A young pitcher struggled for the second consecutive night as Tyler Mahle gave up a 3-0 lead with a bad fourth inning. The Reds offense was shut down by the Giants bullpen and could not muster a comeback, starting another losing streak.
|Cincinnati RedsÃ‚Â (14-29)||3||7||0|
|San Francisco GiantsÃ‚Â (22-21)||5||11||1|
|W: Johnson (2-1)Ã‚Â L:Ã‚Â Mahle (3-5)Ã‚Â S:Ã‚Â Strickland (9)|
FanGraphs Win ProbabilityÃ‚Â |Ã‚Â Box Score
The Reds got on the board first with some help from the Giants usually stingy defense. Jesse Winker hit a two-out grounder to second base which was bobbled, allowing Winker to reach. Eugenio Suarez took advantage and launched a bomb to the left field seats to give the Reds a 2-0 lead.
Billy Hamilton came through in the fourth with an RBI-single to score Tony Cruz and increase the lead to 3-0. Hamilton was then picked up trying to steal second to end the inning.
Tyler Mahle allowed baserunners in both the first and second innings but was able to work his way out without any damage. He did however, run his pitch count up pretty high, throwing 42 pitches in the first two frames. He settled in a bit in the third with a 1-2-3 inning.
The fourth inning was when the real trouble started for Mahle, who allowed a leadoff dinger to Brandon Belt which made its way to McCovey Cove. After back to back singles to get runners to first and second, Jackson drove a ball to right field that was hit just hard to enough to have the lead runner hold at third, though he took quite a long turn and was almost thrown out trying to get back to the bag.
With bases loaded and no outs, Mahle got a huge strikeout which forced Bruce Bochy’s hand and drove Ty Blach from the game so that Pablo Sandoval could pinch hit. That proved to be the right call as Pablo drilled a ground ball right past Suarez into left to plate two runners and tie the game at 3-3. Mahle’s night was done. Not his strongest outing by any means, but there will be nights like this for young pitchers. He remains only 23 years old.
Amir Garrett came on in relief and allowed another run to score after a bases loaded grounder from McCutcheon as the Reds just missed turning two to end the inning . That would be all the damage in the fourth, but all it still gave the Giants the lead, 4-3.
Garrett had another strong outing and this time was able to get some extended time, hopefully lengthening out for another audition as a starter, but we wont hold our breath. 2.2 innings, two hits and four strikeouts. He threw 44 pitches.
No more scoring in this one until the Giants got an insurance run off of David Hernandez in the eighth inning.
The Reds were only able to collect two baserunners off of the Giants bullpen and never threatened to tie the game. What started off as a promising 3-0 lead fizzled into another close loss for your Redlegs.
Other Game Notes:
- Eugenio Suarez walked in the first inning and was advanced by a Scooter Gennett single. Suarez overran second base and rolled his ankle as he was lunging back towards the base. He was checked out and allowed to stay in the game. He showed he was fine by crushing two more baseballs tonight. He walked once as well.
- Peraza made a nice play in the first to nail McCutcheon on a grounder up the middle and followed that up in the third with a jumping snag to catch a line drive. Chris Welsh said it best that an often overlooked tool is a short memory. Peraza is young and will have bad games/innings like last night. Best he forget about it and keep moving forward.
- He did, however, go 0-4 as the leadoff hitter.
- Winker made a nice catch with two outs in the fifth to prevent another run from scoring.
- Joey Votto pinch hit in the ninth inning, which is certainly a good sign. He struck out to end the game.
- Winker, Duvall and Schebler combined for an 0-12 night.
- My power went out right around first pitch so I was playing catch up the entire time once it came back on. It was really nice watching live and skipping ahead 10 seconds between each pitch. It was not nice watching the Reds lose, though.
The Reds will look to avoid the sweep tomorrow in the getaway game at 3:45PM EST. Matt Harvey will take the mound and look to build on his strong first start. Good night from the West Cost and go Redlegs.
I strongly believe that it doesnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t make sense to keep Romano and Mahle in the bigs, send them to AAA until they proof able to go at least 6/7 innings or three times through the line-up on a consistently basis. The rotation could be soon reshuffled with Harvey, DiSclafani, Bailey, Castillo and Garrett, for the time being.
I can see your point, but this would require Harvey to continue pitching well (huge question mark), DeSclafani staying healthy after he returns and being effective (even bigger question mark), and Garrett moving from the pen AND being effective/durable as a starter.
A week ago, most people seemed to be feeling pretty encouraged by Ramano and Mahle. They are young and will struggle at times, but personally I don’t think those guys (especially Mahle) have anything left to prove at the AAA level.
You are asking for a unicorn with Ramano and Mahle. Less that 25 guys pitched enough innings to qualify for ERA title yet u want two guys to pitch in the minors until it’s a guarantee they can go 7 every time?
Your expectations are dumb. Johnny Cueto didn’t average 6+ innings until his 4th season in the majors. Homer Bailey didn’t do it until his fifth season. This is a really common thing for pitchers making the leap to the majors. You don’t learn to put away MLB hitters pitching in AAA.
CanÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t wait for the trades that will bring in more awesome pitching prospects….
They will have some stinkers but in my opinion they learn nothing in the minors on how to get big league hitters out.Even if you are good in the minors most all guys struggle when they come up to the majors.Its about adjustments and it takes time.Give them the ball every 5th day and lets see what happens.If it were me I would have Garrett starting and I would have Bob called up and starting as well.Yes that would mean 5 young guys with the rest backing them up in the pen.Keep the bus gassed up to Louisville and lets see where each one of these guys are in September.Then we would know much much more then we know now and may just have a couple of them or maybe more that we can count on next year and beyond.Yes it will be painful but not any more then the last 4 years and if you aren’t competing for a championship then who cares.Somewhere Chuck Shick is saying yep 90 losses or a few more or few less don’t make much difference its still losing.This innings limit stuff and service time stuff and up and down to the minors stuff is just stuff.Let them pitch.Harvey goes today and what does that do for this team?Nothing.Nothing.Nothing.Thanks for allowing me to vent.
So you aren’t driving the Peraza bandwagon no more?
Um, no. Suarez was late getting it out of his glove and then threw it at Scooter’s ankles. The turn was as quick as could be given the circumstances.
Scooter’s 2 hits were a testament to the notion that hitting is a skill. His ability to go oppo or pull the ball based on pitch location (not speed) is why his numbers are so good. His bat can find the ball, with Duvall it’s like the ball has to find his bat….if that makes sense.
I can’t believe how much grief a guy who’s gonna post another 3+ win season gets……especially for the money he’s getting.
It is not that difficult to understand when one of the top prospects in baseball plays the same position.
An awful team like the Reds are just going to make no effort to utilize their assets in the best possible manner?
If Gennett is clearly a break through 2B, then the Reds should be looking to trade Senzel and Herrera and Long to improve other positions.
….and Country Joe West. There were a handful of pitches at the top of the zone where he lives that weren’t getting called strikes despite being strikes on the tracker. They said on the broadcast he’s battling a chest infection. Props for even showing up.
Ah, I did miss that. I was jumping ahead after Mahle got pulled and got to bases loaded with the same score so I didn’t bother rewinding to watch how it happened.
Votto’s remarks in his age 34 season could be an indicator the no trade clause has been weakened and he wants some playing years with a team ready to contend. A trade could be good for both parties depending on who the Reds would acquire.
Hr isnt going anywhere where with that salary and the Reds would be dumber than I think they are. They would have to pay a big chunk and still not get a decent prospect. They might as well keep him .
Exactly. And looking at the amount of fans in the stands , he is correct about the fans losing interest. I hope every game ends up with nobody in the stands. The Front Office is still making money but they could be making a whole lot more. To me that’s a bad business man. You want to fill that stadium every game and by doing that, you have to put a good product on the field. Which they don’t because they are cheap.
jack – they aren’t losing because they’re cheap. Pittsburgh has a fraction of the Reds payroll and they are performing pretty well. Miami has half the reds payroll and a slightly better record. It’s the poor decisions from not addressing outfield shortcomings and signing Homer long term and Votto to his huge contract and hiring a terrible manager two years too long. Poor drafting hurts too. Not getting enough for Chapman, Frazier, Cueto, Bruce, dat dude.