difference !!! GO REDS !!!

  140. LDS

    A win is a win though I’d have to say neither manager distinguished themselves tonight. As bad as the bullpen is, the results would be better if they were managed better. And the substitution of Freeman seemed gratuitous.

  141. Mark A Verticchio

    Why in the world did Bell Take out Votto. He should have not run for Barnhart either especially with 2 out. If anything he should have let Tucker catch the bottom of the 9th.

  142. RedsMonk65

    Votto again consistently produces, without fanfare. Not vintage, obviously, but above-average and even dangerous.