The Reds take on the Cubs tonight in the second game of the current 4 game series at Great American Ballpark. Game time is 6:40pm EDT.

Monday saw  the Reds suffer an 8-7 loss, their third consecutive, as a late comeback effort came up short. You can read the Redleg Nation recap of Monday’s here.

The Reds now find themselves very much in need of a win tonight to stem their 3 game losing streak and assure the season doesn’t spiral away from them out of the gate.

Starting Pitchers

Righthander Tyler Mahle is the scheduled Reds starter. The Cubs will counter with Alec Mills, also a righty. Ironically, both Mahle and Mills are getting the call tonight due to injury to their respective team’s projected fifth starter. Mahle is in for Anthony Desclafani who is out, hopefully for just one start, due to a teres major strain to his (right) pitching arm. The Cubs projected fifth starter, Jose Quintana is unable to go tonight due to a left thumb injury.

Tale of the Tape

How did tonight’s starters fare against MLB level competition in 2019?

Green numbers indicate better than median level of qualified starters in 2019. Red worse than median level

Tyler Mahle 5.14 4.66 1.31 1.74 6.1% 23.2%
Alec Mills 2.75 4.09 1.17 1.25 7.2% 27.6%

Comparing ERA/FIP, Mahle appears to have pitched to what he deserved in 2019 which wasn’t up to snuff while Mills seemingly enjoyed some favorable luck in 2019.

Neither Mahle or Mills had enough MLB starts in 2019 to be a qualified starter in statistical rankings. However, if they had been, both would have been in the top half of MLB qualified starters in terms of K% and BB%. Mills WHIP would have rated in the vicinity of 20th in the MLB; but, Mahle’s WHIP figure was no better than 40th of 58 qualified starters.  Distressingly for Reds fans, Mahle’s HR/9 rate was in the bottom 5 range for qualified starters.

Truth is Tyler Mahle has yet to get over the hump and consistently perform at the level many expected of him. In normal times 2020 might have been a make or break season for Mahle as starting pitcher for the Reds. Now in his first start of the season he finds himself on the mound at a pivotal moment for the Reds. Hopefully, he will be able to rise to the occasion.


On Monday, Tejay Antone gave the Reds a fighting chance to get back into a game which looked to be a blowout against them when he entered. He won’t be available tonight after throwing 4.1 innings in that effort. Brooks Raley needed 36 pitches to get through 2 innings following Antoine and also figures be on the shelf tonight.

Three Cubs relievers threw 20 or more pitches and figure to be unavailable tonight. Most notable among that group is their closer Craig Kimbrel.

Starting Lineups

Chicago Cubs Cincinnati Reds
Anthony Rizzo – 1B Shogo Akiyama – CF
Victor Caratini -C Joey Votto – 1B
Javier Baez – SS Eugenio Suarez – 3B
Kyle Schwarber – LF Jesse Winker – DH
Ian Happ – CF Nick Castellanos – RF
Jason Heyward – RF Josh VanMeter – 2B
David Bote – 3B Aristides Aquino – LF
Jason Kipnis – DH Freddy Galvis – SS
Nico Hoerner – 2B Curt Casali – C

News and Notes

Two guys made their MLB debut Monday night for the Reds and both came up big on the positive side. Check out Doug Gray’s deep dive into Tejay Antone’s sterling relief performance which gave the Reds a chance to get back into the game.

Tejay Antone: “Unbelievable” in his Reds debut

Then listen to Tyler Stephenson talk about his 2 hit MLB premier which included his first MLB HR.

Final Thoughts

Several days ago somebody came up with the  idea of dividing 60 into 162 to figure the relative value of a game this season versus the value of a single game in a normal 162 game season. The number they got was 2.7.  There are a myriad of reasons why this ratio might not be a spot on comparison tool; but, for argument’s sake let’s have a look.

The 2.7 ratio equates the Reds 1-3 start to a 3-8 start in a typical season. A loss tonight would bump that count to 3-11. The Reds need a win tonight to keep someone from dragging out the Yogism about things getting late early. GO REDS! 

Data courtesy of  Fangraphs and

238 Responses

  1. docproc

    BobSteve on the IL with back problems. I’ll admit, he didn’t look right–no gas on the fastball.

    • Doug Gray

      Doesn’t the best player(s) depend on who is pitching for the other team?

      • Indy Red Man

        Shogo vs Colon? No…it doesn’t.

      • Doug Gray

        Well, that particular context was missing from the original comment.

      • BO

        I think it depends on who might be the next pitcher warming up in the bullpen?

      • Chris

        No Doug, it was very much implied, but you continue to wave your pom pom’s, as if Bell can do no wrong.

      • Doug Gray

        Play the best players you have implicitly implies that I should have known that someone was referring to two specific players on the team rather than say, two other specific players on the team? How exactly was one supposed to know that the poster wasn’t debating whether to play Shogo Akiyama or Aristides Aquino – a situation where the better option probably involves who is pitching at the time?

        David Bell isn’t perfect. If you can find where I’ve said that, feel free to point it out.

      • doofus

        Agree. “Paralysis by over analysis” IS Bell’s achilles heel. The platooning is not necessary.

        Let Senzel play everyday! Let Winker play everday!

      • Mike

        Chris be careful what you say. Last year I was critical of Bell and got my knuckles smacked pretty good Bell’s bad. Just think, maybe we could have had Rocco but Reds brass thought Bell was better.

      • Klugo

        Whoa,whoa whoa! I wasn’t talking about Winker! lol

      • Chris

        Doug, you know darn well, based on so many comments on virtually every article’s comment thread, what was implied. And yes, I’ve not seen you support a single criticism of Bell’s ridiculous decisions this season, yet. To the contrary, you have made excuses for his decisions each and every time when you have chosen to respond.

      • Doug Gray

        I’ve seen people whining about Shogo not playing, Winker not playing, Aquino not playing, Iglesias and Lorenzen playing – so NO, I do not know what was implied by a comment about “play your best players”.

        I’ll try to overreact better in order to please you, though, Chris. I had felt that four games was not nearly enough time for me to react one way or the other, but I’ll adjust how I think about sample sizes moving forward.

      • Chris

        Not about sample sizes Doug; it’s about common sense. I know it’s hard for you to criticize Bell, but even someone with the Bell blinders on, can surely see that Colon had NO business starting last night.

  2. Charlei Waffles

    Bell must be studiously analyzing the matchups if he hasn’t submitted a lineup yet. Paralysis by over-analysis, Bell’s Achilles heel.

    • doofus

      Agree. “Paralysis by over analysis” IS Bell’s achilles heel. The platooning is not necessary.

      Let Senzel play everyday! Let Winker play everday!

    • JayTheRed

      I have to admit again not happy about Bell taking out starters in the first 3 games and the lineups to me have seemed a bit odd.

      I know not having Moose and Senzel probably is hurting our chances Other than Garret and Nate Jones the bullpen has looked pretty shaking so far.

      5 games in 55 to go… Hitting needs to be more consistent and bullpen too.

  3. Redsfan4life

    Colon over Shogo is a real head scratcher. Shogo from what little we have seen from he looks to be a contact guy. I would say he could more than hold his own vs. LHP.

  4. Old school

    Shogo leading off.
    Winker 4 hole DH
    Aquino LF.

    I miss Moose. Get well big guy.

    • Indy Red Man

      Senzel too. The kid can play, but he’s got to be available? Not to harp on the BRM like every other old-timer on RLN, but they had speed as well as power. The Reds are a little lacking in the wheels department without Senzel.

      • Old-school

        Hey Indy. Yes Senzel. Come back soon and parole the cf confines of GABP. RLN supports you.

  5. BO

    I was hoping to see Tyler Stephenson get a start after his night last night. Oh well, just hope they get the W and everyone can put the last 3 behind them.

    I don’t know about everyone else but my first thought with a delayed lineup is immediately – either they are waiting on test results or someone is hurt/sick. sad world we live in.

    • Wayne Nabors

      Thats exactly what I was thinking myself

  6. doofus

    To-date, David Bell as a manager: D-

    Sorry Doug, your buddy is not cutting it. Good players like Senzel and Winker need to be in there everyday.

    Shogo, Senzel, Castellanos is your OF, LF to RF. Winker the DH.

    • Doug Gray

      I’m very confused why you think David Bell is my buddy. I’m pretty sure that I’ve never spoken to the man.

      Senzel plays every day when he’s available, does he not?

    • VaRedsFan

      I think Winker has proven that he can’t hit lefties…..
      But I never want to see Colon DH’ing again

      • Jim Walker

        I wouldn’t go quite as far as saying Winker has *proven* he can’t hit lefties; but, this abbreviated season is not the time to give away plate appearances as he tries to establish himself versus lefties.

      • BK

        In 149 PA he has a .535 OPS vs. LHP, so he’s not shown he can hit LHP across parts of 4 MLB seasons.

    • Mike

      Bell reminds me of David Shula when he was head coach of the Bengals. In way over his head, makes head scratching decisions, has lost the clubhouse. Just my opinion.

  7. Roger Garrett

    Hard to say game 5 in a big one but we need a win to kind of stem the tide if you will.I am surprised that Shogo isn’t in there every game regardless of who is on the mound.Lots of reason why he should be in my opinion so it was a head scratcher last night to me.Eugenio is in a big time slump and needs to get it going quickly.Again its only game 5 but isn’t he 0 for the season?GO REDS

  8. Sliotar


    Winker has 149 plate appearances in his career vs. LHP.

    In those PAs, BB rate of 12%, K rate of 18% … very acceptable in today’s game.

    Any other player/situation, over parts of 4 seasons, “small sample size” would likely come up.

    Not a Winker honk … just think the Reds have not given a former top 5 organizational prospect a “fair shake” to be an everyday player.

    Especially when Colon is getting starts at DH (Yikes).

    • Roger Garrett

      I agree with you cause the Reds and fair shake just don’t belong in the same sentence.Just hope Shogo doesn’t join Winker.I still remember Billy and Peraza.

      • RojoBenjy

        Now Billy and Peraza got WAY more than their fair shake when they were here.

  9. Melvin

    Just for the record, I’ve been criticizing David Bell and his lineups. While I may not agree with the order necessarily (at least Aki is leading off) I do agree with the players. Would like to see Stephenson play but can’t complain about Casali. Just wish we had better than VanMeter to put at 2B but maybe not. Kinda wish we had Garcia on the active roster to try. May need him eventually anyway because, as I’ve been saying, Galvis looks to have arm problems. If not he could play 2B and Garcia at SS although Garcia probably could play 2B too since this isn’t the sim world. 🙂

  10. chris

    What a JOKE! The game is blacked out in the Nashville area, yet no one can even go to the game in person. How ridiculous.

    • Doug Gray

      Blackouts aren’t about you being able to go to the game. They are about forcing you to sign up for cable and paying the fee to have the sports network to watch it.

      • Chris

        So Doug, then explain why I can’t watch the game in my market. I have cable tv. Extra Innings makes the games unavailable to me, so does MLB.

      • Doug Gray

        Someone in Nashville offers you the ability to have a sports network that carries the Reds game. It may not be the company you have, but someone offers it, and they want you to buy it.

      • Doug Gray

        And yes, it’s absolute garbage that it works that way. But it is the way that it works.

      • Chris

        WRONG! I watch it on FOX on most nights, but sometimes they show a TN feed of FOX in stead, and that is the case tonight. There is ZERO opportunity for me to watch this in Nashville.

      • Doug Gray

        Well then the reason is “you are in market” and the channel that offers the game simply isn’t giving you the game tonight. They own the rights in that market to the game, even if they aren’t showing it. Again, it’s garbage, but that’s the way it works. Tweet at your station and complain. It probably will do no good at all, though.

      • Chris

        Hence my original point, stating this is a JOKE!

    • Preach

      I didn’t think of that. Why would they even do that? I would think live sports is a boon right now.

  11. Melvin

    Mahle looks good. Great start. Now let’s get the bats going.

  12. Roger Garrett

    Blink and the Reds go down on 7 pitches.Same team doing the same thing.

  13. Old-school

    Shogo with a nice running catch.
    General comment. Once healthy, is there anyone who disagrees that Shogo and Senzel.should both start and play 2/3 OF positions 75-80% of the time? It’s not like they are slackers offensively.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I would love to see Shogo get a chance against lefthanded pitching. His approach at the plate seems very disciplined, and I would like to see him get that chance. He was an everyday player in Japan, not a platoon player.

      • Old-school

        Ouch… I ran into that one… Lost in the sun… But that’s why you don’t have start times in July at 640.
        They should start at 730 with no fans. Take the sun out of it

    • Melvin

      I like Senzel……I like Aquino better but I know I’m a minority on that. Aki should play like Votto. My outfield until they prove otherwise most nights would be:

      Aki CF
      Castellanos RF
      Aquino LF

    • Roger Garrett

      I thought they signed him to be an every day player so I guess I missed that one.

  14. Eric the Red

    If this strike zone keeps getting called this way, Mahle will get killed. Let’s see if the Reds notice and take a few pitches.

  15. Melvin

    They gave Billy Hamilton a thousand chances though…..unfortunately. Not saying that Aki and Winker aren’t a whole lot better especially Aki. Winker hasn’t shown me he can hit LH pitching but I’d use him over Colon.

  16. Mark Moore

    Hey all … Mahle did look good so far. Some of that stuff was nasty.

    Loved the looping 2B by Nick. Let’s see if it makes a difference (if JVM can stop just waving at junk).

  17. Mark Moore

    Is it just me, or was that first pitch the kind AA blasted out last year? I know it was on the outer half, but thigh-high and 92 mph.

    OK, let’s see what the 3rd inning does for Tyler.

    • Melvin

      I saw the same thing. Thought he should have crushed it. He has to learn how to be aggressive AND selective.

  18. Mark Moore

    A sun-blind triple … that won’t be good.

  19. Eric the Red

    If the “illness” injured list doesn’t have a set number of days, what possible reason could there be for having Senzel continue to take up a roster spot? Or do I not understand something?

    • Mark Moore

      Almost have to assume it isn’t COVID and he’ll be back tomorrow or Thursday.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Maybe to be placed on that list, he has to have a positive test for COVID or symptoms. Perhaps he has neither.

      • Eric the Red

        Interesting. Am I correct that he’s been described as “ill” rather than “injured”, though?

    • Doug Gray

      I don’t have an answer on this one.

    • Old-school

      Pretty simple..they don’t know either. That’s the interruption world we live in.

    • Mark Moore

      OK, so Thom is saying there is no mandatory time on the IL for anything. Is that the case? I think I need to look that up. I know there was a 60-day thing, but that’s just standard rules.

      • Doug Gray

        For the regular 10-day IL and 60-day IL, there are mandatory times. For the COVID-19 IL, there is no timetable.

      • Mark Moore

        Thanks, Doug. The way Thom was talking, Senzel could have been placed on the IL, replaced for a day, and then, back with the club. I thought it was still 10 days (formerly 7?).

        And I knew about the COVID list and 2 consecutive negatives.

  20. Old-school

    Reds usually play ~18 games each out of 162 against NL central teams. That’s 72/160. That’s 45% of the schedule.

    This year it’s 40/60 or 67 % of the schedule. Losing a 4 game series to the Cubs is significantly more important in 2020. You don’t win and they do at your expense. Losing 2/3 to the Tigers means those head to head are even more important. Reds are digging a really big hole.

    This offense needs to wake up now. Eugenio Suarez- where are you???

  21. DocProc

    For the record, that ball was going in the gap whether Shogo saw it or not. Probably would have been a double instead of a triple.

    • Hal

      Disagree. Routine catch if he sees it.

  22. Mike

    Just a fun question: would you rather have Browning, Jackson and Rijo or Sonny, Luis, and Trevor as your big three?

    • Doug Gray

      I’ll take Rijo if I’m only picking one player, but give me the current three over that group of three.

  23. Preach

    Who’s doing the radio broadcast with Cowboy? Krall? I really enjoy the two of them.

  24. Eric the Red

    It’s kind of funny they can’t talk about this stuff, when the whole point of transparency on player illness/injury was originally because of gambling.

  25. Preach

    I think there are more legal considerations to releasing illness information, especially contagions, than injuries. I’m pretty sure that’s a leftover from some, ah, rather sensitive info when certain conditions were more rampant

    • Mark Moore

      Yes. It’s all according to HIPAA regs.

  26. Eric the Red

    Is it legal for our guys to hit to the opposite field, or is it only the visiting team that’s allowed to do that. These new 2020 rules are so confusing!

    • Mark Moore

      Visiting teams to GABP only … and I don’t believe our hitting coach is even allowed to suggest or teach it.

  27. Mark Moore

    So if we still can’t get any hitting going, this doesn’t end well. And if we lose 4 in a row I’m not optimistic.

    Nice job Tyler keeping it to only 1 more run. Now let’s get the man some support!

  28. Reddawg2012

    Man, watching this team is rough. Feels no different than any of the last 5 seasons. Always playing from behind.

  29. Eric the Red

    There’s plenty to complain about, but on the positive side that was a very nicely turned double play

  30. VaRedsFan

    Since Mills is throwing so slow, why don’t the hitters adjust and move up in the box a half-step?

  31. Preach

    Really knocked the cover off that ?

  32. VaRedsFan

    Some will say that Mahle got “unlucky” that inning with 3 ground ball hits. I say no, because he left those 3 pitches up and in the very middle of the zone, allowing the hitters to hit those balls hard on the barrel.

    • Jim Walker

      In the table I did for the preview, it stands out that in 2019 at least, Mahle was very strong on K% and OK on BB% yet very weak on WHIP. So, that means he gets hit. His FIP also bore that out. He doesn’t seem to have a consistent putaway pit; and his HR/9 is disastrous. That all points to pitches ending up in wrong places. Maybe some of them don’t even look so bad; but, with the shift oriented defenses now being used a pitcher has to pitch into areas which induce hitters to hit into the shift.

  33. Redgoggles

    Can we count on the Cubs bullpen to gift us 2-3 runs every game? We got them right where we want them. Also, not a fan of their cheer leading……or maybe I’m just jealous. Really not a fan of our offense. Zero discipline, zero approach, unless you count swing as hard as you can every time it’s close and make sure you PULL EVERYTHING just in case you hit a home run!

    • Redgoggles

      I’ll take the jinx credit for the oppo shot!

  34. JB

    No life in the hitters. Somebody needs to step up. Big difference in dugout enthusiasm. Suarez is about worthless right now.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      That guy can hit. He doesn’t pull everything.

      • Preach

        What is this “doesn’t pull everything” of which you speak??

      • VaRedsFan

        Yes….maybe the other guys will catch on. Players that go oppo tend to start a hot streak.

      • Melvin

        I haven’t really seen Casty play that I can remember. All I’ve heard is how bad his defense is. I haven’t seen anything like that so far. As a matter of fact, with decent speed, decent arm, and a strong work ethic and desire to get better, he has potential to be pretty good. He certainly can hit.

  35. Roger Garrett

    Won’t happen until we get way down and get cookies to hit.Same team doing the same things for as long as I can remember.

  36. earmbrister

    That was some HR call by Thom … When you’re down 2, a 2 run homer doesn’t put you in the league.

    Math is FUNdaMENTAL

  37. Preach

    Cody Reed…..the Reds Carlos Marmol.

  38. earmbrister

    I was wondering what was going on with Reed.


    A fan

  39. Eric the Red

    Are there any THOM! fans who would like to tell me what aspect of broadcasting he’s good at? Pleasant voice, situational awareness, interesting stories, insightful analysis, anything?

    • Preach

      Telling the same Curt Schilling stories over and over.

      • RedAlert

        Awesome bullpen effort again – issuing free passes will haunt

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I am the type of person who if I can’t say anything nice, I won’t say anything at all. But he does make a lot of mistakes and is very careless with facts. My impression is that he comes in to each game completely unprepared. He’s not that way on football because he has to do homework on the teams he covers. In the case of the Reds, it strikes me that he relies on what he hears from folks once he arrives at the ballpark.

      • Eric the Red

        I’m generally a positive person, but every aspect of his performance grates on me. Anyway…your approach is a good one and probably better for my mental health so I’ll try to dial it back.

    • Redgoggles

      Reds history. As in his family history.

    • Mark Moore

      Eric, I think you phrased that wrong …

      Weren’t you intending to ask the first sentence, as in “Are there any THOM fans?”

      Poor guy will never be his Dad. I get that. But the senseless banter just grates on me.

      • TR

        I avoid THOM by going to the radio with the newcomer, Tommy Thrall?, and the Cowboy. They have a nice chemistry and radio description of the game brings back some warmth that is often missing on TV.

  40. Chirs

    Here we go. Mahle is apparently tired after 60 some odd pitches. Under Bell, it’s hard to pitch long enough to even get credit for a win. Why in the world would you take him out, and put Reed in, who at this point is nothing more than an unknown. Mahle has pitched outstanding so far.

    • VaRedsFan

      3rd time through the lineup issues.
      He pitched well, but those 2 strike meatballs could have been a sign.

  41. Chris

    Doug, so you are blocking my posts, because I don’t always agree with you? Really?

    • Mark Moore

      If Doug blocked everyone who didn’t always agree with him, it would be a pretty empty site …

    • Chris

      Doug, I apologize. It appeared that my post got blocked. Probably because I misspelled my own name. Again, I apologize.

      • Mark Moore

        It’s all good … we’re all frustrated based on so much potential. Now we’re hitting like a sandlot crowd and we’ve lost 2 of our normal starters.

    • Doug Gray


      The “mark as needing to be moderated” filter is having issues. Can’t figure out why some posts are being triggered. It’s been happening for about two weeks now to random posts for absolutely no reason at all that I can figure out. Usually the culprits are someone using a different “name” for an email address that someone else uses, or accidentally using a banned word – but that’s not been happening and about 1 out of every 50 comments is still being flagged.

      • Mark Moore

        Yep … happened to me this weekend. Frustrating when the “rules” aren’t predictable (and I’m an IT guy).

  42. Chris

    Mahle pulled after 4 innings. Poor guy can’t even get a win, in a game that he has been outstanding so far. Wow!

    • earmbrister

      I believe that it was mentioned that opposing batters have a .350 BA the third time thru the lineup vs Mahle. Pulling him just seems like good common sense.

      • Chris

        So I guess Mahle is just a 4 inning pitcher now then. Frankly, I’d be shocked if Reed’s numbers FIRST time around are better than that.

  43. Eric the Red

    I was just starting to type…after that slow walk back Schwarber deserved one in the ribs. Not a hittable 0-2 pitch.

  44. JB

    The Reds can always make the other teams mediocre to average pitcher look like a hall of famer.

    • Mark Moore

      Yep … seems like we face the reincarnation of Cy Young every other night.

  45. Eric the Red

    After that car wash promo, I’m reminded to ask…if you purchase one of those cutouts and then Reds pitchers strike out 12 do you get pizza? Does your cutout? Do you get a cutout of a pizza?

    I should probably quit this drinking game where I take a shot every inning we see 12 or fewer pitches….

    • Mark Moore

      +500 … you are at your in-game MAX for points. But thanks for the laughs. Heaven knows we need it.

    • Mark Moore

      You get a cheap store brand frozen pizza … which is one step up from cardboard.

  46. Old-school

    Castellanos had a really bad Sunday. But, the guy competes and has passion . Put him in RF and the 4/5 hole and leave him there. Once a week he can rest or DH.

    • VaRedsFan

      I’d rather see once per every 30 games in a 60 game season.

  47. VaRedsFan

    1st look at Aki’s arm. Not exactly a laser, but at least it was accurate

    • Mark Moore

      Yes. Good positioning before the catch. Momentum in the right direction. And accurate, if late.

  48. Mark Moore

    Well, I think it might be time to switch over to something interesting … like a test pattern. The level of disappointment can’t be measured (again).

    Stupid Cubs …

    • VaRedsFan

      If you’re into fiction, there are some cable news shows on

      • Mark Moore

        I gave you ALL your points for tonight. Quit lobbying for more …

      • Mark Moore

        My bad … lost track of my points this evening. You get +100 for the suggestion and a bonus +100 for my error.

      • VaRedsFan

        Need to bank some for the future…just in case its a short season.

  49. Preach

    This guy’s breaking stuff ain’t crisp anymore. It’s time.

  50. Roger Garrett

    I guess Reed had to pitch sometime but Bell just burned Strop to get two outs and even if Garrett pitches inning number 7 he’s gone also.Guess it won’t make much difference if we don’t score but I just found that very interesting right there.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Bell saw that as a key moment in the game, and he was right.

      • Roger Garrett

        Guess I thought after Reed gave up the lead why not start with Garrett in inning number 6 and go from there.I do agree it was a key moment.

  51. Broseph

    The walk for Votto was good and all, but man, 91 down the middle is ripe for a deep ball.

    • Mark Moore

      And is it really a slump if you haven’t hit at all yet?

  52. VaRedsFan

    Suarez is pulling his head big time trying to yank every pitch. Stay back and drive a pitch to the right-center gap. Someone page the hitting coach.

  53. Broseph

    Yeah, time to move Suarez out of the 3 spot. Figure it out in the 7th or 8th. Or put Farmer in or anyone who can at least make contact. His glove isn’t saving this team right now.

  54. Sliotar

    There is plenty of fiction going on around here … like that this team has something resemblng an offense.

    One guy has all of the Reds hits.

    Alec Mills getting a start because Quintana hurt his thumb in his kitchen.

    6 solid innings on a night where getting into the bullpen early would have put them under stress, after last night.

  55. Old-school

    Pirates up 2-0. Reds are 9 outs away from being in sole possession of last place after 5 games with this roster and starting pitching staff and pitching coach. 5 years of 90 + losses with a 6 th of 87. Might be time to re-evaluate assumptions.

    David Bell went out of his way to say Tyler Stephenson is not playing. He’ll get his chance to develop at Prasco. Why?

    I disagree. I’ll take Stephenson at catcher this weekend after the Reds get Swept. I’ll take Garcia at SS.

    Bryan price had zero SP. Bell has 91 losses 4 games into his second season.

  56. Mark Moore

    OK, I’ve seen my fill for the night. Maybe tomorrow …

  57. RedAlert

    Nice work bullpen – game , set , match

  58. FreeHouse

    Does it feel like the 2019 Reds again?

  59. Indy Red Man

    When Suarez first arrived, I thought he would be a Julio Franco style high average hitter because he went the other way so naturally. Now he’s Dave Kingman/Rob Deer. Cody Reed is not a mlb pitcher. AAAA guy. Its easy to see. You just can’t walk the leadoff man in a 1 run game. Feels like they’re down 7-2….maybe they’ll rally, but I doubt it. I switched to Dish and they don’t have Reds and/or Cubs? Pathetic, but I don’t care enough to change it.

  60. Erik the Red

    Suarez looks like a September call up. The whole offense looks like they never faced a 90 mph fastball. What’s the earliest in a season a Reds manager was fired? My guess is Tony Perez. David Bell may break the record even if it is Tony.

      • Erik the Red

        I had a senior moment on the Bryan Price 3 – 15 start to the 2018 season.

  61. VaRedsFan

    AG shaking his head after striking out Carratini.
    Baez then takes him downtown.

    I mean it should be plastered on the clubhouse wall not to throw him a fastball in the strike zone. Mahle did a great job against Baez tonight

  62. Preach

    I’m not doom and gloom yet. I look at this as a lot of short series. I like the top of the rotation. But we certainly can’t afford to lose many more of these short series. We may need to treat each one as a playoff series if we drop any more.

    • Melvin

      We should have already been treating each game as a playoff game.

  63. Preach

    Thom hitched to work when he was 14? C’mon

    • earmbrister

      Probably was too lazy to walk the half mile …

      And yes Thom, we’d all be happy if you returned to “professional” dishwashing as a career.

  64. Tom Mitsoff

    For the third straight season, this team forgot how to hit when the regular season started. Some of that is not having perhaps your most important hitter, Moustakas, available. But the depth that everyone thought this team had is not showing anything so far.

    • Cubano

      I agree, Tom- why do you think that is? Is it a fluke? Or some sort of coaching failure? I was quick to blame Turner Ward last year… but the number of limp pop outs is overwhelming, and Nicholas Castellanos cannot see the outside corner of the plate. Funny- that was Puig’s hot zone. For Castellanos, pitch low and outside and you’ve got him nailed.

  65. Mark

    Galvis stinks it’s Garcia time!!!!
    Van Meter stinking how about India?

    • RedAlert

      Agree !!! No time to wait. Always somebody waiting in the wings foR their opportunity

  66. ClevelandRedsFan

    2021 MLB season starts March 1.

    Tell David Bell and the Reds.

    • Jack

      Hopefully Bell won’t need to know that.

  67. RedAlert

    Wow – these guys in bullpen just serve it up – horrible

  68. Indy Red Man

    Reds losing and Homer’s up 5-0. Homer couldn’t get or hold a 5 run lead for us if they played a high school team. Actually I like what the Twins are doing. Some of their homegrown guys are making it and they’ve picked up a few key mercenaries.

    I can’t blame Dick Williams. This squad looked really good on paper. Maybe they catch fire and cruise past .500, but we see how they’re hitting against scrub starters. Not a top #50 mlb starter in the bunch.

  69. TR

    After the positive offseason moves, just the opening Red’s fans wanted to avoid.

  70. Old-school

    Memo to reds fans.
    This season is on the brink.
    Far too many minimized losing to Detroit abd it’s early against the Cubs.

    It’s not . Last place again 1 week into the season.

    • Indy Red Man

      I don’t think you can minimize 1-4? Thats 3-11

  71. earmbrister

    Nothing like Thom waxing poetic about the beautiful facilites at Northern Kentucklie University …

    • don moore

      Don’t fault Thom. The problem is that the Reds’ front office refuses to put Thom on a word count.

  72. Preach

    Casali has done a good job in his role. I really appreciate him.

    • Indy Red Man

      He’s a solid player! I never understood why Barnhart has this stranglehold as the starting catcher? Casali is much more dangerous at the plate and should get more then platoon at-bats.

  73. Billy

    I’m only an occasional visitor to this thread and now I remember why.
    Angry people who think everything and everyone stinks, from players to umpires to announcers.
    Very depressing place

    • Old-school

      That’s an interesting comment. Please expand . The people on this website have a deep commitment to supporting the Reds, who are failing and losing the worst they have since the Great Depression. These people change their day around watching this team.. Are you suggesting people just quit caring about a losing team and move on to golf and sewing and turn it off?

  74. Doug Gray

    I’m not sure when some of you thought we began to allow cursing, but we don’t. You can be mad. You can’t curse here.

    • Mark Moore

      C’mon folks … I’m as frustrated as any of you. But the rules are simple and few. SMH!

  75. Roger Garrett

    New flash.Shogo is a platoon player.Done with this silly stuff.Good luck to all the rest of the year.

    • earmbrister

      Shogo was 0-3, and Ervin came in and got a hit, playing the percentages. One of only 5 hits on the night. Your gripe can’t be with Bell when the ENTIRE team is not hitting. Well Suarez is hitting, he’s 1-17 now.

  76. Mark Moore

    That may be one of the very few positive take aways tonight … too bad it won’t produce anything much of value. But nice hit, Geno.

  77. Broseph

    Please, please, please Votto, go back to Game 1 Votto. This half swinging, hesitant 2019 Joey needs to go back into the box and locked in a very deep ocean.

    • Jack

      He is feeling the pressure already…not that he is alone on this team

    • VaRedsFan

      Spot on Broseph. This bent-arm swing is discouraging. Extend those arms. He got some bloop hits and had some hard hit outs. But when he pulls the ball in the air, is when he is the most dangerous. He used to go oppo a ton, but he doesn’t extend the arms anymore.

    • RedAlert

      Bell has lost his mind . No excuse for that – NONE !!!!!

      • RedAlert

        Ain’t winning squat with this clown at the helm

  78. Indy Red Man

    Colon>Winker? Winker hit a hr off Blake Snell at AAA once. Thats all I would need to know

    Colon is not even a household name in his own household

      • RedAlert

        Send Lorenzen to the other park …. he’s earned it …. take his gas can with him

        Comes in and puts the game on ice

  79. Billy

    To quote someone earlier……
    Keep it up guys!

  80. FreeHouse

    The offense and the bullpen is a BIG letdown. I was a Cody Reed fan and thought he had tons of potential to be a good big league pitcher but I think it’s time for the Reds to move on from him.

    • Indy Red Man

      Cody and BobSteve need to move along. They have their flashes in 7-1 games, but they’re going to get you beat if the other team has a chance to win it.

      • FreeHouse

        True and watch them go pitch good for other clubs as well. Mickey Biceps has been getting rocked as well. Horrible start to this season. They are 1-4 half way to what they started last year in 1-8.

      • Chris

        Agree on Cody, but BobSteve? That’s just nonsense. The guy pitched to a less than 2.00 era in the 2nd half of last season. He may not be a starter, but he’s outstanding out of the pen.

    • TR

      It’s time to say goodbye to Cody and for the Reds to admit that KC got the better deal in the Cueto trade.

  81. JB

    Reds need to just loosen up and relax. With the extra teams in the playoffs this year the boat isnt sinking yet. Alot of teams are losing early. Atlanta,Washington, Cards are losing again tonight. Hopefully Pitt can win as well. Split the series and go to Detroit and win. They just need to focus on every pitch and at bat.

  82. Indy Red Man

    I will admit when I’m wrong. I used to go on&on about how Lorenzen kept the ball in the park and deserved a shot in the rotation. He’s now making up for it. He needs to go to the back of the line… they usually do with BobSteve. 9-1 or 1-9 games only

    • Old-school

      Indy…we are all wrong a lot.
      I remember how much you loved Adam Duvall. I like Winker, but the guy isn’t the same guy who was 2nd in obp in 2018 in the league.

      I don’t think David Bell is the right guy. We need a core of 9-10 guys who always play. Bell is a fantasy manager. Someone said analytics ought to be more than the DH against a lefty is a RH bat with a pulse. That’s about where this team is.

      • Indy Red Man

        You know whats funny though? Right after Duvall left then I read this article where it was noted that Castellanos made the most 380 ft outs in mlb. I kept mentioning over and over how Detroit would probably deal him if the price was right. Of course he ends up here, but I don’t know if he’ll stay? He’s a good fit because he’s got that opposite field power that can work so easily in gabp.

      • Chris

        By the way, this is imo the reason that analytics can be misleading. Players are not computers/robots. If you use analytics like Bell often does, you take players out of their routines. I think Winker is a great example. Bell has taken a player that is truly an outstanding everyday hitter, and platooned him, and even then, he’s often not playing a full game because of pitching changes and further platooning in the game. Bell has managed to make DH style baseball like little league with all the in game moves.

  83. Preach

    Welp, at least Lorenzen is being consistent Everytime out. Consistency is important in a bullpen.

  84. earmbrister

    The “Cowboy” reminding us that the Reds are ONLY three runs down (in the 9th) is very reassuring.

    Between him and Thom, I need to start listening to the Away broadcast.

    Maybe he can start talking about his love of ice cream …

  85. Gonzo Reds

    3-11… it’s late early… we have to win ALL of the next 5 to right the ship. Unfortunately Moose not available for any of them.

    • Indy Red Man

      Its not that desperate yet? Get 1 vs the Cubs and win the Tigers series and you’re 4-6. Go 6-4 from there and you’re back on track for the playoffs.

  86. FreeHouse

    Hey at least he reached his goal in throwing 100mph consistently lol

    • earmbrister

      He wanted to pitch in every game. If the Reds are smart it’s no more than a half dozen games.

  87. Jack

    They can hit when they know they have lost and the pressure is off, they really need to just play the whole game like that and have fun. The long faces in the dugout tell the story

  88. Seadog

    I am not even sure what to say at this point!!! But, I will try

    This is just a bad team. No other way to put it. From top to bottom. It starts with the manager. This team is done. He has made horrible moves from day 1. Started with pulling Castellanos in game 1. He should have known not to do
    that. Then his handling of Akyama is just pathetic. Colon even playing is just beyond belief. My DOG “Ivan” would make better decisions.

    Time for this franchise to cut bait— Trade the guys who will not be back next year. Get whatever you can

    These players will not be back—Galvis/Bauer/Castellanos. They all have started the season well. Trade them now. Don’t waste time. They will not be back. Get what you can. Even with the new rules.

    Fire David Bell—please. He is hard to watch.

    • Jack

      Not a Bell fan not because I don’t think he understands numbers but because I don’t think he understands managing player personalities. This team is tight as a drum. On the other hand, as disappointing as this start is, it is way too early even in a 60 game season to give up on the year.

    • Old-school

      Seadog. I agree. You might be 1 week early…

      David Bell has zero respect from his players. The SP respects DJ. That’s about it.

      Let’s see what things look like in a week against tigers round 2.

      I think your take is spot on ultimate ly.

  89. earmbrister

    Well that was fun. Couldn’t wait for sports to return. Careful what you wish for.

    G’nite Irene

  90. Gonzo Reds

    Couldn’t hit Mills who’s been called Hendricks light. Who do we get Wednesday? Oh right Hendricks full version, just great…

    • ClevelandRedsFan


      You spelled Cy Young wrong twice.

  91. Indy Red Man

    Well during this covid situation I’ve been able to fish alot with my Dad. Thats been fun. I battled a largemouth the other day, but enough about my sister-n-law. More family time is not a bad thing overall.

    In other words, I recommend finding something besides sports & the Reds for entertainment. Actually its kind of eerie to watch them implode on a daily basis without any fans

  92. JayTheRed

    How many loses before Bell gets fired? 2 and 10, 1 and 11, maybe…. The boss man upstairs has be frustrated with this start. So what does it mean if we go 1-9 like we did in a recent start to the 162 game season and ended up in last place. Now we are well on our way to it again in a only 60 game season. I promise you if we end up in last this season in our division heads are going to roll big time.

  93. GreatRedLegsFan

    I propose all fans to do not attend the ball park this season!