Final R H E
Detroit Tigers (2-1)
3 3 0
Cincinnati Reds (1-2)
2 6 1
W: Cisnero (1-0) L: Lorenzen (0-1) SV: Jimenez (2)
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A third straight day of dominant starting pitching turned into a second straight day of the Cincinnati Reds bullpen and offense not getting the job done against the worst team in baseball during the 2019 season. Trevor Bauer struck out 13 batters and allowed just one run in 6.1 innings in his first start of the year. The offense never really got going, and Michael Lorenzen coughed up his second go-ahead 2-run homer in as many days as the Tigers beat the Reds to take the series.

The Offense

It was another day on the struggle bus for the Cincinnati Reds offense. The team didn’t do a whole lot until the 5th inning. Travis Jankowski had a 1-out walk . Curt Casali crushed a ball to dead center, but JaCoby Jones made a leaping catch as he crashed into the wall to save a run. But singles by Jesse Winker and Joey Votto followed and brought Jankowski around to tie the game up at 1-1. Eugenio Suarez walked to load the bases, but they were all left standing there as the inning came to an end on a Nick Castellanos strikeout.

From there the offense went silent again. Josh VanMeter was hit by a pitch to lead off the 6th inning, the bats went silent after that for the next two innings. Nick Castellanos attempted to get things going against his former team with a 1-out single in the bottom of the 8th, but VanMeter hit one up the middle that deflected off of the pitcher right to the second baseman who got a force out on Castellanos and was followed up by a strikeout to end the inning.

Entering the bottom of the 9th inning down 3-1, Freddy Galvis led off with a ground-rule double that bounced into the seats under the power stacks in center field. Aristides Aquino followed up with a double of his own to drive in a run and make it a 3-2 game. Curt Casali followed with a fly ball to center field that was caught, but Aquino showed off the wheels by tagging up and reaching third base to put the tying run one base away. Jesse Winker was then hit by the first pitch he saw to put runners on the corners for Joey Votto with one out.

But before Joey Votto saw a pitch the Reds somehow used relief pitcher Michael Lorenzen as a pinch runner for Winker. After falling behind 0-2 in the count, Votto grounded into a double play to end the game.

The Pitching

Trevor Bauer made one mistake on the day – and Niko Goodrum hit it into the seats for a solo homer. Aside from that, the right-handed starter put together what may have been his best start as a Cincinnati Red. He threw 6.1 innings while giving up just two hits and a walk. Oh, and he struck out 13 hitters along the way on 105 pitches. His final out was recorded on a 94 MPH swinging strike three by C.J. Cron to begin the 7th. Amir Garrett came on and worked around a 2-out walk to send the game into the 8th inning, still tied at 1-1.

Pedro Strop made his Reds debut with a hitless 8th inning that featured a walk and two strikeouts. The Cincinnati offense was also shutout in the 8th, bringing us to the 9th inning tied up at 1-1 and Michael Lorenzen on the mound. Much like the day before, Lorenzen gave up a go-ahead 2-run homer – but this time it was to C.J. Cron. It’s early, but this bullpen has not shown much reason for confidence.

Notes Worth Noting

The Reds are racking up the strikeouts unlike they’ve ever done before.

Trevor Bauer’s 13 strikeouts were the most he’s had in a start since May 30th of 2017 when he struck out 14 Oakland Athletics while he was still pitching for Cleveland.

During the game it was announced that the Cincinnati Reds claimed infielder/outfielder Robel García off of waivers from the Chicago Cubs and assigned him to the Prasco Park roster.

Reds claim infielder Robel García, assign him to Prasco Park roster

Up Next for the Cincinnati Reds

Chicago Cubs vs Cincinnati Reds

Monday July 27th, 6:40pm ET

Jon Lester (4.46 ERA, 13-10 in 2019) vs Wade Miley (3.98 ERA, 14-6 in 2019)

107 Responses

  1. DrunkenViking

    This all looks and sounds oddly familiar…

    • Nelson Coble

      Bell’s line up decisions and pitching decisions are horrible. It is a short season and the per game matrix is 2.6. Should have been a sweep. Use players correctly. Winker leading off is awful. Shogo is a career lead off hitter. This guy is clueless.

      • Rich H.

        Yeah, he really should’ve told Castellanos to hit the ball instead of striking out terribly on 3 pitches with the bases loaded. Terrible mistake by Bell.

      • Indydoug

        2.7 actually but your point remains.

      • Michael E

        Why was Davidson starting first game when we have overflow of talent? I don’t get it. Get four OFs in the lineup at ALL TIMES and leave the IF alone for the most part. I know Mous is IL now, but if healthy, Suarez, Galvis, Mous and Votto should start every stinking game in a short season like this.

        Talk about OVERTHINKING or maybe OVERUSE of analytics? Maybe Davidson got a hit off the Detroit SP back in little league or something.

        Now that I vented a bit, lets be somewhat fair and say, WTF hitters? It only get harder, maybe tougher SPs will wake them up?

        The bullpen, yuck. Note to Bell, stay with your SPs longer next starts, assuming they had built up 80 or 90 pitches before start 1, you should go NO LESS than 100 pitches if they’re rolling. Limit the need for the bullpen and things will look better.

        I sure wish we had traded Iglesias a couple of years back, when they were out of it at the trade deadline. Holding on to closers when sort of rebuilding is a BAD IDEA. Now we see why. Only a few remain good for 10 years and even then they get WAY overpaid.

        Lets hope the bullpen pulls it together and hitters freaking wake up. One hitter actually awake each game won’t get it done.

    • NELSON COBLE

      Bell looks lost. If they lose 3 of 4 to cubs and 2 of three to tigers, that’s 3 – 7 which by the matrix is 8 – 18. Who is the bench coach?

  2. DrunkenViking

    This all looks and sounds oddly familiar…

    • greenmtred

      It does look familiar, doesn’t it? The season’s already over, and it’s Bell’s fault. I clearly wasted my $34.81 signing up for MLBtv. If Bell would just put these guys in the right order, they’d stop striking out and start hitting, and we’d win every game. Yeah, that’s the ticket…

  3. Indy Red Man

    3 runs in the last 16 innings vs the lousy Tigers. Turnbull isn’t actually that bad, but no excuse for the other bunch of zeroes.

  4. Indy Red Man

    3 runs in the last 16 innings vs the lousy Tigers. Turnbull isn’t actually that bad, but no excuse for the other bunch of zeroes.

  5. KDJ

    Hats off to the starting pitching! Maybe they should go 7 rather than 6.
    Frustrating to score more runs in the series, but win less games. Our guys did that too many times last year. Let’s stop that.

  6. Old-school

    Glad to be watching Reds baseball. I’ll be watching tomorrow and the next day and the next day.
    Hope things turn out well with Moose and Senzel.

    2 brutal losses. Certainly feels like a 5 game losing streak.

    • Melvin

      5.4 proportionately if i’m not mistaken in a real season.

    • Indy Red Man

      It is a 5 game losing streak 60 vs 162

  7. Klugo

    Good ol Wink happy to take a HB to set up the DP rather than stay in there and try to make contact with the tying run in 3rd and one out. Dude is not too bright, especially for a baseball player.
    So here we are same ol same ol. Losing home series to lowly Tigers. One run game, no less.

    • VaRedsFan

      Pitch 1 was absolutely grooved too, and he watched it go by.

    • Don

      That was one of the biggest plays of the game. I thought it was a real gift for the Tigers at the time and one batter later that thought became reality.

    • CaliforniaRed

      I was thinking the same exact thing! I feel he would’ve at least tied the game by swinging the bat. When he took the HBP I sensed the doom.

  8. VaRedsFan

    Please don’t come in here and say we are better than our record because of run differential.

    • Sliotar

      Thank you.

      Most tired analogy of 2019 at RLN.

      Beat up on the Marlins and Giants, outscored them by like 40 runs in the 2 monthis of the season …. “proving” the Reds were “better than their record.”

      • Indy Red Man

        Yep….thats how the Reds fare against Pittsburgh. Beat them one game 9-1 and then drop the other two games 7-6 and 3-2

    • Rich H.

      Run differential isn’t an analogy.

  9. Don

    This a series in which winning two of three might have actually been a bit of a disappointment. Instead, the Reds lose two outta three. Gotta have a greater sense of urgency. Previous consolations like “we’ll get ’em tomorrow” do not necessarily apply here. These losses really mean something. You simply can’t be losing a series at home to a team like the Tigers. Miss the playoffs by one game and we’ll look back on this game with incredible remorse. Lorenzen is really hurting us right now.

    • Melvin

      Yeah. As stated above this is like losing 5.4 games in a row in a 162 game season. This is “crunch time”. Every inning of every game. No time to mess around. Period. No time to be “trying things”. No time to be giving people playing time. Jankowski playing when Aquino and Ervin were sitting over there is crazy. Not only that we almost needed him for what he’s here for (Jankowski) in an extra inning game at 2B and he wasn’t available. Nuts!

  10. Wayne Nabors

    As long as bell pitches lorenzen in 1 run games,this will be the results

  11. Roger Garrett

    Dominate starting pitching for 3 straight games gives us hope but Lorenzen threw up again on the mound for the second straight game.Lets hope we have all of this out of our system.Interesting that Iggy didn’t go out for the ninth in a tie game at home but to send Lorenzen back out there after yesterday just to show some confidence in him,can’t think of any other reason,didn’t work out.Its early so we move on because as fans that’s what we do.

    • Melvin

      Yeah. I was very much afraid that Iggy would come out there in the 9th with the same results as today but instead Lorenzen did it.

      • Gene Kehoe

        I had the exact same thought. Time to look at a complete overhaul of bullpen roles. Maybe Jones, Strop and Garrett should be the top 3 bullpen guys. And man, is Suarez lost at the plate right now! Have to drop him lower in the lineup.

    • VaRedsFan

      Strop was fresh. Could certainly gone 2 innings

      • Melvin

        That would have been unfair to the Tigers. Come on now.

  12. Sliotar

    So… no “wire-to-wire?”

    Hitting is bound to improve … Suarez with 0 hits, some main guys not in the lineup.

    Bullpen sure doesn’t look World Series-caliber so far.
    4 series have to be won this year … this team feels a reliever arm or 2 short right now.

    • Rich H.

      I think you’re right about the bullpen, though I don’t think there’s a good solution out there. Lots of high risk high reward in a short season, relying on veterans to get over early struggles vs. call up the kids and see what happens. Tough way to open the season. Not unfamiliar though.

  13. MBS

    Can’t complain about what our starters are doing. Nice to see Galvis contributing every games so far. Aquino got an opportunity today. He should get the start against Lester tomorrow to. Probably going to get our first look at Farmer tomorrow.

  14. Old-school

    Bell in the past ” scripts” his lineup days ahead of time. With Covid and with the shortened season, he needs to stop this and react day to day.

    Senzel didn’t feel well which.means he’s out against the Cubs likely.

    Gotta go with Shogo in CF, Castellanos in RF every day and Winker/Aquino/ and Ervin in LF/ DH rotation/ platoon with Van Meter and Farmer at 2b platoon.

    Jankowski is a utility player.

    • Klugo

      Why was Shogo replaced by Ervin in the 7th vs a RHP?? Seriously, why?

      • VaRedsFan

        Lefty was brought in, so Ervin batted for Shogo

      • Klugo

        I’m pretty sure that was a righty.

      • Old-school

        I think it was a lefty… The good one… But prior to Bell…redlegnation was dusty this and Bryan price that… General consensus was managers might make a difference in 3-4 games in 162.

        David Bell makes changes as if every game isnt decided by players…but him and his analytics.

        Last year he played 5 different left fielders in the same game. He pinch hit for Nick Senzel.in the 6 th inning of an 87 loss team. He rotated in Jose Peraza everywhere and anywhere because he right handed. Never mind he couldn’t hit.

        Pretty arrogant actually. Players don’t matter. It’s chess by the manager and FO.

        Stop ……put the best players out their everyday in the best roles to succeed. Let them get confident in their roles

  15. Jon

    So much for that improved offense the Reds were supposed to have this year. Perhaps the Reds should have kept Jose Iglesias. After 3 games and 13 ABs, he’s hitting .538 with 3 doubles. Maybe the Reds should have spent some money on the bullpen this past winter. Lorenzen needs to stay out of close games and Raisel Iglesias needs to only pitch in save situations.

    • chris

      NO. Iglesias needs to pitch in mop-up duty until he’s traded. He was so bad in non-save situations last year, that people seem to think that he was good in save situations; he wasn’t.

    • Dewey Roberts

      I agree, but I also think the Reds have just become a bunch of losers. This is what happens when management doesn’t try to put a winning product in the field for years in a row. The Reds just lost 2 of 3 to arguably the worst team in baseball at home. And they had three pitching masterpieces. Yuck!

  16. RedsGettingBetter

    Reds from games 2 and 3 were similar to the 2019 version. Now, Moustakas was placed on the disabled list leaving the offense weaker as Suarez is not looking in shape yet and Akiyama has not been getting on base. Lorenzen, Stephenson and Iglesias seem to be out of confidence by this time

    • Jon

      With every game counting as 2.7 games, Lorenzen and Suarez in particular have struggled mightily for over 5 and 8 games, respectively. Time to sit Suarez for a day and put Lorenzen in the mop-up role until he proves he is capable of being a Major League pitcher.

    • jazzmanbbfan

      Akiyama’s OBP after 3 games is .375. Nothing wrong with that.

  17. Melvin

    I’m usually not this hard on a manager but so far, David Bell doesn’t act like he’s up to the challenge of this short season. if he’s got another notch or two to go up to in his managerial skills he needs to go there right now.

  18. RojoBenjy

    Well—they are in mid-season form after all!

  19. RedNat

    Does it bother anybody else that you have to pinch run for your lead off hitter with a relief pitcher? I know baseball has changed but my word, the lack of speed has plagued this team for a long time.

    You would have liked to have a stolen base in that situation. I doubt with Aquino at third you would have even drawn a throw at second if you sent the runner.

    • Doug Gray

      Things just aren’t going to be normal this year. The guy who they would have gone to in that situation would have been Jankowski – but he had to start because Senzel wasn’t feeling well. The other guy that maybe they go to there would be Josh VanMeter – but he had to start because Mike Moustakas is now on the IL because he wasn’t feeling well.

      • PandemicReds

        Jankowski absolutely did not have to start. Shogo easily could have played centerfield and they could have had Aquino in there. Jankowski should not start even one game for this Reds team period if there is another option. He is a pinch runner and defensive replacement.

    • CaliforniaRed

      Lorenzen should’ve stole on the first pitch! The chances of Votto hitting into a DP were high. Why pinch run if you’re not going to run? So frustrating.

    • Old-school

      I literally had an argument with my son at the time saying Jesse winkers speed won’t determine the game. Joey vottos speed will win he hits into a double play. He said Winker is the winning run… I said who cares…Votto ‘s speed is what matters when he hits it to the double play that ends the game …which he did.

  20. Melvin

    This is not just like losing 5.4 games in a row but like losing 5.4 games in a row to a terrible projected last place team in a pennant race. Not acceptable.

    • Melvin

      …at home…with awesome starting pitching. lol

  21. burtgummer

    And now the Reds are tied for last place
    I can’t see that changing until Bell is shown the door

  22. Tom Mitsoff

    Bell has to find guys he can count on at crunch time. So far I would put Garrett and Strop in that bucket — based on what they have achieved so far, not reputation. Bell can’t keep putting Lorenzen in there in key situations unless he first shows he can keep teams off the scoreboard in non-crunch time situations. There just is no time for letting a guy work through difficulties — particularly a non-star player.

    • Melvin

      I agree 100% Tom. I would say the same for Iggy giving up home runs.

    • MBS

      He does, and Jones looked dynamite game 1. He also needs to give his starters a longer leash. These guys are ready, and they are going 12 starts, not 30.

      • Grand Salami

        He looked good, not dynamite. Shogo saved him from an extra base hit.

  23. Melvin

    They’re not going to fire him but I do think someone needs to explain to him a little bit more about the urgency thing. LOL

    • RojoBenjy

      They gave him some new toys but that doesn’t improve one’s baseball IQ.

      I agree this whole stretch is a playoff if it means anything. Otherwise it’s a large exhibition.

  24. docproc

    I am mindboggled that Lorenzen wasn’t stealing on the first pitch. He wouldn’t have even drawn a throw, with Aquino at third with a big lead. Then there would have been no double-play situation, and Joey’s ground out would have scored the tying run.
    This seemed so obvious to me.

    • Redsfan4life

      I said the same thing. To top it off the first pitch was a change up. At worst they gun down Aquino at home on the ball Votto hit and the inning gets extended, or they walk Votto and Suarez and Castellanos gets a chance.

    • Melvin

      That’s a pretty good point. The infield positioning possibly would have been different too had he gotten the SB which means a better chance of the ball going through and winning the game.

    • Indy Red Man

      I totally agree! The Reds have to be one of the worst in mlb as far as scoring guys from 3rd with less then 2 outs. You have a tiny park where they can score on HRs, but the other guys get cheapies too. I hate sitting around and waiting on HRs, but they can’t manufacture runs to save their lives. Joey is seeing it well….whats wrong with a hit-n-run with Lorenzen? If they throw to 2nd then AA can steal home.

      Apply pressure to the other team and they might make mistakes. How has sitting around and waiting on HRs been working for us lately?

      • Doug Gray

        Lately?

        This team has played three whole games.

      • Indy Red Man

        Lately as in the last 5-6 years

      • Doug Gray

        So entirely different teams that have absolutely nothing at all to do with this one?

      • chris

        Completely agree. Then again, that’s the game now days. You get a strikeout, walk, or a homerun. The DH just adds to this way of playing the game too. Ironic, these guys are in better shape than every, but they aren’t able to do the little things that make the game so great, and of course starters can’t even pitch more than 6 innings without risk of some form of injury; not to mention, the idea of a reliever pitching more than one inning. GEEZ!

      • Indy Red Man

        They play to this park and their supposed strength with power hitting, but its an illusion because we give up whatever we hit usually. Then they go on the road and can’t manufacture squat in the bigger parks.

        I’m not looking for a running argument, but they’ve had this strategy since gabp opened. It.is.not.working

    • docproc

      I mean, Bell knew he was burning the DH by pinch running Lorenzen for Winker there. I assumed it was for good reason: Lorenzen was going to steal second and eliminate the double-play possibility. Good call.

      When Lorenzen didn’t steal and Joey grounded into a game-ending double play, I was left wondering, “What was the point?”

      Unless Lorenzen missed a steal sign, it was just one more befuddling managerial move by Bell.

      • Tom Mitsoff

        Another way to look at it is that Bell was trying to make the person representing the winning run a speedster instead of the below-average-speed of Winker.

      • Grand Salami

        But speed (of the 1st base runner) has zero impact on the double play ball.

        So Bell was only considering half the equation if all he wanted was a guy who could more easily make 1st to 3rd on a base hit or 1st to home on a two-bagger. He didn’t consider the strong possibility that Votto making an out might be a double play. Even after Joey had hit into two or three already this short season!

  25. VADA

    Classic Reds performance. Classic example of how spending BIG $$$ doesn’t = a winning team.
    I can almost hear the thoughts of the players at the alternate field wondering WHY they haven’t been sent to GABP yet.
    Lorenzen is a JOKE. Assign him to a Little League team somewhere.

    • Doug Gray

      We talking about the same Michael Lorenzen who had a 2.92 ERA last year in 85 innings?

      • Old-school

        Michael Lorenzen was supposed to be the guy in his prime who got right handed hitters out in crunch time from the bullpen to help the reds get to the playoffs.

        Everyone agrees there is no warm up period. Lorenzen failed miserably twice against the worst team in baseball when it was time to go from day 1, yet the reds are 1-2 and he’s not ready. He’s active on social media letting everyone know how ready he supposedly was.
        Criticism is warranted.
        It’s 2020 with a 60 game covid pandemic. Be ready or go home.

      • Doug Gray

        Criticism that Lorenzen failed when asked? Sure.

        Ripping David Bell a new one because he chose to go to Michael Lorenzen, who has been incredibly good the last two seasons? That’s crazy talk three games into the season.

      • Old-school

        Bell and Lorenzen I said nothing. Watching the game I actually said get Lorenzen out there again and wash away yesterday.

        Criticizing bell for his lineups and inning to inning rotations on position players entirely different.
        Telling the world in March shogo is your lead off hitter and again July 16 and then benching your $20 million dollar player to platoon for Davidson? Insanity and stupidity.
        Yes- David Bell manages as if players don’t matter. They are all interchangeable parts based on matchups. Jose Peraza and Matt Davidson are starters because of handedness.

      • Doug Gray

        More of just an overarching reaction on my end – so that’s on me. Read the original comment (not your original reply) as a criticism on both guys.

      • RojoBenjy

        @Old School
        +1 on the above.
        The MLB is not a development league

      • Old-school

        Winning isn’t about the X’s and the O’s, it’s about the Jimmy’s and the Joe’s. Dusty Baker had the players abd he won a ton, he couldnt win in the post season. Bryan Price didn’t have the Jimmy’s or the Joe’s and he lost a lot.

        David Bell has 10x the talent of Bryan price. He has the Jimmy and the Joe’s and way more ….yet can’t get out of his own way over managing. . The best 3 SP in the NL. If he can’t win with this starting pitching and roster, find somebody who can. The Cardinals didn’t mess around. They fired matheny and Schild was manager of the year and the Cardinals immediately won

        David Bell needs to win 3/4 in Chicago. Period. Leaving Chicago 2-5 isn’t ok with this roster.

      • VaRedsFan

        Lorenzen wasn’t good last year. You’re looking at stats instead of watching games.

  26. Erik the Red

    The offense struggling against the Tigers the last two games is more of a concern than the bullpen. Winker, Suarez, and others need to start hitting soon. We do not have two weeks for them to find there hitting stroke.

  27. TR

    I sense that Suarez is not completely recovered from his injury. The Reds need the offense of Mr. Reliable.

  28. ClevelandRedsFan

    I’m not so sure hit and run would have worked with Votto and Lorenzen.

    Votto’s ground ball was hit pretty hard and they may have still pulled off the DP. Plus Lorenzen may be fast but not that great of a base runner.

    That was the at bat in which Votto needed to go opposite field. The ground ball may have squeaked through.

    • DocProc

      I’m not saying hit and run. I’m saying straight steal. Lorenzen is plenty fast and probably wouldn’t have even drawn a throw, with Aquino on third.

    • VaRedsFan

      Votto hits the ball in the air to the opposite field, which would have worked, but they pitched him inside which made it harder. He got in a 2 strike hole, and ended up hitting the ball hard on the ground. He has got to find a way to hit the ball in the air there. No need to keep taking strikes when all you need is a fly ball.

      • Still a Red

        Joey is good…but no he can’t just get it done every time. He’s got to work with the pitches he gets. There is a pitcher involved who’s job is to get Joey to hit it on the ground. Earlier you saw him reach down low to lob a blooper to tie the game. He took the first two….low outside, barely in the strike zone…high inside out of the strike zone, but called strike. Third pitch nearly in the same place…had to swing. Lorenzen should have tried to steal, if not first pitch then second. Hard to take bat out of Joey’s hands on the third pitch.

  29. ClevelandRedsFan

    I actually think Bell managed a decent game today. He used his top relievers out of the pen, while avoiding the temptation to use Iglesias in the 9th.

    I would have started Aquino over Jankowski and then moved Shogo over to center. But Jankowski drew a walk and scored a run.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      I thought the move in the ninth inning to put Lorenzen in to run for Winker was brilliant. He put the pitcher into the DH spot in the order in a very clever move. It shows me that there are some really sharp minds working on strategy in that dugout.

      • Rednat

        the move to pinch run for winker with Lorenzen was spot on but it was only half of the battle. the second half is getting lorenzen in motion and over to second base. with aquino at third i dont think the tigers would have even risked a throw to second to try to cut him down.

        i share the frustrations of the commenters above. the reds have been this lumbering, power hitting team that totally relies on the home run for offense for quite some time now, (dating back to the Ken Griffey Jr Days imo) and it just has not worked out well for them. i felt Dusty Baker tried to change the culture a bit to a more aggressive baserunning style and we had success. But Jerry Narron, Dave Miley, Bryan Price and now David Bell have had the same play calling systems of basically just waiting for someone to hit the long ball.

        i really feel Bell wants to be more aggressive but it almost seems like he thinks he will get in trouble if he calls a play and somebody gets thrown out trying to steal. anyway disappointed we lost but glad we are actually talking baseball and not corona!

  30. seadog

    I am a glass half-full kind of guy. I have given David Bell the benefit of a doubt. . I am done.

    I think he has lost control of being a manager. Good guy/good mlb player. Not a head coach. Kind of reminds me of Tony Perez as a manager. Yes he managed the Reds.

    He has totally lost control of this team. No, he did not “pitch”. What he has done, is loose control to—players (Castellanos) front office (analytics) etc.

    This team needs a Dusty Baker/Lou as HEAD COACH, or even Pete Rose…

    Mark it down. Until then. It is what it is.

  31. Reddawg2012

    Honestly, I came to this recap feeling frustrated, but by the time I’m done reading all the comments I’m laughing. Everyone chill! It’s only 3 games. Even if they go 1-59, at least we’re playing baseball. There are way more important things going on anyway. I for one am just going to enjoy watching baseball, and appreciate that I still have my health.

    • Grand Salami

      Yeah, Bell needs to let players find a groove and improve consistency for them (namely Castellanos and Shogo) and the order of relievers needs be tweaked.

      Bad start to the season but it’s still wide open. Reds need to own their division and rest takes care of itself.

      The doom and gloom and fire Bell calls all seem a little premature

  32. GreatRedLegsFan

    This is certainly unexpected results for the first series against one of the worst teams and with the top three starting pitchers. Perhaps some bullpen arms are not ready yet and some bats need to get on track. Hopefully Moustakas will return soon.

  33. Indy Red Man

    Whats up with playing Detroit 6 times? I thought it was 10 in division and 4 vs the AL Central? Are they just making it up as they go along? My Madden tournaments with my friends 25 years ago were more organized. What professional league decides how many teams make the playoffs the day before opening day? Its insane and I want to protest that we have to play the mighty Tigers 6 times.

    In other news….whats the word on Senzel? Hopefully its not covid, but he’s a magnet for something. If any Red, past or present, were to fall victim to bear attack, bear trap, landmine, or curb hopping 88 Impala then I’m sure it would be him.

    • Wayne Nabors

      Thats a good one indy,but spot on

  34. Ed

    The comment section seems wild to me. I don’t believe any of us here would be better at managing a professional baseball team or evaluating talent. I hope the comment section allows you to now off steam.

  35. Jim t

    I love baseball as much as anyone but my thought since May has been to shut sports down until a Vaccine has been developed. That hopefully will occur at the end of the year. Putting the players and their families at risk is not something I would be willing to do. The protocol on a positive test in most places is anyone who has been in contact with the person testing positive needs to quarantine. Day to day players availability will be subject to change due to the virus. It could sweep through the teams for the sake of a 60 game season. This is not something that is essential. It’s a nice to have but not essential. If a player or a family member loses his or her life over this will It be worth it. We have one case already and Senzel and Moose could have it. See everyone next year.

    • Grand Salami

      The goal was to flatten the curve, never to stop life as we know it to prevent everyone from catching it.

      Let’s face it, these guys will probably all get it and considering their age and their health, it will barely have an impact on their lives. The sooner the MLB player pool reaches heard immunity, the sooner the virus ceases to be a factor during this season.

      • greenmtred

        The existence of herd immunity with covid is not verified, and hasn’t been a factor, so far (see Sweden). And most of the players very likely would not have serious cases, but they come in contact with other people who come in contact with still more people. There are countries that were very proactive and have nearly eliminated the virus, allowing reopening. Not true for us, so we need a safe and effective vaccine. Being careful while we wait will certainly save thousands of lives.

    • RojoBenjy

      What about the people that don’t believe in vaccines, Jim t?