Final R H E
Cincinnati Reds (60-68)
0 7 1
Pittsburgh Pirates (54-75)
14 10 0
W: Williams (6-6) L: Wood (1-3)
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The news from this game was that Andrew Luck announced his retirement while the game was happening. This was a football game, right? Well, it was a football score so I’m counting it.

The Offense

Aristides Aquino doubled in the 9th inning. Tucker Barnhart reached base for three times in a second straight game, going 2-3 with a walk. Alex Wood, the starting pitcher, had two hits. And Jose Iglesias went 1-3. The Reds were shut out by statistically one of the worst pitchers in the league for 6.0 innings, then the bullpen finished it out. Go get ’em tomorrow.

The Pitching

Alex Wood was good for the first five innings, but then the sixth inning happened and that’s where the game got away from him and from Cincinnati. He walked the first two batters and hit another one after a force out. That was the last batter he would face. Lucas Sims came on and allowed all three runners on base to score, then allowed two more and it was quickly 7-0. The Pirates played add on, scoring three more in the seventh and another four in the eighth inning to make it 14-0.

Notes Worth Noting

The Pirates organization outscored the Reds organization in the Majors, Triple-A, and Advanced-A match ups by a score of 30-3. Only the Daytona Tortugas scored in the match ups, and they lost 9-3 in a rain shortened game.

The uniforms are still terrible.

Up Next for the Cincinnati Reds

Cincinnati Reds vs Pittsburgh Pirates

Sunday August 25th, 1:35pm

Trevor Bauer (10-10, 4.06 ERA) vs. TBA

30 Responses

  1. Chris Holbert

    I think the FO really needs to think about a change in the hitting coach. That seems to be the big inconsistency. THere will be up adn down days for some of the pitching, but the hitting has been below average for most of the year.

  2. Jon

    Last winter’s task for Dick Williams was #GetThePitching. It’s quite clear, with just over a month left in the season, what this winter’s agenda will consist of. This year, it is two-fold: #GetTheHitting and #FixTheBullpen.

    It’s a given that Williams will be making moves this winter. He has to, having already committed to going all-in for 2020 by trading away Trammell for one year and two months of Bauer. This means that whatever Williams does this offseason needs to be bold. The team must be willing to take risks. No more waiting for players to sign at the end of January or the beginning of Spring Training because no other team wants them. No more waiver wire pickups, unless it’s specifically for a bench player. The Reds need a lineup of legitimate hitters next year to win the division. They need to sign at least one of the following three free agents: Rendon, Gregorious, or Grandal.

    Oh, and I think it’s a given at this point that Turner Ward gets fired after the season.

    • D Ray White

      They’ve traded away their best MiLB assets already. Most of the MiLB pitching that looked promising in 15-16 has not planned out. If they don’t win in 2020 it might kickstart another rebuild. The bottom line is the Reds have largely blown the rebuild. They only have to look at the Braves to see how a good rebuild works.

  3. Jon

    Anyone else think the Reds players have given up on David Bell? Hitters consistently having poor at-bats, even against terrible opposing pitchers. Sloppy defense all around lately. Poor bullpen management by Bell.

    Maybe the Reds can hire Maddon this winter if the Cubs don’t re-sign him. Wouldn’t be the worst idea.

    • RedNat

      I felt they gave up on Riggleman about this time last year as well. makes me think it is a clubhouse issue. after Scott Rolen left there has been in a major void in leadership on this club.

    • RichS

      Consider that for the entire year, Bell has tinkered with a starting lineup that is no longer re ognizable. How can you expect any consistent y in play when there is no consistency in your place in the lineup.
      This game summed up the entire year. Fundamentals suck, hitting sucks and most players fall into that same description. I am moving on to football…but, alas even Andrew Luck got tired.

      • Mason Red

        This is a team comprised of bits and pieces with players playing out of position and up and down the batting order all in hopes of finding some way to win. I can’t say DB is a bad manager because of what he has to work with. He manages in a way much like throwing something against the wall in hopes something will stick. That’s not his fault. It’s the fault of the franchise.

    • Steven Ross

      Love to see Boch. Read my mind while watching the Giants-A’s game last night. He says this is it though. Maybe after a year off, he might be interested in returning? Great manager. Take him in a second over Bell.

    • Streamer88

      No, I do not think this. Baseball players don’t play hard or less hard for their coach. They aren’t trying to win one for the gipper. These are type A personality (mostly young) athletes slogging thru the long 162 not really in a pennant race.

  4. Redsvol

    I think the bullpen is simple burned out – too heavily used early in the year. The offense is an enigma this year – there have been some good seasons by some but overall the offense has certainly underperformed. Do we assume Senzel is the answer in center? Are Iglesias and Galvis good enough to man shortstop for a playoff team? Can we afford to stick with Votto underperforming at a premium offensive position? Do we assume Desclafani and Wood can improve.

    I think its obvious catching and relief needs to be upgraded if possible (Grandal). Lots of big decisions looming for the front office. I hope they are up to the challenge.

    • Doc

      When the Reds have had great bullpens in the past, they have had three guys throw 100 innings each. It’s beyond me how someone gets worn out throwing 50 innings over 125 games.

  5. Great Redlegs Fan

    Pobrecitos los rojitos…

  6. Chris Holbert

    I would bet by the end of the season, Bell will have the most different batting orders for 162 games, by a wide margin in MLB. I still say that has some influence on the inconsistency.

  7. D Ray White

    Trader Jack was a good skipper; the best they’ve had since Sweet Lou left.

  8. RedNat

    I went to the Louisville vs Indianapolis Indians game the last 2 nights and I tell you there is not much in AAA right now. Jose Siri looks lost.

    maybe Jonathan India will be a good player but other than that what we have in the majors now is what we are going to have for the future. We just have to pray that the Van Meters and Senzels and Ervins continue to improve.

    I do think when Hunter Greene returns we have to at least see what this guy can do at the plate. at this point he may be our biggest offensive threat in the minors right now.

  9. TR

    The consensus in 2000, when the Reds let Trader Jack go, was that he was too old at age 69 after the Reds finished second his last two seasons. McKeon then went to the Marlins in 2003 and won the World Series.

  10. Darrin

    Why is DD starting, the dude has literally been other worldly bad since the end of May.

    • jazzmanbbfan

      Because David Bell wants to “get him going”. It’s called magical thinking and usually is reserved for young children. That’s the only explanation I can think of.

  11. The other JB

    Yes the rebuild is on shaky ground, compare the reds to the Padres ,White Sox , Braves , teams that are loaded with young talent and with very good farm clubs Where did we go wrong ? The front office perhaps ( hiring a minority owners son ) to head up the operation. The hiring of David Bell by this front office . The Reds need to look at some of the teams that are able to develop young players and poach some of their management instead of using the good old boy network and promoting from within.

    • Mason Red

      If Tony LaRussa or Sparky Anderson or any great manager you can name managed this team the results would still be close to the same. I’m not saying Bell isn’t without fault but this is still a bad team. They aren’t as bad as in the past but they’re still bad.

  12. Mason Red

    The Reds lose really well so I don’t think there’s any danger of them resorting to losing on purpose.

  13. Mason Red

    Losing by two touchdowns in Pittsburgh is something else the Reds and Bengals now have in common.

  14. TR

    David Bell may have found his calling as a front office man when he was a V.P. of the Giants last year. And, for the Reds to get in the right direction in 2020, a new hitting coach is needed.

  15. jazzmanbbfan

    Well, Phil Regan was hired as the Mets pitching coach at age 82 this year so maybe McKeon is an option…???

  16. scotly50

    The Res are what they are: Losers.

    They look like they are just out there for the paycheck, at least since 2013. The Reds need to clear out all the veterans, (ie the cancer). They need to start fresh and develop a young team with a winning attitude.

  17. NCREDSFAN

    I guess it could have been worse . . . the Pirates could have thrown a no hitter! Hopefully, this is the rock bottom point of the season because it’s hard to get much worse . . . although I think this team has the potential . . . to have a worse point . . . we shall see.

  18. Doc

    I believe the draft rotation should be set based on records after 100 games. That should greatly diminish, if not eliminate, tanking. The first 100 games, when everyone is still trying their best, is a better measure of a team’s quality.

  19. BigRedMike

    That game took a chunk out the positive run differential

    The 1 run game record seems to be result of just not enough elite hitters up and down the lineup. The pitching is solid to keep the games closer.

    As has pointed out, the Reds have no hitters near the top of their position. Light hitting catchers and SS hitting in the middle of the order.

    The FO has acquired great pitching. Need to continue to work on the bullpen, which will fluctuate year to year. They need to figure out how to obtain young position players that make a difference. The idea to go all in on a trade for Lindor is a good one. Not sure the Reds have enough in the system to make those trades now.

  20. Redsvol

    I think the team is better now than in April. We’re certainly going thru a rough patch and no-one likes to lose to the pirates. However, I’m still encouraged for 2020. Positives for me;
    – 4 legitimate starting pitchers under contract for 2020.
    – 4 guys in bullpen who were very good till recently (burnt out?)
    – 6 starters with OPS > .800
    – team plays better when Casali plays (hasn’t played since 7/15).
    – money to spend in 2020 without ruining future flexibility.
    – ML tradeable assets (Iglesias, Winker, Barnhart) that wouldn’t be a great loss yet could bring back assets that fit better.