Wade Miley took a no-hitter 5.2 innings into the game, but Fernando Tatis Jr. hit one of the few mistakes that Miley threw all night a long way to give the Padres a 1-0 lead. The Reds offense could not find a way to get anything going against Padres starter, Joe Musgrove. The Reds did not strike out until the 6th inning, but Musgrove had the Reds off-balance most of the night and got some help from his defense.

The Reds trailed 2-1 in the top of the 9th with two outs. The Padres were 32-0 when they had the lead in the 9th inning. Tyler Stephenson quickly fell behind 0-2, but as he has done all year, fought back in the at-bat. Stephenson ripped a single up the middle to tie the game.

Moments later, Jonathan India had his biggest moment as a Red. India put the Reds ahead with a 2-run home run.

The Reds heroic comeback was short-lived. David Bell burned through his bullpen in Milwaukee to secure the sweep, and that likely made Lucas Sims and Heath Hembree unavailable. Ryan Hendrix and Amir Garrett each gave up 2-run home runs to lose the game for the Reds.

The Reds are now 3.0 games back in the division as the Cubs won tonight.

Final R H E
San Diego Padres (39-32) 6 7 0
Cincinnati Reds (35-32) 4 9 0
W: Johnson (2-2) L: Garrett (0-2)
FanGraphs Win Probability | Statcast | Box Score | Game Thread

Biggest Play of the Game

According to Fangraphs WPA statistic (winning percentage added), the most important play of the game was Jonathan India’s 2-run home run off Mark Melancon, with 2 outs in the 9th inning to give the Reds a 4-2 lead. That play increased the Reds probability of winning by 48.9% (from 43.2% to 92.1%).


Wade Miley gave the Reds another great effort: 7.0 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 BB, 5 K. Miley now has a 2.88 ERA/3.31 FIP on the season.

Jonathan India and Tyler Stephenson continue to cement their names in the NL ROY race. India had 2 hits tonight, and raised his wRC+ to 116. Stephenson just continues to have incredible at-bats, and has mastered the art of fouling off tough pitches. Stephenson now has a 121 wRC+ on the season.

Art Warren got Miley out of a big jam in the 8th with runners on 1st & 2nd, and 0 outs. Warren struck out both Tatis Jr. and Pham in his first ever appearance with inherited runners.

Joey Votto reached base three times (2 hits).


David Bell has seemed to push most of the right buttons lately. I didn’t love his decision to not pinch-hit Miley down 1-0 with 2 outs in the 7th. The Reds only had 7 outs left, and Aristides Aquino was on the bench, one swing away from tying it. This decision is probably different however if Bell has more good relievers. I also really didn’t like his decision to let Kyle Farmer bat in the 9th inning, with the tying run on second base with 1 out. However, I don’t think he made a wrong decision in the bottom of the 9th. Bell said there were a “few guys” unavailable tonight, seeming to refer to Sims and Hembree, and possibly Brach too. The bigger issue is that the Reds don’t have enough quality relievers to go around. They simply have to get Bell more quality options.

Ryan Hendrix now has a 5.68 ERA/5.37 FIP on the season. He walked the leadoff batter in the 9th, up by two runs. That is just inexcusable. The bigger problem is that he probably should not be on the MLB roster and be working on things at AAA, but sadly they just don’t have any better options.

Amir Garrett sort of looked like he might be coming out of it lately. It didn’t happen tonight. He now has a 9.31 ERA/8.07 FIP on the season. I’m just not sure what you can do with him. He is out of options, so you can’t send him to AAA to get things worked out.

Not so random thoughts………………..

Hunter Greene made his first start in AAA. The good news? He hit 104 MPH on the gun and struck out 8 batters over 4.0 innings. The bad news? He gave up 4 bombs.

Manny Machado was playing some crazy shifts tonight. He dove for a ball and slid into the right-field warning track. He is the Padres third baseman.

Despite the loss, that was a really fun baseball game. It is nice to see the Reds in these type of games and fighting until the last out. The Reds have a good team, they are just flawed. They clearly need more quality relievers and a legit big league SS. I hope Bob Castellini will allow the front office to make moves to give this team a real chance. They deserve it.

Up Next:

Reds at Padres
Friday, 10:10 PM
TV: Bally Sports Ohio
Tony Santillan (1.93 ERA) vs Chris Paddack (4.14 ERA)

105 Responses

  1. BatsLeftThrowsRight

    Can’t take much more of Suarez, never gives the team a competitive AB, doesn’t make any adjustments. How can you keep going up there night after night and not change your approach and or make adjustments?

    What major league hitter is hitting in the .160’s and still plays almost every single game?

    The loss freakin’ stings. Hendrix and Garrett get beat on secondary pitchers, both are nibbles who can throw 97 mph, it don’t make any sense….

    • MFG

      Agree, Suarez is our worst hitter as far as a position player is concerned. He needs to SIT. I remember playing baseball when I was a kid and my Dad and coaches would say things like.” Make the batter swing the bat and earn his way on base, you have 8 players on defense to help you”. At the plate they would say “if you have 2 strikes and the pitch is close, swing and give yourself a chance”.

      • Alan Horn

        Agree. He has looked lost at the plate most of the season. I would bring up Lopez and either play him at 3rd or move India to 3rd and play Lopez at 2B. I wold trade 2 of Suarez, Moose and Senzel for whatever I could get. Hopefully, some relief pitchers. Suarez is killing us because he is playing and the other 2 are killing us because they aren’t playing.

      • AllTheHype

        @MFG, Suarez and Moose contracts are under water. Suarez’s contract is WAY under water. You’re not trading that contract without significantly paying it down to the receiving team, and you’re definitely not getting anything of value in return.

      • AllTheHype

        sorry prev response was supposed to be @Alan

      • B-town fan

        The question with Suarez. Is he Dan Uggla, ” from all-star to has-been” as time goes on it looks more and more like he is, unfortunately.

      • MBS

        Farmer is worse, lower OBP, and this is as bad as it can be for Suarez. That’s not an endorsement of Suarez, just pointing out he’s the 2nd worst everyday hitter.

        Also we’re one of the top offenses in baseball, we’re losing games because of pitching. Are starters are taking form, maybe we’ll get lucky with Hoffman in the pen, and a quick return of Antone, and Lorenzen.

  2. RojoB

    “ That play increased the Reds probability of winning by 48.9% (from 43.2% to 92.1%).”

    Does Fangraphs account for the bullpen in those predictions? LOL

  3. RojoB

    I noticed right after Barnhart got back to the dugout after being lifted for pinch runner that he went right to India and started coaching him up on Melancon. His body language looked like Pete Rose saying “he ain’t got nothin he ain’t got nothin!”

    Tucker must have said some magic words!

    • A

      I like both or our catchers. Neither throw that well, but otherwise do a good job behind the plate and are decent hitters.

  4. Sam Williams

    Someone had to lose the game, sad it was the Reds. This loss however makes me very excited for the rest of the season. Seeing two rookies clutch in the 9th inning was special. Come out and beat them tomorrow!


    Reds need an established closer, not sure what they were thinking ??? when they came into the season, without an established closer, closer by committee is really not the way to go, especially with the bad Reds bullpen…and the inconsistency.

    • Rednat

      Things i would like to see.
      1. Shogo starting in cf batting 8. I love having speed on the top and bottom of the lineup.

      2. I want to see Stephenson hitting in that 4 spot more. Even if that means less time for tucker and Votto. I think he is that good of a player.

      3. I know this loss stings but i hope the reds dont tradE any position players for bullpen help. Just always seem like we get the short end of those deals.

      • AllTheHype

        No to first 2. Votto .286/.405/.543 in June since return. Shogo has had 239 PAs in MLB and has slugged .294. That’s horrific. He has “some” value in getting on base, but no more value than league average.

    • TR

      The Reds have a closer combo in Antone and Sims, at least for this year. Last night either one was not available. Now they need to strengthen the rest of the bullpen this year by trade or by bringing up a promising young pitcher.

  6. RojoB

    Upon reflection, the Padres have to know they got away with a big one here.

    The Reds embarrassed the NL saves leader.

    Who exactly did the Padres embarrass? Beating the worst bullpen in the league doesn’t give you bragging rights, no matter how many steps you back up before taking third on a HR trot.

    • RedsMonk65

      I think you’re right. As deflating as the loss was after seemingly snatching victory away from the Padres, the game (how it unfolded in the 9th, especially with the rookies’ performances) gives me a lot of hope. The Padres are one of the best teams in baseball this season thus far–certainly in the NL. The Reds traded punches with them, and almost scored a knockout. Tough loss, but (oddly, perhaps) encouraging, too. The Reds (other than certain bullpen pitchers) have no reason to hang their heads. It was a great game. You lost. Go out and get ’em tonight.


  7. Indy Red Man

    David Ross gets my vote for manager of the year so far, but the Reds are better. The Reds have the best talent in the division and they’re within range, but the front office has to fix some holes. Do it! Now is the time! Castellanos probably isn’t coming back and I doubt they trade him if they’re close so NOW IS THE TIME TO ACT!!

  8. Redhaze

    Sims was not available evidently. Hendrix should not have been out there in that situation. Garrett let an 0-2 pitch get hit for the game winning home run. That pitch should have been out of the strike zone and unhitable. This is pitching 101. This is what you tell middle school players. When it comes to major pressure packed games the Reds do not have a shut down closer. Shortstop defense and a closer are glaring holes on this team. I digress.

    • Westfester

      Reds DO have a shutdown closer but he’s hurt.

      • Redhaze

        Lorenzen can definitely be the closer if he comes back strong but right now there are no guarantees.

  9. Ted Alfred

    Hembree had to be available for 3 outs because he didn’t pitch yesterday….and you can tell by watching him the moment is not too big for him. David Bell chose poorly and it cost the Reds a huge momentum killing game. Hendrix is scared of the big moment and Garret flat out sucks. It is a miracle this team is 3 over .500 with Suarez and Garrrett still…somehow…playing pivotal roles on this team…wow

    • Indy Red Man

      Hembree pitched Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday with 31 pitches on Tues. I’d say he was unavailable.

    • Steven Ross

      You must have missed Hembree pitching Thursday in Milwaukee. 31 pitches. He was gased. What’s Bell supposed to do when Sims and Hembree aren’t available?

    • RedsMonk65

      He really didn’t have many other options. Sims, Hembree, and Brach (and Antone, obviously) were all unavailable. See the interesting graph Nick included with his story (I like that — it helps!). Warren was used earlier. So, it was Hendrix, Garrett, or Doolittle. (Not sure about Goudeau?) No good options there.

  10. GreatRedLegsFan

    Bell has got the best out of such limited bullpen lately. With Sims and Hembree unavailable, there were so few options left. Nevertheless, nor Hendrix neither Garrett should had come in the 9th but rather in the 8th, leaving Warren or even Brach for the 9th. Tough call on Garrett, if Reds wish to continue in the race, for sure cannot rely upon him and/or Doolittle as the only lefty options.

    • Michael Armstrong

      They pinch-hit for Warren, so he was no longer available. But he has been nails for the Reds in a limited role so far.

      • Michael Armstrong

        Whoops, I re-read your post. I, too, would have preferred Warren in the big spot.

    • RedsMonk65

      Yes, I agree, I think. Seeing Warren in the 9th would have been better than Hendrix (inexperienced in those types of situations) and Garrett (who is erratic and undependable).

  11. Melvin

    Good job Nick and thanks. You’re correct. Same old thing all year. Need bullpen help and a real SS. I was thinking the same thing when Farmer came up, “Do we not have anyone better than Farmer right here”? As I’ve said recently, even if the Reds want to go with Farmer the rest of the year, he’s hasn’t played on a regular basis in forever. He’s a prime candidate for a break down sooner or later. Better have a plan….like it or not….that doesn’t include Suarez.

  12. Mike

    If you don’t address a problem ,it will remain a problem! This is a gritty team ,hard nosed battlers, who get undermined by the worst bullpen in baseball. They have done amazing despite there bullpen, and despite Bob Castellini. Mr Castellini should be embarrassed .he’s kicked the stool out from beneath them .this team deserves and have earned bullpen help. Fellow reds fans help me understand be cause I’m confused why were getting no help.if I’m Nick Castellonas seeing this clustermess I’m already packing. Another question for my fellow reds fans. As an mlb team owner how is it okay to totally ignore your ss position. These players derive better ,less alone the fans.

    • RedsMonk65

      I share your frustration, as do many others in Reds country.

  13. Ryan

    I just got home from this game and I cannot tell you how amazing it was on Padres re-opening night, 40k+ fans going dead silent when Stevenson hit that single to bring in Tucker to tie and then India crushed their hopes and dreams…so we thought. We had Padre fans all around us congratulating us after the HR, it was so wild and then it all crumbled. Regardless of the outcome, this is a fun team to watch and I’m grateful for that.

    What shouldn’t be lost is the Pete Rose level hustle that Barnhart exhibited to get to 2nd base on his hit that made it all possible. Again, the end was heartbreaking but this team is too fun to watch and would be even more fun if we traded for Story at SS and Bard at CL from Colorado who is going nowhere.

    • Doc4uk

      I think Garrett has become a distraction and needs to be DFAed. Doolittle as well. Neither can pitch to contact and always seem to have control issues and get behind in the count consistently. Bring up Lodolo and let him be the lefty . He will have plenty of time to be stretched into a starter in spring training

      Bring up Barrero and see what he can do Bet he will hit for a higher average than Farmer.

      Bring up Lopez as well and see if he can play second moving India to his original position of third base.

      Suarez to the bench . Farmer as well. Time to see what the future holds Winker went through this same trial by fire and we might as well do the same with Barrero and Lopez who has been our best minor league bats so far.

      • AllTheHype

        Starting to agree on Garrett. It’s hard to see him recovering enough value to even be tendered in 2022, where he’ll be arb2, and it’s also hard to see him being anything but relief filler on this team the rest of the year. So why not cut bait now?

      • Doc

        Is that the same Lodolo who is sidelined for the second time with a finger blister on his pitching hand? Just how is a pitcher who can’t currently pitch going to help this team?

    • RojoB

      I have seen Story up close this year and no thank you–for the money. The Reds have similar performers this season

  14. doofus

    Earth to the Red’s FO/Ownership, GET A REAL SS!!!!

    • Pablo

      Hey Bob Castellini, you reportedly are an accomplished businessman. When there is a glaring deficiency in your business, do you just sit back in your leather chair and hope it fixes itself?? Negative ghost rider, you take action! Your stockholders (aka fans) are waiting…….

  15. JB

    Astros are looking at Brad Peacock and Roberto Asuna. Asuna is only 26 and a closer that’s in the Mexican league. Go get him and the closer role is his. That would close the door on the back end. Stop being cheap Castellini because your team can win the division and can hang with the good teams . Rediculous how games are thrown away due to his tight wallet. Winning puts butts in the seat Bob.

    • Doc

      If Asuna is such a stud closer, why is he pitching in the Mexican League?

      • JB

        Not the best reputation but hey beggars camt be choosers. Also was thought to have what was once believed to be a partially torn UCL was actually a “forearm strain.” Contract shouldn’t be alot for 1/2 season but then again Bob is tight.

  16. Klugo

    The 4 pitch walk to Machado was a bad sign, but so was watching Hendrix shake Stephenson off after he had just held his hand through an out the hitter before. Don’t do that, rook.

    • RojoB

      Ball 2 could have easily been strike one, and the count 1-1 transforms the at bat.

      The ump waffled on that pitch all game, so i am ok with that–because he “consistently waffled”–called some both ways for both teams.

      But that’s a small thing and no excuse for rabbit disease (nibbling)

  17. Hotto4Votto

    As good of a run as the bullpen has had, you knew it was only a matter of time. Nick is exactly right when he writes that Bell needs better options. The bullpen and SS were known weak areas going into the season and throughout the offseason (though the bullpen was actively weakened by the FO). If they want to give this Reds team the chance to compete they got to fix those weaknesses.
    Kudos to Joey, Tucker and the rookies for making it an exciting 9th and fighting to the end.

  18. amdg

    “deflated by bullpen meltdown”?

    I’m not sure Garrett pitching like Garrett counts as a meltdown.

    Since the 2019 trade deadline, he’s got an ERA above 4.00 and a 1.34 WHIP, and that’s not even adding in his 2021 numbers.

    Unfortunately he’s proven over that span he just not a good pitcher, and unfortunately the Reds don’t seem to have many better options.

    • RojoB

      I call missing down and in to Hosmer by Hendrix a meltdown

      Garrett, afterwards, I agree not a meltdown, just a matter of course

  19. Yolanda

    Can someone explain why Garrett can’t be sent down to Louisville? Why is he on the mound with his lack of control?

    • Westfester

      He has no options remaining, meaning the Reds would have to DFA him. Other teams will jump at the opportunity to claim a power lefty arm, no matter how wild he tends to be.

      • Yolanda

        Let another team suffer losses then! He isn’t helping the Reds on or off the field.

      • AllTheHype

        Doubt any other team claims Garrett @ 1.5M with no option.

      • RojoB

        If they claim, then Reds can work a trade–they don’t have to give him up for nothing.

        They should be testing that waiver wire yesterday

  20. Roger Garrett

    We know where the holes are at and until they are fixed they will remain.We have pen help available and short stop help as well and help at third.Reds just waiting I guess for Antone and Hoffman and Mikey along with Senzel and Moose to fix the pen and have options at third.Shortstop fix is just a phone call away to the minors.Also when Sonny gets back we get better in the pen.Appears we are just threading water and waiting and while we wait we have an improbable win turn in a really bad bad loss.

  21. Old Big Ed

    They are due to get Antone and Hoffman into the bullpen within a few days, plus Lorenzen in a few weeks. There aren’t likely to be any arms out there that are any better.

    Jose DeLeon at Louisville seems to be getting better, or as has been said “He’s had spurts of consistency.” Over the last month, he’s thrown 6.1 IP, and given up 3 hits, 2 walks, 1 run (a HR last night in Omaha), and has 11 strikeouts. I don’t know if he has been sparingly used because of an injury, or if he’s been doing a lot of side work.

    There may have been an reverse Samson effect with DeLeon — his haircut being so bad that he can’t pitch with it — but I’d get a buzz cut if I were him. Josh Donaldson is the only guy I’ve seen who could actually perform with that bad of a haircut.

    • VaRedsFan

      Castillo could use some clippers too

  22. Jim t

    Tough one to lose for sure. After battling back against the league saves leader to give it back in the bottom of the inning was a killer. Hopefully we can put this one behind us and start a new streak tonight. I can’t stop thinking if we had Lorenzen and TJ at this point we would be much better. The good news is they are not far off.

    • ohiojimwalker

      I hope you are correct about Lorenzen and Antone; but, many decades of watching baseball lead me to believe that counting on pitchers trying to come back within the season from injury directly involving their pitching arm/shoulder is often a road to bankruptcy.

      I like Antone’s chances of being able to contribute in spurts punctuated by short breaks such as he is on now. I am much less optimistic about Lorenzen. He has always been a favorite of mine; but, I’ll believe when I see it that he can miss half the season then jump in and immediately be a difference maker in a tight playoff race.

      • doofus

        Agree, I do not see Antone or Lorenzen being contributors this season.

      • RojoB

        Your point, Jim about not counting on guys to come back reminds me so painfully of 2013 and “Ryan Ludwick will save us all when he returns!”

        And it was this dumb thinking that must have led them to let Marlon Byrd pass them by on the waiver wire for a mere $100K, letting him go to the Pirates. Byrd homered against the Reds in the Wild Card game.

        That really stuck in my craw.

        And later the Reds traded away Ben Lively to the Phillies to get Byrd on the team for the 2015 season.

  23. Indy Red Man

    India has a 1.012 ops in June! I think the Reds finally scored on a 1st rounder! The 1st pick in 2018 Casey Mize is pretty good, but I wouldn’t take any of the top 4 over India!

    Now to Suarez? At what point do they go another direction? Or atleast give him an extended breather. How bout India to 3B and Lopez to 2B until Moose gets back. Or Freeman at 3B? He has a solid minor league resume. Players are human and of course Suarez wants to succeed, but there is usually a thought pattern like “Hey, I made it. I’m a starter and I’ve got a big contract. They’re going to play me.”

    Sometimes you have to blow up that illusion. This is a sport, but its also a business!
    I knew he wasn’t going to hit Musgrove. He’s 1 for his last 12 with 6 more Ks. Do something different?

    • Indy Red Man

      Or Schrock? Don’t know how far away he is?

      • Indy Red Man

        When Schrock got hurt he was on a 6-14 streak with 2 doubles, triple, and HR. Lifetime .300 average in the minors. He’s got a nice swing!

        The Reds have a chance to put together a really relentless lineup, but they can’t quite get it done.

      • ohiojimwalker

        Shrock could suffer from being a LH bat on a team that is borderline too LH with Moose already in the wings ahead of him in the pecking order. RH hitting pop is Castellanos and if not Suárez then who? Naquin (or Winker) would have to sit to get Aquino in. Barnhart (or Votto) sit for more of Stephenson. 3B or/ and SS need to be contributing RH bats given the current personnel mix.

    • ohiojimwalker

      I think Moose is moving to the category that he will be back when we see him back and do not make any interim or short term moves hinging on his return.

      • Alan Horn

        17 million a year down the drain. At least Votto is hitting pretty good. Most of his outs are hard hit balls.

      • Indy Red Man

        Moose was a horrible signing. He’s a decent player, but they were already top heavy with lefty hitters? Lifetime ops .753 is about average. Naquin’s career ops is .773 and nobody is giving him a fortune.

      • JB

        The moose signing was desperation by the front office to put fannys in the stands and make the playoffs. When no other team wants to sign him past a year the Reds give him 4.

      • RojoB

        @JB you’re dead on.

        Smoke and mirrors to dupe casuals into thinking the Reds cared about a championship instead of their bottom line

        An argument can be made that signing Shogo was the same

    • VaRedsFan

      They should start with a 3 game benching, like they did with Votto last year. Then give him one more shot to be productive. If not, then move on

  24. Mark Browning

    We would be in first place in the division if Garrett could hold leads in the ninth! Give up on him please he doesn’t have the skill to be put in that position!

  25. VaRedsFan

    I wrote in the bullpen article yesterday not to get too excited about success against the road Rockies and the light-hitting/injured Brewers. The guys that were getting it done, (Sims, Hembree, and Brach) weren’t available though, and they had to try to get it done with bottom of the barrel guys. Hurry back Tejay!

  26. jsleee

    Why would a coach put a rookie pitcher (Hendrix) to save this game? Against the Padres even. makes no sense to me.

    • Indy Red Man

      The other guys were used heavily vs Milwaukee. AG has experience and was a little better recently. I would’ve used him from the beginning (and still lost) or maybe even warm up Vlad for 1 inning. Don’t starters throw at a decent effort between starts anyway? Lock down a key win and move on. They have a day off next week and should have reinforcements soon enough. Oh well.

    • JB

      I thought the same with Hendrix. Thsts not a great spot to put him in especially with the first packed stadium of the year he has seen. I would have started AG off the inning with a clean slate. He seems to do better in that situation. I dont understand why Goodrau?( not sure on spelling) is in the bullpen. Diehl in AAA is a lefty and having a good season. Antone, Hoffman and Lorenzen coming back puts Garrett on borrowed time along with Doolittle.

      • ohiojimwalker

        Diehl is not on the 40 man roster per the official team website. Putting him on would create a sunken cost for him and mean paying out a sunken cost for someone else. Is this why he doesn’t get a look? We have no way of knowing but given how they’ve pinched pennies who is to say it isn’t either.

      • JB

        Oh I guarantee that’s why he hasnt gotten a look. I knew he wasnt on the 40 but 32 year old catcher in AAA Taylor is on it I believe still. Why I have no idea. This front office loves shopping at flea markets.

  27. Scott Emory

    Simple question: How do the Reds justify Amir Garrett still having a roster spot?

  28. DataDumpster

    The Reds lost a tough one but they shouldn’t be too upset about it. The fight and contributions from the rookies are very good things that seem well established now. The bullpen is due for a letdown after a week of good work. They are still in a good run as of now.
    But, why does Garrett throw over to first three times in a row before delivering the 0-2 pitch that got smacked for the game winner? His head and Suarez as well seems to be a little been wide of the foul line. A good trade or shifting of personnel needs to be done before the deadline. I wouldn’t count on Lorenzen or Moose to do anything above mediocre for the rest of the season. Mikey will probably press too hard and Moose hasn’t ever shown much of a reason to be.

  29. DataDumpster

    The Reds lost a tough one but they shouldn’t be too upset about it. The fight and contributions from the rookies are very good things that seem well established now. The bullpen is due for a letdown after a week of good work. They are still in a good run as of now.
    But, why does Garrett throw over to first three times in a row before delivering the 0-2 pitch that got smacked for the game winner? His head and Suarez as well seems to be a little been wide of the foul line. A good trade or shifting of personnel needs to be done before the deadline. I wouldn’t count on Lorenzen or Moose to do anything above mediocre for the rest of the season. Mikey will probably press too hard and Moose hasn’t ever shown much of a reason to be.

  30. JB

    I try to stay positive and give people a chance to show that they are improving but I’m at the end with Suarez. I love the guy and pray he gets a hit every time he comes up but even I am getting to the point of maybe they need to try somebody else. Standing there watching a perfect fastball come right down broadway and watching it go by was another head scratcher. The guy is guessing big time and basically does every at bat. I mean dude, if you’re going to wait on a pitch then at least wait for the fastball. I feel more comfortable with Freeman at the plate.

    • TR

      Suarez is frustrating without a doubt. But he is a proven third baseman and a ML hitter before the 2020 pandemic, the weight loss and the move to shortstop. I’m sure if he’s on the trade block they’ll be no lack of suitors. Eugenio turns 30 next month. It might be time to make a change this offseason.
      Third base is Senzel’s natural position, and if he’s in good physical shape, it’s a place to get this former #1 draft pick in the regular lineup.

    • RojoB

      “I mean dude, if you’re going to wait on a pitch then at least wait for the fastball.”

      That at bat against Melancon was telling, was it not?

  31. RedsMonk65

    “The Reds have a good team, they are just flawed. They clearly need more quality relievers and a legit big league SS. I hope Bob Castellini will allow the front office to make moves to give this team a real chance.”


  32. shawn s sexton

    I don’t care what options they have or do not have with players – put your best team on the field! Period. The Reds best team does not include Suarez or Garrett. The Reds do those players less of a favor than they do the team and the fans by playing them. Let them sort it out in AAA for the love of God.

    • Jimbo44CN

      My thoughts exactly. Time for those two to depart.
      Can Aquino play third? (Sort of kidding as he would be probably the biggest 3B ever, but desperate times call for desperate measures!)

      • RojoB

        Scott Rolen is 6’4″, same height at Aquino.
        Kris Bryant is 6’5″

        So what I’m saying is Aquino to third!

        No only kidding

  33. MBS

    We need to trade Naquin now, and get an arm for the pen. That’s the biggest hole we have. Everyone is upset with Suarez and Farmer (rightly so) but our pen is losing games for us, not our offense.

    Fix the biggest issue (Bullpen) with your deepest strength (OF)

    • Old Big Ed

      The Yankees need a LH-hitting outfielder, and have some bullpen arms, even if their own fans are moaning about their bullpen.

      The Yankees need hitting of any stripe, but they especially need LH hitting. Naquin fits them, although I can certainly see the argument that the Reds don’t need to give up his bat.

      • ohiojimwalker

        I’d try my best to interest the Yanks or anyone else in Akiyama ahead of Naquin. Getting his money off the books (remainder of this year and next; about $12M as of today) could make the difference in getting a higher quality reliever. Sending half the $$$ money with him could even be a big help.

      • Old Big Ed

        I agree on that, Jim, but I doubt the Yankees want Akiyama, and I think that Naquin’s contract would be worth more in return.

      • MBS

        That’s my thinking @old. I don’t want to lose Naquin, but we’re not going to get a good return without giving up something for it.

  34. Don

    watched game today, great comeback and grit in the top of 9th by Barnhart, Stephenson and India.

    To bad bullpen gave up 4 in bottom of 9th.
    Pobody’s Nerfect.

    Ended one 6-game win streak, time to start another tonight.

  35. LGR

    Bring up Alejo. Mans a on base machine. I’d take his bat over Farmer’s or Suarez’s anyday. And if you’re going to play Suarez, let him hit in front of the pitcher. He may get less to hit that way, but that’s fine. If they make a mistake to him, he still has his solo home run potential. Go out and trade for Richard Rodriguez. Go look at John King from the Rangers. Hell, ask what they’d want for King and Gallo. Imagine Gallo’s OBP and HR ability in GABP. Would make that lineup deep.

  36. Max BRAGG

    All these scenarios are fine,but the GM has NO IDEA. YANKEES need left handed hitting OF,and they have all kinds of lefthanded relievers why not call them or send SHOGO!

  37. James Bellini

    I like the idea of trading Naquin for a reliever because he has the most value at this time and we have very little invested in him. I also like the idea of benching Geno for a week so that maybe he appreciates the opportunity more. Just to see if it makes a difference in his approach. The rub is that we need Moose back first so we do not lose to much offense all at once.