The Cincinnati Reds will look to keep up their winning ways tonight as they begin a 4-game series against the San Diego Padres at 8:40pm ET.
Starting Lineups
Cincinnati Reds
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San Diego Padres
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| Jonathan India – 2B | Tommy Pham – LF |
| Jesse Winker – LF | Fernando Tatis Jr. – SS |
| Nick Castellanos – RF | Trent Grisham – CF |
| Tyler Naquin – CF | Manny Machado – 3B |
| Joey Votto – 1B | Wil Myers – RF |
| Eugenio Suarez – 3B | Eric Hosmer – 1B |
| Tucker Barnhart – C | Jake Cronenworth – 2B |
| Kyle Farmer – SS | Victor Caratini – C |
| Wade Miley – SP | Joe Musgrove – SP |
Starting Pitchers
Wade Miley
Through 11 starts it’s been the Wade Miley show for Cincinnati. He’s had one poor start, in Colorado, but otherwise has been fantastic. His ERA on the year sits at 2.92 through 61.2 innings while allowing just three home runs, 17 walks, and he’s struck out 51 batters.
Teams don’t run many lefties about against Miley – they’ve only had 39 plate appearances against him this season. They are hitting just .189/.231/.189 against him in those opportunities. Righties have been far more successful, but they aren’t exactly finding much success with a .226/.280/.342 line on the season against the left-handed starter.
Pitch usage from 2021
| 4-Seam | 2-Seam | Cutter |
Curve | Change | |
| Velo | 89.9 | 88.2 | 85.4 | 75.1 | 81.5 |
| Usage | 16.6% | 1.3% | 49.3% | 4.4% | 28.5% |
Joe Musgrove
One of the better pitchers in the National League this season, Joe Musgrove has a 2.50 ERA through 13 games. In his 72.0 innings he’s allowed just 46 hits, walked 14 batters, and he’s struck out 96 of them.
Musgrove throws everything, including the kitchen sink. His six pitches are mixed and matched well and he doesn’t lean on any of them enough to give a hitter an idea that they could sit on any of them. Lefties have had more success against him this season – almost exclusively because they’ve had some power output against him – as they’ve posted a .186/.253/.386 line with seven home runs. Righties are hitting just .165/.224/.252 against him this season with just two home runs.
Pitch usage from 2021
| 4-Seam | 2-Seam | Cutter |
Change | Slider | Curve | |
| Velo | 93.4 | 92.9 | 90.3 | 86.9 | 84.0 | 82.0 |
| Usage | 17.2% | 6.3% | 19.0% | 8.0% | 30.6% | 18.8% |
When and Where
- Game time: 8:40pm ET
- Where: Petco Park, San Diego
- Watch: Bally Sports Ohio, MLB.tv
- Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
- Forecast: 71°, Sunny, and perfect. Come on, it’s San Diego.
News and Notes
Mike Moustakas is back in a walking boot
Mike Moustakas was taken off his rehab assignment. He's back in a boot and he'll be reevaluated in a week.
— C. Trent Rosecrans (@ctrent) June 17, 2021
NL Central Standings
Playoff odds via Fangraphs
| Team | W | L | GB | Playoff % |
| Brewers | 38 | 30 | 0 | 60.7% |
| Cubs | 38 | 30 | 0 | 35.1% |
| Reds | 35 | 31 | 2.0 | 24.0% |
| Cardinals | 35 | 33 | 3.0 | 13.7% |
| Pirates | 23 | 44 | 14.5 | 0.0% |
How the Cubs have 25% less chance at the playoffs with the same record as the Brewers confuses me greatly, but i guess i dont know the methodology.
Anyway… Go Reds!
I think the Cubs key guys are all FAs next year so they’re expected to be sellers instead of buyers.
Remaining schedule, maybe, too.
Brewers have better pitching
It’s based on projecting the rest of the season based on what their players are expected to do. The projection systems like the Brewers players a lot more and they are projected to win 3 more games than the Cubs moving forward, which makes the difference in the projected playoff odds.
Ok cool, they’re using player projections to determine their record. Thanks, I was too lazy at the time I commented to look it up.
Reds will need the bats to wake up some this series. Hoping for a split!
I’d wager 3 of 4. I’m just not sure which way it falls. I think the Reds can surprise the Padres but they have to be on. They have to hit better than the last two games. The Padres aren’t the Brewers. My guess is they’ll hit.
I think there are other variables contained in the formula for projecting not just wins and loses
What is Shogo’s role on this team?
Insurance till the next injury
Reds depth is helping them survive and now advance. Other teams are falling like flies due to injury
As they say, win the first one and you can’t be swept.
¡Vamanos Los Rojos!
“71 Sunny and perfect . Cmon its San Diego” thats funny
Im ok with Farmer playing SS in the short term but its looking like Moose is out till the All Star break at least. Hes in a boot on June 17th.
Galvis would be super cheap
Iglesias would be my choice and would really be a huge asset to this team. Garcia is the future but hes not ready yet.
Go reds
Nice win yesterday heading into this 4-game series with the Padres! IMO the keys to winning each game in this series is to continue the strong pitching (starters & RP), limiting the walks and score early! More importantly, need to be mindful of the Padre’s best hitter, Tatis, Jr.and minimize the impact of his hits as he will get his share of hits. And as much as possible avoid putting runners on base ahead of Tatis’ at bats! Fairly confident of at least a split of the series as 3 of the 4 pitchers the Reds are facing have losing records. Musgrove has been inconsistent since his No-No in April. Bigger challenge will scoring against Yu Darvish on Sunday! In any event let’s win Game 1, Go Reds!
I’d rather not be catching SD on such a cold streak. They’re going to be fired up for this series! I’d take 2-2 all day.
RLN was big on pushing our starters so we’ll soon see how that plays out? Some teams are going w/6 starters and we’ll be pushing guys on the 5th day after throwing 100 pitches:
Miley 103
Gutierrez 110
Castillo 109
Mahle 107
We’ll see what happens? In the old days that was nothing, but I’d guess Tampa doesn’t push their starters much past 90?
Hunter Greene gave up back to back to back HRs in AAA debut.
Correction, he had 1 K between those. Let’s add a little seasoning shall we?
I would love to see him in the bullpen at some point, but he needs to prove himself in AAA first.
Lodolo is older and left-handed so I’d rather see him with the Reds first. I’m thinking vintage Andrew Miller!
Right, that’s why he needed to go to AAA. AA guys weren’t challenging him. He will have to step up his game, with having to face more professional hitters.
Was that their all-star SS who muffed that play?
Made up for it …
Hit-n-run would’ve same them a dp there. Winker saw a ton of pitches and wasn’t going to K. Even if he did India might get the steal on a breaking ball anyway.
Rockies 5-0 on Milw in the first….lollllllllllllll
Braves no – hitting the cards.
Goal for this road trip is bury the cards in 4th place and get even with brewers and cubs
Braves no – hitting the cards.
Goal for this road trip is bury the cards in 4th place and get even with brewers and cubs
Rockies have lost a lot of games where had big leads early in the game!
Cards down 3-0 to the Braves after 6 innings as well
Down 2-0 in gabp. Maybe thats why we’re winning on the road
21-pitch 1st inning for Miley! Hoping for at least 6 innings tonight from the crafty lefty!
The 9 pitch 2nd bodes well
Got to love that. Ultimate small ball.
Miley not really the guy you want to see when you’re slumping. I’m sure they’d rather see a guy that challenges them.
Suarez .204 in June. Even though his Ks are way down, he’s still rarely barreling a ball up. That pitch last inning looked hittable. I don’t know what they’re going to do with him long term, but I’m tired of defending him. And SS? No way
“I’m tired of defending him”
Everyone has their breaking point.
+500
Suarez lack of production is baffling. The long term answer is play him, he’s not going anywhere, and the Reds will never bench that much money. Maybe if Suarez turns things around, he’d be tradeable again, but then why would you want to trade an affordable quality player.
Between a rock and a hard place for sure.Big money teams would trade him and eat some salary but the Reds won’t do that.He is an all or nothing hitter since he hit 49 homers in 2019.I am not sure if he will able to return to the solid hitter he once but all of us hope he does because it makes the team better.
I think if we had an abundance of offensively productive infielders (like we do with outfielders) they *might* bench that much money.
I want to believe that and see no reason to think otherwise : D
Naquin must needs quit swinging at breaking balls down and in.
Wade Miley! The new Louisiana Lightning….move over Ron Guidry))
Grounded out to position #10 – Short Fielder/Rover
Wade has the Hulk tattoo magic through 4 innings
And Sadak can’t help but talk about it! I find that so annoying, he ignores the custom of most fans, and all players.
I have sound muted. Thank goodness
eh, I personally never really liked that custom, but I’m not really a superstitious type.
GET A REAL SHORTSTOP!!!!!!!
I am so tired of listening to these clowns cover for Kyle Farmer. I am sure that he is a fine young man, but he IS a utility player!!!!!!!
For my own (so called) sanity the mute button comes in handy during these situations.
I think I will watch the rest of the game on mute.
Is it just me, or is that ballpark HUGE??
I’m not a Padres fan, but I want one of those hats, looks sharp!
What happened to those 10-run games over the past two weeks?
Musgrove
Reds struggle all the time on the road to score runs and if weren’t for great pitching in Mil and again tonight we would be in trouble for 3 games in a row.Just hard when your guy is no hitting the other team and our offense is asleep again.Got to scratch across some runs some how or this great effort by Miley will be wasted.Lets see what happens.Go Reds and Go Miley.
Wade is dealing. We’ll ride it however long it lasts. But we need a couple crooked numbers here. Would be a great way to start the road trip.
And even with as fast as Miley works, I can’t stay up late for another game on a “school night”. I end up waking up about the regular time and then the next day is a real challenge.
I feel your pain! I hate these west coast games! I have to bail out soon as well as I have to get up at 6:30 am to be at work by 8 am.
Anyone against exercising Reds $10 mil option 2022 for Wade Miley?
Certainly not me!
I think teams have discovered Naquin’s weakness at the plate.
Slow with some break seems to mess him up.He will have to adjust and I believe he will cause he is not an all or nothing hitter.
How many guys throw 60% breaking balls though and have the movement of Musgrove? Shogo would’ve made alot of sense tonite. Freeman > Suarez or Farmer tonite too. Musgrove smothers righties
Mets shut out on 2 hits. Cards shut out on 3 hits. These last 2 games were close and fun, but if I wanted to watch a bunch of useless attempts at scoring then I’d watch soccer or go observe at a singles bar))
Universal DH – Check
Ban Shift – Check
Move the mound back a foot – Under consideration
Indy- you beat me to the punch
I dont want soccer ties either
amen brother
Reds Hot!!!! Yet scores 3 runs in 25 innings
Made playoffs and didn t score in 2games with extra innings. Chris Welsh gave great interview. If you cheat and break the rules with foreign substances- Somethings wrong if you complain
DH yes. Shift maybe. Lower the mound, absolutely. Move mound back…on the fence
Time for Suarez to do the thing he likes to do – swing for the fences and actually connect.
Alas the other thing he really likes to do
Very, very shabby at bat for #7
Musgrove says here hit it and we can’t.
Suarez never swung at a pitch did he?If so how can that be tolerated?
He probably though he was going to see trash breaking balls after two strikes. Nobody fears him and he needs to start being aggressive, he’s got nothing else to lose at this point.
Ouch. Tatis, Jr. is pretty good.
“ Tatis, Jr. is pretty good…at looking a clown rounding third after his HR”
Made an adjustment to your post.
I know, if you don’t want to see it don’t let him hit HR. I would only like it if he played for the Reds though.
Your last sentence is the kicker. You would only like it if he played for the Reds. I didn’t “see” the home run as I don’t have TV but I can appreciate his talent. I don’t really care if he went around the bases doing back flips and cartwheels. He’s a talent that I would love having on my team.
Lefty on deck? Cmon man? The one guy that you can’t let beat you.
I was hoping I wouldn’t have to see that clown show around the bases tonight but alas
+500
No hitter gone,shutout gone and ball game over.You right Indy just can’t let Tatis make the difference but this game is on the offense or lack of.Reds lucked out against the Brew Crew and their bad bad offense but we will have to score to beat the Pads.
Tatis got just enough of a high FB out of the zone. Great pitch, Tatis just got enough of it.
Hmmm. You said the game was over the other day when it wasn’t and the Reds ended up winning. There’s a reason they play the full 9 innings.
Have to tap out (not actually Clete-ing). It’s late here in The Old North State.
Here’s hoping we can battle back with something and I see happy numbers in the morning.
In an earlier post I cautioned about Tatis, Jr. and the fact that he is the most dangerous hitter in the Padre lineup! Regardless, the Reds need to put up a crooked number soon!
Crooked? I’d take 1 and get to the 10th, but everything looking Oval tonite.
Thats why I quit watching last year. I never 1 inning of their late winning streak. I got tired of no offense
Great at bat and hit by Barney
Stinkin’ shift
Shift sucks offense out of the game again. NFL is King and they opened up the game to allow more offense. Take notes!
This is unwatchable baseball. Eugenio suarez and kyle farmer at 3b and SS are unwatchable and why reds aren in first place by 5 games.
How? By not allowing players to rip a unprotected players head off? They didn’t give the offense extra players or secret maneuvers.
I’m with you on lack of offense in mlb, but football offense is only good because the game has shifted to a pass heavy league.
For those paying attention the Padres have only one (1) hit off of Miley! Unfortunately it was a HR by Tatis, Jr. Point is, Miley has done his job! Time for the Reds hitters to step it up!
Somebody please issue an APB for the Reds offense!
APB to suarez for no show at 3b since 2019 and APB to nick krall/Reds FO for no plan at ss since Wayne Krivsky
Totally agree. Trade him for a SS. This game and the division are both winnable.
This Musgrove guy is pretty good too. They haven’t seen a pitcher that throws their timing off from the right side lately. The closest has been the lefty Lauer. They really couldn’t hit him either.
I think it’s a dose of reality to what the lineup can expect to do or not do against playoff pitching.
Still doesn’t take away the fun of the last 2 weeks for me though—this time
Well we’ll try them tomorrow. Need 2 of 3 to stay in range!
Well- if SD leaves Musgrove in for the 8th maybe the Reds will get him measured too
Padres have gotten the measure of Miley (just a little)
2 solo HR. C’mon offense!
Shift hurts but so has launch angle and punch outs don’t matter.Pitchers have got better and hitters haven’t adjusted and won’t because the long ball rules.Suarez says he wants to hit 50 homers and he may.He also may set the record for strikeouts which is more probable.Don’t even need anybody on the right side of the diamond when he comes up including the right fielder.Not picking on him its just the way the game is and the way the players play it.MLB may wind the ball tighter so it goes farther or lower the mound or change the strike zone to get more scoring.We shall see.
New pitcher. New life
Thats stupid! I’m not rooting for season ending injuries but double ILs is ok by me
Same as Rizzo coming in 20 feet from the hitter on a bunt. A liner off the knee and some spaghetti would end that real quick. It ruins the integrity of the game?
I’m glad Machado missed it.
I’m disappointed that Cast swung at the first pitch. I’m disappointed that Naquin hit it right at someone, but he did hit it hard.
If they can keep it to 2 runs there’s a chance in the 9th
Interesting opportunity for Warren. He can get himself in the late-game rotation with a good performance here.
It’s go time, no doubt
That’ll do, Art.
Way to step up!
Not sure what was gained by letting Miley go out for the 8th but Warren got the job done.Guy throws strikes and throws gas.Both play.
Votto-Suarez-Farmer for the 9th doesn’t inspire much hope. Especially since 2-0 may not be the hurdle.
Still 2-0 and Tatis pulled one, so Suárez may pull one too.
Joey get on base!
Thank you Joey
Suárez pulled something all right lol.
I guess I’m going to have to cut JV a little slack since he broke his hand. Suarez, not so much. Stephenson needs to play – a lot
Suárez looking breaking ball so he lets a fat one go
SMH
Some bat trips to the dish for #7 today. Guessing guessing guessing
Or bad trips even
I wish Suarez the best and we need him but its going to be a long summer if this continues.Just hard to justify in my mind to continue to play him hoping he gets better.Guess with Moose and Senzel both out we have to ride him but boy oh boy.
O M G
Tyler Steve is a hitter. 🙂
Rookies stepping up big.
W O W
Why do people keep saying this game is over? “You Gotta Believe “
Well- it is over just in the direction we like!
WOW
You know, i’m always extra excited when Mark Melancon gets embarrassed
Makes the tie extra extra sweet
And as i’m typing India sees that curve that Barnhart warned him of in the dugout and goes Tatis on it lol
Roooookieeees! 🙂
Well shut my mouth we ain’t don yet.The rookie ties it up at 2-2.
Rookies baby.
Wooohoo baby.
Woo bat-flippin’ hoo!!!!!
Love it for sure.
Got to close this out though.
Cross fingers.
Stephenson and India are showing why they were top picks
Cut from a different cloth
YYYYYEEESSSSS!!!! Bye Bye Melancon. Love these REDS.
Wow, these Reds are HOT!
Man, I tune into mlb.com at 1-2 with 2 outs. Walk away from my phone and suddenly it’s 4-2.
GO REDS!!!
Never mind
Sims has to be out I would think. Hembree or AG?
Again shut my mouth and call me whatever you want to.The rookies have made it 4-2.
Roger I know you’re glad to eat crow right here, and this time it probably tastes like filet mignon my friend!
Yes for sure buddy.
Now—this shows us how good of a game Musgrove was pitching
I was about to blow a gasket when he didn’t pinch hit for Farmer. Shogo could hit better then Farmer blindfolded
Same here until they said lefties only hit .103 against him.
Yeah but Joey/Tucker were 2-2 when its Farmer vs Shogo then it doesn’t matter
Incredible!!!! This is fun! Let’s finish them off. What a run this team is on.
This is some amazing stuff, gentlemen. Now it’s Ryan Hendrix for the save!
Amazing may not be the word but I can’t think of an another one so yeah its AMAZING.
Are you kidding me?!
Let’s close it out now…
To show you how far I was off I thought Shogo at least for Farmer and if not him at least for the pitcher.Wrong wrong wrong and if we can steal this one I can be wrong tomorrow and the next day and so on
Come on Hendrix. Strikes.
It’s now like extra innings. Get the batter.
Too late
Padres playing smart baseball and take away the DP.
Was Votto told not to hold Machado or was that on his own?
Welp doesn’t matter. 4-4
Not Ryan Hendrix’s day
You knew after he walked the lead off batter and went 2-0 on the next batter that this was coming.
Hendrix sucks. Righthanded Perez….hes gotta go. Can’t get behind or walk big league hitters
fielder’s indifference in a 2-run game?
Gut Punch feeling right there boo..
Missing Tejay right there.
Would be sweet if they can still rally and win though
Even Lorenzen there could’ve worked?
3b is awful
SS is awful
Bullpen is awful
Those still hold true in mid June
Which makes the run they were on so interesting
I’ve been on Bell’s side, but his participation trophy mindset cost us tonite. Hembree was off yesterday and he’s far superior to Hendrix. He just struck out 5 of 6 the other day. Lets get to the 10th
I’m not seeing extra innings. The bullpen is reverting to its mean.
Told you – count on AG (and Bell). It shouldn’t have been Hendrix.
Was Ryan Hendrix the best choice? Why? Righty righty?
Got to wonder why not Sims or why not Garrett to face Hosmer.
3 batter minimum so no AG. Sims went 1.1 yesterday and closed the day before. He’s not available
Three batter rule would have kept Garrett from coming in to face Hosmer.
Yeah I forgot about the 3 batter rule.
Ugh
Wow….AG? 97 mph and he grooves one for the guy
This series scared me when I saw it a month ago. I hope we don’t get swept after this
Well…that’s disappointing ain’t it.
Thank you Bob Castellini.
That was just an awful turn of events wasn’t it.
Ugh bullpen was going so good. Got to hand it to the offense for battling back.
It was the Brewers I think. They had 1 hit in 6 innings in Coors tonite. Our pen still sucks outside of TA
Geez tough one.
Reminder of the issue at hand with this team.
Shame imo with talent overall elsewhere.
And the bullpen has returned to earth
I told you guys Warren was better then most of these scrubs. He came in with 2 on & nobody out and put up a zero. AG can’t even get 2 outs. Hendrix is just as bad
wow…just…
Yeesh. What a gut punch.
We just experienced the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat and about 15 minutes.
Yeah, it’s too bad. Apparently Sims, Brach and Hembree were all unavailable.
Well heres to the AG defenders that say “His career era isn’t good because of when he was a starter, but he’s actually a good reliever”
No.he.isnt
The first two weeks I said, “he isn’t Wandy Peralta” and I stand by that.
He’s now worse
Thrilling 9th inning, the Reds fought hard. For what ever reason, Garrett just doesn’t have it this year.
It seems teams are not swinging at the slider out of the strike one, and the only spot Garrett can throw the fastball is down the middle.
A truly exciting game up 4-2 with 3 outs to go and then….
I think AG would do well with a change of scenery from the Reds.
+1
I think the Reds would do well with a change of scenery by AG.
I anticipate a lot of scenery change by next spring to make way for the young players to take over, and hopefully, action by the FO this season to strengthen the bullpen because this team has too much potential.
Go get Richard Rodriguez and maybe another Pirates reliever. Now before more games like this happened. Surely Hembree was available tonight. I don’t get it.
Hembree pitched Sunday, Monday, and Tues so probably not
Milwaukee had to get a SS and they did. Even though TA is coming and Lorenzen is coming……if the Reds want to compete then the front office HAS to go get a guy or two. Lefty is preferable. Its mandatory. The other guys that are B- C+ pitchers will get burned out otherwise
AG should have the ability to close games and get three outs in the 9th. You can tell he has no confidence in his pitches and his manager does not even want to use him.
0-2 pitch as well. He’s wild with walks and he’s wild in the strike zone. Enough is enough. He just hit 97 and he’s grooving an 0-2 breaking ball to get golfed out of the park? Throw some heat on the outside or try to break a slider on the outside corner. Stupid
Yeah Erik that last sentence “You can tell he has no confidence in his pitches and his manager does not even want to use him.” is the elephant in the room.
Hendrix needs to stop nibbling. Garrett can’t get beat on 0-2 pitch by the eighth place hitter.
Historic comeback with great Abs by the catching duo turns into a devastating loss.
The two rookie staring pitchers are up next. We shall see how they respond?
Why is Shogo buried on this bench without a sniff at getting a start lately, just don’t understand it.
Simms couldn’t give you two batters tonight after that historic comeback?
Caratini got a carrot and knew what to do with it
This game should put the Reds ownership and front office on notice: figure out how to build around India, Stevenson, and Winker. The team can do well without Suárez now
Geno had a good series in St. Louis and I thought he was coming around, but tonite was horrible. That at-bat in the 9th told the story. Took a 2-1 pitch right down broadway and then swung on ball 4 on the 3-2 pitch. Pulling his head and coming off the ball. Its been the same story all year
Alejo Lopez has 17 more hits in 25 less games than Suarez. Is he hitting as many homers? No. Good amount of doubles though, and the Reds could use another on base guy more than Suarez’s solo run potential. And if you do wanna keep him in the lineup, hit him in front of the pitcher. Will get less to hit but when they do make mistakes maybe he can do his solo home run thing.