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8 Responses

  1. Colorado Red

    As far as Adam,
    462 HRs usually does it for the HAll, but a 17 WAR and a 235 batting average, means no.
    It is the Hall of FAME, not the hall of very good.

  2. Bdh

    I say go for holt because you need the guy who can play short. There’s risk in the outfield but there’s plenty of solid options. Shogo, Senzel, Aquino, Winker, Ervin, VanMeter, Schebler, Holt if you sign him, and even Lorenzen can play out there but shortstop realistically only has Galvis right now.

    Then you don’t need to package away several of the current young controllable Reds outfielders to get a shortstop when you can go out and get a shortstop at the deadline for much less than what’s being asked now. For example I don’t see the Phillies doing any better in the east than they did last year so that 1 year deal that Didi took could end up being spent halfway in Cincy after all.

  3. Matt WI

    Doug… your response to people who think that Suarez “played SS” because he covered that area on hard shifts was absolutely perfect! “The Reds did not expect the ball to even be hit to him in those situations.”

  4. Sandman

    I wanna talk about something completely unrelated to this post (but not unrelated to the Reds) and that’s bcuz I have an apology to issue.

    A lot of you may remember that way back when the Reds started this most recent rebuild that I railed and railed against it. I still believed that the previous version could still win if they added just a couple more key pieces or so. Some of those players I just didn’t want to see leave.

    And all I kept getting back from some of you was, “it’s the business side of sports”. I wanted to smash the mouth of everyone who said that to me.

    BUT!!!!! I think my eyes have finally been opened to the necessity of the business side of sports (even though I still hate it) and the reason my eyes have been opened comes from a surprising source.

    What some of you may not know is that I’m also a die-hard fan of the Bengals. Been a fan of them as long as I have been the Reds (30 yrs). And I’ll continue to be a fan of theirs so I don’t need anybody ragging on them or telling me I shouldn’t be their fan or a fan of football in general. That will just fall on deaf ears.

    But, my eyes were opened bcuz of Mike Brown (owner of the Bengals). To try and make a long story short…he don’t believe in making trades bcuz, “how you supposed to get better if you’re trading away your best players”. Those words were more recently uttered by Duke Tobin (the defacto GM of the Bengals) but I believe Brown has uttered those words himself. It’s an organizational philosophy that Brown set in motion.

    Anyway, as I’m listening to those words being uttered the only thought I kept having was that Brown/Tobin sound like obstinate fans instead of businessmen. I’m beginning to believe their is no one in that organization that knows how to run a franchise.

    Anyways, I just wanted to apologize for my rants against the rebuild. I now see the error of my ways and you got Brown to thank bcuz of that.

    • Sandman

      The Bengals are what happens to a franchise when it’s run by obstinate fans….very little success and what success they do have ends in first round exits in the playoffs.

    • greenmtred

      No apology necessary, Sandman. For me–and seemingly for you–part of being a fan is liking particular players. I wrestle with it, too. Baseball’s appeal is partly that it’s a human game, played by people for other people’s entertainment. When your favorite team wins, it’s a lot of fun, but it’s also fun to follow and enjoy the work of particular players, so when those guys are traded or let go for “business” reasons, it’s easy to feel cynical. Glad to see you back.

      • Sandman

        Thx, I never really left…. I just ain’t had a lot to say.

        I’m still gonna try and not have anymore favorite players and I still hate the business side of sports but it’s easier to accept when you got competent ppl handling such decisions like the Reds do now.

        But, even though I still hate the business side of sports, I can see a little better now how it might be necessary.