After an off day yesterday, the Cincinnati Reds (7-9) are back at Great American Ball Park to take on the Kansas City Royals (7-10) in the first game of a two-game inter league series and the first of a six-game home stand. First pitch is at 6:40 ET. It can be viewed or listened to on the usual channels within the Cincinnati viewing area: Fox Sports Ohio for TV and 700 WLW for radio.

The Royals come to town on a hot streak, having beaten the Chicago Cubs by a score of 13-2 on Thursday and sweeping the Minnesota Twins in three games over the weekend.

Starting Pitchers

Name IP ERA FIP xFIP WHIP K% BB%
Kris Bubic 10.0 3.60 3.97 3.95 1.00 22.5% 7.5%
Luis Castillo 17.0 4.76 1.73 2.15 1.41 35.1% 8.1%

Royals

Twenty-two-year-old rookie southpaw Kris Bubic was drafted in the CBA round of the 2018 MLB draft. Last year he was pitching in High-A ball, so he’s a player who probably would not have made the big league team had it not been for COVID-19 and the weird season we are witnessing. Bubic made his major league debut on July 31 against the White Sox. He pitched four innings and gave up two earned runs on three hits with three strikeouts and a walk. He then faced the other Chicago team five days later and surrendered only two runs while striking out six and walking two in six innings.

The sixth-ranked prospect in the Royals organization according to Baseball Savant and MLB.com, Bubic has three pitches. He throws his four seam fastball and his change up most often, while occasionally mixing in a curve. He doesn’t have top velocity. Bubic’s fastball has topped out at 92 mph this season, while his breaking pitches are around 80-82 mph.

Reds

Tonight Luis Castillo tries to bounce back from a subpar performance on Thursday when he allowed three runs on four hits in a loss to the Indians. Castillo has had an interesting start to the season. After pitching brilliantly in his first start, he responded by giving up five runs on eight hits to the Tigers the second time he faced them. He didn’t have any control problems in his first two starts, but against Cleveland, he walked four batters.

Some of Castillo’s troubles can be solved by pointing to his BABIP of .415. He’s had some really bad luck in his first three starts. Batters are putting the ball in play against him. While he’s getting ground balls (26 of them, to be precise), they are finding open space. Castillo does still have that gorgeous change up working for him, however; and it’s a reason why his K% is incredibly high, despite his BABIP also being high.

Castillo has faced just one Royals hitter. Maikel Franco is hitting .167 off him in six total at-bats.

Lineup

ROYALS REDS
1. Whit Merrifield (CF)
2. Jorge Soler (DH)
3. Salvador Perez (C)
4. Hunter Dozier (RF)
5. Ryan O’Hearn (1B)
6. Adalberto Mondesi (SS)
7. Maikel Franco (3B)
8. Alex Gordon (LF)
9. Nicky Lopez (2B)
1. Nick Senzel (CF)
2. Nick Castellanos (RF)
3. Joey Votto (1B)
4. Eugenio Suarez (3B)
5. Matt Davidson (DH)
6. Jesse Winker (LF)
7. Curt Casali (C)
8. Christian Colon (2B)
9. Kyle Farmer (SS)

Fun fact you may not have realized about the Royals: Alex Gordon has been in the major leagues since 2007 and has played for Kansas City his entire career. He’s the Joey Votto of the Royals.

News and Notes

I wrote some words this morning about David Bell pulling starters “early”.

Reds Manager David Bell Isn’t Pulling His Starters Too Early

Checking in at Prasco Park

Over at RedsMinorLeagues.com Doug Gray shared insights from reliever Joel Kuhnel about how things were operating at Prasco Park for the “alternate site” roster players and how they are going about trying to stay game ready.

Joel Kuhnel talks about his time at Prasco Park with the Reds

Trevor Bauer shares what it’s like during a rain delay in 2020

Trevor Bauer is recording vlogs during this crazy season and I highly recommend checking them out. I know Bauer isn’t liked among some people, but even if you aren’t a fan of his, it’s fun to get a glimpse behind the scenes of this 2020 season. The most recent one posted below has some fun teammate interactions.

(Note: there is strong language in this particular vlog. Do with that information what you want).

 

Final Thoughts

Taking two out of three in Milwaukee was a big deal for the Reds. Even though they lost Sunday, winning the series gives them a bit of momentum and confidence going into a home stand against the Royals and Pirates that they should win. This team currently has a 59.6% chance to make the playoffs, according to Fangraphs. I like those odds.

307 Responses

  1. Mark Moore

    Good to see Senzel back. A little puzzled as to Colon over JVM … but I supposed it’s all in the Lefty/Righty cards. Farmer at SS … Freddy needed 2 days of for some reason?

    Regardless, let’s take it to the Royals!!

    • Redsfan4life

      Looks as if Galvis is going to sit most games against a LHP.

  2. ClevelandRedsFan

    Reds only have 4 starters hitting over .200 in the lineup. Ouch.

    I still like the Reds chances to clean up on KC even though they are hot right now.

    • Redsfan4life

      Batting averages looks to be down all over baseball. Pitchers throwing harder every year. Def. shifts. Hitters either can’t or won’t try to beat the shifts. So half of the plays are either a BB,K or a HR.
      I still love the game but I miss the hit and run. Guys who could bunt for a hit. Not the sac bunt I have always hated that. I miss the stolen base. I miss guys putting the ball in play for back to back to back base hits.
      We just don’t see those things much anymore.

      • Mark Moore

        +99 (so it’s an even number of points).

        I think it borders on “can’t” based on what I’m seeing. They just don’t get that type of instruction and, by the time they hit the majors, few of them seem to be content playing small ball, especially that particular variant.

        Here’s to some of them proving me wrong. Kind of like the softball challenge scene from the movie “Gung Ho” and all the bunting at George Wendt’s character.

    • Woodrow Thedaug

      Why not Galvis at this point?

  3. seadog

    I am glad to see Senzel in CF. This defense is a dumpster fire waiting to light. Colon/Farmer Come on man–we can do better. This line-up has to be the worst (defensive) That I have ever seen on a Red’s club Ever, look at it I hope they hit 4 hrs today. They will need it. Errors/bullpen will come back to haunt –mark my words;;;

  4. Indy Red Man

    I like their lineup better, but their dude was in a single A last year? Cmon? Make him work and take it the other way. Soft tossing lefties were hard on us when we had a B+ lineup! The Reds could put up a big crooked number on this kid or we could play nip-n-tuck and count on our pen late. That I wouldn’t recommend

    • Chris

      Is Acquino dead or something? Why is he not at least playing vs LHP’s??

      • Doug Gray

        Wayne – unless Aquino learned to play second, short, and third base, then he and Colon aren’t playing for the same roster spot. So complaining that Colon is on the team and Aquino isn’t is basically complaining that Tucker Barnhart is taking the spot from a reliever. It doesn’t make much sense.

      • Melvin

        Why he’s not on the active roster is a mystery indeed to say the least. No one including Joey Votto has a month on his resume like Aquino had last August. Some might say it was luck. Well maybe after on week, Maybe after two weeks. After a whole month? No way. That is big time talent we’re not even trying to use. If we could get him going he could carry us. Don’t want to sound like it should be a rush though. After all we are hitting about .200 as a team and still have a whole 44 games left. Some might say the pitchers figured him out last September and that’s why he couldn’t hit anymore. NO WAY. With all of the advanced scouting it doesn’t take a month. It barely even takes a day for crying out loud. He needs confidence which the Reds seemingly don’t seem to care about. If there is one player I’d give a little extra time to get it going it would be him. At least he’s close to Kings Island. 🙂 Maybe the Reds game him a Gold Pass. I’ve had one for many years. It’s cool. In my opinion for whatever it’s worth, we kinda sorta need him though. He can ride the Orion and Diamondback later.

  5. seadog

    Doug, I feel your pain. I know you put on “Twitter” that you are done with these “internet people”. I am one of those. Wayne ask a good question, in his own way. Why no Aquino? We all know he can’t play 2nb. My question is why Colon?? Why Colon?? There is no reason for him to be on this team or bench for that matter.

    Please give me one good reason why he is on this team? Other than he was a “1st round pick”. There is none

    • Wayne Nabors

      Thanks seadog,it was a rhetorical question, I know aquino is not an infielder

    • Melvin

      I agree about the roster. We have the DH. Why do we need so many light hitting backups. Farmer can play anywhere in a pinch. Why not have as many of our best bats on the active roster as possible. If we’re going to have backups one of them should be a good defensive infielder like Garcia for late game replacements like we have in the outfield. Speaking of the outfield. Janko was supposed to be used, from what I’ve read, mainly for a runner at second base in an extra inning game. That hasn’t exactly worked out. The only times we’ve been close to needing him in that scenario he’s already played and out of the game. Lorenzen is a very good defensive outfielder and runs pretty well. Using him other than pitching, like he’s used to, could possibly help his mindset right now. Colon and Jankowski are basically wasted roster spots IMO.

    • Doug Gray

      He can play four spots on the infield and right now the Reds need guys who can do that.

      If you want to ask why he’s playing so much, that’s a very different question. But why he’s on the roster? Because he can play short and second base, making him one of three guys who can actually do that on the roster, so on a typical day, he’s the only backup shortstop on the entire team.

      • Seadog

        I believe you are taking about Colon in this post correct?

      • Melvin

        I guess I don’t understand why we need a backup SS so much with the DH. How often does that happen? It’s not like catching. Other players can slide over in a pinch without killing us in case of an in game injury.

      • Doug Gray

        I don’t know how often it happens, but what happens on Saturday and Sunday if the shortstop of second baseman gets hurt? Who plays there? You only had Galvis, Farmer, and Colon as middle infield options. Today you added VanMeter, so you can do things a little different now – but he was absolutely needed (or at least some other guy who could play SS/2B) last week on the roster.

      • seadog

        Nope—you are talking about Farmer. Agree 100%. With him on this team. Why have Colon? Why?? Makes no sense

      • Melvin

        Good point about VanMeter up now. Do we need four? Also in a pinch we have Suarez. As I said earlier if we do want a backup infielder for those situations who doesn’t play very much Garcia would make more sense as he can play pretty good defense. Our infield defense needs strengthening.

  6. Ron

    The Reds need to put the pedal to the metal this week.

    I can’t decide if Chris Welsh is looking more like Peter Cushing or Christopher Lee.

    • Sliotar

      Haha.

      I flip over from the hockey (thought it would have been over by now) … and this is the first comment I read.

      Well played.

  7. gusnwally

    Where is the game I have hockey on Fox sports Ohio??

      • gusnwally

        Thanks but not on my fioptics, but I did find it way far away from Fox sports Ohio

      • Show Triple Slash

        Spectrum 310 for me. Thanks Mark Sheldon Twitter.

      • Kay McCullough

        THANKS! We had no idea what the heck was going on! :/

  8. Mark Moore

    Well THAT was an adventure … glad we escaped it without any lasting damage.

  9. Mark Moore

    Goes right after our bigger hitters … seemed “scared” of tonight’s DH. A base runner it is …

  10. Mark Moore

    Nice to see the highly variable strike zone again tonight … #eyeroll

    Way to work it, Wink!

  11. Mark Moore

    That just might have been the least obnoxious outcome …

  12. Roger Garrett

    Wink needs to be moved up in the batting order please.

  13. Mark Moore

    40 pitches, still 2 outs, 2 runs in

    I’d say that all worked out OK for us.

  14. VaRedsFan

    Farmer has been hitting the ball hard lately….Good AB there.

  15. Old-school

    David Bell pregame was asked why Galvis not in lineup. He said every team has their core guys, but also need others to win. Kyle Farmer is an excellent defensive shortstop and he gets the nod today.

    Big hit with 2 [email protected] should be pleased.

  16. Roger Garrett

    Big two out hit by Farmer.That was kind of inning where we usually get nothing after the first two got on.I liked we put the ball in play.

  17. Mark Moore

    Playing infield for your Cincinnati Reds … the Keystone Cops!

  18. JB

    Obviously Perez’s speed is making them hurry. (Roll of eyes)

  19. Roger Garrett

    Castillo not looking good at all.He is trouble again which happens way too much with him when we give him a lead.He’s got to be better.

    • VaRedsFan

      Defense let him down. 5 outs this inning. (so far)

  20. Mark Moore

    Castillo not helping his own cause here …

  21. Melvin

    Winker played that off the wall pretty good. I give him credit.

    • Mark Moore

      Yes, he actually did. And Castellanos tracked the last out to the wall just fine.

  22. Mark Moore

    So tell me … why does only one run here feel like a gift?

    Asking for some friends …

    • Jefferson Green

      Yeah, that one had the feel of an inning of disaster. Good plays by Winker and Castellanos.

  23. Roger Garrett

    Little league play.Im done for tonight.Good grief.

  24. Old-school

    Joey Votto is old and just cant play defense or run anymore. Suarez and Galvis are sloppy. We are watching why Zach Cozart was so good defensively. Castellanos and Winker have made solid plays in the OF.

    • VaRedsFan

      Physical errors are part of the game. You just hope they don’t cost you. Suarez messes a lot of routine plays up….he had all day to get the catcher running, but he tried to make the hero play.

  25. Mark Moore

    SWEEEEEET!!

    Now, Joey, let’s make up the ground we gave up.

  26. Mark Moore

    Uh … Nick gave Joey the stink-eye, didn’t he?

  27. Mark Moore

    Oh.Brother. Talking missed opportunity here.

  28. VaRedsFan

    The 2 error-makers couldn’t get a man in from 3rd base with a simple fly ball, so Matty D brings him in the on a trot.

  29. Mark Moore

    That’s it, Wink!! Touch ’em all!

  30. RedsMonk65

    Let’s have a good ole fashioned blowout!

  31. TR

    Wink gets it done against a lefthanded pitcher. How about that.

    • ClevelandRedsFan

      Winker has hit lefties twice in the last week. That’s how you become an everyday player.

  32. Old-school

    Could Votto and Suarez have had a worse inning? Both had little league errors and then Votto with a 45 mph squibber and Suarez with a K after a lead off triple? Of course, Davidson and Winker with back to back HR. Conventional wisdom turning upside down.

    • Jefferson Green

      I wonder if Castellanos or Mous has anything to share with either of them.

  33. Jefferson Green

    I guess Farmer can play SS.

  34. docproc

    Good defensive plays by Winker, Castellanos, and Farmer.
    Bad defensive plays by Suarez, Votto, and Senzel.
    Go figure.

    • Mark Moore

      That run scores even if Senzel fields it cleanly. Fading looper, not running straight on, runner was already half way. Just my opinion …

      • Jefferson Green

        Replay seemed to show that he held up until the ball got away from Nick.

  35. Kay McCullough

    Hey, why is there HOCKEY instead of the Reds ball game on Fox Sports Ohio? Please check your listing! Someone has goofed! 🙁

  36. Don

    2nd worse defense in the league strikes again.
    Now 15 unearned runs in 16.5 games , only Giants have more (16 in 18 games).
    To many free runs given up.

    • Don

      Make that 16 unearned runs, worst defense in all of MLB.

      • Don

        looks like Mondesi was safe even without the drop by Votto.
        so still only 15 runs.

      • VaRedsFan

        He was probably safe, but ump might call him out an replay is too close to call. CATCH the ball Joey. Footwork was hosed up too, his foot was laying across the entire bag

  37. Jefferson Green

    Another nice play by Farmer.

    • Don

      Farmer and Colon are playing good defense today.

      Great tag at 2nd on Mondesi

  38. Mark Moore

    A little surprised we won that challenge … but happy about it.

    I’m thinking that might have been La Piedra’s last inning?

    • VaRedsFan

      Shocked by the overturned call too

  39. Jack

    The bullpen is not good enough to keep giving up unearned runs to keep it close.

  40. Jack

    Not to mention the extra outs Castillo had to get means he won’t go more than 6 now

  41. Don

    Votto and Suarez need to do something on offense to make up for their bad defense

    • Jack

      How can Votto choke up that much and still be so far behind a fastball?

    • VaRedsFan

      Does a half swing strikeout and weak tapper to 3rd (and then loaf down the line) qualify?

    • Indy Red Man

      Well it doesn’t help Suarez that they call high strikes on him like he’s Castellanos’s height

  42. Mark Moore

    And we manage 6 out of him … with the lead.

    Now, who does Bell call on at this point?

    • Doug Gray

      Nate Jones was reportedly getting ready in the bullpen, so I’m guessing it’s his 7th.

  43. Indy Red Man

    Joey….it’s been great, but it’s time to opt out. We’ll give you a huge parting gift. The errors and daily stranded runners at 3rd are one thing, but I KNOW you dogged that double into a single.

    I’m at a casino, and dad bod Jay Bruce hit the same exact ball and strolled into 2nd.

    • Mark Moore

      Sad to say, I think you are correct. He’s just not the Joey we remember. It’s sad, but it happens.

    • JB

      Outfielders were all playing on the warning track. No way he was getting a double on that.

      • Indy Red Man

        Respectfully disagree. They never play him to pull in the OF so the RF had to run pretty far and couldn’t throw accurately. Hustle and he makes it

    • VaRedsFan

      I’m still in the camp that it’s mostly his approach rather than age-related skill decline. He just might to stubborn to admit that the choked up crouch approach doesn’t work.

  44. Mark Moore

    And Davidson couldn’t have done that?

  45. Preach

    Said JVM replaced Strop on the active roster. I guess that’s good. Since they hit the same.

  46. Mark Moore

    The Flex-O-Zone is back … terrible, inconsistent calls.

    • Mark Moore

      I suppose that went our way with Wink … but I’d still rather a consistent, accurate zone.

      • Preach

        CB Buckner is the worst. Period. There are a couple others close, but he’s awful.

  47. seadog

    Game is on now —Hopefully Doug is right. Jones comes in. This bullpen has to cover 3 innings most nights. Jones/Antone/Mahle etc/ Iggy. If Lorenzen is allowed in this game it would be a true travesty.

  48. Jack

    Does Castillo go for 1 more? The last inning was probably the easiest he has had

    • Jack

      Nah, Nate Jones. At least there’s no one on, he’s good for a wild pitch or 2

  49. Jack

    wow, double clutch by Farmer costs yet another baserunner

  50. VaRedsFan

    Soler is on the no fastball list….yet there it was.

    • Preach

      I was thinking the same thing. And a 1-2 pitch Letter high down the middle. We’re lucky that wouldn’t didn’t get fished out of the river

  51. Don

    my only questions is do the bullpen keep the number of runs in single digits or do the royals get to 10 tonight.

    • Jack

      Really limits his use, you can’t bring him in except to start an inning

    • Melvin

      According to David Bell…..no. We only bring in Garret AFTER we’ve given up runs. Looks like we got lucky this time. Our defense is not very good. It was a good pick by Farmer but actually he should have gotten in front if it in case the ball got through his glove. It would have saved a run.

  52. Preach

    Has he thrown a fastball tonight that has NOT been 96 miles per hour?

  53. Jack

    What exactly is Bell seeing that makes him stay with Nate?

    • Jack

      Jeez, better to be lucky than good. He killed that ball.

    • VaRedsFan

      Because he is locked into 1 pitcher per inning. He even said as much the other day.
      Is it that hard to manage on the fly?

    • RedsMonk65

      Nate Jones needs to buy him dinner.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      He needs to get some consecutive starts so we can see if he has more of what he has shown tonight!

  54. Don

    wow, bell takes out the two players whom hit HR to score runs in the 6th and then lets a pitcher whom cannot find the strike zone with an up that calls anything in the ballpark a strike with the bases loaded.

    This is a mystery

    • Jack

      Yeah, it is way too early in the game to take out offense. Not like they have a shutdown bullpen.

  55. Preach

    Jones got lucky. That could have changed the whole game right there

  56. JB

    That Farmer sure is playing good defense.

    • VaRedsFan

      I don’t know about his range, but he makes every play he can get too.

  57. Preach

    Ok, the Reds game just went off spectrum all together.

    • VaRedsFan

      MLB network…at least for out of market people

      • Old-school

        Well tell us what’s going on…cuz no reds in Cincinnati. We have hockey in August and kickboxing.. somebody do play by play

      • Preach

        They are giving me the Blue Jays / Marlins extravaganza. Because that’s what Ohio sports fans want to see

      • Preach

        A game no one would be in the stands for even without COVID-19

  58. Old-school

    I lost the game . Replaced by boxing? Anyone else?

  59. Old-school

    I lost the game . Replaced by boxing? Anyone else?

  60. docproc

    ARGH–JUST LOST THE REDS FEED TO KICKBOXING!

  61. Don

    Thom just mentioned that they are working on getting the Reds game back on the local TV

    Senzel has 2 out single in 7th

  62. JB

    Holy cow the Blue Jackets game is still going?

  63. VaRedsFan

    Senzel hit the ball hard 3 times tonight….finally rewarded.

  64. Mark Moore

    Nice work by Senzel … but not enough outs in that inning.

  65. gusnwally

    the hockey just ended after 5 OT’s

    • Don

      wow, that is a long hockey game or any game, 6 hours???

    • Old-school

      And we get talking heads hockey…sigh

    • docproc

      Just said they’re coming back with postgame coverage. Of hockey.

  66. RedsMonk65

    RATS

    Just not meant to be easy, is it?

  67. JB

    Unbelievable. I just cant watch this bullpen anymore.

  68. VaRedsFan

    Garrett is not the answer either…He’s been Wandy Peralta. 1 or 2 good months last year…trash ever since.

  69. Jack

    Well that sucks, makes you wish those 2 guys who hit homeruns were still in the game

    • Jack

      I hate the way Bell chases a single run with pinch runners replacing hot hitters when all evidence to date shows they are going to need more offense than that.

  70. Mark Moore

    Not tonight AG … not tonight.

  71. JB

    Nice play by Castellanos. Garrett isnt fooling anybody now.

  72. Don

    Another bullpen implosion

    Need to score more runs

  73. Gonzo Reds

    Insert:

    Great start by our SP. Once again our bullpen has choked!

    Man I’m tired of posting the same thing day after day after day after day after day after day after day…

    • Don

      add the need to note that the defense had another error which leads to another unearned run which makes a starter get extra outs

  74. Old-school

    So Garrett completes the bullpen implosion of 2020.

  75. VaRedsFan

    Good thing Jankowski is in the lineup now, instead of Winker.

    • Melvin

      His turn to play? 🙂 Would have rather had Lorenzen for defense. Would still have his bat too.

  76. Don

    Iglesias in a non-save situation, will get interesting.

  77. JB

    Iglesias in. Someone , anyone please stand up and take the job as a 7th or 8th inning guy.

    • Don

      fielding errors in 2nd inning resulted in Castillo having to throw 12 extra pitches which means he does not start the 7th.

  78. VaRedsFan

    They put kickboxing on so you guys didn’t have to witness what was about to happen.

  79. RedsFan11

    Where does this bullpen rank in history through first 20? Has to historically be bad

  80. Old-school

    I walk Out to mow my yard up 5-1 and come back to this? Hockey and boxing and Cant watch the game on tv and bullpen implodes. 2020 sucks.

  81. Mark Moore

    Our old friend and prospect Yonder Alonso is now a Padre.

  82. docproc

    Okay, looks like the game is back on FSN-Ohio on my Cinci Bell cable feed.

  83. Hanawi

    Have mentioned it before, but part of the blame definitely has to fall on the front office for not getting at least one more high quality arm in the offseason. Nate Jones and Pedro Strop aren’t going to headline a WS winning bullpen.

  84. RedsMonk65

    Votto-Suarez-Van Meter

    Royal killers

    ???

    • Don

      Not Suarez swinging at strike 3, 8 inches outside

    • Don

      JVM, warning track, just underneath it

  85. Roger Garrett

    Just an awful baseball team has played an awful game tonight.Bonehead plays in the field,Joey and Eugenio are just clueless at the plate and still get the most at bats,two guys that provided most of the offense replaced by guys with 3 or 4 hits between them for the season.Just can’t beat anybody playing like this nor managing like this.Its time for a team meeting or something because it ain’t working.

    • RedsMonk65

      Hard to disagree at the moment.

  86. Mark Moore

    This just in … Geno still lost at the plate. Adds sloppy fielding to the mix (again).

  87. RedsMonk65

    Van Meter clobbers one — but just short. Man, I thought maybe that was it.

    Now up to Jankowski

    • Mark Moore

      He gave it a ride … so close.

    • Jack

      Could have been Winker but no, thanks Bell. I can see a pinch runner in 8th or 9th but replacing your best hitters in the 6th? madness

      • RedsMonk65

        Certainly was not a move I would have made. Guys are hitting — they stay in.

  88. Roger Garrett

    Jankowski has no business being in the game.Wink has been on fire and he was pulled for defense.Did anybody think we weren’t going to need some more runs?

    • Grand Salami

      Yup. We now have a line up featuring JvM and Jankowski in the middle of the lineup and we still need runs. Wants a win and over managed.

    • Don

      he was put in as a pinch runner for winker in the 6th after a walk with one out already. Casali then hits into DP.

      I guess Bell has not watch the bullpen and he thought a 5-3 lead would be help by the bullpen for 9 outs.

      Not sure if that is confidence or insanity

  89. Old-school

    I missed some innings. Why is Jankowski hitting for Winker in the 6 hole in a tie game when Winker is the best lefty hitter?

  90. RedsfanPa

    No lead is safe with this tinderbox bullpen. Unbelievable! What a joke. Has to be worst bullpen in the MLB right now. I would hate to be a starter on this team right now…SMH.

  91. Don

    The 28 players give Bell to many players.

    Just like last year, he manages the team into poor match-ups for innings 7.8.9 with lineup changes in innings 5 and 6. I was hoping that the DH would have it occur less often as no need for double switches but still occurring.

    • Jack

      Exactly, Bell thinks the game ends in the 6th….it most definitely does not, especially with a lousy bullpen

    • vared

      Totally agree. Add to that his head scratching at times use of the bullpen – this team is dead in the water with him at the helm.

    • Cursed

      He’s an absolute mess. I’m SURE I could do better and I stopped playing when the coaches stopped pitching. Good to have Jankowskis glove instead of the hottest bat in the lineup late in a close game.

  92. Jack

    Hope Iglesias can go 5 innings, it might take that to score a run

    • Don

      If he gets through the 9th a runner starts on 2nd and like all good managers, the next three batters will try to hit HR instead of getting the runner to 3rd.

      It will be interesting to see how Bell manages the 10th assuming Iglesias gets through the 9th

  93. Reddawg2012

    There might be a chance that I’ve over estimated how good this roster is.

    • Sliotar

      LOL.

      There are several really good players … and some AAAA guys that seem to get a lot of run.

  94. seadog

    Thru 8. Our Reds have 5 runs 8 hits and 3 errors. Starter went 6. Bullpen blew a lead again.

    Only part that I am surprised about?? Who made the errors. Lol lol lol. I kind of expected 3

  95. Melvin

    Farmer is at least an average SS. No need for Colon and Janko on this roster.

    • Don

      Do not remember him missing anything he gets to this year

    • Sliotar

      Nice job Sims.

      IMO, he should stay at the back of the bullpen, for situations like this.

      Former starter, could easily come for 11th, if needed.

  96. Mark Moore

    At least Iggy is on target tonight. We needed that.

  97. JB

    Iglesias is starting to look like the old Iglesias. Bow he just needs a couple of running partners.

  98. VaRedsFan

    Iggy looks good lately….sadly, the saves are already blown before we get to the 9th.

  99. Old-school

    Eugenio Suarez and joey Votto need to look in the mirror. They are supposed to be leaders. They are horrific.

    • Roger

      Won’t happen.They won’t set or be dropped in the order and they know it just like we do.

      • Doug Gray

        Suarez was already dropped in the order once this year…..

  100. Don

    farmer has had a great night

    up to senzel to hit is hard but not at someone

  101. RedsMonk65

    Farmer an All-Star tonight — on the field and at the plate. Come on Nick, drive him in!

  102. RiverCity Redleg

    Why would you not PH either Galvis or JVM for Colon there? That’s a no brainer.

    • Don

      Galvis should have hit there, JVM already in the game

      Bell saving Galvis for a double switch in extra innings

  103. seadog

    Ok—If we go to extra innings with the new rules.
    Runner starts in 2nd. So let’s see. Hmmm Bell puts Barnhart at second leaves Akyama on the bench (just in case) they need him later.

    • RiverCity Redleg

      Doesn’t the player who made the last out start at 2nd?

    • VaRedsFan

      Senzel made the last out…he will be on 2nd.

  104. Old-school

    Curt Casali is 0- for august. Tucker Barnhart is worse. Stephenson sits at Prasco . Farmer is showing he’s better than Galvis. Lorenzen is lost. Votto and Suarez aren’t performing. Bell needs to sit some veterans and play the best players.

  105. Don

    on to extra innings

    Senzel will be the one to start at 2nd in the bottom of the 10th.

    Wonder whom will be pitching for Reds

  106. Mark Moore

    Well now … we get our first look at the new extra innings rules in action.

    • Mark Moore

      How many innings until you have to try a 2-point conversion?

    • Don

      back to back K’s by Sims.

      Needs 1 more out

  107. Mark Moore

    OK … dodged that bullet with the aid of the Flex-O-Zone

    Let’s see what Senzel on 2nd can do for us.

  108. Jack

    Man, the umpires need to be replaced. Helped the Reds there

    • Mark Moore

      It seems to be getting worse to me.

    • Don

      he just swapped pitches 3 and 5 to still get to a 3-2 count. Pitch 4 was the makeup call for pitch 3 being missed

  109. Don

    Sims made it interesting but got out of the 10th

    Senzel at 2nd,

    Castellanos, Votto, Suarez to attempt to get a single to win the game, hopefully they do not swing for the fences

    • Mark Moore

      Cowboy just called him the “ghost runner”

      • Don

        whatever it takes to get Senzel across the plate before 3 outs.

        Why is Castellanos swinging for the fences.

  110. Tom Mitsoff

    Nice job by Sims. He should be in that seventh-inning setup spot instead of Jones.

    • Sliotar

      Further back … for situations like this.

      Former starter, can go in 11th, if needed.

  111. Mark Moore

    +10,000 to Cowboy for his mocking of Staumont with “man bun” and “scrunchie”

    • Matt WI

      Channeling his inner Marty for a minute there. Thrall didn’t quite know where to go with that comment.

  112. Mark Moore

    C’mon Joey … make us remember the best of you …

  113. Jack

    Lol, ball should have been caught but they’ll take it

    • Jack

      I notice he wasn’t choking up and and no problem turning that fastball around…so why choke up?

      • Jack

        ok, replay showed a slight chokeup but nothing like his normal one lately

  114. RedsMonk65

    Glad we won, but man … was all that really necessary?!

    • TR

      Good question. Earlier, Castellanos triples, no outs and doesn’t score.

  115. Mark Moore

    Now THAT was sweet to watch … it’s what we needed to see.

  116. Don

    Votto makes up for his fielding error earlier.

  117. Tom Mitsoff

    Always good to win that way! Or any way!

  118. Jefferson Green

    So much for the old guy not being able to get around on the big heater.

    • Jack

      I love to see it, hope he has another miracle turn around like 2017

  119. VaRedsFan

    A gift from the CFer. While the ball was in the air, did an announcer say Senzel wasn’t tagging up?

    • Doug Gray

      Thom said he should be, not that he wasn’t.

  120. Melvin

    Wow. That ball should have been caught but at the very least we would have 1st and 3rd with one out. It was a good win and made Votto feel good. He needed it.

  121. Chris

    Great win! Well, only because all wins are great. Sadly though, I don’t think this team can go very far with micro-managing David Bell. This guy is so much worse than last year, and quite frankly, I think he’s the worst manager the Reds have had since, well who knows how long? Short season, but he still wants to play everyone; DUMB. Last night’s moves could have easily doomed this team. replacing Winker in the 6th on first base for a pinch runner? Really? Pinch hitting for Davidson, who hasn’t been anything outstanding, but has still been better than most of the other hitters in his limited time, plus he had just hit a HR in the game. How do you not bring in Garrett with bases loaded to face the lefty batter? Bell is a complete MESS!

    • Doug Gray

      For me the only questionable move of the three you’re talking about here is Garrett. Can’t really explain that one.

      Winker? You replace him because he’s slow and you get a faster runner and better defender in a game you are leading. You are doing this to try and extend your lead (faster runner makes it more likely you get a run here) and also improve the chances of not giving up more runs.

      Davidson doesn’t exactly hit right-handed pitching well. Not that I’d EVER suggest the 2020 season splits tell us anything right now, but he’s 0-7 against righties this year so it’s not even like you are trying to “play the hot hand” in that kind of match up. In his big league career, over 750 plate appearances he’s a .208/.273/.421 hitter against right-handed pitching. So you bring in a lefty to pinch hit for him there to improve your chances of scoring a run.

      • Chris

        You tend to support Bell no matter what, so get your attempt at trying to support the Winker move, but that just doesn’t fly. Winker is the best hitter on the Reds over the last 7 days. He’s even hitting lefties right now. You don’t take your best hitter out of the game in the 6th inning, for defensive purposes, nor for pinch running purposes, when he’s on 1st base in a two run lead game. Sorry, but that’s just absolutely ridiculous, and you being a baseball guy, no better. Even the Davidson move was just managerial tinkering by a manager who feels like he has to tinker constantly. Sure, Davidson is a .208 hitter against righties, but VanMeter (who I really like) is a mess right now, and quite frankly, he doesn’t hit righties too well either (.233 lifetime average), even when he’s actually hitting. Bottom line, that move was just Bell micro managing a game, because that’s what he does.

      • Doug Gray

        I tend to provide reasoning as to why something was done. Simply because you disagree with the reasoning doesn’t mean it doesn’t fly, or that I’m going out of my way to “support David Bell”.

        As for Davidson – your issue now seems to be not that he was removed, but who he was removed for. Two different issues.

        Essentially, though, Bell is “danged if he does, danged if he doesn’t” in a lot of these situations. Winker is slow and he’s not a good defender. If someone comes through, with say a double to follow, and Winker gets to third but is stranded – well, you should have pinch run for him and that guy probably scores. Or maybe the next inning Winker doesn’t catch a ball that nearly every other outfielder on the team does catch and it costs the Reds a run – why is he in the game, they scream?

        Same thing for Davidson – everyone and their mom knows he doesn’t hit right-handed pitching all that well. Why wasn’t Shogo Akiyama in there for him they scream? At least he has a chance, they utter.

        Can’t win regardless of what he does – someone is going to whine and complain that the wrong move was made if the player doesn’t come through. And that’s what sucks about baseball – the best player alive fails to come through 58% of the time (if come through means not making an out). It’s very easy to point out that the manager should have or could have tried something different because the player failed in a game that is way more failure than success.

      • Chris

        Doug you make some valid points about the complaining. Yes, people are going to complain no matter what. Back to the point though. No, my complaint about Davidson being removed, was not based on who hit for him. I was replying to your reasoning of why it was a good/valid move. It wasn’t a good move, regardless. Jerking players in and out of the lineup in the middle of the game is not a good move, unless you are Sparky Anderson, and you are clearly telling management that John Vukovich is TERRIBLE and you don’t want to play him.

        As for the argument in pulling Winker, again, that’s just ridiculous. You don’t pull your best hitter in the 6th inning of a 2 run game, for a pinch runner that can’t hit either. As for Winker’s defense, he may be below average, but if you do the statistics on it, you would find the chances of him blowing a play in the outfield are extremely less than the chances of him benefiting the offense later in the game, versus the worst hitter on the team, who shouldn’t even be on the team.

      • Doug Gray

        I’m really tired of this discussion Chris, so I’ll just leave it with this:

        The difference in 1 single plate appearance between Winker and Jankowski and getting a hit/not getting a hit is infinitely small. Over 10 at-bats the difference between the two is less than 1 hit. Pretty much the same for the defense.

        Let’s complain about tonight’s game, huh? At least the argument will be new.

  122. Roger Garrett

    Doug,I agree with your logic but not the timing of the 6th inning.We had 3 innings to cover with our pen and more then likely in such a small park even Jankowski won’t score from first on one hit and does his speed and defense matter that much in left field vs what Winker brings..If this is the 7th inning with only 6 outs to get and not much chance the line up turns over then its a no brainer.The non Garrett move was troubling but overall Iggy and Sims got it done and Joey delivered.I am on record as saying that players win or lose game and not the manager.However with Price and once in a while with Bell I feel they over think things sometimes.We are struggling at the plate and any time you take guys down in a game that produced and replace them with guys that well haven’t shown anything with the bat its just has to be talked about.Good win.

    • Doug Gray

      There was no guarantee that spot would even get another trip to the plate at that point.

      • Roger Garrett

        Not so.As soon as Wink walked,barring a double play.which did happen.Davidson hits with 2 out in the 8th even if everybody after Wink makes an out.If no double play both Wink and Davidson hit in the 8th regardless.This was my reasoning about it being the 6th when this stuff happened rather then it being the 7th.Now you and I both had the ability to look back on it after the fact and say what we said and I agree he is danged if he does and danged if he doesn’t.I just wouldn’t not have done it.Bell can count I am sure he just chose right then to do what he did.

      • Roger Garrett

        Wrong on my previous post.Barring the double play Davidson’s spot hits in the 8th and if one other gets on in the 6th or 7th both Davidson and Winker hit in the 8th.

      • Melvin

        Taking out our hottest hitter for someone who is known for defense and NOT hitting, knowing that our pen hasn’t been exactly great was a big risk. This is another reason why Jankowski shouldn’t be on the roster. Aquino, if on the roster would have provided better defense, speed and still a potent bat. As far as what could have happened last night. If Bell felt he HAD to replace Winker Lorenzen would have been a better choice for the same reasons.

  123. docmike

    For those saying Votto’s ball should have been caught, you’re probably right. But he absolutely smoked that ball and deserved a hit. He had several balls that should have been hits robbed back during the first several games, so I’m glad the baseball gods finally smiled on #19 this year.

  124. docmike

    For the record, I also think it was absolutely stupid to take out Winker in the 6th inning. Way too early to take out your hottest hitter at that point in the game. Jankowski should be going in as a defensive replacement only, not if he’s probably going to hit at some point.

    I also didn’t get why Garrett wasn’t brought in in the 7th, that almost burned us. But I said the exact same thing on Sunday during the Brewers game.

  125. Old-school

    Bell pushed the right buttons..He had Farmer starting at SS,Winker hitting against the lefty and Davidson playing DH. Those 3 won the game.

    I would add to the prior comment I also like the DH, I like the 7 inning D- header and like the extra inning runner.

    Most folks can’t stay up for 12-13 innings. Move it along, at least in the regular season.

    • Chris

      Or you could say he pushed all the right buttons, and then continued pushing buttons for the heck of it, which almost cost us the game. Two of the buttons you are saying that were correct, he literally changed his mind and pulled them back out, which was utterly foolish.

      • Old-school

        @chris…don’t get me started on Winker. Winker and Senzel are my 2 favorite young guys and I’d play them every inning of every game assuming health. I might give Winker a first base mitt and DH JV some. I’d also play Castellanos in RF every day. Hard work can improve your defense.

      • Chris

        Totally agree with you @oldschool. I was amazed at how many people started bashing Winker a week ago or so. Winker should play everyday. Bell has done him a huge disservice by platooning him of and on over the last year.