Dick Williams just talked to reporters about the status of the manager search:

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  1. alex

    Junior Guerra, Jhoulys Chacin, Wade Miley, Edwin Jackson, Brett Anderson, and Mike Fiers are pitching the Brewers and A’s to the playoffs. Manager seems irrelevant right now. Go find a pitcher, Dick.

    • Drew

      I’d actually argue that your list shows that organizational philosophy and coaching is exceedingly important, as all of those pitchers are somewhere between ‘almost fine’ and ‘objectively terrible.’ Milwaukee and Oakland both have a holistic approach to pitching and in-game strategy that’s light years from where the Reds currently are, and that approach allows them to do more with less than virtually anyone else. We need pitching, to be sure. But along with that, we need forward thinking people at the controls who can squeeze the most potential out of whoever’s on the roster.

    • Westfester

      I really wouldn’t want to stake my playoff life on one of those arms in the wild card game. Brewers are going to regret not improving their starting pitching.

  2. David

    OK, that’s funny. But this list kind of looks like a predicate to rubber stamping Jimmy Fundamentals as the next manager.
    Really, why CAN’T the Reds do something to embrace advanced player and team metrics? Riggleman won’t be a disaster, but he won’t be successful either.

    Old school is the best school, I guess (facepalm). Playing the game the right way (either in the voice of George Grande or Darth Vader, one of those).

    A few years ago, Chris Welch interviewed Craig Counsel, and he gave a very good, simple and concise answer as to why applying advanced metrics to players matters. You get the most out of your contract and payroll dollars, which is why it is so important for small and medium sized market teams to be able to use them to compete.

    I think Dick Williams knows, but Castellini doesn’t pay much attention to him, and Dick knows it. If they did think this way, Billy Hamilton would be LONG gone. And perhaps our evaluations of pitchers and their ML talent ceiling would be further along, and we still wouldn’t be mired in this miasma of “rebuild!” kabuki theater.

    • David

      Just for a moment of solace. Barry Larkin does not embrace advanced metrics either. He is totally old school in his analysis of the game. Barry is a smart guy, but he is also a stubborn guy.

  3. jeffery stroupe

    Farrell will be next manager. Figured out that one when he got the job he has now.

  4. Tom Mitsoff

    Just for the sake of discussion, what if Buck Showalter is fired from Baltimore? Should he be interviewed?

  5. Jack

    Can you imagine if he manages the same way he coaches 3rd? He has no idea what he is doing at 3rd.

  6. Timmy RedLeg

    I read somewhere today that DW also stated that the org preferred a Manager with previous managerial experience. So, I guess that means no David Ross. He is a guy I’d like to see manage.

    • Jeff Reed

      If so, Farrell will get the job.

  7. roger garrett

    I don’t see this team going outside to hire anybody to manage this club primarily because who would want it under the present situation.Think about it because its no secret to the rest of the league how its done in Cincy.They want a guy that’s already on board so as not to rock the boat.Sure I would like to have Buck or any other experienced guy but its not going to happen.In reality unless they look at doing something with this roster,starting with trading from a surplus to fill some holes,it doesn’t matter who is the manager.You must show a commitment to winning to attract a good manager and the Reds haven’t done that.

  8. roger garrett

    I hope your right but smart and the Reds well just haven’t gone together in the same sentence very often for a long time.

  9. Timmy RedLeg

    I don’t know. There’s only 30 of those jobs. I can’t imagine, someone who wants to manage, would turn down the opportunity. I don’t doubt there are more desirable destinations, but I think if you want to manage next season, & the Cincinnati Reds offer you the job, you take it.

  10. Scott C

    The only thing I didn’t hear was that they were interviewing outside candidates. That kind of made me shivers. I have nightmares of Riggleman managing for the next couple of years and bunting every inning.

  11. cupofcoffee1955

    Barry Larkin is a smart man. He does not want to manage this hot mess. Tell C. Trent he needs to spell John Farrell’s name correctly because he will probably be the next Reds’ Manager.

  12. Mark Lang

    Any manager signing on with this group is playing Russian Roulette with his career with a gun that has a magazine.

  13. Gfelt

    We all know if Walt has anything to do with it, Mike Matheny will prob be our guy

  14. Ghettotrout1

    I’m pretty sure that you can’t actually interview any external candidates that are still in season correct? So this story shouldn’t really tell you anything. Everyone wanted them to interview 459 candidates to get a good talent pool to choose from, so I mean the more interviews the more we should be happy right? Again I will echo what I’ve said in the past the team will not be good even if we traded Mike Trout for Billy straight up and we had the best manager in the majors. They need to sign 2 legit starters (Keuchel, Corbin, Morton) and then probably trade for one more (Degrom, MadBum) to actually be a real playoff threat. The manager and the position players are not going to move the needle. Plus lets be honest we have zero idea what rando dudes from other organizations they should interview and we have no idea that Billy Hatcher doesn’t sleep with a copy of Bill James under his pillow. He could love analytics and forward thinking….. I mean highly unlikely but I’m just saying.

  15. Bill j

    GFELT, my thought too. You noticed the Reds done interviews in Miami and Walt was there to do them.