The official Reds Twitter account @Reds has followed on the announcement of Bryan Price’s replacement as Reds manager with a series of Tweets featuring quotes from GM Dick Williams and interim manager Jim Riggleman.

The theme of the day is that this is a time for urgency; and, the team should must not be comfortable with the current state of affairs.

Interim Manager Jim Riggleman spoke to his marching orders.

Williams also acknowledged there is blame enough to go around

And finally Williams had this to say about the search for the Reds new “permanent” manager.

Urgency, distaste for losing and attention to detail all sound very good. They are needed qualities many of us have felt were lacking from the Reds efforts so far this season.

For me it is also a positive sign that apparently the managerial search will be more open and comprehensive than when Bryan Price was hired.

On the other hand I find myself wondering if we really have witnessed a first step of change and progress toward breaking the team out of the cycle of losing it has been mired in since 2014; or, have we  merely experienced a shuffling of the deck chairs?

What do you think?  How could the team convince you real change was happening?


10 Responses

  1. Alex

    Strip everything down to the studs. Iglesias, Scooter, Duvall, Schebler, Hamilton, Mes….trade em all. You’re not going to win anything with this bunch. #BlowItUp

  2. scottya

    How could the team convince me that real change is…?

    1. Make significant upgrades at SS and CF, likely offseason of 19′.
    2. Find a #2 starter in the offseason.
    3. Find a way to create more payroll space for the above needs (Trade Bham, Scooter, keeping options open for trading Homer)
    4. Hire a manager that is TOTALLY, bought into the use of anayltics in managing and that is NOT apparently Barry Larkin.
    5. Ensure that the new interim manager plays Blandino and gives Garrett a long look as a starter.
    6. Keep Nick Senzel in AAA until June 2+ and keep evaluating him as a SS.
    7. Be preparing now to move on from the Jose Peraza at SS scenario.

    I’m sure there are lots of other things that other commenters will come up with. But these are at the top.

  3. Jim Shoe

    The firings will continue until the play and morale improves. Could be years. Just saying

  4. eric3287

    It finally dawned on me what has been holding this team back for 4 years; Bob hates losing too much. I know that seems counter intuitive; he’s provided over some of the worst seasons in Reds history. But at the beginning of every season, from 2014-2018 if you squinted hard enough and nothing went wrong you could see an 80 win team. That’s what Bob needed. So he didn’t trade Cozart prior to the 2017 season, nor in the middle of it, still hoping for everything to break right. He was willing to trade Cozart or Duvall or Billy, but only if the return would help that year’s team. And lets be honest, no team in playoff contention is going to trade for Cozart if it means giving up a valuable part of the team.

    So what I want to see is the Reds to trade anyone performing better than expected who will not be in their prime in 3-5 years. That will show me that things have actually changed.

  5. mlblogsthesuperdave

    I feel that bringing Price back after last season and then firing him now doesn’t instill confidence that Williams and front office has a plan or know what they are doing. They seem to almost make it up as they go along. Thus the continuous rebuild that never goes anywhere.

  6. Sliotar


    “Real change” would involve something that you brought up here initially and I don’t think is examined enough, anywhere in the Reds blogosphere/media/fandom/whatever:

    Dick Williams is not qualified to be the general manager of a MLB team in 2018, and desperately (IMO) needs an assistant GM from a winning organization to help with his learning curve. The adding of a quality Asst. GM would also mean the removal of Walt Jocketty from hanging around the club.

    That is real change that should pay dividends and speed up in realizing the Next Good Reds Team.

    To further the point…..

    While driving for work late morning, I heard Rosecrans on MLB Radio. He said Williams AND Jocketty visited Price and Jenkins in Milwaukee and told them that they were fired.

    How is Williams supposed to gain respect within the Reds organization, let alone with other GMs and baseball people everywhere, if he is still in Jocketty’s shadow?

    All the “urgency” crap is just that. Crap. Pandering to fans that the Reds are on top of it.

    Not a surprise that the Dodgers/Astros/Cubs all went and poached successful executives from other MLB teams to make the moves to get them to the World Series. Money certainly helps, but having an experienced GM is virtually a minimum requirement for success in MLB in 2018.

  7. Mike Adams

    Others have commented above about whether those words were platitudes or pandering to the fans.
    I am looking for a much sooner indication that Williams and Riggleman meant those words: tonight and rest of the series with the Cads, oops I mean the Cards.
    As in no mental mistakes, field and bench players into the game, not giving up outs by bunting except in extremely rare circumstances, not going by the book so much, etc.
    Essentially doing more of what followers of RLN have identified over the last few years.
    This would give me hope that the longer term things you guys identified above will happen.

    • VRF

      I agree. I think the next two series are very important to set the tone for both the players and the fans.

      1) Start Blandino.
      2) Billy Hamilton batting 9th forever more. No ambiguity. He knows it, we know it and for heaven sakes reign in Thom and Chris…no way they should be pushing for Billy Hamilton to play every day and go back to leading off.
      3) Better use of the bullpen and Amir Garrett.
      4) Fire them up. I heard Riggleman can get fire-y…once threw chairs to make a point. 5) Hook the fans. Introduce us to the new coaches. Sounds like we may have gems in Kelly and Darwin. It would be nice if the fans can learn about them and especially their past relationships and successes with our younger players. Do a segment on Kelly wrestling with his players…losing to Winker time and again and being beaten by Senzel. Talk with the young pitchers and their relationship with Darwin-how important he has been to their development.
      6) Give the commentators a new and tougher boss. It’s a new day and if you can’t fire them, at least muzzle them a bit. Work with commentators regarding exactly how you want the change and the new coaches to be introduced and perceived. If it was me, I would sit down with them daily. Evaluate, set new goals. Stop the negativity now!! The negative judgements emoting from TV and radio sets the tone for the entire city. And they should not overly dwell on Price. Eyes on the present and future-not the past.

  8. Jeff Reed

    There’s nothing like winning to change the face of a team. That starts with attitude, so the Reds need somebody to step forward and be a leader. The desire to win has been absent from the current Reds. Votto is the natural choice and he is a HOF player and a gentleman of the first order, but a tough rah, rah demeanor does not come forth from Votto or any other current player like Reds fans saw years ago in Greg Vaughn and earlier in Kevin Mitchell and earlier still in Pete Rose. I think the FO has to go the trade route to acquire an offensive leader to help make the Reds again a hard-nosed team that is competitive in the next couple years.

  9. Phil

    What can the Reds do to convince me that change is happening?

    Play the young players as much as possible, but only where it makes sense to do so.

    For example: Alex Blandino has played in 271 games between AA and AAA and has been above average offensively (per wRC+) every year. He was brought up being potentially capable of playing 2B, 3B and SS. At 3B your starter (Suarez) had just been sent to the DL, at SS your starter has been struggling greatly at the plate (Peraza) and at 2B the starter (Gennett) has a massive platoon split that Blandino fits. Why wasn’t he starting every day at one of those spots?

    In contrast, Tanner Rainey and Zach Weiss had pitched a total of 20 and 30 innings above high-A ball at the time they were called up to the big league roster. Rainey is put into a 1-run game against the Phillies in the bottom of the eighth inning and gives up 4 runs. Weiss is put into a 1-run game against the Cardinals in the seventh inning and immediately gives up 4 runs. So he is followed by Rainey who gives up 3 more.

    So what can they do differently to show progress?
    Take your prospects who have had some success in AA and AAA, like Blandino, and give them as much MLB playing time as possible so that you can learn what they might provide in the future.
    Don’t take pitchers who have barely pitched above A-ball and immediately put them in high-leverage situations.