Interesting names because both are players with one year of control.  

30 Responses

  1. Corky Miller

    Gennett, Iglesias for Wood, Verdugo, Puig and Urias?
    Then sign a Familia to close.

  2. Private Gripweed

    With the one year of team control aside, I like Alex Wood.

  3. NP

    I could see a situation where the reds add a guy like Rich hill or Alex Wood, and Puig. Sign Dallas K or Happ, and win next season. Get scooters contract off the books, Put Senzel at 2b in 2020. One year closer to trammel and Siri being ready, and a solid team next year. The next offseason make more moves. Like sweet Lou said, turn the roster over each season.

  4. Nate

    I really like Puig but I would want more than just 1 year.

    The market has spoken for Corbin: Corbin’s deal includes a $2.5MM signing bonus, per Heyman, and the following yearly salaries: $12.5MM in 2019, $19MM in 2020, $24MM in 2021, $23MM in 2022, $24MM in 2023 and $35MM in 2024.

    I’m not sure the Reds could/should/would do something similar for Kuechel. Could be why they are looking at Wade, Happ & trades from the reports

    • scotly50

      I agree. They do not need to lock a starter down with those type of numbers. It could be a crippler, for this organization, if it did not work out. But I do like the two Indians arms. Buaer would be my choice, albeit with less control. But it would be nice to see Klubers’ every start, followed by Miley, Castillo, and Happ.

  5. sabr-arbitrage_for_value_from_information_assymetries

    Reds should seek Dodgers’ RHP Ross Stripling. Youngish, very good, multiple years of playoff experience, but vastly under utilized (and thus possibly under valued/deemed expendable) by the Dodgers.

    • Dave Bell

      Guy was an all-star last year so I’m not sure how undervalued he’d be. But I like your thinking.

      • big5ed

        Yes. I watched that game on TV with a Dodgers fan, so I remember it well. Stripling was making his first MLB start back after surgery (maybe TJ), so they just couldn’t let him go past his pitch limit.

  6. Tomato ToVotto

    Scooter and Homer and a (non-impact) prospect to LAD for anything under $8-10million in payroll they want to lose (or nothing at all!). Scooter is expendable (with Senzel stepping in), and the $25+ million off the books would allow them to replace Bailey with one or more pieces they need.

    • Westfester

      Sending Homer to the Dodgers will require an “impact” prospect. That’s the whole reason they’re offering to take him off our hands.

  7. sezwhom

    Well, we did steal their hitting coach.

  8. Gonzo Reds

    No to Lynn. When was the last time that a former Card actually was good after being cast off by them? Gotta stop talking up every former Card. Just say NO!

    Really hoping for a Bellinger/Wood for Gennett/Iggy (other pieces included I’m sure). Bellinger could be a star and Wood has the stuff to be a #1 or #2. Plus frees up 2B for Senzel and we can certainly find or develop another closer. I’m also not against keeping home town hero Gennett and trying Senzel in CF.

    • dougschloemer

      “A little less talk if you please …a lot more action is uh what I need…” (country song). Lets get on down to the main attraction… with a little…”

  9. James H.

    Puig would be a NICE answer to the Cardinals acquiring Goldschmidt, that is, if the goal of the team, like the Cardinals, is to sign him to an extension. If he’s unwilling to sign an extension, I feel the Reds shouldn’t waste the effort unless it’s to get rid of Homer Bailey. Then again, Bailey will probably have an outstanding year for the Dodgers…

  10. Bill j

    Does anyone remember the song ” to much talk, not enough action”?

    • Scott C

      I believe it is “a little less and a little more action.”

  11. Michael Hutton

    I sure hope the Reds aren’t stupid enough to give up on the best clubhouse guy(bye Billy) and bring in one of the worst in Puig. No amount of offense can offset poor defense and clubhouse cancer….

  12. Michael Hutton

    I sure hope the Reds aren’t stupid enough to give up on the best clubhouse guy(bye Billy) and bring in one of the worst in Puig. No amount of offense can offset poor defense and clubhouse cancer….

  13. big5ed

    I don’t really get the fit here, especially if the Dodgers are offering up one-year rentals. Maybe there is some financial engineering that works for both teams, but other than perhaps the Dodgers wanting Gennett, I don’t get it from a baseball perspective. If Puig explodes for a big year in Cincinnati, then it would be a stretch to believe he would re-sign with the Reds.

    As to Bailey, he has 10-and-5 rights, and would have to agree to the trade. With the elimination of the deduction for state and local income tax, and with a semi-educated guess on the details, Bailey would be out at least $600,000 after tax (and probably $1,000,000) with the move from Ohio to California. (The top tax rate in California is 13%, and a Dodger would play at least 99 games in California.) Why would Homer agree to give up $1,000,000 after tax, not even considering the extra cost of housing, etc. and hassle of moving to LA for 6 months?

    And if the Dodgers think that the Reds prospects are so good that they are willing to take on some or all of Homer’s $28 million, then those prospects should hold equal or more value to the Reds. Where is the urgency to give up valuable prospects? Suffering through four straight 94+ losing seasons is a big price to pay just to ditch Homer’s contract and to give up the prospect haul earned from the fallow years.

  14. BigRedMike

    The Reds are going to have to figure out what to do with Homer. This is at least an option. I guess it depends on what prospects the Reds part with.
    If Puig is a one year player, at least the Reds could to the Qualifying Offer and get a draft pick if he refuses.
    Bellinger would be a great addition. The Reds would not be that left hand dominate once Gennett is gone, which needs to happen.

    Lynn would be a good signing for the Reds, his second half last year was very solid.

    • big5ed

      I see no downside to waiting until the end of spring training to decide what to do with Homer. Maybe he’s changed his training regimen over the winter; maybe Derek Johnson can help him; maybe he can get back some command. Stranger things have happened, although not very often.

      If Homer isn’t any better by late March, then the Reds can just release him. I can’t see why another team would make a legitimate offer for him in the off-season, especially with his right to veto any trade. So, the Reds may as well wait until the back half of spring training to make the decision.

      • BigRedMike

        That is not a bad approach and the likely scenario. Best case Homer can be the 5 and give the Reds a mid 4 ERA.

        I agree, I cannot believe a team would offer anything for Homer. The Dodgers would do it to buy prospects and eat Homers salary.

  15. BigRedMike

    Happ going back to the Yankees
    Not much left for the Reds to acquire pitching wise. Not sure the Reds will be able to get Keuchel.

    • BigRedMike

      Keuchel was not in the Yankees plans, but, it does take one team out of the running.

      In his last 11 appearances in 2018, Lynn produced 2.1 WAR, 10K/9, a 47% GB rate, and a 3.03 xFIP.

      Lynn was actually better than Keuchel in the 2nd half.

      Lynn is not a top of the line starter, but, would be a good addition for a modest salary.

      A trade with the Indians seems the best option at this point. Get rid of Gennett and some of the higher prospects and get Bauer or Kluber

    • DHud

      Or maybe the front office is doing their job and thoroughly analyzing the market? Maybe the reds FO determined what Happ was worth and passed when he demanded more?

      But no, obviously your consistent nay-saying of the Reds in competency is the only reasonable explanation

  16. TyGuy85

    I am going to be mightily dissapointed if the Reds don’t get atleast one bonafide starting pitcher.

  17. Tom Mitsoff

    On Wednesday afternoon, tweets from the national writers indicated that these talks are still ongoing. It is referred to as a deal of high contracts: Bailey on the Reds side, and Matt Kemp, Yasiel Puig and Alex Wood all mentioned from the LA side.

    For the record, here are the contracts of these players:

    Bailey: $23 million in 2019, $5 million buyout in 2020
    Kemp: $21.5 million in 2019
    Puig: 2019 is third arbitration year (expected salary is around $11 million)
    Wood: 2019 also third arbitration year (expected salary around $9 million)

    All four will be free agents after 2019 season, presuming Bailey is bought out for $5 million.

    John Fay points out in tweet this afternoon that Braves took an injured Bronson Arroyo and his $8 million contract from Arizona in 2015 to get a prospect. In an article, he points out that Puig and Wood for Bailey (and a prospect) would reduce the Reds’ payroll, allowing them to possibly make other moves. Meanwhile, in an accounting exercise, Bailey would count $17.5 million against the Dodgers in computations for their competitive balance tax payment, which they are seeking to reduce. Removing Puig and Wood and plugging in Bailey’s $17.5 million would meet the Dodgers’ need for accounting maneuvering.

    Bailey has the right to reject any trade since he is a 10-and-5 player. The Dodgers presumably are asking for a specific prospect or prospects from the Reds to complete the deal. Fay says he would take Senzel, Trammell and Greene off the board and offer LA anyone else in the system.

  18. Matthew

    Reports say that Happ is signing with the Yankees.