Bill Lack and I got together again to discuss the Cincinnati Reds. The overarching question: given the managerial and coaching hires, and the reports that the Reds are very active in free agent and trade discussions, are we really seeing a new direction for the Reds, a more aggressive team that is serious about winning now?

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11 Responses

  1. JoshG

    Jon Heyman of Fancred Sports reports that James Paxton and Sonny Gray are the “main focus” for the Reds as they seek rotation upgrades.
    Heyman notes that they’ve talked to the Indians about Corey Kluber and Carlos Carrasco, as well. The Reds have also been connected to the big free agent starter arms, as well, as it’s clear they’ve intent on giving their rotation a shot in the arm this offseason. Paxton has been a popular trade target early on this winter, with the Yankees and Astros among the clubs also showing interest. Gray is a shoo-in to be dealt this offseason and would be reunited with former college pitching coach Derek Johnson in Cincinnati.
    Related: Reds, Sonny Gray
    Nov 16 – 1:41 PM

    • Old-school

      Reports are the Yankees are mulling multiple offers for Gray. If the Reds are intent on keeping Scooter Gennett , Shed Long has no role.

      Hamilton and Long for Gray as the principals would makes sense. Unloading Hamilton’ s salary would be almost revenue neutral based on arbitration projections.

      Johnson could also get involved early with Gray’s off-season program. This makes too much sense. Redsfest coming up. The Reds need a big splash.

      • JoshG

        Im not a huge Fan Of Gray, but I’d be happy with him if they still were going after one of the others (free agent or trade)

      • Old-school

        It’s very unlikely the Reds win in 2019. They can’t blow up the rebuild by trading top 5 guys or commiting 4-5 years at 80-100 million.
        Gray gives them a cost friendly change of scenery proven guy with strong ties to Johnson. They could then sign a mid rotation FA at 2 years 20-30 million.

        FA mid tier

        Reed and Ramono and Mahle and Santillan get another year to evaluate their ceiling and starting potential. ..Johnson gets Bailey for spring training to evaluate.

        Senzel, Trammell, Green, Santillan ,India stay and 2020/21/22 are still better than 2019.

    • Tom Mitsoff

      Commenter on said he heard on ESPN Radio in Dayton that discussions with Yankees for Gray have included Alex Blandino and Jeter Downs. That alone is not going to get it done, if there is indeed any truth to it.

  2. Bill

    I don’t understand the desire to trade for Gray or any other guy with one year of control, unless it is just swapping out guys with no future with the Reds. Giving up any prospect seems like a waste or resources unless there is some sort of agreement of an extension already in place. Definitely don’t give up any top prospects for a rental player in a year where you probably don’t compete. If the team wins 86 games next year then take the risk of trading prospects to upgrade the rotation

  3. davemoorewvu

    Plus he briefly played quarterback for the mighty WVU Mountaineers!

  4. Alex

    The reds are so thin on high end position players, i really think that cute 3 weeks fooled ppl into thinking thry are close. The bench is a mess, there is still no back up SS, one injury and the OF is a mess as well. Votto declining, peraza below average, the epic barnhart second half tank, what if gennetts balky shoulder finally gives out and you trade senzel for a pitcher? Disco proved the assumption that if he was healthy he’d be good wrong. Just bad.

    The NL is loaded with young talent and rich teams. Cause they never actually let any young guys pitch the last three years we know more about arroyo and adelman then we do the young guys. They don’t know if they are 1 pitcher or 5 pitchers away.

    I’d respect them more if they held a presser and said they have realized the epic and disasterous decisions from the start of the rebuild and that they have made great hires, are finally going to modernize and are going to build around Suarez, Senzel and Trammell. The reds are going to have to develop their own players and use assets to make savvy trades to b competitive. That’s the truth of the matter. Tier 1 FA pitchers arent signing here, they just arent and trading away young cost controlled high end talent now for a pitcher so you can be .500 maybe next year is a huge mistake. Finally be honest with your fan base about just how dumb you have been and you promise to be better and maybe they will respect it but drastic overpays and steep trades for this thin roster is a mistake. Rant over.

    • Old-school

      Nice post.
      The current 39 man roster cant win 90+ games or pass theCubs/ Brewers. The Cards are going to dwarf whatever the Reds do in signing and trading- and that’s ok this year.

      Kudos to the Reds for making some solid needed change. I will give this new FO and coaching staff the benefit of the doubt.

      But. Raisel Iglesias, Luis Castillo and maybe Jared Hughes are the only 3 proven healthy pitchers in 2019. Votto, Suarez, and Gennett are the only proven hitters and Barnhart is a proven catcher. That’s only 7 players in the organization rock solid for 2019.

      Winker, Senzel ,and Schebler should be solid hitters assuming health. That’s 10.
      Peraza Lorenzen Garrett and Hernandez should contribute positively. That’s 14.

      Lots of optimism for 5-8 other guys assuming health and growth and lots of optimism for yet to be named 2 FA veteran pitchers….. But its nowhere near enough.

      Reds fest is coming. The Reds are absolutely gearing up the PR ticket drive for 2019. But, look at the roster. Look at Sox .dodgers Yankees Astros nationals Rockies.

      It’s 2020.Stay the course. Interesting that Scooter Gennett is not coming to Redsfest with prior plans . Look at the roster.

  5. lost11found

    Subject of Going to ST was brought up in Podcast and my family and I can highly recommend it as we were there about 2 years ago. Nice facility in Goodyear and it was fun to go to minor league game in afternoon and see a few major league guys getting some extra AB’s, chat with Eric Davis and met Taylor Sparks grandparents. Attended a night game and got a picture of my kids with George Foster.

    Several facilities all around phoenix so you don’t have to time it for a set of home games. We attended a road game at the Brewers’ Maryville facility and it was a nice venue too (day game, 1B line seating required). Most places then would let you bring in empty water/sports bottles for filling at water fountains too.

    If its a family trip, set aside some non-baseball sightseeing time too, Phoenix zoo is a good visit and many other zoos share an arrangement with them to discount admission if you are a memeber at your ‘home’ zoo. We plan to see grand canyon next time we go.

    Bring your patience though and give yourself some extra travel time, as the traffic can be sticky in spots, but that was the worse thing about the trip.

  6. Abdul

    I disagree…I don’t see any hope of Dick Williams leading the red’s. The red’s will continue to be cellar dwellers until they get new ownership