Tonight the Cincinnati Reds (10-12) head to St. Louis to take on the Cardinals (6-7) in a match up of the National League Central teams that wear red. Both teams will be running out outstanding starting pitching as we’ll get the treat of Sonny Gray and Adam Wainwright facing off.

Starting Lineups

Cincinnati Reds

St. Louis Cardinals

Joey Votto – 1B Kolten Wong – 2B
Nick Castellanos – RF Tommy Edman – SS
Jesse Winker – LF Paul Goldschmidt – 1B
Eugenio Suárez – 3B Matt Carpenter – DH
Mike Moustakas – 2B Brad Miller – 3B
Shogo Akiyama – CF Tyler O’Neill – LF
Josh VanMeter – DH Dexter Fowler – RF
Freddy Galvis – SS Yadier Molina – C
Tucker Barnhart – C Dylan Carlson – CF
Sonny Gray – SP Adam Wainwright – SP

Left-handed hitters have historically had much more success against Adam Wainwright than right-handed hitters have, and the Reds have stacked the lineup with seven left-handed hitters to begin the game.

Starting Pitchers

Pitcher IP ERA WHIP BB% K%
Sonny Gray 30.2 2.05 0.91 4.2% 37.2%
Adam Wainwright 11.0 1.64 0.82 9.5% 19.1%
Links: Sonny Gray’s Stats | Adam Wainwright’s Stats

Sonny Gray

In 2020, the fact that Sonny Gray hasn’t been the best starter on the Reds staff is more about how insanely good Trevor Bauer has been than anything about how Gray hasn’t been something else. Gray has a 2.05 ERA with one of the best strikeout rates in the league, while the team has gone 4-1 in his five starts.

2020 Splits

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB% K% AVG OBP SLG
RHH 52 9 1 0 1 3.8% 46.2% .184 .231 .265
LHH 69 10 2 1 2 10.1% 30.4% .164 .261 .328

This season has seen Sonny Gray outclass both lefties and righties, but he’s on a different level against right-handed hitters this year so far. He’s got a 12-to-1 strikeout-to-walk ratio against them and he’s striking out an absurd 46.2% of them. Against left-handed hitters the strikeout rate is still impressive at 30.4%, but the walk rate is pretty high at 10.1%. They aren’t doing much damage when they do get the bat on the ball, but lefties have found more success than righties thus far.

Pitch Usage in 2020

4-Seam 2-Seam Slider Curve Change
Velo 93.7 93.2 83.4 81.2 89.0
Usage 29% 26% 20% 24% 1%

Two fastballs. Two breaking balls. Two change ups per game. That’s what you’re going to get from Sonny Gray on a typical day.

Adam Wainwright

The St. Louis Cardinals have only played 13 games this season, and Adam Wainwright has made just two starts. The first one came on July 25th, and then the last one came five days ago. He’s thrown a total of 150 pitches on the year – but the results in both starts have been strong as he’s given up just one run in each.

2019 Splits

With just two starts this season, current splits don’t mean much of anything. Here’s how his splits break down for last season:

Split PA H 2B 3B HR BB% K% AVG OBP SLG
vsRHH 402 97 21 1 8 4.7% 22.6% .262 .310 .389
vsLHH 343 84 17 2 14 13.1% 18.1% .288 .380 .503

Left-handed hitters saw the ball much better against Wainwright, showing nearly three times the walk rate, a lower strikeout rate, and significantly more power than right-handed hitters showed against him in 2019.

Pitch Usage in 2020

4-Seam 2-Seam Cutter Curve Change
Velo 89.8 89.9 86.2 74.2 83.0
Usage 11% 33% 27% 27% 3%

The pitch usage in 2020 isn’t much different than it has been in past seasons for Adam Wainwright, which is why we went ahead and used the 2020 data. You’re not going to see much change up, or much velocity from the Cardinals right-handed pitcher.

When and Where

  • Game time: 8:15pm ET
  • Where: St. Louis’ Busch Stadium
  • Watch: Fox Sports Ohio, MLB.tv
  • Listen: 700 WLW AM (Cincinnati area)
  • Forecast: 79°, sunny, 0% chance of rain.

NL Central Standings

Team Wins Losses GB
Cubs 16 8
Brewers 11 11 4.0
Cardinals 6 7 4.5
Reds 10 12 5.0
Pirates 4 16 10.0

News and Notes

Joey Votto has had some success against Adam Wainwright in their careers, as shown by Joel Luckhaupt.

Trevor Bauer’s good

We’ll let our tweet from earlier today speak for itself:

Multiple Reds players speak out

115 Responses

  1. RedNat

    This is a huge weekend for Bell. With all the distractions can he get the team focused and lead the team to at least 2 victories?

  2. Sliotar

    Adam Wainwright has been the starting pitcher vs. the Reds, beginning in 2007.

    No wonder the Cardinals haunt some of us … they never seem to finish under .500 and some of their players never retire. (See also – Reds Killer Yadier Molina).

    FanGraphs has Brewers/Reds/Cardinals all in a dead heat at the moment, finishing 31-29 or 30-30.

    Time to sort some things out. Go Redlegs.

    • Doug Gray

      Joey Votto. Adam Wainwright. Two peas in a pod. Or something.

      • Sliotar

        Ha!

        The stories they could share, sitting down together.

      • Doug Gray

        I’m sure they’ve got quite a few. 14 years each in the big leagues – that’s a lot of time, and I’m sure, a lot of great stories.

  3. TR

    Three out of four, at least, are needed in St. Louis before the Reds head to Milwaukee for four.

  4. Vada

    Votto leading off makes as much sense as Votto pitching. Bell know ZIP about baseball.

  5. Vada

    Even if Votto gets on base it will take about 2-3 hits to bring this old man home.

    • Doug Gray

      It beats him not getting on base and it taking 3-4 hits to bring anyone home, right?

  6. vared

    I seriously hope the guy goes 5-5, but something seems terribly wrong when the best thing you have to throw out there for a DH is .071.

    • Doc

      Hasn’t van Meter now, after the eighth inning whiff, struck out nearly 50% of the time. Some things just don’t make sense…like why is he on the 28 man and why is he a designated HITTER, when he not only can’t get a hit, he can’t hit the ball to make an out.

      • Melvin

        Seems like Bell thinks the DH spot is for our weakest hitters. Once Winker started hitting he put him in the field and inserted another weak hitter. LOL If that’s the thinking why don’t we just use a relief pitcher that can’t pitch that day. Speaking of relief pitchers has Lorenzen been used in the field or have ANY AB this year? He’s used to that and it may just help his mindset so that he can think about something besides pitching and as a result be a better pitcher.

  7. Klugo

    I dont have a good feeling about this one. 4-0 DirtyBirds.

  8. Old-school

    The first phase of the season is over. It’s NL central sorting time and it starts now. Cardinals, Brewers, Cubs over and over. Must see TV.

    • Frankie Tomatoes

      Would be a huge thing for the team to put on a run here of 9-3 or 10-2 in this stretch. Gonna be greedy with this request.

  9. Wayne Nabors

    Agree it is time for a run of some type anyway,already a 3rd into season,really need to get this 1st win with back in of rotation coming up

  10. Grand Salami

    A lot of pessimism on the thread before first pitch. This team is poised for a run. Everyone but Senzel in the lineup. Bullpen will settle down this series and we will shock the Nati by taking 3-4

  11. Preach

    CB Buckner behind the plate. Everyone ready for an adventure?

    • Mark Moore

      He was oddly tight with Sonny in the 1st. At least, that’s what I saw on a few of those called strikes.

      • Preach

        Give it a couple innings. Who knows where he’s going to call ’em

  12. Preach

    Cards playing little league defense

  13. Mark Moore

    And then THAT happened … this time to THEM!!!

    • Roger Garrett

      I thought the same thing Mark cause it sure looked like our guys out there.We will take it because you just knew we were not going to score on our own.Good at bat by Moose to just hit a fly ball to score the run.

  14. doofus

    Aw, Fiddlesticks! I did not know that MLB had a VP of Social Responsibility and Inclusion. Why did it take so long?!

  15. Mark Moore

    Nice, strong start by Sonny … perhaps he and Trevor have a little competition wager?

  16. doofus

    ““The layoff was very tough,” Votto said. “Personally, I showed it the first game back, making that error, and then looking sloppy offensively. It’s really, really tough pausing in the middle of a Major League Baseball season.””

    Earth to Joseph Daniel, your defense has always been abysmal. Your best hitting days are way behind you. You should retire gracefully. Or, become the new MLB VP of Social Responsibility and Inclusion.

    • Doug Gray

      Always?

      Votto’s been a very good defender at times in the past.

  17. Mark Moore

    Too bad JVM hadn’t laid off that one … then again, this is JVM we’re talking about.

  18. Mark Moore

    Would appear Wainright isn’t fooling anyone tonight … except for JVM (let’s hope that changes).

    • Doug Gray

      Did he fool him? He hit the ball at 95 MPH off the bat and the expected average on that batted ball is .470. Sometimes you hit it at guys.

      • Mark Moore

        Talking about the swing and miss for the first strike vs. laying off the same pitch that would have been ball 4. I agree he hit it in the end.

  19. Preach

    I like seeing these back-to-back base hits. Can’t always score with a long ball

  20. Mark Moore

    So why won’t our guys try that slap bunt against the shift? Didn’t work for Carpenter, but it would have caught everyone off guard.

  21. Mark Moore

    C’mon Sonny … dial it back in!

  22. Mark Moore

    Hate it especially when The Neck beats us …

    • earmbrister

      Totally agree Deb. Ticks me off to no end.

      • Mark Moore

        Oh THERE you are … Debbie likes that you are back.

      • earmbrister

        Thnx M&M. Seems like the Reds are always giving up runs when I sign on though …

  23. Redsfandownunder

    How many more times must we see Josh VanMeter at DH? Free Aquino!

  24. Frankie Tomatoes

    Sonny isn’t throwing strikes tonight. He’s thrown as many balls as strikes. Better turn it around.

  25. earmbrister

    Never easy vs the Cards. The offense better continue to put runs on the board.

  26. Don

    thank you Fowler for somehow not going 1st to 3rd on Molina’s bases loaded single and the throw home trying to get the runner from 2nd. They next fly ball to center and you would have scored to tie the game.

    Thank you for helping our Reds keep a lead.

  27. Mark Moore

    OK, JVM … you have ONE JOB here!

  28. Mark Moore

    Debbie doesn’t like that … not one bit.

  29. Frankie Tomatoes

    Sonny has to stop walking people.

    • Mark Moore

      Totally different approach than the 1st inning. Glad Buckner saw that last one as the strike it was. Seemed to take a bit of pride in ringing him up.

  30. earmbrister

    seems like Suarez never swings until he’s down 0-2

  31. Roger Garrett

    Bats have gone silent.Wainwright only at 71 pitches and we had lots of baserunners first 3 innings.Reds hacking away for sure.Just have to a be a little more patient and make him work.

    • earmbrister

      Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

  32. Sliotar

    Seeing-eye hit by Edman.

    Winker is never going to reach where it was landing.

    I liked the Ole Sweep attempt by Suarez.

  33. Roger Garrett

    Reds are just so non aware of what is going on at any moment of the game.Sonny is battling and we come up and go down on 9 pitches.He barely got to set down at all.We are just so clueless.

  34. earmbrister

    Gray’s pitches are suddenly up in the zone

  35. Mark Moore

    Almost got Bucknered … but the clean DP saves it.

  36. Don

    thank you again Fowler for swinging 3-0 and weekly grounding into the DP. You are helping the Reds a lot today

  37. Gonzo Reds

    Decision time on Gray. He blew up in 7th before but do we trust the pen for 3?

    Really enjoying the broadcast team tonite. Let’s keep ‘em!

    • Gonzo Reds

      Good decision so far. Sims money!

  38. Old-school

    Sims nasty. Finish a good baseball game. This is how you win.

  39. Sliotar

    If Iglesias falters at all in home stretch of regular season or in playoffs … Lucas Sims should be the guy to close out games.

    His stuff is playing something nasty in 2020.

  40. Roger Garrett

    17 hitters up and 17 down for us until Eugenio walks.Just can’t win that way at any time against anybody.Guys are just wailing away.Goodness.

    • Frankie Tomatoes

      The Reds are currently winning the game.

      • Roger Garrett

        Not because they have hit but because the Cards threw the ball around and fell asleep on the bases.They may still win but not because of the way they hit it.

  41. Frankie Tomatoes

    Perhaps it’s time to get the punisher in to be the designated hitter.

  42. FreeHouse

    Josh Van Meter is just awful. Many of his at bats come with runners on and he never capitalizes. Free Aquino!

  43. Roger Pedactor

    “Play Josh Van Meter every day.” – Doug Gray, roughly 87 times in 2019

    • Doug Gray

      And I stand by that comment for the 2019 season. In 2020, the options available are quite a bit different, particularly at second base and in the outfield, where Josh VanMeter plays. Weirdo.

      • Roger Pedactor

        That’s an odd way to say that you were completely wrong. Also, personal attack! Moderate!

      • Doug Gray

        My man, while I appreciate a good Ace Ventura reference, you spelled Pedacter incorrectly. But also, someone saying play a guy every day in 2019 has absolutely nothing at all to do with 2020.

        I’ll just go ahead and moderate you into oblivion, though. I don’t have time to deal with trolls. Have fun elsewhere, dork.

  44. Mark Moore

    I’m generally a patient man … but I really don’t see the value JVM brings, especially when the only requirement for the night is his bat. It’s far more like an automatic out than a challenge. Not sure if The Punisher is the answer or not, but perhaps …

    Hey – at least AG nailed his work and sat them back down. 3 more outs. Actual save opportunity here for Iggy.

  45. Mark Moore

    Missed hit-and-run? Makes more sense than Freddy on a straight steal.

    Moot point as Tucker continues to be Tucker at the plate.

  46. FreeHouse

    Let’s see how Iggy pitches off a rest. Iggy is best on consecutive games.

  47. Mark Moore

    And the Cards get Bucknered … way to wait it out Jesse.

  48. Mark Moore

    Who said it? Does Geno HAVE to go 0-2 before the bat comes off the shoulder?

    First one is the kind he was sending out of the park last year.

    • earmbrister

      I did say it earlier. Was about to say it again when I saw your comment.

      He needs a shot of expresso before coming out to bat.

      • Mark Moore

        Well … Deborah is not fond of his approach to plate appearances.

      • earmbrister

        I’m right there with ya. Those first 2 pitches tend to be well within the strike zone.

        He didn’t have the excuse of the bases being loaded in the earlier AB.

  49. RoseyDay

    Anybody else worried that pinch running Jankowski is going to come back and bite them?

  50. Mark Moore

    I’m almost afraid to watch …

  51. Roger Garrett

    Just a great example of what this team does and has done for so long.Lead off guy is caught stealing and we know it couldn’t have been a straight steal and our clean up hitter takes two strikes with the bases full and then chases for strike three.You can just script it almost every time and we will still win this game.Go figure.

  52. Mark Moore

    C’mon Iggy … you are so very vocal about wanting a save. This is one …

  53. Preach

    Nothing’s ever easy with this bullpen, huh?

  54. Mark Moore

    And it’s the Neck Tattoo … how apt

  55. Preach

    Bases loaded, no outs, and Molina at the plate. I’ve seen this movie before. I didn’t like it

  56. Preach

    A balk to tie it. Why am I not really surprised?

  57. Mark Moore

    Well, good night all … that’s the nail in the coffin.

  58. earmbrister

    Yeah, I’m out also. Disgusted

  59. RedAlert

    Bell sitting there like a bump on a log – unbelievable

  60. Gonzo Reds

    And my daily comment is back…

    Great start by (insert today Gray). Once again bullpen implosion by (insert Iglesias).

  61. Frankie Tomatoes

    I’ve officially seen it all. An infield single followed up by a balk with the bases loaded to tie the game up? This team has taken years off of my life.

  62. FreeHouse

    Time to start the rebuild again. This bullpen stinks!

  63. Jon

    Time to release Iglesias? Horrible for the 2nd consecutive season…

  64. Sliotar

    LOL.

    That kind of ending vs. the Cardinals, especially in Saint Louis, feels like it has been going on all my life.

  65. RedAlert

    This team team and manager are a
    complete joke – And yet absolutely nothing changes – another wasted evening
    watching this Clown show

  66. JoshG

    Why would Bell not walk the bases loaded.. set up a force at the plate ??

  67. Doc

    Signing out for 2020. See you in 2021…maybe. Incompetence abounds. I guess Iglesius will need to find some new excuse. This wasn’t the 7th inning of a close game.