Final R H E
Cincinnati Reds (5-8)
0 3 0
Cleveland Indians (8-6)
13 11 0
W: Carrasco (2-1) L: Castillo (0-2)
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Matt Davidson got to pitch in the game. That’s all you need to know. If you want to know more, there’s about 1000 words below describing the game, but TLDR: It didn’t go well for the Cincinnati Reds (5-8), who lost by nearly two touchdowns to Cleveland (8-6).

The Offense

The Reds went quietly in the 1st inning. But Jesse Winker led off the second inning with a double to the gap in right-center. Unfortunately a lineout, flyout, and a strikeout followed up and the Reds came up empty. The team extended their scoreless streak to 17 innings by going quietly in the 3rd inning. It went the same way in the 4th. In the 5th inning Carlos Carrasco worked around a 1-out walk to push the Reds scoreless streak to 19.

In the 6th inning the Reds offense started what could have been a 2-out rally. Joey Votto and Eugenio Suarez both walked, with Votto making his way to third base on two separate wild pitches. Runners were on the corners for Jesse Winker, but the umpire was bent on making it next to impossible for the Cincinnati offense to come through as he rung up Winker on a pitch nowhere near the strikezone to end the inning.

The third pitch and the sixth pitch were both called strikes. Neither of them were actual strikes and Winker wasn’t happy with either of them. After the strikeout the Reds dugout lost it, and so did David Bell, who was ejected for arguing.

Cincinnati’s scoreless inning streak continued when Cam Hill took over for Carlos Carrasco to begin the 7th as he needed 10 pitches to rack up two strikeouts and a ground out.

After Tucker Barnhart grounded out to lead off the 8th inning, Shogo Akiyama singled, picking up the Reds first hit of the game since Jesse Winker led off the 2nd with a double. Unfortunately, trailing 13-0, Akiyama couldn’t find a way to score a touchdown to make it a close game. He would move to second on a wild pitch but be stranded on the bases as the scoreless streak moved to 22 years innings.

Eugenio Suarez struck out to begin the 9th, but Jesse Winker line a single for his second hit of the night. The game ended a few pitches later on a double play to mercifully end the game, 13-0.

The Pitching

The first inning saw Jose Ramirez hit a long home run to right-center field to put Cleveland up 1-0 against Luis Castillo. The Reds righty worked around a 2-out walk of Carlos Santana to keep the game there, but it was a 29-pitch inning as he labored to get through the 1st. Castillo struck out the side in the 2nd inning, and he picked up another strikeout in the the 3rd as he went 1-2-3 again. A 1-out walk in the 4th was followed up by a single against the shift to put two runners on for Domingo Santana, but Castillo struck him out on four pitches before doing the same to Oscar Mercado to end the inning.

Cleveland got back on the board in the bottom of the 5th. After the first two hitters went down quickly, Cesar Hernandrez walked after falling behind 0-2, and then Jose Ramirez tripled to make it 2-0. He scored on a single by Francisco Lindor and the Indians extended their lead to 3-0. Castillo then walked Carlos Santana, drawing a visit to the mound from Derek Johnson. He got out of it on a ground out to Joey Votto to end the inning, but the damage was done by that point and his pitch count was at 105 with the bullpen getting loose.

José De León took over for Cincinnati in the 6th and he made very quick work of Cleveland, striking out the first two hitters he saw, then getting a ground out to end the inning with just 11 pitches thrown. The bottom of the 7th wasn’t quite as easy for De León, who gave up back-to-back singles the begin the frame. Acting manager Freddie Benavides had the infield play in to try and prevent a run and Joey Votto got a grounder to him and he came to the plate to get Delino Deshields Jr. for the first out of the inning. But they would then hand Francisco Lindor an intentional walk to load the bases for Carlos Santana. The move didn’t pay off as Santana walked after falling behind 0-2 and Cleveland extended their lead to 4-0.

And then just like the Reds offense can’t buy any amount of luck, the Reds pitching staff can’t catch a break as a weakly hit blooper found grass to bring in two more runs to extend the Indians lead to 6-0. Another single followed to reload the bases, but a strikeout of Oscar Mercado made for the second out of the inning. The struggles on the inning continued, though, as De León walked in another run to put the Browns Indians up by a touchdown. Another walk, on his 39th pitch of the inning, made it 8-0.

That led to a call to the bullpen to bring in Cody Reed. Cesar Hernandez saw four pitches and the last one was lined down the right field line for a 3-run triple to make it 11-0. Jose Ramirez followed with a 2-run homer to make it 13-0. And then a walk followed. 10 runs with five walks before the inning was over.

The Reds were losing so bad that they were allowed, by rule, to pitch a position player. That meant that Matt Davidson got to take the mound. He had previously been unscored upon in three big league games and one minor league appearance. That streak continued as he locked up Mike Freeman on a 69 MPH curveball for a strikeout before getting Domingo Santana to line out to left field. Oscar Mercado singled on a grounder up the middle, but Beau Taylor popped up on the infield to end the inning.

Notes worth noting

David Bell was ejected for the first time of the season for arguing balls and strikes after a terrible call to Jesse Winker to end a threat and the 6th inning for the Reds.

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37 Responses

  1. Jack

    Your title summed up all the positives nicely

    • Doug Gray

      Thought about “Matt Davidson got to pitch!”, but figured since I have zero pictures of Matt Davidson to use for the featured photo I’d go with this one instead.

    • Burtgummer01

      Like most people I had high hopes for the Reds but unfortunately again we’re wrong
      Unlike most people I don’t blame Bell.the offense hasn’t scored in like 23 innings and I don’t even need to talk about the bullpen

  2. ClevelandRedsFan

    The Reds should buy one of those cardboard cutouts and stick it in the batter’s box.

    Maybe that will at least draw a few walks.

    • Roger Garrett

      Some how I think they swing for the seats.

    • Vada

      That Cleveland/Red fan’s EXTREMELY FUNNY and TRUE statement above should be posted all over the Reds clubhouse for all to see. If the players and coaches aren’t ashamed they should be. How many fans can go to their respective jobs and continuously perform this way and not be fired.

      I am convinced that the MLBPAs only reason to proceed with the season was to GET PAID. It’s all about $$$. After all, a little money is better than none. Breaking the hopes and dreams of their fans isn’t even a passing thought or concern.

      I wouldn’t blame the fans if they were to wake up and decide to WALK AWAY from the entire Reds organization. I would hate to see the first baseball team leave town under a new owner but I suspect it’s in Cincinnati’s NEAR future.

      Anyone who expects 2021 season to be any better should consider writing fantasy novels. A players STRIKE after next season will be the ONLY way to prevent the Reds from losing games.

      Thankfully, the Bengals season is a month away. Hopefully Burrow will help take our minds off the Reds.

  3. JB

    “Scoreless streak moved to 22 years.. Best remark of the night. If it wasnt so funny Doug I would be screaming in agony over this offense.

  4. JB

    Also.. this team team needs some young enthusiasm like what Aquino brought up last August. Get some young guys up and get these guys a little enthused. Take some pressure off and have some fun.

  5. Charlie Waffles

    That will have to be a quick U-turn for De Leon and get shuttled back to Cincinnati at sun up.
    I would hope Kuhnel or Hendrix will join the team in Milwaukee. I hate to give up on Reed, but he may have to be DFA’d now. You can try to run him through waivers and hope he doesn’t get claimed. But with the teams hit by the COVID, they all seem to be claiming pitchers every day off the waiver wire.
    Drastic times call for drastic measures. It is time for the Reds front office to do something more than a couple of shuttle moves. Reds stand 5.5 games behind the Cubs, could be 6 at night’s end. Time to make some hard choices and decisions on the likes of Reed, Stephenson, Lorenzen, Ervin, and Barnhart. Akiyama has been a big disappointment. Suarez even a bigger disappointment. Some of these guys are going to have new places of employment in a couple of weeks.

  6. Davy13

    Over the past couple of seasons the team has had opportunity to sign or trade for youngish (late 20’s), big time, consistent hitters (e.g. Yelich). Where are the prospects that are supposed to come through? The start of this season is revealing how they have missed the offensive train.

    • Cubano

      Sadly, people tout JVM, Aquino, “the kids” as the solution. It’s like being caught in some sorta echo chamber- look at other teams playing baseball. These kids ain’t the Twins, the A’s, etc. Even the White Sox and Indians generate runs. Playoffs seeming like a pipe dream. Giants somehow offensively alive with Donnie Ecker as a hitting coach. It must be scouting, analytics, something leading this team into the cellar with the Pirates

    • ClevelandRedsFan


      For the last years, the Reds never fully
      committed to the rebuild. They held on to Cueto, Frazier, Bruce, Phillips, etc. too long. And when they did trade them, they went after “major league ready” talent instead of superior talent. Well, the only player left from those trades is Cody Reed who has been getting rocked in the bullpen in 2020.

      Also, the Reds haven’t drafted and developed an all star since Frazier in 2007. Their farm system is one of the worst in MLB despite consistent losing for 7 years. Finally, the front office has started using free agency to fill holes instead of using prospects as trade chips.

      Bob C and his crew are quickly becoming the Browns of the MLB with their inability to evaluate and develop talent.

  7. Doc

    As badly as the bullpen needs to get untracked it sure makes sense to hand the ball to a position player. Heaven forbid that a reliever might actually get some work. What a train wreck of a season.

  8. Cubano

    I guess I figured there would be a defensive decline, between the shortened Summer Camp, and the push for signing offense to the detriment of defense. I’m surprised that Galvis and Votto have both really struggled to lock down what appear to be simple plays. At the same time, they end up on base more than the rest of the line up. Moose needs to get well and stay healthy. I’m ready to look at Garcia starting at short- I absolutely don’t see how it could be worse than Galvis spiking throws into the ground. Galvis’ plate discipline seems like a major turnaround… he’s walking and not always swinging at junk. I actually agree that we should bring in a free agent DH/OF and move Winker, Ervin, JVM etc. The flip side of the platoon is the dual roster spots it takes to keep one decent batter on the roster. I would hate for this team to squander the swagger and momentum of a guy like Castellanos by sucking the joy out of the game.

  9. JayTheRed

    Frustration is building fast… I Know its just one appearance for DeLeon but wow he was terrible. Reed didn’t look good at all either.

    Like I have said I am pretty happy with what Votto and Galvis have done this season so far. Castellanos will be opting out this offseason.

  10. Melvin

    Well gentlemen, I believe it is NOW….TOO LATE….to have the proper view of the urgency in this short season and get off to a good start….smh

    • indydoug

      As bad as they’ve been, they’re just a game out of last wildcard spot with 47 games to go. They MIGHT be able to make that up. Get in with their top 3 starters, and who knows…

  11. Melvin

    At least now I know why Davidson is on the roster instead of Aquino….We snuck in a two way player when they weren’t lookin. 🙂

  12. Hanawi

    What’s the downside to bringing in Puig to DH at this point? Would bring some energy as well.

    • TR

      As much as most of us love Puig and his personality, he is not a very consistent hitter. Similar to Aquino.

  13. Indy Red Man

    I don’t know how they’re this bad? They were getting hyped up pretty hard before the season. Somewhere around 10th-12th best team in baseball. The way I see it, management has made alot more effort then teams like the Cubs or Cleveland, but its not showing up on the field. Maybe you blow it up at some point? The 2006 Colts gave up 350 yards rushing to Jacksonville and won the SB that year. You never know? I believe in their talent, but I’m also not rushing out to watch these games either.

  14. ClevelandRedsFan

    Do not trade Winker. He has had a terrible start, but two hits last night could be a sign he’s turning it around. When he’s right, he gives professional at bats every time up.

    Time for Zinter to start earning his paycheck.

    • TR

      Winker is a hitter usually with a good eye. But this season he’s taken too many third strikes. What can Zinter do to invigorate the offense? Perhaps an emphasis on opposite field hitting and slapping the ball around. Runners on-base upset the opposition. Every game does not have to be won by a homerun.

      • ClevelandRedsFan


        That’s how the Indians beat the reds by taking the walks, putting the ball in play, and trying to loop singles instead of trying to drive the ball every single time.

  15. Hotto4Votto

    Man, those good vibes were short lived. This team man…

  16. JNort

    Too many throwers, not enough Pitchers in the pen. The hitting will come around- but it better be Now!!!! The Bell may have for the Manager- who is next man up?

  17. SultanofSwaff

    You’ve got a 60 game season where every game matters so much more. You’re only down 3 runs when Castillo exits while still having 1/3 of the game left to play, but they waved the white flag in the 6th inning by bringing in the two lowest pitchers on the depth chart. No sense of urgency, total Dusty move, but hey it’s what you’re supposed to do according to ‘the book’. The failed logic here is the assumption that the next game will be close.

    Bell really piled the toppings onto his already supersized word salad of a presser in the embedded video. Gheesh!!!

    • KG

      We’re over 20% into the season. Whatever plan/strategy David Bell has isn’t working and the season will soon slip away. It’s time.

      “If you aren’t fired with enthusiasm, you will be fired with enthusiasm.”
      –Vince Lombardi

  18. SultanofSwaff

    As bad as the game was, I don’t believe it’s time to throw in the towel. The biggest problem is one that the law of averages might sort out—the team is 28th in batting average. That they’re 5th in walks and 13th in strikeouts suggests they have an idea of what they’re doing at the plate and there might be some bad luck involved on balls in play…..we can only hope. The statcast numbers for the underperforming guys like Geno are solid (conversely, Votto might be whistling past the graveyard—his exit velo and barrel % are Billy Hamilton-esque).

    On the pitching side, this is a good not great staff whose strengths are strongly tilted to the starting pitchers.

    So yeah, they should probably be one or two games better. Maybe the better question is how the heck are the Cubs so good when their peripherals suggest otherwise?

    • ClevelandRedsFan

      The problem with this team isn’t the stats like exit velocity and barrel %, weighted on base percentage, etc. The problem with this team is they ONLY care about those stats.

      This team just does not play winning baseball. Perfect example last night: Winker hustles for a lead off double and then it’s: lazy fly ball, lazy fly ball, strikeout on ball in dirt. If Senzel hits opposite field to the right side, Reds likely score a run on the next fly out. But they simple don’t think like that. It’s all pull-happy because exit velocity is higher when pulling the ball.

      The Reds need to start thinking about situational hitting. Move the runner over, hit opposite field against the shift, take a defensive swing on pitcher’s count and loop a soft liner. Jose Ramirez did that last night for the Indians and it won the game.

      The Indians beat the Reds in games 2 and 3 by grinding out at bats, getting walks, making contact, squeaking out infield hits, and smart base-running.

      The Reds should have learned something from those games.

      • m2

        Watch most teams and that is the game today. Outcomes are diminishing to three results: walk, strikeout, home run. So-called situational hitting (bunts, hitting to the opposite field et al.) is not embraced by the analytics/sabersticians. Some are beginning to find the game boorish. I submit the Reds over-value their talent – some of the players championed here and elsewhere by Red’s Country are not complete players – be it their fielding, running, situational hitting. Put four or five of these players in a lineup is limiting and leads to a poor overall output. The downstory is the one player who is meeting or exceeding expectations (offensively) is unlikely to remain with the team in 2021 – unless the Reds do a major overpay. Do you blame him?

      • Still a Red

        Lets look at Senzel pitch locations. First pitch low outside, ball. Second and third low outside, but called strikes (but out of zone). Fourth, high heater inside…in the strike zone…hard to hit to right field. sure…that’s all he needed to do, but he (and all the batters) have to deal with the pitches (and calls) they are given.

  19. Don

    I have been not posting (reading all the articles and most posts, watching every pitch of every game, until last night where I shut it off in the 7th) to give the season so time to settle and not react to every thing.

    Agree with most of the sentiments, the team looks to be playing like a team which is 35 games back on September 1st, going through the motions and little to no emotion other than complaints when things are going bad, overall looks like the offensive side and bullpen of this team was no where close be being prepared for the season. I agree with Chris Walsh that there are to many players/pitchers on the active roster and that the relief pitchers have no clue to their role on the team. Unless there is a rule that then must have 28 active players they should reduce the roster to 26 or 25 players anyway so that they bullpen arms get used every other day in a similar role and get some rhythm. Athletics is being confident, knowning one role and never thinking before reacting on the field. Thinking has to occur before reacting.

    For those whom did the Stato, they know I look at numbers.
    I decided to figure out what batting average a player would need to have in the last 47 games, to get to their 2019 avg for the entire 2020 season.
    I used current AB * 4.6 to get to 60 game AB
    Multiple projected ABs by 2019 avg to get the number of 2020 hits a player to have their 2020 average = 2019 average
    Take this calculated hits – current hits and divide by Projected ABs

    Hopefully the math make sense/
    So this is what a player needs to average the rest of 2020 to get to their 2019 avg and how much that is different from their current 2020 avg.
    Barnhart = 0.240 , +0.40
    Votto = 0.268, +0.31
    Mouse = 0.258, +0.020
    Galvis = 0.245, +0.51
    Suarez = 0.321, +0.230
    Senzel = 0.260, +0.019
    Castellanos = 0.277, -0.056
    Winker = 0.291, +0.104
    Casali = 0.262, +0.051
    Ervin = 0.323, + 0.261
    Farmer = 0.254, +0.111

    Other than Suarez and Winker the players are all within 0.050 of their 2019 average,

    For the 60 games a full time player will get to about 180 to 200 ABs.
    For a 180 AB player, to raise their average 0.050 points over the last 7 weeks of the season is 7 hits more than their current pace, that is one extra hit a week than they have had in their 1st 2 weeks.

    As well all can see, except for Castellanos the entire team is in a slump.

    Historically, the Reds have been awful in inter-league play and have only been one game over 500 one time since 2010 in any year, every other year 500 or worse. The Reds historically do not have a good record against the AL ever.
    Somehow these Reds need to figure out how to go 6-4 in the 10 games vs Royals, White Sox and Twins to be 500 (10-10) vs the AL.

    They are 1-2 in the division with 37 games left in the division.
    Most are projecting 31 or 32 wins get to the post season.
    To get to 32 wins, the Reds have to go 21-16 in the 37 games vs the Division.

    They have 10 vs Brewers, Cards and Pirates and 7 vs Cubs left.

    Yelich is only hitting .111 in their 10 games and the Brewers are hitting .220 as a team.

    The Brewers, Cards and Pirates are all scoring fewer runs per game than the Reds so far. So their offensives in the one stat that matters, runs per game are actually worse than the Reds.

    As gloomy as today is after last night, this team still has opportunities and we as the die hard fans cannot be giving up on them.

  20. Bill J

    Don, I’m sorry but, I have given up last year when they said they were going outside the organization for a manager then hire the son of front office personnel. They refuse to trade players when they can benefit from their stats. I’m79 years old, been a Reds fan most of my life but, no more.

  21. Still a Red

    I certainly hope the team isn’t as fatalistic as most of the people on this site are right now. That said, the start is certainly below expectation and one hopes the hitting and bull pen woes are turned around. A a good win streak will right the ship.