Eugenio Suárez is still being discussed and has been drawing interest from teams in trade talks according to Jon Heyman of MLB Network. It’s not a surprise that the Cincinnati Reds third baseman would be drawing plenty of interest around the league. The Venezuelan-born slugger is under contract for the next four seasons, and he has a team option for $15M in the 2025 season that includes a $2M buyout. He’s only due to make just over $11M in each of the next four seasons – he’s a bargain and locked up long term.

As it has been seemingly all offseason, the Reds are reportedly listening to offers on just about any player that’s making any sort of money. Whether that’s been Sonny Gray, Eugenio Suárez, Mike Moustakas, Nick Castellanos, or Luis Castillo – they’ve reportedly been willing to entertain offers. As a team you should always listen, but it’s also been a bit disheartening to a fan base that’s had a handful of winning seasons in the last 30 years to hear that nearly all of their top players are being discussed in trade rumors after the team also clearly moved on from Raisel Iglesias (trade) and Archie Bradley (non-tendered) in efforts to cut payroll.

Rob Manfred says to expect the season to begin on time

While it’s been assumed for a while now that the 2021 regular season would begin on time because in order for it to be delayed there needs to be a whole slew of things happen in order for it to be paused or pushed back, Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred stated on Monday that we should expect spring training and the 2021 season to start on time according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today.

Reds land 4 prospects in the Top 100 list

Scott White of CBS Sports released his 2021 Top 100 Prospect List. It’s labeled as a Fantasy Baseball Prospect List, but it’s clearly not for just the 2021 season as it includes players who will undoubtedly never play in the Major Leagues during the upcoming season short of an absolute miracle. The Reds landed four players on the list, and it’s probably going to surprise more than a few of you that one player missed out.

No Red made the Top 75, but Nick Lodolo came in at #76 and was the top rated Cincinnati prospect. The lefty was at Prasco Park this year, but never reached the Major Leagues. The most recent 1st round pick, outfielder Austin Hendrick, was next for Cincinnati and came in at #82 on the list. It was 2018 1st rond pick Jonathan India who was the next Reds prospect on the list, coming in as the #88 overall prospect. He was followed by teammate Jose Garcia, who was the final prospect from the organization to make the list. Notably missing from the list was catcher Tyler Stephenson and right-handed pitcher Hunter Greene, who have both made other Top 100 lists this offseason.

50 Responses

  1. Sliotar

    Heyman – “Reds are open to listening on Mike Moustakas and Nick Castellanos but there doesn’t seem to much traction there.”

    Many of this team’s key players going to be old and virtually untradeable within a couple of seasons, if they aren’t already.

    If dealing Suarez can smooth out that dropoff … great.

    I see that as a possible motivation, since he has trade value, instead of dealing him just to cut payroll.

  2. Cubano

    The thought of Suarez to the Nats has me thinking… These teams have some similarities. The Reds and Nats both poached streaky sluggers from the Central when they became available. As far as veteran pickups go, how would you all collectively rate Moose and Castellanos vs. the Nats grabbing Bell and Schwarber? Who would you all rather have? Personally, I like Moose above the rest, and his defense is passable compared to the other three- with the eye test, he also profiles a bit differently as a hitter, but he’s also a bit older than the other guys. Time will tell which players will contribute most next year, but the Nats pickups seem to have a high ceiling and a potentially dismal floor.

  3. Rednat

    so happy that baseball is starting in april Doug. it could be argued that the country needs baseball more in 2021 than in 2020! go reds! go USA!

  4. LDS

    Castellini should sell the team. He’s owned the team for roughly 15 years and is now approaching 80. The franchise is valued at $1B+ and they purchased in for $270M, so even in a depressed market, he triples his investment. He’s had his day in the sun, it’s time for new ownership/leadership.

    • William Kloentrup

      Get An owner Who Cares About winning And Willing To Spend Money To Truly Make Your Team In The Hunt!

    • David

      Do you have anyone in mind that would keep the franchise in Cincinnati?

      A new buyer might very likely want to move the team to a bigger city, with better finances from cable, attendance, etc.

      Be careful what you wish for.

      • Jimbo44CN

        agree completely. I think Nashville is dying to get a team.

  5. Klugo

    I like dangling any of those 3 guys to see if anyone bites. Just dont settle, please.

    • 2020ball

      The Nats turned down the Reds ask, so that should say something.

      • doofus

        “The Nats turned down the Reds ask…”

        How do you know that? Perhaps the Reds turned downed the Nats; or, perhaps both teams are just talking, exchanging names.

  6. west larry

    Goodbye Suarez, I wish you luck and that the reds get a excellent return for you. More changes to come, I guess. Please don’t give antone else just to save payroll. I understand why you are trying to trade mouse and Castelano, but no bids for either-not happeninb. That’s probably why The chief of baseball operations was let go.

  7. gusnwally

    I will sorta repeat a post I made a few days ago. If the man who is 2nd in Hr’s in the last 3 years is too expensive for you at 11 mill a year. You need to let someone else have a go at the franchise. That is by the way 2nd to Mike Trout in all of MLB.

    • Michael E

      I don’t think it’s about expense in this case. Suarez carries big trade value. If you need to mini-reboot, Suareze is the perfect trade asset. You have a 3B on the roster. You SHOULD be able to get a top prospect or two.

      I don’t see Suarez aging well at all. No speed, mediocre glove. He is destined to be a DH in a few years. Yes he is “cheap” in relative terms but hardly an all-star. Just above average who’s selling card is HRs, but nothing else stands out.

      If another team covets him and will part with HIGH upside prospect(s), then make the deal, move Moustakas and get better moving forward.

      This is the same crap we saw with Frazier. He peaked some (not all) fans wanted to keep him and ownership got soft and then his trade value plummeted.

      • Hotto4Votto

        I agree with this, and the Frazier comparison seems apt. Even though the money won’t be the quite the same, the last couple of years of Suarez’s contract will be likely viewed similarly to Moose and Castellanos in the way he’ll be past his prime and limited defensively and costing just enough to void any trade value his production would warrant.

        As much as I’ve enjoyed rooting for Geno the time to trade him is probably now if the Reds want to cash in before his trade value decreases. Especially as we have a ready replacement on hand in Moose to slide to 3B.

    • Michael E

      I should add Eugenio does take some walks, so his OBP isn’t bad, but he also strikes out a TON, and we, as Reds fans, know what that brings come playoff time…donuts on the scoreboard when facing above average pitching. Get some upside prospects that show a good hit tool (or a SP1/2 future SP…potential ace stuff).

    • Tom

      Mike Trout also has a gold glove in CF, hits for average and runs the bases well. Suarez not so much. HRs at GASP and with the juiced ball are overrated. If the Reds can get a good return on Suarez, bye, bye.

    • Ted Koopmann

      absolutely agree 1000% — he is a bargain at this price and for the years — if HE is too expensive sell the team (Gray is another example of this)

  8. Joey Barrett

    Hindsight is always 20/20 but there just seems to be a lot of uncertainty in the market right now with everything se that’s going on. What could we have got if we traded him at the end of 2019? Tough time to be a GM that’s for sure and especially when you aren’t allowed to spend any money!

  9. west larry

    He signed both of them. terrible use of limited resourses. Goodbye Mr. Williams.

    • 2020ball

      All done without knowing the season would be shut down, something that can’t just be ignored.

    • Redsvol

      whoa there cowboy. At the time, Castellanos signing was considered by national media types as a major victory. He had a great track record as a hitter and the contract – pre-covid was considered very reasonable for his production.
      Moustakis was considered an overpay but most liked his track record of production and fact he was usually part of a winning team.
      It makes sense why Williams resigned if in 2019 you’re being told to sign free agents and then at end of 2020 being told to cut payroll. But I think Williams did some very good things during his tenure that simply haven’t had time to show up yet.
      Now, we have several defensively-limited players that need to be thinned out if possible. Doesn’t mean you’re going to sell for pennies on the dollar but if you can recoup some prospects by moving 1 of them without harming the total lineup then it seems smart to do that. I just don’t see enough teams interested in taking on salary to create much of a trade market that would make sense for Suarez production.

      • citizen54

        Williams resigned because he went all in and failed. He overpaid for average free agents and traded the farm for guys with one year of control. The Reds just went through 4 seasons where they lost 90+ games. What was the result of all that losing? One year of .500 baseball and now they have to rebuild again. To make matters worse, they don’t have many players that would net good prospects and they have one of the weakest farm systems in the MLB. I’m actually amazed how anyone can stick up for Williams.

      • doofus

        Does anyone believe it is just to cast blame for the Red’s failure to rebuild a roster when the principal owner along with his side-kick from the old days are known to meddle in baseball operations?

      • doofus

        Do any of us known with certainty who made the decision to overpay for Moose or Castellanos?

    • Michael E

      Yeah Castellanos made sense, a doubles machine, a tough out and would see HR improvements in GABP.

      I wasn’t as high on Moustakas, he of the .250 average, but I wasn’t down on it either. Just didn’t see it moving the needle much.

      Had we known Covid was about to throw a monkey-wrench into “going for it”, then yeah, you make NO signings last off-season. Sigh, if only we could do over, eh?

    • citizen54

      Yup the reason the Reds are in cost cutting move is because of the bone headed signings made by Williams. Instead of being in a position where the Reds could have picked up some good players at below market rates, the Reds now need to jettison players that have value. Hardly shocking that Moustakas and Castellanos are drawing no trade interest. Like it or not, the Reds are stuck with them and their mediocre production for three more years.

      People like to complain about the moves Krall has made so far but the fact is Williams left this team in terrible state with his dumb decision to go all in when the team had middling talent. Krall is simply trying to clean up the mess.

      • David

        Yeah, and we heard Williams was cleaning up the mess left by Jocketty.

        The pieces change, but the situation remains the same. Logically, you may want to look elsewhere for the Reds’ continuing problems of not winning.

  10. 2020ball

    I’m willing to give Krall his chance, he’s inheriting the team under some strange circumstances. The Iglesias trade sure doesn’t feel good, but sunk costs like Bradley wont bother me much. What made no sense to me is they never used him last year anyway. Its possible to infuse some youth here and come out the better for it if they trade one of their top players. Suarez solves some infield logjams, but would be a bitter pill to swallow. I could even see them standing pat with some minor move for a SS. Time will tell.

    • DataDumpster

      Right. They didn’t use him very often, that is the issue. Similar to Pedro Strop, a touted acquisition from the Cubs that signed for about 1.9 million. He ended up pitching 2.1 innings. There’s several other moves and non-moves (Bauer and the fourth day “discussion”) that make no sense.

      How can this be? Oh, David Bell is still the manager. I don’t care who they trade because I can’t evaluate how it should be done. I’m just trying to find a strategic plan for the players they do acquire.

  11. JayTheRed

    Keep everyone we still have currently unless someone is willing to overpay and then go out and sign a decent SS. Does not need to be the best out there, but it does have to be someone not on the scrap heap. The offense’s history produced way better than what we got from it last year. I do wish we had some more on base people though. The strikeouts really hurt when runners are in scoring position.

    • Kim Henry

      I agree. I may be the only one who thinks so, but I think we have enough talent to contend. If not in contention by trade deadline, then make some moves. Fingers always point to ownership and management, but PLAYERS WIN OR LOSE GAMES. There has been enough talent over the years; just underperforming players.

  12. TR

    The Nationals need Suarez more than the Reds need to trade Suarez. The Reds need to wait out the Nats until they get a real good haul. It makes possible what I regard as a good move: Senzel to second base, Moustakas to third and then either Akiyama or Benintendi in centerfield. The haul should include a shortstop who can meet the ball as a hitter and a good lefthanded pitching prospect.

    • Michael E

      Maybe add in a lower level prospect Washington likes and ask for a nice package back. Don’t back off the asking price but kick in a #12 or #15 prospect if it will get it done. This assumes they’re asking for a top 3 prospect and another top 8 one…at the very least.

  13. Rod Andrews

    Being a Reds fan since 1960, I’ve seen the good, bad, and the ugly. Still, the idea of starting with a clean plate, getting as many prospects as possible, seems more exciting to me than going through more disappointing and mediocre seasons. Even though there would clearly be a couple rough years ahead, we might get some real excitement watching young guys like Lodolo, Greene, Hendricks, Senzel, etc. bring back the thrill again. Just a thought from an old fan.

    • greenmtred

      As another old fan, I’m in complete agreement. adding a good shortstop to the current roster might get the Reds to the foothills of mediocrity, but but no further.

  14. Redhaze

    Keep Suarez. Trade Moustakas, Senzel, Romano, and Lorenzen to the Royals for Merrifield, Mondesi, and Staumont. Merrifield to second, Mondesi to shortstop, and Staumont potential closer.

  15. Steve Schoenbaechler

    I would have no problem with this, actually. I mean, Senzel may actually be able to stay healthier if he plays the position he played a vast, vast majority of the time in the minors, college, etc.

    And, that’s what a club is suppose to do, right? When they have a locked up starter and a minor leaguer (at least Senzel was that a couple of years ago), trade either the starter and with the young stud, or trade the young stud; isn’t that’s how it is suppose to go?

  16. Bill J

    I was for trading Suarez and Iggy at the end of 2019 to the Braves for Pache or Waters a one of their pitchers, the were looking for a 3rd baseman and closer.

  17. Mitch Cifers

    We are still paying on contracts that have crippled the team, Votto, Griffey and others. We need to improve our scouting department. The team hasn’t had a solid farm system in quite awhile. We need to cut Votto, hard to say, but needed.

  18. ClayMC

    I’m so torn. We all know Cincinnati’s never going to draw top tier free agents, we don’t have the resources to place all-stars all across the diamond, and our competitive windows will inevitably be shorter in duration than many other teams. So we have to maximize value where ever possible, and locking up a player of Suarez’s caliber for a relative steal is the DREAM. It’s exactly what we hope to find year in year out, and it’s a crucial foundational piece we have to have if we ever want to legitimately compete given the constraints I mentioned above. Having found this golden nugget, it feels insane that we’d ever let it go, because in the best of circumstances, you’d be letting him go for a small chance that a player coming back in the trade can provide the same sort of value. You just don’t regularly find players like Suarez, in his peak seasons, making $11 million a year.

    But as others are pointing out, if Suarez’s contract is one of the very few pieces carrying significant trade value, and the window is closing fast, I can see where it makes sense to move the contract.

    I just hope that the front office fully commits to one direction or the other. I’ll be a happy tag-along either way, as long as we fully commit. I understand Mouse and Castellanos being difficult to move, but I just can’t see a situation where you’d ever be able to justify keeping only a portion of the Suarez, Gray, Castillo, Winker group. Let that group be your backbone and supplement them to extend the window, or let them all go.

  19. NYRedsfan

    Suarez to the Nats for Kieboom and Garcia

  20. IggyStrummer

    To be clear, I love Suarez but…it is the one salary trim/trade that makes sense. Trade him and Winker for prospects, move Moose to 3rd, Senzel to second, no OF logjam, use savings to sign shortstop, keep Castillo and Gray. Rinse and win division.

    • David

      If the Reds’ trade to cut payroll, I would not expect them to turn around and sign a high-priced free agent to play shortstop. They are cutting payroll because they lost a lot of money last year, and not so sure of even breaking even in 2021.
      Attendance will be limited because of Covid 19.

  21. west larry

    I agree. If the reds are cutting payroll, it’s wishful thinking to believe that are going to pay seven or eight million a year for a shortstop. As others have posted, it’s probably Farmer and Glavis or another utility player at a reduced price. I think that they are hoping that Garcia will be the everyday shortstop in the later part of the season.

  22. BigRedMike

    So, the Reds have no top 75 prospects after 5 years of really bad baseball. Also, they have two really bad contracts for aging/average players. What a terrible position to be in.

    Trading Suarez is not a bad idea, good player, but, will not age well as others have noted. Trending quickly to a 1B/DH. Hopefully, the Reds are not trading for players that are close to MLB ready like they have been. Get the best players possible in the deal.

    Have a plan, one year trade for a bunch of players, next year sign bad FA contracts and now have average aging players and no top prospects.

  23. Tom

    What is it with the hitters that had huge drop-offs in 2020? Was the lively ball of 2019 banished and replaced with a dead ball in 2020? Did pitchers put more into each start in a shorter season? Were hitters unprepared due to the short ramp up to the season? Were universal shifts to blame? Did steroids suddenly become history? Did pitchers figure out how to attack hitters looking to launch everything? Or perhaps a combination of all of the above. For whatever the reason some of the big, big performers from 2019 (Christian Yelich, and more) seemingly could not hit their way out of a wet paper bag in 2020. One thing for sure, strikeouts were up again and this could be a clue and perhaps a part of the problem.

    • Doug Gray

      Marcus Semien spoke about some of the stuff that altered his season – at least in his opinion – this year. Basically, he noted that not having access to the team facility to work out, and having to work out at home left his body in a different place than it otherwise has been in the past. While he was still able to get some work done, it just wasn’t the same as having access to top end trainers, equipment, and recovery that you would get otherwise. That doesn’t work for the strikeouts, you cited, but it certainly could explain some of the issues related to what happened with some guys once they did make contact.