The final series of the first half can’t get any bigger than this. The first place Milwaukee Brewers will host a 4-game series against the Cincinnati Reds and a good showing from either team can really change the outlook on the second half.

Starting Lineups

Cincinnati Reds

Milwaukee Brewers

Jonathan India– 2B Luis Urias – 3B
Jesse Winker – LF Christian Yelich – LF
Nick Castellanos – RF Willy Adames – SS
Joey Votto – 1B Omar Narvaez – C
Tyler Naquin – CF Avisail Garcia – RF
Eugenio Suárez – 3B Jace Peterson – 2B
Tucker Barnhart – C Keston Hiura – 1B
Kyle Farmer – SS Jackie Bradley Jr. – CF
Tyler Mahle – SP Adrian Houser – SP

Starting Pitchers

Tyler Mahle

What began in 2020 for Tyler Mahle has continued into 2021. He’s posted a 3.63 ERA, which works out to a 126 ERA+ this year – well above-average.

There continue to be big splits for Tyler Mahle. Lefties have hit just .188/.276/.281 against him this season in 181 plate appearances. Right-handed hitters have hit .254/.321/.486 against him in 193 plate appearances. He also has big home and road splits. On the road he’s held opponents to a .188/.274/.293 line (.268/.333/.514 at home) and his ERA is just 2.01 when he’s not in Cincinnati this season (6.06 in seven starts at home).

Pitch usage from 2021

4-Seam Splitter Slider
Velo 94.3 86.4 87.3
Usage 51.3% 12.7% 36.0%

Adrian Houser

If you like seeing ground balls then Adrian Houser is your guy. He leads Major League Baseball with a 60.3% ground ball rate this season. His 3.94 ERA on the year comes out to be a 105 ERA+, so he’s been slightly above-average at preventing runs in his 15 starts and one relief appearance.

There are some splits with Houser. Right-handed hitters have hit just .215/.310/.368 against him on the year. Left-handed hitters have a .294/.353/.441 line against him with just 24 strikeouts in 158 plate appearances – that’s just a 15% strikeout rate.

Pitch usage from 2021

4-Seam 2-Seam Slider Curve Change
Velo 94.0 93.5 83.6 80.4 87.5
Usage 14.3% 52.4% 8.3% 14.9% 10.2%

When and Where

  • Game time: 8:10pm ET
  • Where: American Family Field, Milwuakee
  • Watch: Bally Sports Ohio,
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: ­They have a dome.

News and Notes

Sonny Gray placed on the injured list

The Reds placed Sonny Gray on the injured list this afternoon with a rib cage strain. They recalled pitcher Tony Santillan to take his place on the roster. Gray noted this afternoon when speaking with the media that he doesn’t expect to miss any starts. The 10 day waiting period will basically be covered by the All-Star break and he’ll be eligible to return in the first series back against the Brewers in Cincinnati.


Unfortunately it was just the completion of a trade that the team made in January. Earlier today the Reds sent outfield prospect Darlin Guzman to the Toronto Blue Jays to complete the trade for reliever Héctor Pérez. For more on those guys you can check out what was written over on

Max Schrock activated….. then optioned

The Reds activated Max Schrock from the 10-day injured list today after his rehab assignment with Triple-A Louisville was completed. They then immediately optioned him to Triple-A Louisville.

NL Central Standings

Playoff odds via Fangraphs

Team W L GB Playoff %
Brewers 52 36 0 88.0%
Reds 45 41 6.0 18.2%
Cubs 43 44 8.5 6.0%
Cardinals 43 45 9.0 2.3%
Pirates 32 54 19.0 0.0%

242 Responses

  1. Mark Moore

    Good for Schrock that he collected MLB pay as long as he did. Small benefits sometimes make the day.

    Hoping Farmer isn’t too banged up. I was still wondering if we’d see Geno at SS and Lopez at 3B. Maybe that’s still to come.

      • Mark Moore

        Melvin – I only said it because it was “on the table” in KC but never happened. I’m trying to think about getting Lopez more of a shot.

      • Melvin

        I know buddy. Just Suarez @ SS is counterproductive in almost all scenarious in my view.

  2. Old-school

    A win tonight guarantees the Reds a winning record at the All Star break, cuts the Brewers leads to 5 and guarantees they add a game against either the Cubs or Cards.

    Go Reds.

  3. Bet on Red

    I am schrocked, schrocked i tell you at Schrock getting optioned. Though freeman would be the victim there.

  4. Klugo

    Schrock isn’t better than Freeman??

    • Mark Moore

      Does his glove play at SS? That could be one reason.

  5. Bet on Red

    a note, while the Cardinals seem to continually deny reality and refuse a selloff, it looks like there is beginning of a realization in Chicago about their playoff chances. If the Cubs offload pieces then it will help cincinnati even more giving us a second team to beat up on in the division (besides the Pirates of course)

    • Mark Moore

      Yep. MLBTR had a post about it quoting Hoyer. Wonder who wins the Kris Bryant sweepstakes.

      • Roger Garrett

        Cubs had a good run with this core but now its pay me or trade me time.Bryant will get a big check from somebody with big bucks.

  6. Dennis Westrick

    Important Game 1 of a 4-game series! I still believe in the Reds! Need to stay close to the Brew Crew now that their schedule is tougher than the last 3 weeks! Score early and often! Need Mahle to be a beast tonight and gp at least 6 innings!

  7. Roger Garrett

    Hard to say its now or never but it really is for the Reds.Have to gain ground in this series so lets see what happens.

  8. JB

    It must be a huge game. Front row Amy and her two friends are there.

  9. Bet on Red

    making Hoyer throw alot of pitches in the first inning with a bullpen that had to play a double header yesterday, this is good

    • RedAlert

      Might be worst team in mlb driving in runners on third with less than 2 outs – absolutely pathetic

  10. Mark Moore

    If we come up empty here … oh the humanity!!

    • Mark Moore

      At least he went the other way and Houser has 30 pitches. But still …

      • Roger Garrett

        Yeah but he will probably only throw 6 or 8 in the next inning.

  11. Rex

    at least with 2 outs geno can’t ground into a double play

  12. Roger Garrett

    Just awful.Can’t even put it in play with the bases loaded and nobody out.

  13. dhmorgan

    Bases loaded. Nobody out. And nothing.
    Come on men, you cannot afford to waste opportunities like this.

  14. Bet on Red

    at least suarez put it in play. No excuses for votto and Naquin

  15. LDS

    Well that was pathetic. Stephenson batting 4th, my guess is the Reds would have scored.

  16. Old-school

    Reds didn’t execute fundamental baseball
    Don’t need a HR or try to do too much. Hit a fly ball, put the ball in play. Lost opportunity.

    • Old-school

      Very similar to Braves playoff last year. Couldn’t put bat to ball to create runs when opportunity right there.

    • Dennis Westrick

      The words “fundamental” and “baseball” should never be used in the same sentence to describe the current Reds offensive approach!

    • RedAlert

      That’s pathetic Mahle 0-2 on first 2 batters and they both reach

      Dude gonna throw 100 pitches by fifth inning again – own worst enemy as many others have said before

  17. Dennis Westrick

    Not a good sign to leave the bases loaded with NO outs. Key batter IMO was Votto. At least Geno didn’t emulate Votto & Naquin and strike out!

  18. Mark A Verticchio

    I hope that doesn’t set the tone for the whole series.

  19. Indy Red Man

    Adjective adjective game just started and I’m already enraged

    Whiskey tango foxtrot was India doing on Castellanos hit to begin with? I’m could’ve jogged home on that one. Get your secondary lead and then go once the ball gets by 2B. He wasn’t that close to catching it and it took a while to get to the RFer

    I swear. What a #&*$%& start

    • bug

      I heard that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No excuse not to score on that single. Reds third base coach is too afraid to send a runner home. We have to get a double to score a man from second. Too afraid to swing the bat. And on and on. Cowards!!!!

      • bug

        And the pitchers are too afraid to throw strikes,..i.e. nibble around the edges, etc. The Cincinnati Cowards!!! It starts at the top. Bell needs to go!!! Sparky would kick some a*****. Sparky didn’t put up with wimpy fraidy cats. He was a man,…as was the Big Red Machine. Votto squats,…okay. I’m through.

  20. Roger Garrett

    Mahle ahead 0-2 and walks the guy on 4 straight.Not a good start for the Reds.

    • Doc

      That’s when I tuned out. Happening just too often.

  21. Dennis Westrick

    Good grief Mahle! A walk followed by a HBP?

  22. Indy Red Man

    0-2 on the leadoff hitter and he walks him. I’m done. Mahle is not going to get by with this garbage start after start. He’s on his way to a 5 era. His stuff isn’t that dominant to do what he does

    I’ll check back

  23. Roger Garrett

    Mahle says hey hitters didn’t show up so might as well join them.Reds are not ready to play it seems.

  24. MCT

    I bet the Brewers cash in on this whereas we all know the Reds did not

    • bug

      Reds are too afraid to even swing in that situation. Cowards!!!

  25. bug

    Embarrassing!!! This is the playoff chokers we have come to know. Too afraid to even swing. Votto is back to his girly ways. Last night he took 3 straight strikes right down the middle with a man on third and less than two outs. Never took his bat off his shoulders. Then tonight he takes two straight down the middle, and then a swinging strike with the bases full and nobody out. And the Reds can not score a runner from second unless they get at minimum a double. This third base coach will NOT send a runner home. He’s too afraid. Reds are cowards. Never steal a base. Too afraid to swing. No reason India should not have scored from second on Nick’s gap single with several hops to the outfield. Every other team in baseball would have scored on that single. We didn’t even try. I knew we would not score. Same as the post season Reds last year. They reverted back to those days. Reds are embarrassing!!!!! Bench Votto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He does not have the courage to even swing at a baseball in the clutch. How frustrating!!! This series will end the season for the Reds.

    • Roger Garrett

      I share your frustration for sure.You just knew they weren’t going to score.

    • Jim

      I agree with the assessment of Votto. Thought he was resurrected last week a little but no. If someone could show how many Left On Base that Votto has this year, it would show that he should Not be in the lineup!!

    • Andy

      I made the mistake of looking at the comments section on here for the first time in months, and don’t know why I’m surprised to find the same negativity upon my return. Bad start to the game? Sure. But why even watch or comment if you get this worked up over it. Whew.

      • bug

        Oh,..the negativity is too much for me! It’s very hurtful indeed. I don’t know why folks have to say negative things. There is no excuse for it. Some of us are sensitive. Just sayin…

      • Jefferson Green

        I’m with you, Andy. Big series for our Redlegs, thought it would be fun to check out the chatter here. While many commenters are solid and fun to read, an amazing minority spew unfounded negativity and make it so much less interesting.

  26. RedAlert

    Pitiful Mahle , just pitiful – vomiting all over the mound

  27. Roger Garrett

    Mahle isn’t even in the building.Bases loaded on 2 walks and a hit batter.Little league offense and pitching so far

  28. Mark Moore

    Somebody tell me that did NOT just happen

    • Mark Moore

      And then that … I’m about to pack it in way early tonight.

  29. Bet on Red

    just gross… getting the ball garrentees at least one and perhaps a double play… instead

  30. RedAlert

    I need to find something else to watch it appears – wow he ain’t got it tonight – can’t do anything right

    • Bet on Red

      national spelling bee is on one of the ESPN channels lol

  31. Roger Garrett

    Little league stuff on the diamond for sure.Just forfeit and lets try tomorrow or find others ready to play

    • jazzmanbbfan

      Hmmm. And now the Reds have the lead but let’s just forfeit.

  32. RojoB

    Methinks perhaps Tyler Mahle has begun to have trouble getting a grip since Manfred called out the sticky police

  33. Old-school

    Per baseball savant, Suarez jam shot was 52.8 mph 151 foot blooper. That’s not better than a strikeout. It’s the same

    Suarez has the same # of home runs as Castellanos.. They are close in walks. Saurez is 3rd in strikeouts in MLB.

    Suarez is striking out at an All time rate but not hitting singles or doubles. Look at Suarez singles and double compared to Winker and Castellanos singles and doubles. Suarez does nothing offensively other than hit 1 home run a week

    Castellanos has 61 singles, Winker 56, Suarez 29
    Castellanos has 28 doubles ,winker has 16 Suarez 9.

    Suarez isnt walking or hitting singles or doubles.

    Mahle has to bow his back

    • Mark Moore

      Thanks for that array of stats. It’s very hard to watch.

  34. RedsMonk65

    This may be the worst first-inning display I’ve seen from the Reds this year.

  35. Gregmlb

    Someone should of went there 2 pitches ago. But they wait until this idiot walks in a run.

  36. Dennis Westrick

    Mahle was obviously not mentally prepared to pitch this game!

  37. LDS

    Pull him. It’s not there tonight. 3 walks, a HBP, and 1 hit – trailing 2-0. This is like a small country high school team playing a big metropolitan high school.

    • Dennis Westrick

      I resent that comment! (kidding) I played high school baseball for a small county high school in KY. And, yes, when we played the larger high schools in Louisville and Northern KY we got crushed!

      • LDS

        I went to Clarksville right across the river. The school had a good team, made the playoffs, etc. Faced off against a much larger school in the semi-state and were like deer in the headlights. Just shellshocked by the crowd, etc. No “Hoosiers” action that day. Of course, with the class system everywhere, there won’t be another Milan HS.

  38. J

    Yesterday I said I’ve never seen a guy who goes from 0-2 to 3-2 as much as Mahle does. First hitter tonight, he did exactly that. I’m convinced his problem is mental. He’s too afraid of letting anyone hit the ball. He should be forcing hitters to swing at his 0-2 and 1-2 pitches.

    • RedAlert

      Agree – it’s between the ears !

    • Dennis Westrick

      I believe it’s called “pitch-to-contact!”

    • RojoB

      Can’t be afraid of this weak hitting Milwaukee team

  39. Roger Garrett

    Nope let him throw 100 even if its in the first inning.Time for him and this team to man up.Nobody is ready to play.

    • Jim

      Mahle should have had a nice cushion in runs, which makes a lot of difference going to the mound. We need him the next several years. And also need a 4th, 5th and 6th hole batters. Especially 4th

  40. Gregmlb24

    Don’t understand why it took so long for Johnson to come out and talk to Mahle. Makes all the difference.

  41. RedsMonk65

    Finally. Could’ve been much worse, obviously, but gifting Milwaukee two runs this early is never a good thing.

  42. J

    Maybe he noticed that sometimes it’s good to let the hitters put the ball in play. That inning will turn everything around for him.

  43. Mark Moore

    Nibbling doesn’t work. Lucky it was only 2. Could have been an onslaught.

  44. Mark A Verticchio

    So far the Reds have literally crapped all over the field, it looks like they may not be ready for a big game. Nice job Votto that strike out really hurt.

    • RedAlert

      Last dude on this team that needs to bat in the 4 hole

  45. Bet on Red

    alright, double play. If the reds trend holds, we have come back from 2 run deficits…. oh this entire week save one day. Hope that they got Tony S. to Mil before the game cause he might be needed today

  46. Roger Garrett

    I am a big fan of Mahle and he has pitched some big games on the road this year when we really needed it but what happened right there just can’t happen.First we do nothing after the bases loaded and no outs,then we gift wrap 2 runs that could have turned in to a bunch.

  47. dhmorgan

    The Reds are nothing if not Komeback Kings.
    But a few more innings like the first and I don’t give them much of a chance in this game.

  48. Indy Red Man

    Why didn’t they activate Lorenzen and Hoffman for this game? What are they waiting on? Like Perez is going to help?

    Their pitcher makes a tough barehand play. Mahle can’t make an easier one. India doesn’t score on an easy rbi for Nick. Bad bad start, but we’re getting guys on

  49. RedsMonk65

    Reds have bases juiced again. Gotta score some runs this time.

  50. Dennis Westrick

    Going to take a break and wash some dishes or do the laundry! At least I’ll be more productive than the Reds in the 1st inning!

  51. dhmorgan

    Fortunately for the Red’s Houser is just as out-of-sync as Mahle.

  52. bug

    And the Reds are BUNTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How embarrassing. They are never successful with a bunt. They just give up an out. They should just forfeit games. They do not have the courage to swing the bat. The Bunting Reds,..the Nibbling Reds,..the Afraid To Swing Reds,..the Afraid to Steal Reds,..the Afraid To Send A Runner Home Reds. The Girly Reds. The Cincinnati Cowards. They do have a few men on the team,..but the manager and way too many players are girly and fraidy cats.

    • Mark Moore

      Don’t hold back, bug. Tell us how you really feel about the team.

    • Bet on Red

      first and second no outs? pitcher up,- yea i am taking the bunt. better then a double play

      • bug

        I’m sure you would. How many runs did we score?

      • Bet on Red

        more then we would have with Mahle hitting into a DP. Mahle needs to execute that bunt correctly

      • bug

        More than we would have if we had hit into a double play? Hummmm. So we scored NONE. If we had hit into a DP, we would have scored none. None = None. But you say, we would have scored more by bunting. Interesting take on it. That’s interesting math. So you are afraid we would have hit into a double play. You are afraid, huh? That’s my very point. The Reds are TOO AFRAID!!! Fraidy cats do NOT win in the end. They are too afraid to win. They play it safe. I rest my case.

      • Bet on Red

        being sensible is not being afraid guy, its being sensible

  53. Gregmlb

    Haven’t heard the term fraidy cats in a long time. Made me laugh during this very frustrating game. Thanks for that

  54. Mark Moore

    I’m done. A Law & Order rerun calls. At least they win most of the time.

    • Roger Garrett

      I am gone as well.Back to back innings with bases loaded and we don’t even put a ball in play.Now this is the 2,3,4 and 5 hitters that were up.Houser said hit and they couldn’t that to me is amazing.

  55. RedAlert

    2 innings 6 left on – awful at bats .

    Unbelievable how bad this team is with runners at third less than 2 outs – would like to know just how bad they are

  56. Jim t

    Winker and Nick C never swung at a strike

  57. Mark A Verticchio

    Has to be the worst inning and a 1/2 I’ve seen a team play in a long long time.

  58. Indy Red Man

    The Reds #s were off the charts vs Houser, but he just mowed down the meat of our lineup twice with bases loaded. Sick. Just make contact?

  59. BatsLeftThrowsRight

    Any Reds fan who continues watching this game tonight is a masochistic, end of story.

    • Indy Red Man

      Well they are comeback kings and I don’t believe in Houser or their lineup. If it was SD then I’d be gone. If it was Woodruff or Burnes then I’d be gone.

      Funny thing with Burnes. This series will make 13 games with Milw and we won’t see Burnes at all. Maybe if they bring him back Sunday on 3 days rest for an inning?

  60. Gregmlb

    Mahle velo seems down tonight. Isn’t he usually around 95-96?

  61. Bet on Red

    after a passable zone in KC, the zone in this game is once again attrotious.

  62. J

    For all his achievements, Castellanos really has to be more willing to take pitches. When you establish yourself as a great hitter, you can’t assume every pitch is going to be a strike.

    • Indy Red Man

      He’s always going to be a hacker. He did have 12 walks in May though.
      I think the Reds would take 8 or so

  63. Gregmlb

    If Mahle gets through 4 innings tonight it will be a miracle

  64. Indy Red Man

    Kind of a smaller/dead crowd tonite. Bucks in the NBA finals tonite I think

  65. Mark A Verticchio

    This is the biggest joke of a game I have ever seen.

    • Daytonnati

      I take it you missed night before last? 🙂

  66. Bet on Red

    lots of mistakes for the Votto double. Votto for just watching it. The OF for not getting it. and the stadium designer for that monstrosity of the jutting portion in right

  67. Indy Red Man

    Ok Geno bashers. Feel free to pile on. Dude either Ks or rolls over every adjective time he hits with guys on base. You have to either lift the ball or hit it the other way when they go outside. He does neither. Hits it just hard enough to get doubled up every.adjective.time

    • Gregmlb

      Has a -1.1 WAR. They could almost take any minor league 3B and replace him

  68. RojoB

    Houser has been BEGGING the Reds to score for three straight innings

    They’re killin’ me

  69. Mark A Verticchio

    This has not been Votto’s best demonstration on how to play baseball.

  70. Indy Red Man

    Bases loaded nobody out = nothing
    Bases loaded 1 out = nothing
    1st/2nd nobody out = nothing

    Thats some grade A choking. Mama Cass couldn’t pull that off

    • TR

      And Votto leads off the third with a double and nothing. Three walks in the first inning produces a Brewers twofer. Shaping up as another come from behind game.

  71. dhmorgan

    Bad Geno for tonight. Responsible for 3 outs in 2 AB.
    Paraphrasing Lyndon Johnson: Suarez “couldn’t find his butt with both hands.”

  72. Mark A Verticchio

    Bell can’t continue to play Suarez, he, amongst others, is giving the Brewers a big first game win.

  73. Gregmlb

    Winker has basically done nothing for about 3 weeks. He got a big head and doesn’t even really get on base like he used to

    • dhmorgan

      Or maybe he is just reverting to his mean.
      I think he’s a good hitter, but probably not a .340 or .350 hitter.
      Maybe his realistic ceiling is .290 or .300.
      Still, he’s really in a dry spell now. He needs a few hits to get him going again.
      You could tell that he was really having some fun when the hits were dropping for him. I haven’t seen him crack any smiles lately.

      • Indy Red Man

        Rolling over alot into the shift. He did one hit over the SS in KC so maybe that will get him going. Alot of HRs and an AS now….thinking he got Geno syndrome.

  74. Mark A Verticchio

    I agree with the comments about Winker he is not a player that should start in the All Star game at high rate. I said the other day he might not be hitting .300 by the All Star game I am afraid I might be right.

    • Bet on Red

      All star game is a popularity contest, no even more so that they no longer give home-field advantage to the winning team in the WS. If Jesses a starter that’s great. Just like to see the reds representation

  75. Indy Red Man

    We’re on Geno 24/7, but Jackie Bradley Jr makes $12 mil to Geno’s $11.

    • Hanawi

      It’s amazing the Brewers are where they are with Yelich very underperforming again, Hiura has been awful, and they start JBJ a lot.

      • Richard Fitch

        Pitching. Starting pitching and bullpen is why they are where they are. Brewers are 3rd in the NL behind the Mets and Dodgers overall. Their starting pitching is ranked #1 and their bullpen is 8th.

        Pitching is the coin of the realm.

      • Jefferson Green

        They couldn’t get more hitting, but saw opportunities to add defense, and it has enhanced some already surprisingly good pitching. Most interestingly good front office in baseball. (Let me know if I am forgetting someone.)

    • LDS

      JBJ doesn’t play for the Reds. Just be glad he doesn’t. And Suarez thus far has done nothing tonight except reinforce my opinion that he needs to be benched and traded if possible.

  76. Indy Red Man

    Error so that makes Wink 2-27 in July. Terrible swing…rolling over on a 2-0 pitch away?

    Atleast he ran hard and got on base. He’ll come back around, but he’s got to beat the shift like he did earlier.

  77. Bet on Red

    ump made it a full count on votto with ball 4, walked him on strike three

    • Hanawi

      According to Gamecast, Votto’s had two other tough strike calls down and away in addition to that one you mentioned (one in that at bat and one in his first one). Ump really favoring that side of the plate.

  78. Bet on Red

    now that Naquin at bat is going to make the rounds over the internet for the next decade…. heading back to the dugout on strike two, walks the plate appearance. Into MIL bullpen. Third time loaded basis should be the charm

    • Bet on Red

      and it is, wild pitch one run in… nope 2 runs in on two wild pitches. TIE GAME

      • Bet on Red

        and a barnhart single…. it’s like we can’t win unless we come from behind

  79. Indy Red Man

    So with all the numbers available in mlb today…..does Geno have the record for stranding runners? He’s got to be on pace for the record. India/Wink/Nick/Joey on base constantly and never does anything. MInimum of 5 stranded per game. Like 10 today maybe?

    • Gregmlb

      He’s stranded a whopping 8 tonight. So that should add to his record.

  80. RedsMonk65

    Reds on the board! 2-2 game.

    All the runs scored tonight are ugly, Tommy Thrall says. Agree.

    So both teams even now in the ineptness department.

  81. gregmlb

    How is that not a balk by Cousins? I really don’t understand the balk call at all.

  82. RedsMonk65

    Tucker breaks the tie with a HIT (imagine that)!

    Reds 3-2

    • dhmorgan

      They are doing their best to give the Reds a present.
      Gift wrapping it with a big red bow on top.
      Hope they keep it up.

    • RedsMonk65

      Dern right we do. We’ve given our share!

  83. Indy Red Man

    I reverse my position on Stephenson getting more time as the C vs rhp. Tucker has been getting clutch hits all year and his defense is 3x better.

    Bell does need to sub Tucker in for defense with late leads when he’s on the bench. They probably sweep in KC if Tucker comes in up 6-1

  84. RedAlert

    Time for Geno to sit – it’s just time .
    Bell ain’t got the guts to do it though .
    Dude cannot hit a lick

    • dhmorgan

      He only hit .202 last year, so this year is not an aberration. It’s a mystery to me how his hitting could deteriorate so quickly over the past two years, particularly since he’s only 30 years old.

      • James H.

        He swings for the fences. All or nothing guy…

  85. RedsMonk65

    Considering how this game started, Mahle sure has settled down… (dare I say)

  86. Indy Red Man

    Scherzer up 6-0 on SD. We could be within 3.5 of the wildcard and 5 to Milw

  87. jctrum

    I can’t confirm this, Put something that is interesting to me, is that I feel like they’re showing the pitchers between pitches more since the crack down on foreign substances. It’d be interesting to see if anyone has noticed this too? I feel like they used to cut away from the pictures in between pictures. And I’ve noticed they’re showing them more. Maybe it’s just coincidence or in my head, but I’m curious if others have noticed this.

    • Indy Red Man

      Scoring is up like 20% since the rule enforcement. Maybe its the crazy heat waves or maybe its just random? My betting forum sure thinks its the sticky icky ruling

  88. 2020ball

    lol, just scrolled the comments, and its classic today. Y’all need to chill out, good lord.

    Anyway back to lurking. Crazy game so far, likely a wild finish. Go Reds!

    • JB

      Right! Half of them wont be back because they have jumped off the ledge. It was so bad tonight that they even went after Castellanos and Winker .

      • Gregmlb

        Because those 2 have really fallen off as of late. Winker in particular hasn’t hit a ball hard forever. Reds really have won despite not much of any production from those 2

    • Indy Red Man

      Well adjective man? 4 houses full of people left on base in the first 3 innings alone. Then Mahle goes Charlie Sheen from Major League.

      It put me at 40% Sadak which means the neighbors can hear))

      • Daytonnati

        Oh I like “percentage” Sadak. This could become a thing.

  89. Gregmlb

    Imo behind the plate is as bad as I have seen in a long time

  90. Mark A Verticchio

    Agree with 2 points, Suarez needs to sit and Tucker needs to come in with late leads when Stephenson is catching and one more point this ump is horrible.

  91. Broseph

    Does mlb care about umpire performance anymore? So many substandard strike zones this year. Sheesh

    • Bet on Red

      Oh I am sure they do, but the Umpire Union (and there is one) makes sure that once you make it too the majors you cannot be let go short of a criminal action. Now the good ones get rewarded with the All star game, playoffs and the like. But you can not fire an ump for being bad

  92. JA

    Baseball Gods are playing in Reds favour. If they don’t reach playoffs this year, I don’t know when

    • Bet on Red

      crushed them yesterday as well if I remember correctly

  93. gregmlb

    I really don’t know if I have ever seen a strike zone this bad

  94. Mark A Verticchio

    Winker has to make that play, he is really struggling.

    • RedAlert

      Yep agree – that play gotta be made !

    • Gregmlb

      Winker is all but done. Can’t hit or field

  95. RedAlert

    What is Winker doing out there !!!! Call Suarez off , that’s your ball dude !!! WAKE UP !!!

  96. Indy Red Man

    What a wacky game. That hurt though. Bad pitch by Mahle, but Wink should’ve caught that ball. They need Lorenzen/Shogo/AA for defensive replacements for Wink

  97. Mark A Verticchio

    Now you have the Reds bull pen against the Brewers, it doesn’t look good.

  98. J

    With this home plate umpire, the Reds’ relievers’ inability to throw pitches over the plate might actually benefit them.

  99. Old-school

    Reds missing a good lefty in the bullpen and another righty bat

    Garrett and Suarez have been huge liabilities the first half and both counted on to be leaders.

    Hard to overcome injuries plus 2 huge poor performers

    • Indy Red Man

      Going 1-10 in Castillo’s first 11 starts didn’t help either. Its really amazing they’re over .500

    • Indy Red Man

      Jackie Bradley Jr $12/mil and way below .200
      Geno $11/mil and way below .200

      It will be interesting which team pulls the plug first? I’m thinking Milw trades for Mitch Haniger or somebody like that.

      • JB

        Bradley will sit when Cain comes back. He is only playing because Cain got hurt.

  100. Bet on Red

    Votto and india lucky that the call on the field was out. Cause if it was safe it would have been upheld too

    • Indy Red Man

      India has great range, but he makes alot of careless errors. No reason to rush the throw there. He’s a rook though. It happens

  101. RedsMonk65

    Wow. Nice play. Gunned down at the plate.

  102. Mark A Verticchio

    Sadek talking about how far Suarez has come. LoL

  103. Old-school

    Reds have left 25 men on base
    Suarez 8

  104. JB

    Any of you know the name of the umpire behind the plate?

      • JB

        Try to remember him down the road. See if his strike zone is the same in later games. He is the worst I’ve ever seen.

  105. TyGuy88

    Strike zone has been baffling with this ump.

    • JB

      Players have to swing because they have no clue what the strike zone is. Rediculous.

  106. Indy Red Man

    Brach. Came off the trash heap. I don’t know why he uses Warren for 1-2 guys only?

    Williams for them is elite. Then Hader

    We have castoffs and retreads. This sucks because we’ve got the better team beyond about 5-6 pitchers

    • Indy Red Man

      Basically we gifted them the first 3 runs and then couldn’t even get a sac fly or anything with bases jammed. Thats the game. Back to 7 out

      • Indy Red Man

        Pads rallying from 8-0. We’re not catching them either

      • LDS

        4 pitches for Warren in a tie game. 9 for Osich, though I suppose one could argue L/R. But it sure looks like Bell was burning through the bullpen facing a possible extra innings game. It’s beyond my understanding. But it no longer matters.

  107. TyGuy88

    If the Reds want to win this division they HAVE to go out and get bullpen help. Brach should not be the setup guy on any baseball team.

  108. Mark A Verticchio

    This is Brach’s second bad outing in a roll, Bell should have stuck with Warren.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      None of these pitchers have the kind of track record that would indicate it’s a no-doubter decision to go with them (or not) in any situation.

    • Indy Red Man

      They said they would have Lorenzen for this series? He has experience, but he’s not 35 like Brach.

  109. Gregmlb

    Winker is the new Suarez. This game is on the offense tonight. Castellanos and Winker both are pretty much done. They strut around like they’re HOFs and just can’t drive in runs when needed.

    • RedAlert

      Human victory cigar – Perez now on the mound . what a joke !

      • dhmorgan

        “Human victory cigar”
        Thanks for the laugh!

    • LDS

      I’d look at 4-5-6 first. They stranded a bunch of runners. Still would have preferred Stephenson, AA, and Lopez to Votto, Naquin, and Suarez. Though in fairness, Votto has been decent against RH’ers. Naquin has been regressing. And Suarez simply isn’t playing at an MLB level.

  110. Indy Red Man

    Perez? Where the adjective is Lorenzen? Bell just gift wrapping this one up. I put alot on Mahle too. He came out and gift-wrapped 2 runs for them.

  111. Bet on Red

    short of a win Sadak is right, Hader pitched yesterday, force him to pitch today too. And force him to pitch alot. Short of a win the objective should be to force a win the next day. Trade for a closer and set up guy as well

    • Gregmlb

      If that last inning of Reds ABs is any indication of what’s to come, then there not much hope for Making Hader throw a lot of pitches

    • gregmlb24

      Well Hader threw 14 pitches. Glad they made him work for it tonight.

  112. RedAlert

    Worst front office in MLB by a long shot

  113. Gregmlb

    This reds team is a clown show tonight. Between the Naquin AB, the terrible play by Winker, Suarez being Suarez. That last AB by Votto makes you think he’s borderline autistic. The ump behind the plate is the ring leader. Then of course there’s the Reds BP.

  114. RedsMonk65

    Just not a good night for the Reds. Have not looked good at all. Hope they come to play tomorrow.

  115. Rex

    Brewers went 6-1 vs AZ this year, the Reds 1-5

  116. Roger Garrett

    Just checked back and this game was lost in the first 2 innings.Offense did not do the job.Pitching kept us in the game and will on most nights but when your 2,3,4 and 5 guys don’t put the ball in play with the base loaded you don’t deserve to win.Biggest series of this year and to come out like they did well is awful.We do it again tomorrow.

    • bug

      Yep. It’s the same Reds we saw in the playoffs last year. Chokers in the clutch. Too afraid to even swing. Same ole same ole. A leopard can’t change it’s spots. They play great, until it’s clutch time. Then they don’t even have the courage to swing. Take pitches right down the heart of the plate with men on 3rd and less than 2 outs. I’d take a dribbler or a squibber. I guess a fly ball would be way too much to ask for. Even on a double play ball grounder there would be a chance of an error. But no. The Reds take strikes. Then they whiff. They might get the courage to swing once, and when they do they have a hole in their bats. We’ve got a lot of talent on this team and in the Minors. But we have too many wussies. And that starts at the top. Like I said, the season is over. We needed that game tonight. And we needed to score that first inning. Nick and India did their part. Even Winker’s walk was fine. Then you get to the middle of the order. That’s where the two main chokers (Votto & Suarez) dwell. No chance to score with them coming up. And the third base coach should have sent India home on Nick’s single. The same old Reds. I’ve been watching these same players with the same ineptness for many, many years. It’s a shame to waste some of the young talent we have waiting on a leopard to change his spots. And did I say we need a new manager? We do. I hope my negativity has not hurt too many people’s feelings.

  117. Gpod

    Losing the first game of this 4 game series, all you can hope for now is to come out of the series the same as you went in, at 6 games back

  118. Gregmlb

    Glad to see the guys come out fighting the last 3 innings. They saw those pitchers and just put their tails between their legs and quit.

  119. Bet on Red

    possibly the worst umpired game of the year the reds have been involved in. Nevertheless, the first two innings were critical to this game. Reds got to get them tomorrow. Need to work the phones. I know that teams are hesitant to tear down prior to the all-star break but something should be avalible

  120. Indy Red Man

    Better get 2 of the next 3 or you can forget it. They’re going to get their rock star starters in the 3 gamer after the break. We’re not sweeping in Cincy

  121. Roger Garrett

    One hit in the last 5 innings.Rolled over and gave up.

  122. kevinz

    Stinky tough zone tonight.
    But had chances early on.
    Learn from this Game Reds.
    Onto the next one.

  123. J

    With all the scoring opportunities in this game, Bell never found an opportunity to use a switch-hitter who makes a lot of contact and has a .333 average. Because the *most* important thing every single day is to make sure nobody’ feelings get hurt.

  124. J

    Question: does anyone remember Suarez EVER being lifted for a pinch hitter? I can’t.

  125. Indy Red Man

    The Reds were 29-75 (.387) with 10 hrs off Houser coming in and they didn’t do squat.
    Winker/Nick aren’t hitting like they were and Geno can’t pick up the slack. Votto mostly only rakes at home and Naquin has been average at best since April. Frustrating. India and Tucker keep doing their thing, but they need help.

  126. Mark A Verticchio

    The bottom line now that Winker and Castellanos have come back to earth this is not a very good baseball team. It is time to sell sell sell.

  127. Gpod

    Suarez, no question, worst day at the plate this year….and that’s saying something

  128. earmbrister

    Apparently it’s not a good idea to try to catch a 93 mph FB with your bare hand …

    Who knew?