An important three-game sweep of a divisional foe is within the Cincinnati Reds grasp today.

Having taken the first two games of the weekend series at Milwaukee, the Reds can get back to the .500 mark with a win today over the Brewers.

Every game is important in the 60-game season, but games against divisional opponents are more important than ever before because each game represents a two-game swing in the margin in the standings between the two teams.

And speaking of important games in a shortened season: After today’s game and a Monday off-day, Cincinnati faces eight straight games against the Kansas City Royals and Pittsburgh Pirates. Their combined record before today’s action is 9-22. The Chicago Cubs just completed a seven-game stretch against the same two teams and finished 6-1 – certainly a key component of their division-leading 10-3 record.

On Tuesday and Wednesday, the Cubs will face the Indians’ pitching staff. The Redlegs will have the opportunity in the coming days to make up some of the four-game difference between first and second in the NL Central.

All of that being said, today’s match up has all of the makings of a “good old good one.”

Starting Pitchers

Name IP ERA xFIP K% BB%
Sonny Gray 18.2 0.96 1.64 41.2% 7.3%
Brandon Woodruff 17.1 2.08 2.41 31.8% 4.5%

Between them, Gray and Woodruff are striking out about 35 percent of the batters they face, and walking only about six percent. It figures to be a low-scoring pitchers’ duel, and the Reds will have to take advantage of what will probably be limited scoring opportunities.

Bullpen

Joel Kuhnel is back with the team after being recalled from Prasco Park late Saturday, with Jose De Leon being optioned. Kuhnel will at some point be given the opportunity to join the list of relievers that David Bell can trust in the late innings of close games. To date, Raisel Iglesias, Amir Garrett and Lucas Sims are the only pitchers who have done so.

With the starting pitching this team has, a dependable end-of-game lockdown bullpen corps would make this team a true threat to win it all. Time is running short for two or three others to join the end-of-game group that Bell will rely upon.

Sims pitched the final two innings in Friday’s win and may not be available today, but everyone else in the bullpen should be ready if needed today.

Starting Lineups

Reds Brewers
LF Shogo Akiyama SS Eric Sogard
RF Nick Castellanos 2B Keston Hiura
1B Joey Votto LF Christian Yelich
3B Eugenio Suarez DH Logan Morrison
DH Jesse Winker CF Avisail Garcia
2B Christian Colon 1B Justin Smoak
C Tucker Barnhart 3B Brock Holt
SS Freddy Galvis RF Mark Mathias
CF Travis Jankowski C Manny Pina

Colon gets another start and bats sixth in the order, much to the chagrin of at least a faction of Redleg Nation. Bell seems to be hoping that either Colon or Kyle Farmer will assert himself offensively in the continued absence of Mike Moustakas, which neither has yet done.

Career-wise vs. Woodruff, Votto is 6-for-9 with two homers and five RBI. Winker is 4-for-7 with a double. On the other hand, members of the current Brewers roster have a lifetime combined batting average of .210 vs. Gray. Both Morrison and Smoak have identical 7-for-33 career batting against Gray. The next highest number of at-bats vs. Gray among current Brewers are Holt and Garcia, both 1-for-12.

Additional insights into the statistical history of the players in today’s game is available all season long at BaseballSavant.com.

News and Notes

When will the St. Louis Cardinals play again?

Presuming the upcoming Monday through Wednesday series against Pittsburgh is indeed cancelled, the Cardinals will have had 13 consecutive games postponed. It also means that St. Louis must play 55 games over the next 50 days, with a very real likelihood of no days off until the end of the season. That doesn’t even include any potential rainouts or further COVID-related postponements.


There is still mutual admiration between Deion Sanders and the Reds, who the Pro Football Hall of Famer at one time said he truly enjoyed playing for …

169 Responses

  1. Sliotar

    What faction of RLN isn’t chagrined at Colon getting another start?

    What I first posted here several days ago still holds true …. 1 HR in his MLB career.
    Maybe today is the day for number 2, who knows.

    He has contributed .6 of a win in MLB career… not 1 WAR … 60% of 1 WAR.
    Definition of AAAA player.

    • Doug Gray

      I’m not exactly chagrined. What’s the other option here? Kyle Farmer?

      I’m not going to get worked up over choosing one of those guys over the other.

      • Mark Moore

        Yep … it’s basically a pick ’em situation with Moose out.

      • Sliotar

        Nothing to get worked up about, but there is a process/outcome effect.

        Running out a AAAA guy at number 6, with some of the other stiffs in the lineup, does catch up with a team eventually.

        The solution is to find better cover for the position in Moustakas’s absence, sooner the better. Moustakas only played in 143 games last season and is old, by MLB standards.

      • Doug Gray

        Hitting him 6th is a bigger deal than having him in the lineup.

        But, lineup order doesn’t matter THAT much to really get worked up about it when the guy only plays twice a week and that only happens when someone is injured.

      • seadog

        I agree with that. At the same time however, why not bring up India or Garcia. Give them a few games. Seems pointless to run Colon out there.

      • Indy Red Man

        You brought up JVM 14 at-bats being = 3 games. When did Colon mash 13 hrs in a month at AAA? Did Colon hit the longest Reds hr last year? Its ridiculous, but not the end of the world. It just irritates me because Colon reminds me of all the guys they’ve had in the last 10 years that could ONLY play for the Reds? No other mlb team would have them so their next step was their couch or Korea. Scott Schumaker, Edmonds, pick any other washed up/useless former Cardinal.

      • Doug Gray

        Right this second, Josh VanMeter isn’t an option for David Bell to use. Among the options that he can pick from, it’s Colon or Farmer. I’m not going to worry much about which choice of those two is made.

        But yeah, I’d rather let VanMeter get all of those at-bats.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        @Seadog: This is not rebuilding time anymore. This is go-for-it time. In my opinion, you don’t bring a rookie up and drop him into the lineup of a contending team unless a) every other option is injured or otherwise unavailable or b) it’s clear he is an absolutely-can’t-miss prospect. Neither India nor Garcia fits that description — at least, not yet.

      • Indy Red Man

        Why isn’t JVM available? Thats what the player pool is for. Right? Jankowski>Aquino too? Cmon? TJ has a lifetime .630 ops. This lefty/righty platoon is far from everything. Not to mention you’re robbing younger players of experience.

        Its like Dusty’s love of “veteran-ness” for absolutely no reason?

      • Doug Gray

        He’s not available to David Bell because he’s at Prasco Park. So with the very specific lineup for today, I can’t get my panties in a bunch because a player who is not on the team right now isn’t in the lineup, nor am I going to get them in a bunch because one of two options that aren’t exactly great were used.

      • Indy Red Man

        Whats wrong with Mark Payton? 30 hrs in 395 at-bats and .400 obp. Granted it was the PCL, but still. I hated pitching to short guys because it felt like everything that was a strike was in their wheelhouse.

        I get that Bell has what he has today, but why go out and get all these guys in the offseason to cobble together some AAAA lineup. We’ll be lucky to get 2 runs on 6 hits today. Maybe I’m wrong?

      • Doug Gray

        Well, I’ll assume you are complaining that Payton is not on the roster instead of Jankowski. I’ll hear that argument – I can get behind it. But I also get why Jankowski’s there over Payton. Neither would play much in a normal circumstance. As a bench piece, Jankowski’s got better wheels and way better defense in center. If you’re looking at the 5th or 6th outfielder on your roster, maybe that’s where you go with things instead of the bat you don’t really plan to use very much in any scenario.

        And with regards to Payton, he may or may not even be able to play just yet. The guy was just re-acquired. He may have been given a day or two to get his affairs in order in California and travel to where they asked him to.

      • seadog

        @ Tom Mitsoff. I agree this is go time. Exactly why you don’t play Colon. As far as rookies. One is, one is not. My son just brought up a good point to me, he agreed with you. You can’t bring up India—His point, you can bring up Blandino. Ha, he is right. As far as Garcia—I am speaking of Robel. On 40 Bring him up, not a rookie, surely he can produce more than Colon in “Go Time”. As far as today’s lineup. Doug is right. Bells hands are tied with players they have with them in Milwaukee. When they get home. Hopefully, we get another 2nd basemen up

      • Melvin

        I understand about being “go for it time”. Believe me…. and I understand about not relying on rookies in a time like that. However there are times when a talented rookie such as Garcia can add more of a spark to a veteran team than a guy like Colon. He also would at least give a better defensive replacement option late in the game. Being on this team in this situation may help progress the development of a guy like Garcia. I really don’t think in this case we would be giving up much if anything with Garcia instead of Colon and the potential to help is much greater IMO.

    • GreatRedLegsFan

      In the absence of Moustakas, at least Farmer can provide some power with outstanding defense.

  2. Mark Moore

    A lot riding on Sonny today. Let’s hope we can hit a few in a row and put up some crooked numbers.

    In other news, Derek D is no longer with the Stupid Cubs. Frankly, it seems to me that he’s going to fade into oblivion this year. Hope he managed whatever money he did make well. Best of luck to him. I hear the Cardinals need almost an entire new team right now …

    • Aaron B.

      In what crazy world do we live in where a guy that was leading the major leagues in home runs last May at a relatively young age, is now out of a job despite being healthy? Honestly DD would be better cover for Moose than what we have in-house. Maybe the Reds should give him a call?

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Or how about Scooter Gennett? 😉 It’s interesting that he apparently hasn’t caught on with anyone in this year of all-able-hands-on-deck.

  3. Sliotar

    Every player in today’s Reds starting lineup is age 29 or older, except for Castellanos (28) and Winker (27).

    The Pirates stink, the Brewers look a mess … and it will be a heck of a managing job by Shildt to keep the Cardinals bullpen’s arms from falling off, trying to complete 60 games.

    The window is right now. If hockey is any guide, a short, extra round of playoffs makes things even more wide open.

    Hopefully, the Reds brass is going to get aggressive filling holes at the trade deadline.

    • Mark Moore

      It kind of reminds me of the old golf league. You played for “position night” that set up the final rounds and gave almost everybody a chance. Of course, that was also a handicapped league, so a good night for me really paid off. But it does feel like we’re playing for a position in some type of “big dance”. We’ll probably know what that looks like before the end of August in any case. By that point, our SP’s should give us the chance and you have to think some of our core will come around and hit. At least I hope that’s how it plays out …

  4. Keith

    At what point do the Reds move on from Freddy Galvis and bring up Garcia? Freddy Galvis has an OPS of .703, an improvement on his career OPS of .676. He’s generated all of 0.2 WAR since joining the Reds. Is Jose Garcia worse than this at the plate? Galvis doesn’t appear to be anything special in the field.

    • Aaron B.

      Enough with your fractional WAR rating. he plays shortstop. You think you can just pluck any shortstop out of the minor leagues and expect superior performance? Not every position was projected to be an all star, we saved money at shortstop so we could go shopping for Castellanos. You just assume Garcia will come up and produce when in fact it may very well stunt his development. I am going to assume management knows what they are doing in this situation and Galvis is about the same statistically as about half the shortstops in the league. Lindor isn’t exactly lighting it up right now.

  5. Old-school

    8-8 firmly in 2nd place and pushing the BRewers to 3 under .500 is a lot better than 7-9 and trailing the Brewers. Big game with a day off to get Senzel and Moose ready for 8 consecutive against the royals and Pirates. August 20 is the gauntlet ….with 4 game series against Cards/Brewers/Cubs/Cards. Would like to be few games over .500 going into that season determining stretch of games.

    Cubs are going to be on the teams from the NL Central, The pirates most assuredly will not. It’s a 3 team race with the Brewers and Cards. Do your damage now. Go Reds.

  6. BO

    Moose on 10 day IL. Another week of Farmer/Colon.

  7. Doc

    In some ways this season takes on the character of a golf tournament. You see the scoreboard based on who is how many under par, but you really have to go a little deeper to see who has played how many holes, and who has scoring opportunities remaining ahead.

    Similarly, one must go deeper in analyzing current Central records. Who has played whom, tougher or weaker schedule through first two weeks, and what lies ahead. Sounds as though the Reds should have a schedule advantage over the next week or two, when compared to the Cubs. The key will be beating up on teams they’re supposed to beat up.

    What is MLB going to do about the Cards. Already they have to play 55 games in 50 days, and the reported probable postponement of their next series will make it 58 games in 47 days. Shildt might not have to worry as much about his bullpen as he does about his rotation. Lots of 7 inning twin bills in his future.

    • VaRedsFan

      no such thing as easy schedule. Was it easy when they played the Tigers 6 games already?

  8. seadog

    You almost have to “FEEL” for David Bell and Sonny Gray today. Facing one of the better pitchers in the NL. Bell’s bench has a catcher/1st baseman/Outfielder/Infielder—That is while the starting CF is batting 0 and the 2nb is batting .143. OUCH. On top of that—entire bench is right handed.

    Maybe today Sonny goes 7. They hang 5-6 on the Brew Crew. And Antone gets the save. ?

      • seadog

        He may not be on the building. But, I believe he is in the building and able to pitch. The save was tongue in cheek

      • Doug Gray

        John Fay is reporting that Antone was not expected to be in Milwaukee today. Has that changed?

      • seadog

        As always-You are correct. According to “Fay”. Antone is neither on or in the building. My bad. I thought he was on the trip in the pool.

  9. RedsMonk65

    Nice hit by Da Wink. Score early and score often.

  10. Mark Moore

    Like this so far. Keep making Woodruff throw lots of pitches.

  11. Sliotar

    Bunching the best 5 hitters at the top comes through.

    30 pitch inning for Woodruff.

    Well done all around.

  12. Jefferson Green

    Inning should be over. Rise to it, Sonny!

  13. seadog

    Jankowski off of zero. Good for him. Making Woodruff throw more pitches.

  14. seadog

    50 pitches for Woodruff thru 2 is a ton. He may only last 4

  15. Jack

    Man, Votto needs to think about if this is his last year. One of my all time favorite players but is getting dramatically worse each year.

    • Hanawi

      I respect that Joey Votto knows more about hitting a baseball than I ever will, but for the life of me I cannot understand going back to the crouch and choke up after it failed each of the past two years and he had so much more success going back to his old style at the end of last year.

      Maybe he’s just not right physically and he can’t swing as hard as he used to, so this is how he compensates? I cannot think of any other reason someone so good at baseball would go back to something that didn’t work.

      • VaRedsFan

        When he changed last year, it actually worked. I was super disappointed when I saw him back in the crouch and choked up again this season.

  16. Old-school

    I don’t the strikeouts but Woodruff is an all star caliber pitcher.

    I do like the plate discipline. 13 batters in and woodruff is averaging 5 pitches per hitter thru 3 innings. That can’t last.

    • seadog

      Agreed. But, Woodruff is settling in. 50 pitches 20 pitches. 17 pitches. Sonny is awesome. After they are gone—Game will be decided by bench/bullpen. Of both teams. Great game to watch.

  17. Mark Moore

    Another clean inning would be very nice.

    • Mark Moore

      I guess I shouldn’t have typed that … sorry, gang.

  18. VaRedsFan

    Did Votto actually duck on that liner hit by Yelich?

  19. Mark Moore

    This young ump is the very reason we need to get to the robo zone. 2 pitches in a row in the exact same spot called differently. SMH!!

    • Mark Moore

      Almost looks like he’s trying to make up for his mistakes with calls like that 3rd strike.

  20. VaRedsFan

    Pull it in the air Winker….can’t stress it enough.

  21. Roger Garrett

    Its ok Mark we all knew Sonny would have to shut them out to win this game.We went with the B team on Friday night and got lucky with the 6 run second,but you can’t expect the C team to do the same against their best pitcher.To me it appeared Bell waved the white flag before the first pitch cause Farmer and Davidson in the line up somewhere just feels much better then Colon/Jankowski.I know nothing of course and we do have a long way to go in this one so we shall see.

    • Mark Moore

      Yellich is good … no question about it. He’ll come around and we’re seeing that. We’re back on top again, so that’s a positive turn.

  22. Old-school

    Any distance on that HR Winker? Looked 410+

      • Mark Moore

        I was kidding, Doug 🙂

        It was a bomb shot, that’s for sure.

  23. Mark Moore

    OK, maybe Wink is coming around. Woodruff sniffing 80 pitches through 4. I’m thinking Tucker can push him over that number.

  24. Mark Moore

    OK – that zone flexes between pitches. C’mon, youngster … you have to do better. The Crew Chief really ought to have a word or 3 with him between innings.

    • Jefferson Green

      This is the least consistent strike zone I have seen in a while.

    • Old-school

      He’s been equally bad too. Just a bad ump.

      • Mark Moore

        At least the back-end of our lineup pushed him over 90 pitches through 4. I’m totally good with that when combined with the Flex-O-Zone frustrating Woodruff.

      • seadog

        We all have our opinions-which is great. Mine, no Robo Ump period. Even if the technology is there. Just takes the fun out of the game in my opinion. When you wake up as a big league pitcher you know what Ump is calling the game. It may be Angel Hernandez. Adds a level of interest in my humble opinion.

    • seadog

      Great example of why I don’t like/want Robo Umps. Why I have issues with “some” saber metrics. May be bad/lousy calls. But, the human nature has to be involved in this game. Otherwise, we may as well just give it to a computer (as we did) let it determine the outcome thru an algorithm. Not fun. In my opinion. Part of the game

      • Doug Gray

        The players have to play. The umpires don’t. So the “just give it the computer” stuff is absolutely silly to suggest.

        That said, people far smarter than I have been telling me for a long time now that the technology simply isn’t good enough for a robot zone right now. I’ll believe them.

      • Doug Gray

        Also, the “human nature” of the game is the players and managers. That’s who should alter and decide the game on a given day.

      • Mark Moore

        I’ll respectfully disagree. Consistency by an individual umpire is good. Consistency across the board is better for all. What we’re seeing today is the pinnacle of variability from pitch to pitch. That disturbs any attempt at rhythm whatsoever.

        All I’m advocating for is the Robo-Zone for the sake of consistency.

      • VaRedsFan

        If you go just by the “box”, there will be a whole lot more called strikes with a robo ump… which might be good…guys will have to swing the bat more.

  25. VaRedsFan

    Suter is warming….Surprised it’s not Hader.

  26. Mark Moore

    What in the ….

    C’mon, Sonny. Help yourself out.

  27. VaRedsFan

    Disaster averted…hopefully Sonny can go 1 more.
    4 innings of bullpen…yikes

    • Mark Moore

      Yeah … at least his pitch count wasn’t wretched leading up to that mess and we’re still ahead by one. Plus we have tomorrow off, so we could get creative … sorry, I forgot David Bell is making the decisions.

      Let’s jump on Suter.

  28. Hanawi

    Based on the how things have played out so far, it seems like the days of thinking Lorenzen is going to be a two-way player are over.

    • Mark Moore

      Had the same thought. I don’t think things are really set up for that to happen now for almost everyone … for nobody if you consider the Big O won’t pitch for the Halos for the foreseeable future.

  29. Mark Moore

    Need a little flair from Joey now … a gork, a ground ball with eyes, a floater …

  30. Hanawi

    These two teams have a combined 3 guys hitting over .250 in their lineups right now. Amazing how much farther ahead the pitching seems to be from the hitting this year.

    You’d think the pitchers would need more of spring training to get warmed up and going, but it seems like the hitters’ timing is much more affected.

    • Mark Moore

      I’m thinking way more of them stayed tuned up during the pause. Hitters didn’t have MLB caliber pitchers to face, so they are just starting to come around.

  31. Mark Moore

    Mikey warming up? Please no …

    6K’s for Gray. One more and he ties Cueto for most through first 4 starts.

  32. Mark Moore

    OK … gonna reverse that call. Now Tucker has ONE JOB to do.

    • Mark Moore

      Nope, nope, nopity, nope …

      Rolled over on it. Wasted opportunity.

    • Old-school

      Votto and Barnhart have had some poorly timed 4-6-3 this year.

  33. Roger Garrett

    A third run is huge right here.

  34. Old-school

    Gray with a gutty outing.
    Cowboy though said outta gas. Throwing 88-90. That’s not good.

    Need to watch him the next 4 days. With mahle and Antone, no need to send a tired arm out there.

    • Mark Moore

      Have to agree with Cowboy’s assessment … he’s battling and his day is in jeopardy.

      Surprised to see him out there, but he’s got to be on a very short leash here in the 6th.

  35. seadog

    Another Outstanding 5 by Sonny. He sits at 90 pitches. Hopefully he can give us 1 more. Just dominant. Velocity good as well Anyone who would say he is not the best pitcher the Reds have picked up/traded for or signed in the last 10 years is insane

    Strike-out pitchers are going to throw a ton of pitches. Sonny does as does Bauer etc. They just don’t pitch to contact. Get used to it. Lol. Just dominant today.

  36. Old-school

    Why is Gray out there? He’s throwing 90 mph fastballs? He’s gonna get hurt?

  37. Mark Moore

    Bad start to the 6th, especially when we didn’t add on a run.

  38. Matt WI

    If Castellanos wants to be a 9 inning defender, he sure could, you know, run to those balls in the corner. At least on tv it looks like he’s strolling.

  39. Mark Moore

    Caught a HUGE break on that base running mistake. Need a GIDP to end it.

  40. earmbrister

    Just arrived. Gray and the Reds could use a K here

    • Mark Moore

      Debbie’s not liking things at the moment …

  41. VaRedsFan

    Is “I hate inheriting runners” Lorenzen coming in?
    He’d actually do good to allow only 1 here….but 1 is too many.

    • VaRedsFan

      Both scored…no surprise….that’s what he does.

  42. Old-school

    This is on bell. Gray pitched his tail off. Had Mahle warming up in the 5 th and took him down and let Gray start the 6 th when he clearly was tiring and velocity off.

    Then brings in Lorenzen who is lost. With heavy lefty lineup. No Garrett?

    Total mismanagement

    • Matt WI

      Inclined to agree. Bell not watching the same game.

  43. Mark Moore

    And the dumpster is smoldering … one more hit and it’s going to be fully on fire.

  44. Hanawi

    Bell again with zero feel for how to manage a pitching staff. Just don’t think he’s going to be the right guy for the Reds in the long-term.

    • Mark Moore

      Or the rest of this year … I’m scoping out seats on the “replace Bell” bandwagon. Hand the keys to Freddie B for the rest of the season.

      • TR

        I’ve always liked Freddie Benavides as a possible manager. He’ll get his chance somewhere if not with the Reds.

    • seadog

      Why is nobody talking about Derek Johnson. He gets credit for the starters. Should he not take the heat for no bullpen?

      • Hanawi

        I assume Bell is the one making the decisions on who to put in the game. Not sure who made the decision not to upgrade the bullpen in the offseason, but they should also come under fire.

  45. Mark Moore

    Complete misuse of Gray, the pen, and a few other things I can’t quite think of at the moment.

    One more run in and I’ll have to Clete for the day.

  46. Old-school

    Tyler mahle should have in the top of 6 or Amir Garrett. It’s winning time. Lorenzen has become Robert Stephenson. Mentally not there.

  47. Hanawi

    Why leave Lorenzen in to face a 4th batter? He obviously has nothing.

    • Doug Gray

      It’s possible that Reed wasn’t ready to come in yet.

  48. Mark Moore

    Cowboy is calling Mikey out … says his heads not where it needs to be and he’s just “throwing” it.

    • Roger Garrett

      You think?Lorenzen should pitch only in blow out games until he shows he can get somebody out.Its terrible we have to set and watch our hitters be sent out there game after game to works things out and not work things out but now we have to watch our pitching staff also.This is not a hope and pray season.This is a 60 game season and we can’t keep losing games hoping a hitter or pitcher gets it together.Its insane to do that for goodness sake.

    • Melvin

      Cowboy should be calling out David Bell.

  49. Mark Moore

    Well, it was fun until today, friends. See y’all on Tuesday.

  50. Jack

    Lorenzen has to go somewhere he can work this out. Should not be anywhere near a game that they have a chance to win

  51. Jon

    Just a thought, but it would be nice if the MLB app was synced to the television broadcast. Getting notifications that the Brewers are scoring a second before it shows on television.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I’ve turned off the scoring updates for that very reason.

  52. JB

    Lorenzen to Reed. Bell does not care to win this game.

  53. earmbrister

    I’ve been without power or cable since Tuesday’s storm. I come back and the Reds immediately implode.

    I am the Michael Lorenzen of fandom

    • earmbrister

      Can I call the utility company and ask them to disconnect my electricity and cable? This is brutal.

      • VaRedsFan

        post your address…we will take care of that problem.
        Radio and batteries for you until further notice

      • earmbrister

        Yeah, I should be cut off.

        I’ll go back to my childhood when my only exposure was the box score in the evening (day after) paper.

        Safer for the rest of you

  54. Jon

    Seriously though, does Lorenzen have options left to be sent down?

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I believe he does. They can’t continue to use him in close games until he gets something figured out. Same for Reed. We’re seeing the real Achilles heel of this team right now, and if they want to contend, they must fix it.

      • Jon

        Hunter Greene to the bullpen is becoming more and more of a possibility with each game…

      • Jack

        The hitting is just as bad, as bad as the bullpen is you’d think they would still win a couple slugfests

  55. VaRedsFan

    What is it about Lorenzen’s 2.63 WHIP that made Bell think he was the guy to use there?

    • Matt WI

      Well, when you put it that way 😉

  56. JB

    Maybe when they get home there will be mass changes. Bullpen stinks , bench stinks….. they might be playing KC and Pittsburgh but it wouldnt surprise me they struggle with both teams.

  57. Gene Kehoe

    I agree with others. Totally on Bell. Per Cowboy, Sonny had nothing left and should never have gone out for the 6th. And Lorenzen was the WORST option to bring in! Should have been Mahle for at least a couple, then Amir and Raisel. Is that so hard to figure out? I guess it is!

  58. TR

    After five innings it was obvious Gray was struggling. The Reds are leaving too many runners in scoring position. Why not an occasional bunt to shake things up?

  59. Jack

    This umpiire is unbelievable, has to be in pitcher’s heads wondering how they are supposed to pitch

  60. Hanawi

    So Lorenzen faced 3 lefties out of 4 guys and then Reed faced 3 straight righties. Insane bullpen management. Just absolutely insane.

  61. ClevelandRedsFan

    Is there any rational argument for bringing Lorenzen in? Literally any reason at all?

    I would take Matt Davidson over Lorenzen right now.

    Bell just gifted the Brewers game 3. Why not Mahle? Garrett? Antone? Nate Jones? Joel?

    Literally anyone else in the bullpen.

    • Doug Gray

      Antone is not there, so that would be tough to make happen.

      • JohnnyLaw

        Do you defend these moves so you can keep your press credentials or is there some statcast reason to like these moves?

      • Doug Gray

        Defend what moves? I said that Tejay Antone isn’t at the ballpark so it would be impossible to use him in this game.

      • Doug Gray

        Oh, and just to be clear, we do not have a press credential.

  62. seadog

    Derek Johnson got all the love out of this past “off” season. He now has to take the heat. He can’t produce a bullpen. I don’t want to hate on Lorenzen. The guy has talent. Obviously, there is an issue somewhere. If Derek Johnson can’t figure it out—Shame on him. Send Lorenzen down etc. I thought there was no way you could bring him in to games with an 11+ ERA and he would find a way to increase it. Well he did, they did. Now stands at 13+. Just blows my mind. Derek needs to earn his reputation with this bullpen. Fix it Derek.

    • Hanawi

      Maybe they just don’t have the guys in the bullpen and needed to go out and get better pitchers. Also, it’s mostly been a Lorenzen and Cody Reed problem (with a bit of DeLeon in his one spot). So maybe don’t use them in high-leverage spots.

  63. Jack

    The DH hurts the Reds, just one more automatic out while other teams send up actual major leaguers. Can Winker play first or put Nick there and Winker in Outfield. Bring up Tyler to catch, Hunter to bullpen, Garcia to play short

  64. Roger Garrett

    I understand its a nutty season with the virus and all the emotions that are involved with it.Who knows even if the short season is completed.I also understand some guys may not be ready physically or mentally and are slow out of the gate sometimes.What I don’t understand is continuing to use them when they are just stinking up the place?Aren’t these guys accountable to anybody?I am so tired of watching Suarez swing hard in case he hits it and so tired of watching Lorenzen just throw it somewhere in the vicinity of home plate and hope.There are others but if these guys are part of the core and part of whats good about this team well we are in trouble.

    • Hanawi

      Bell did the same thing to David Hernandez last year that he’s doing with Lorenzen this year. Just kept throwing him out there all evidence to the contrary. Seems like he has difficulty adjusting to the fact that each year is different and what worked for a guy last year may not work this year.

      • VaRedsFan

        Yes he did. Lorenzen has been bad since May 29th of last year.

    • Doug Gray

      It’s the second week of the season.

      A week ago there were dozens of comments here about sending Jesse Winker to Prasco Park.

      Yeah, two weeks of THIS season is more than two weeks of any other season. But in two weeks anyone can have a slump.

      I get the frustration, though.

  65. Indy Red Man

    “Dusty, Corey Patterson is hitting .144 and we’re in June. Have you thought about trying to leadoff with someone else”

    “No, Corey is an important part of this team and we’ve just got to get him going”

    “Coach Bell, every time Lorenzen comes in, runners are circling the bases like 3rd grade kickball. Have you thought about anyone else in close games?”

    “No, Bam-Bam is an important part of this team and we’ve just got to get him going”

    The more things change, the more they remain the same((

    • Melvin

      hahaha! There are a lot of similarities in David Bell and Dusty…..i’m afraid. I think DB needs to go back to front office jobs.

    • seadog

      Very true, yet Sad. Dusty did make the play-offs. This team should as well. No matter the ineptitude. Just crazy.

  66. Jeff Morris

    Why Lorenzen again? Why not Garrett, Sims, or Mahle? Bell doing what Dusty B did when he managed the Reds, have a obsession to bringing in a pitcher that always was NOT reliable time and time again. Need to put Lorenzen on the 60 day DL and shut him down for this year, or put him in either when the Reds are winning by alot or losing by alot. Bell deserves to be blasted and criticized by the Reds press, when he gives the postgame news conference.

    • Indy Red Man

      Mahle!! Could’ve actually given them a shot at the sweep. Good one!

      Of course I predicted 2 runs on 6 hits with this terrible lineup Bell put together. Won’t win you alot of games…..and thats with Woodruff being bad.

  67. ClevelandRedsFan

    I don’t think Lorenzen should be sent down. But why bring him in for a crucial situation? He doesn’t need to pitch in high leverage situations. Right now, he simply doesn’t have it.

    Garrett does. Mahle does. I get not bringing in Mahle with guys in as he’s not used to that. But why not Garrett and let him finish the 6th and pitch the 7th.

    Lorenzen needs to earn high leverage situations back.

    • VaRedsFan

      I though AG only pitched 1 inning last night, so he could be available today

  68. Jack

    Well at least we got Yelich back on track

  69. Sliotar

    Good things the innings are running out.

    Yelich might hit for the cycle, like he did in Cincinnati a couple of years ago.

  70. Tom Mitsoff

    I’m for trying Mahle and-or Antone in the close-game scenarios moving forward ahead of Lorenzen and Reed.

    • Melvin

      Some times I wish we had more control like we did in the Strato season but even then we didn’t have control of the pitching decisions (except for starters) did we? 🙂

    • seadog

      Thank You. I am as well. I am also for trying Blandino or Garcia at 2b. Things have to change. Hopefully they will. Good news is. This team is still in it. They have a chance.

  71. Roger Garrett

    I thought maybe the 13-0 beat down by the Tribe the other night may have helped us.Obviously it didn’t so we just move on.One note Joey is below .200 and Eugenio well he isn’t even close to him so I guess we just hope things get better after what game 16 in this 60 games season.Glad we could help Yelich get back on track.Lets do it again on Tuesday.GO REDS.

  72. Melvin

    We probably will still make the playoffs. This is a WEIRD season. Even so it’s hard to feel good about what’s going on. I guess we should just be thankful we have real Reds baseball to watch as frustrating as it is at times. Could always be worse.