Final R H E
Cincinnati Reds (10-13) 4 8 0
St. Louis Cardinals (7-7) 5 7 2
W: Elledge (1-0) L: Iglesias (1-2)
Statcast | Box Score | Game Thread

Things were going the Cincinnati Reds way before the start of the bottom of the 9th inning. Then a story that’s played out one too many times (or 15 too many times – who’s even counting anymore?), the bullpen ran into problems and saw a lead vanish and turn into a victory for the St. Louis Cardinals in the first game of a 4-game series between the two National League Central foes.

The Offense

The Reds offense didn’t take long to get going, but they were helped out a little bit by the Cardinals defense. Joey Votto laced a grounder down the line, but Paul Goldschmidt made a diving snag of the ball – he just failed to make a good threw to the covering pitcher and Votto reached. After Nick Castallanos flew out, the Jesse Winker show continued as he singled into right field. Eugenio Suárez followed up with a grounder to third that was first bobbled by Brad Miller, erasing any chance of turning a double play, but then he threw the ball past first base to bring in a run and move Winker to third. Mike Moustakas followed with a sacrifice fly to make it 2-0 and give Sonny Gray multiple runs to work with before he ever took the mound.

Cincinnati added to their lead in the 2nd inning on a 400 foot home run by Freddy Galvis. After the Cardinals got on the board in the bottom of the inning, the Reds came back for the 3rd to extend their lead. Eugenio Suárez hit a weak grounder up the third base line and beat out the play for a single. Mike Moustakas followed up with a double to center to bring in the Reds 4th run of the day.

After that the offense went silent. The double by Moustakas in the 3rd inning was the last time that a Reds player reached base for the next four-plus innings. Alex Reyes took over for the Cardinals in the 8th inning and that’s when the offense got back into things a little bit. Eugenio Suárez walked with one out, and Shogo Akiyama had a single with two outs, but both runners were stranded in the inning.

In the top of the 9th they were threatening again. Freddy Galvis led off with a walk, but was thrown out stealing. After a fly out, Joey Votto doubled and was followed by a Nick Castellanos walk. Jesse Winker came up and he walked, too – loading the bases for Eugenio Suárez, but his struggles continued as he struck out to end the threat.

The Pitching

After a dominant 1st inning that saw Sonny Gray strikeout two batters and throw just 12 pitches, the Cardinals got through in the next inning. Gray, who pounded the zone in the 1st could barely find it in the 2nd as he walked two batters and allowed a single, before Yadier Molina came through with a 2-run single to cut into the Reds lead and make it 3-2. That was all they’d get in the inning, but it put them right back into the game.

Sonny Gray followed up with a walk in an otherwise clean 3rd inning, and a 1-2-3 inning to follow. That helped get his pitch count back on track, checking in at 67 through his four innings to that point. In the 5th inning, Gray worked around a 2-out double and a walk as he continued walking the tight rope on the night. The 6th inning started with a strikeout, but Tyler O’Neill tried to get a rally started with a 1-out single. Gray fell behind 3-0 to Dexter Fowler, who got the green light to swing away – did just that. Unlike Fernando Tatis Jr., Fowler grounded into an inning-ending double play. That was all she wrote for Gray on the day, who finished with two earned in 6.0 innings with four walks and six strikeouts.

Lucas Sims took over for the Reds to begin the 7th inning and he nearly put together a perfect inning, striking out the side on just 11 pitches. Sims came back out for the 8th and got two ground outs before bringing in Amir Garrett to face off against left-handed hitting Matt Carpenter. The move paid off as Garrett struck him out to send the game to the 9th inning with Cincinnati still holding a 4-2 lead.

Raisel Iglesias came out for the bottom of the 9th and proceeded to hit the first batter of the inning with the first pitch of the inning. Not a good start. The next batter walked – the first walk of the season for Iglesias – to put the tying run on the bases. A ground ball single into right field loaded the bases with no outs to bring Yadier Molina to the plate. Another grounder up the middle looked like a chance to turn two, but Iglesias reached out to field it to potentially come home to get the lead runner, only to have the ball graze off his glove and go for an RBI infield hit.

A balk followed to tie the game. Somehow 2020 shows us something else. With runners on 2nd and 3rd, the Reds brought the infield and outfield in. They also brought in Nate Jones to replace Iglesias. It didn’t matter as Kolten Wong hit a ball to the warning track in center for a walk-off hit to crush the soul of Cincinnati sports fans once again.

Notes worth noting

Sonny Gray extended his Major League record of 39 consecutive starts without allowing more than six hits.

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Cincinnati Reds vs St. Louis Cardinals

Friday August 21st, 8:15pm ET

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55 Responses

  1. FreeHouse

    I’ve officially given up and it’s time to blow this team up. They tried building a winning culture but it didn’t work. If their smart maybe pack Bauer and Iglesias to the Dodgers for a Gavin Lux.

    • Colorado Red

      Dodgers would say No to that one.
      Might get a nice prospect, but not Gavin.
      However, the rebuild is a failure.
      Turn out the lights, the party is for for 2020.

  2. AVinVA

    Reds fan since 1970 but unfortunately they are well intended but losing organization. Very much enjoy the banter on Redleg Nation. Other than their decision to pull Thom off the air they lack a sense of urgency and accountability from top to bottom. Keep batting Votto at the top of the line up because he’s Joey Votto. Keep using Iglesias as the closer regardless of his track record. Keeping batting Suárez in the middle of the lineup. Keep their best young players in the minors to manage their free agency even though they need help now in the bullpen and at catcher. At some point the time needs to be now. The faces change but the culture doesn’t and either do the results. Bell seems to lack instinct which is hard to believe for a third generation baseball guy and he often seems paralyzed to act like tonight or letting Disco give up 9 in two innings. My guess is that he’s trying to be a player’s manager and build confidence. What the team needs is to be held accountable for results. Even better if that message comes from leaders on the team assuming they have players that are willing to have some direct conversations with their teammates.

      • AVinVA

        Thank you. Something needs to change culture wise. I give them credit for increasing payroll but good players absent a winning culture may not payoff for them. The Nationals seemed to figure that out last year.

    • Sliotar


      Good post.

      How about this theory … what if he is just implementing the analytics given to him by front office, while trying to stay “player friendly”?

      I agree with you that he comes across as having little “managerial feel” of what is happening immediately in front of him.

      Maybe he does not have the power we think on in-game decisions.

      • AVinVA

        Agree 100%. He’s managing to not get fired which may ultimately get him fired. Granted he’s learning on the job but I have to think he knows the game better than he is showing.

    • Dan

      Wow! These are my exact thoughts. The accountability needs to start with Bell. He lacks the ability to see what is going on with his own players. I know he wants to have a good rapport with them, but Reds fans are sick and tired of losing, especially when they shouldn’t be. Iglesias is not a closer. I don’t know how many more games he has to lose before Reds management sees that. It is also time for Vanmeter to go.
      The organization has a catching prospect that can hit. Bring him up! Make some changes. Doing the same things usually brings the same results.

    • Richard Fitch

      Joey Votto has a .370 OBP, but you think that’s a weakness at leadoff????


      So, David Bell is paralyzed now? Everyone insists he over manages, but now he’s not acting enough? Y’all need to get your stories straight.

      Sure, the Reds could bring up players from the minors who are not ready for the majors, but okay. Let’s bring up players who haven’t had success above A-ball. That’s the solution. Sure.

      Everyone is frustrated. I get that. But, let’s use some common sense.

      • RojoBenjy

        @Richard Fitch
        And what does common sense tell us in this situation, then?

        I’d appreciate if you would expound on it.

      • Hotto4Votto

        Agree about Votto. Outside of Winker, who’s been on a tear, he’s easily the highest OBP on the team. Batting him ahead of the big bats of Castellanos, Moose, Suarez, and Winker makes a lot of sense.

    • JayTheRed

      Everything you said is very much on point thank you. Some of the loss tonight was just some plain bad luck but this team is no better than the past 7 seasons.

      There are too few bright spots on the team. Honestly if we don’t make the playoffs with 16 teams making it this season. I am dropping the reds and searching for a team with a winning culture and a team that puts effort into every game. Tonight should have been a win but somehow they always find a way to lose.

      I know we won’t win them all but I’m beginning to feel like there is zero hope for this team.

      • Indy Red Man

        What other teams have starters giving up 9+ runs in a game? Disco is probably the only one. Bell gives up in the 2nd inning vs a 3 win team? If he doesn’t feel any urgency then why should we bother to watch?

      • PTBNL

        Change to another team? Then you would have to change your name. How about “JaytheRay”.

        Hang with ’em. We are all die hard or we wouldn’t be on this site. People who show up here are not fair-weather fans.

      • Earmbrister

        Jay “The Red”

        Don’t let the door hit you on your backside …

        Why don’t you become a Yankees fan. Ciao.

    • Colorado Red

      Also a Reds fan since 1970.
      I disagree on Iggy, for the most part he had been very good this year (after the first outing or 2).
      Other then that, I agree with you.

  3. Sliotar

    Bell needs a better bench coach than Benavides.
    and/or …. stop worrying about player wishes/wants, or the textbook plan

    Example – Have Garrett start 9th vs. Lefty Brad Miller.

    Even if Cardinals pinch-hit and a HR comes of it … Reds still lead 4-3, have Iglesias come in for O’Neill.

    Enough with the “clean 9th inning for Iglesias” … let the player adjust.

    • Sliotar

      Stay in for at least 2 batters in 9th… and at the very worst, 4-4.

      With Iglesias ready to come in at a moment’s notice.

  4. RedAlert

    Bell should be handed his walking papers – dude does nothing to inspire any
    confidence that this situation is gonna change – I mean nothing ! I understand that he doesn’t pitch or hit . His decision making skills are pedestrian . Just not
    managerial material at this level of
    baseball . I’ll say again – this team ain’t
    going anywhere with him as head man . When in the world is Big Bob gonna
    recognize this !

    • mudpuppie

      I agree 100%. Should of happened last year. It was evident then. Has never had a winning record as a manager anywhere… What were they thinking when they hired him.,..

    • Colorado Red

      Yes, he is shown he does understand in game management.
      Team should be at least 100
      The manager might now win many games, but he can lose them.

  5. Redsfandownunder

    This club needs a serious shakeup starting yesterday:
    1) Demote Iglasias from closer
    2) Send VanMeter to the taxi squad to get sorted out
    3) Give Aquino a chance to DH against both LH and RH pitching – when Aquino was struggling last year, he was still 10 times better than VanMeter/Ervin are right now
    4) Promote and start Stephenson at catcher

    Can’t keep running out 6-7 guys hitting below .250 and a closer with an ERA above 7

  6. CFD3000

    At what point do the Reds FO and David Bell stop repeating this same mistake? Yes, when Iglesias is on he’s nearly unhittable. But when he’s not on he’s a train wreck. And that’s unacceptable for a closer. 12 losses last year with an ERA north of 4. That sounds bad right? He’s more or less single handedly lost 2 games already this year. Doesn’t sound too bad? Prorated over 162 games, that’s a FOURTEEN loss pace. And his ERA is nearly 8. EIGHT. Small sample size? Combine 2019 and 2020 and he’s been unreliable and often Bad for 185 games. Stop this madness.

    I realize that others have struggled this year. But at least TRY somebody else. Please. These late inning heart breaks are killing the Reds and fast sinking their playoff chances. This is a game the Reds really needed to win. Sims? Mahle? Antone? Right now, as bad as he’s been, Cody Reed has a lower ERA than Iglesias.

    Yes, the three batter rule means you can’t quickly pull a closer if he looks off. And I understand that the options were limited tonight. Only Garrett (who could have stayed in), Reed, Lorenzen, Nate Jones and Tyler Thornburg were really available. But this Iglesias as closer experiment is a fail. I’m not blaming Bell for Iglesias’ collapse tonight. Given the options it was a reasonable choice even if in hindsight it’s easy to say leave Garrett in. But the Reds need a better option and less rigid adherence to those awful closer rules. Something has to change. Sooo frustrating.

    • jessecuster44

      Keep Garrett in until he gets into trouble. Have two arms loose in the pen at beginning of 9th.

      It’s not difficult to manage a bullpen well. Especially if you demand excellence and ignore players egos.

  7. JayTheRed

    My thought I just wanted to bring up. Why doesn’t Sims get a chance to close the guy has been pretty much dominating this season. He was pretty good last year too.

    I love Iggy as a pitcher but the guy seems to lose focus really easy when he makes mistakes. If things don’t go perfect for him he loses it fast.

    • RedsMonk65

      This, I think, may be precisely the issue.

      He does not seem to have a “closer mentality.”

      We need a Nasty Boy.

  8. Douglas Stanley

    Except for a notable few, it appears to me that most of the team, including the managers, do not have their hearts in it. The talent is there. It’s just not being used to each players potential.

  9. Indy Red Man

    I’m going to steal a line from Thom’s favorite movie that summarizes how I feel about our Reds:

    I wish I could quit you.

    I love the Reds, but I don’t like this team. The testing and protocols and lack of fans is bad enough, but Bell and/or Iggy are always busy giving games away. They snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like no other team I’ve ever watched! Then teams try to hand them games and they can’t win those either. On top of that their style is boring. Its almost always either hr’s or nothing.

    I don’t have Fox Midwest on Dish anyway so I’m out. Attempting to follow this team with the 2020 parameters is frustrating and I don’t enjoy it. I wish everyone well! I hope they go on a 10 game winning streak, but I’m not hitting up Buffalo Wild Wings and their $16 cheeseburgers to see this team.

    ! I do enjoy the forum as a hardcore Reds fan and props to Doug for all your hard work. I plan on making a donation at seasons end. If they make the playoffs then I guess the games will be on tv? I wish everyone good luck and good health!!

  10. Johnnie Sparks

    Bell shouldn’t of never gotten the job. Season is over blow it up. Trade baurer , Castillo,Nick C , an Iggy. Should be able to get a few prospects

    • Fat boy slim

      Still curious how he got it over Ferrell and girardi

  11. Klugo

    Note so self: Enjoy the game until the bullpen shows up. Then turn it off and go to bed. You’ll sleep longer and better. Read about it in the morning.

    • Keith

      I turned game off after Suarez struck out in the top of the 9th (I miss the days when I expected him to come through there), figuring that if the Reds blew it, I didn’t want to stay up and watch it. Hate that it looks like a wise move.

      Ohio professional sports are not for the weak.

      • Colorado Red

        I turned it off, and Iggy hit the first batter on the first pitch.
        Knew it was over.

  12. TR

    As the NYC saying goes: ‘so what else is new?’ Reds winning by two, ninth inning and no outs and Iglesias puts two runners on which brings the winning run to the plate and remembering the game is in St. Louis. As a Reds fan since the late 1940’s, I go to bed preferring an undisturbed nights sleep.

  13. JoshG

    the only decision I didn’t like was not walking the bases loaded at the end

  14. David Rutherford

    I did the same thing. When I read the result this morning I was so glad I didn’t watch it live. This team just seems to find the most soul-crushing ways to lose a game.

  15. Hotto4Votto

    This bullpen has been brutal with all the times they’ve snagged defeat from the jaws of victory. It’s a shame, with a halfway decent pen the Reds may be looking pretty good right now.

  16. GreatRedLegsFan

    Besides the usual closer’s low performance, the offensive also went 0-8 w/RISP enroute for 9 LOB. What’s of more concern the persistence with decisions that have proven to be unsuccsesful.

    • TR

      Too many runners left stranded on third base regardless of the # of outs. It seems very difficult for the recent Reds to hit a fly ball, not too far, with less than 2 outs to try and score a runner from third base.

      • mudpuppie

        For Pete’s sake, start your best hitting lineup. Any manager that would start Van Meter just because he hits left handed should be let go…. Poor ole Van Meter may bat left handed but he does not hit at all.

  17. ClevelandRedsFan

    This is what a losing culture looks like:

    1. Last year, Iglesias has a 4.41 ERA. This year it’s 7.71. Those are not closer numbers. Iglesias has not been closer worthy for 1 year and 23 games. The sample size is not too small. Why can’t Bell see this? How many more games must the Reds give up
    hoping Iggy turns it around? A real manager would have told Iggy he’s no longer the closer during the 2019 season.

    Keep Garrett in to close last night’s game. ERA last year and this is 3.5. Still not closer caliber but much better. And he looked sharp to his one batter.

    2. I love JVM, but the JVM experiment needs to end. David Bell’s starting DH is hitting .063 on the year. Enough with the platooning madness. If guys can’t hit, they can’t hit. JVM should just be a utility player. With Senzel out, Davidson needs to be the team’s DH until Aquino is called up. Again Bell seemingly cares more about sticking to decisions he stockpiled in the offseason instead of adjusting based on performance.

    3. Fire David Bell. See above. He continues to put his worst players in the most important situations. What does he expect? Iglesias to just magically turn it around? He always figures out what fans know 2 weeks too late.

    He lets his players tell him what their roles are instead of him telling them. That’s not what good managers do. They make their players earn it.

    5. Every hitter except maybe Votto and Shogo considers himself to be the homerun threat. Why? Does David Bell let them all think that or does he tell them that. This madness also needs to end. I’m sick of seeing Tucker, JVM, and others continue to swing for the fences instead of making solid contact and adjusting based on the pitcher and situation. Good pitchers don’t throw cookies, especially when they know hitters are swinging for the fences.

    Reds need guys to understand their roles. But Bell continues to prove he can’t make adjustments for his players or in his decisions.

    5. The Reds so far have played the easiest schedule in all of MLB.

    This is not a good baseball team and they will finish under .500. This is no longer even a good team on paper. Does leadership really think this team will win more games when they start playing the Twins, White Sox, Cubs, and Cardinals more?

    Reds now need to be listening to offers on Bauer and Castellanos. If Castellanos has a bad year, which he is not, he might stay. But does he really want to be on this team? Leadership needs to have a good answer in 10 days by the deadline. Not trading Castellanos, missing the playoffs, and then having him walk would be a disaster.

    6. This is the big one. The rebuild was botched in ways that is completely inexcusable. 7 years of losing and 4 last place finishes, and what do we have to show for that? A farm system that’s the 5th worst in all of baseball, 1.5 years of Trevor Bauer on a losing team, Nick Senzel, and I will give them credit for the Castillo/Suarez trades. That’s it. 2 solid to great players for several years and potentially a third in Senzel. Bauer is wasted on a bad team.

    The Reds have continued to fail at drafting and developing talent. The Reds haven’t drafted an impact player since Todd Frazier .

    The Reds also held onto their players for way too long and got nothing in return when trading. Frazier, Bruce, Leake, Cueto, Chapman (traded too early), Phillips trades, etc all came up empty. I believe the only current player from those trades is Cody Reed. The players earned in those trades should now be the Reds everyday starters. They targeted “Major league ready” players instead of the best talent. Best talent could have fielded a winning team right now.

    The worst part of all this is that next year won’t be any better. Without Castellanos and Bauer and a declining Votto, this team is much worse next year. Maybe 2022 or 2023.

    • mudpuppie

      Most spot on remarks I’ve read. I’ve been thinking all these things you have mentioned, but just not the wordsmith that you are. My hat is off to you Cleveland Red. To think, we could of had Rocco B, the manager that the Twins snagged instead of Bell. When the Cardinals passed on Bell we should have known something.

  18. RedsfanPa

    Typical Reds loss. I too turned it off and went to bed, knowing full well the outcome. As a lifetime Reds fan that queasy feeling is all too familiar.
    Typical David Bell managed game. I 100% agree with above comments…He has no feel for the game. Nepotism got him this job. At some point that has to stop. It’s clear he’s in over his head. I doubt most Reds fans have much confidence in his managerial ability. I’m not sure he has his player’s respect either or if they have confidence in his leadership skills. Even if they somehow sneak into the playoffs, with him at the helm it probably won’t end well.

  19. Mark Moore

    Sadly, I stayed until the walk-off hit. The “lostness” of Iggy was only eclipsed by Bell’s mismanagement and Suarez consistency in leaving the bat on his shoulder while two pitches in his 2019-kill-it-wheelhouse went past.

    I’ll keep watching, but any hope for a run in the post-season #embracetheweird are fading quickly.

  20. Steven Ross

    I’ll start with a positive: Lucas Sims! Yes sir. Amir Garrett, Nasty.

    Negatives: Jose VanMeter. Is this really the best option? Enough of Bell’s Lefty-Righty nonsense. Play Farmer or Davidson. Play Casali. It’s mind numbing how Bell manages a game. We’ll never win with him. There’s too much talent on this team for us not to be constantly under .500.

    One final comment: I’m not a fan of the bunt but small ball screamed at Bell in the 9th. Glavis got on 1st. Tucker up. Nobody out. Tucker can’t hit. Get him to 2nd. Drop a bunt down 3rd. What happened? Hit and run failed miserably. Glavis thrown out and of course, Tucker makes it 2 outs. What followed? Votto lined a double down the 1st base line. SMH.

  21. Still a Red

    No one’s commented here about the balk. Just a little twitch in Iggy’s shoulder. Cards yell balk and 2nd base ump calls it. I dunno!! Seems like alot of pitchers get away with alot more extraneous movement on the mound. Look at Castillo…puts his front foot down, then lifts it off again, then back down. But, this one’s on Iggy…not Bell. Previous outings Iggy lights out, should have been safe to go to him. Long layoff though. Even when he’s lights out though, its scarey.
    Molina a Reds killer. A hard out and he always seems to come up there in tricky situations and delivers…just makes contact. Reds don’t seem to work that way.

    • Don

      I agree with you on the balk call. Igelsias was not in the set position so calling a balk before the set position should never occur.
      It was a bogus call.

      This next part is take from the Cardinals SBNATION site. They are even questioning the call.
      What about the balk rule itself. There is a list of 13 things a pitcher can do that Rule 6.02(a) deems are balks. Iglesias could only have been possibly accused of one of those things. Rule 6.02(a)(1) says it is a balk, when, with a runner on base, “the pitcher, while touching his plate, makes any motion naturally associated with his pitch and fails to make such delivery.” Could one argue that moving without getting into the Set Position constituted a motion naturally associated with his pitch? The problem is that he didn’t make the delivery because he never got into the Set Position to start with.

      The Comment to Rule 6.02(a) states that the purpose of the balk rule is to prevent the pitcher from deliberately deceiving the base runner. Could one argue that in flinching like Iglesias did, he tried to deceive at least the runner at 3rd base? The problem is that the Comment is not a balk rule in itself. It’s an aid in interpreting the balk rule, but it is not a balk to do some unspecified thing to deceive a runner.

      was getting the sign, the ball was in his glove and his pitching hand was behind his back. This should have never been a balk as the pitcher can move all he wants until the set position. This was a totally bad call and never should have been made.

      • Don

        The last paragraph in my last comment is not from the SBnation site. That was mine. I put the markers for what was from the other site in the wrong spot. My mistake and it is not a complete thought. Sorry.

  22. Fat boy slim

    Time to move on from the closer.

  23. Jack

    The rule should be that if a pitcher is throwing well and hasn’t thrown too many pitches he should stay in the game. Every new pitcher you put in the game is a guy who will potentially be having an off night. Garrett apparently can’t throw to more than 1 hitter according to Bell.

  24. Roger Garrett

    Same movie,same actors, same results.Same positive comments from Bell and others.Its all scripted and everybody that is a part of the Reds on the field and off including the folks here at the Nation know it.Won’t change until the Reds blow things up and just field a Double A team for a couple of years.Reds have maybe 5 players of any value that may bring back some prospects and they need to move em now and get what they can get for em.Would rather watch players that may improve vs ones that never have or are on the decline cause losing is losing until you win.

    • mudpuppie

      Problem here is that if you trade our talent for prospects, looking at this teams past trades, do you trust that they would get quality young prospects in return. I mean Cody Reed is all we have left from the last rebuilt…. WOW!

      • Roger Garrett

        You right mudpuppie we may not get anything in return at all.I guess I would prefer just starting all over with new players.We certainly haven’t done much on our own in developing players and we certainly don’t have much that others may want so we are who we are.

  25. jim walker

    3 of 5 Cardinal runs were scored by runners who reached via walks or HBP. 2 of them were subsequently advanced an additional base via walks. Throw in a balk to advance another of them.

    4 runs should have been enough to win this game but weren’t because of the free passes given to the Cardinals.

  26. Don

    The Reds are playing “not to lose” and the Cards played to win.

    They are totally different goals.

    They got up 3-0 in the 2nd and when Galvis put them up by 2 again in the 3rd, they put the game in cruise control and went through the motions of playing until the 9th.

    The failed hit and run in the top of the 9th by Barnhardt and Galvis was very costly since it was followed by a Votto Double and two walks.

    One has to give the Cardinals credit, they know if they can keep it close vs the Reds they will figure out a way to win or the Reds will implode and give them the game.

    Not continuing to score and putting more runs on the board has been a problem all of 2019 and now 2020.

    The Reds are 23rd in runs/game (4.35) in 2020 after being 25th in 2019 (4.33).

    The Reds are 11th in ERA 4.17.

    The Reds are last in (Total Runs- Earned runs)/# of games player @ 0.696 runs/game.

    No offensive improvement in 2020 and allowing the most unearned runs per game is what is dooming the Reds as much as the bullpen implosions