Baseball’s Winter Meetings started yesterday in Orlando. We’ll update Reds-related rumors from today on this thread. Check back during the day. If you see a report we haven’t included yet, post it in the comments and we’ll add it.

Starting with a couple reports from the West Coast:

10:25 pm (12/11): This column by Susan Slusser, a terrific baseball reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle, lists Adam Duvall as a player the Oakland A’s have interest in, along with other outfielders.

11 pm (12/11): Yesterday, the San Francisco Giants were linked to interest in Billy Hamilton and Duvall. Chronicle reporter Henry Schulman suggests that the development of Giants prospect Steven Duggar in the Fall League makes acquisition of a centerfielder, like Hamilton, less necessary. San Francisco may look for a short-term “caretaker” CF to hold the job until Duggar is ready, possibly the 2018 season.

To me, that sounds like a reason the Giants won’t sign Lorenzo Cain to a pricey 3-year contract. Billy Hamilton has two more seasons before he’s a free agent.

10 am: It’s Luis Castillo’s birthday. Reminder of a trade that went pretty well for the Reds last January.

11 am: Zach Buchanan tweets that a team asked about Nick Senzel.

12:30 pm: Guess we’ll have to settle for news on former Reds for now. Jon Heyman reporting that several teams interested in Jay Bruce, who is a free agent. Mets, Rockies, Blue Jays and Mariners among them. I figured Cleveland would try to get Bruce back. Teams looking for power at corner outfield could trade for Adam Duvall and get a younger, less expensive player.

1:05 pm: Joel Sherman of the New York Post says Yankees looking for 2B. Preferably not expensive and hits LH. Scooter Gennett is a perfect fit for that. Sherman also reports in a different tweet that clubs believe the Marlins will trade both OF, Ozuna and Yelich.

2:10 pm: Serious question, would you trade Nick Senzel straight up for Christian Yelich? Yelich is under contract through 2021 plus a $15 million team option in 2022 (age 30 season).

2:15 pm: Ken Rosenthal says Reds continue to draw interest on OF. Clearing a spot for Winker, which makes sense.

3:15 pm: BREAKING: Talks between Reds and Giants regarding Billy Hamilton are “serious” and could be finished this week. Other teams, including Rangers still involved. Zach Buchanan with the big scoop. See separate thread.

23 Responses

  1. scottya

    We now know what prospects the Marlins like so, although Hamilton and Duvall probably won’t yield all 3??: 1. Tyler Beede 2. Heliot Ramos 3. Chris Shaw. Swap them + in a Three team deal for Yelich.

    If we add Yelich at CF (4war). 40+ war as a team is possible if all are healthy in 18′ (see fangraphs 2018 zips Projections) We are appx 32-36 right now.

    • Ernie Howerton

      Not trying to be disrespectful but HOF in what league?

      • Scott Carter

        My thoughts as well. I think Duvall is a solid player. But future HOF sounds a little like hyperbole.

  2. IndyRedMan

    Would Cain cost any more then Cozart? 15 HRs and an .803 ops isn’t overwhelming so I’m thinking $45 mil/ 3yrs? Yelich is younger and cheaper but he’d prob cost Stephenson or Mahle, etc, etc? Cain is a WS champion coming off a career high opb of .363. He’ll be 32 next year, but kind of reminds me of Torii Hunter and he was good til he was 38! He’s good defensively and might pull off 20/20 in Cincinnati. KC is a pitchers paradise. Mesoraco will be off the books after this year and they’d trade Billy so the budget wouldn’t be too crazy. Ozuna would be the big haul so prob Cubs or St. Louis:(

    • Michael Smith

      I dont know if they return the call without Mahle and Trammel nor should they.

  3. davemoorewvu

    Listening to MLB Network Radio.. They’re under the belief that we are years away from competing, and that we should trade Votto for prospects. I refuse to believe that we are that far away. Maybe I’m blinded by being a fan, but I really think if the right moves were made, we could compete in 2018.

    • TR

      It’s always been that way. The Cincinnati Reds are under the radar until they win.

  4. Ethan L

    Please trade Duvall and BHam! While they’re at it, ship out Scooter, and shop Schebler. I hope they make these deals.

  5. scottya

    Someone asked about Senzel and the GM said ummm no. This just lets us know DW is shopping for the BIG FISH!

  6. IndyRedMan

    Good stuff!! I cannot believe Miami gave out that many bad contracts? You should be forced out by MLB if you’re that stupid? Nobody even cares about baseball in south Florida? Long term though….couldn’t they pay Ozuna with Homer’s $? Yelich is a nice player, but the damage Ozuna could do in GABP would be staggering!!

  7. PDunc

    What could a trade for Yelich and Castro look like? Is there anyway that the Reds fit both in their payroll? Would take 2 big contracts off the Marlin’s books and fill the Reds needs at CF and SS. Castro would also add another right-handed bat to the Reds lineup.
    Suarez, Winker, Senzel, and Castillo are untouchable. Offer Trammel + young pitching as a start.
    Even offer Trammel + Greene. Both are high upside prospects the Marlins would want. But timeline for either doesn’t exactly match up with the current Reds core.

  8. Tom Mitsoff

    You don’t trade him if you believe he could be one of the next great MLB hitters, and apparently Dick Williams does.

  9. Tom Mitsoff

    I agree with your analysis and insight. This is one instance where I would make just about anyone the Marlins want to talk about except for Senzel, Votto, Castillo and Barnhart open for discussion in a package involving Yelich. And, yes, I think they will require taking back a bad contract. But for four (and possibly five) years control of a player who has performed like Yelich has, you bring out the big guns and see what you can make happen.

  10. scottya

    No way I would trade Senzel! I would trade Hunter Greene however for Yelich. Senzel is a lock, in my opinion. Greene may be great, but a lot more risk.

  11. davemoorewvu

    Mark Sheldon is doing a Facebook love right now. He just said there’s zero chance that we trade for Yelich or Ozuna. Actually kinda laughed about it while answering the question.

  12. IndyRedMan

    Scooter is a hometown boy and could easily pull off Suarez/Yelich type ops vs righties, but everyone wants to trade him? I wouldn’t really be on board exactly, but I could see a fit with the Yankees for Chad Green or Tommy Kahnle. Of course trading for relievers is a crap shoot in itself but Iggy needs quality help!

  13. Muso

    Gennett for Clint Frazier and Chad Greene…

  14. Redhaze

    I just heard the Reds may be interested in Yovanni Gallardo. I would rather have Feldman back in the fifth spot of the rotation. 90 loss seasons are getting old fast. Lets lose the rebuild now.