We knew Luis Castillo was getting close to his innings limit, and now we know that Wednesday will be his last start of the 2017 season:

The Reds’ rotation will undergo another revision later this week, manager Bryan Price revealed on Tuesday. Exactly how it will change is unclear, for now, but Luis Castillo will be moved out and Amir Garrett will be moving in. Tyler Mahle could also be shut down after a couple of more starts and Sal Romano might get pushed back a day or two.

“We have a general idea, but it’s free-flowing,” Price said. “I don’t want to get too far into it because we haven’t talked to all the guys. It’s not a big deal. It’s just reshuffling the deck.”

Go read the entire piece.

If that’s the end of Castillo’s season, then everyone should be thrilled. What an incredible rookie campaign for a guy the Reds received in exchange for Dan Straily. The ceiling is the roof for Castillo.

The flip side of that equation is that Amir Garrett now has an opportunity to salvage something positive out of his own rookie season. Fingers crossed.

Of equal interest is this comment by Price:

“There’s a good chance you can see three of the four guys in the rotation at some point,” Price said. “How many starts we can get them, I don’t know. I can’t make a great commitment until we actually get them slotted in. When we get Castillo out and Mahle out, it will become a little bit clearer.”

Combine that, with this nugget from Price’s pre-game comments on Tuesday:

Then throw in the fact that Reed’s last two outings for Triple-A Louisville this year were short outings of three innings each. He started both games, but was removed after three innings, having allowed just one hit and no walks each time (his most effective outings in weeks).

The Reds haven’t stated anything definitively, as far as I can tell, but it certainly seems like Cody Reed — who was perhaps the Reds top pitching prospect as 2017 dawned — is thisclose to being cast into the bullpen, never to be heard from again.

20 Responses

  1. james garrett

    Reed’s stuff is better then Garrett’s or Rookie’s.All 3 have struggled throwing strikes but Reed has struggled more.

  2. citizen54

    Price already set back Stephenson’s development by keeping him in the bp for the first two months and now Reed is going to get the Chapman treatment. Meanwhile Rookie Davis gets another shot a starting. Ya giving Price one more year: not a wise move.

    • citizen54

      Thanks for proving my point. He wasn’t able to work on command coming out of the bull pen for one two innings a week. And the turning point was him working on his slider, not his command. He even said as much in an interview. He’s still walking a lot of guys.

      • boilermaker_red09

        Improving his command won’t do much good unless he learns to quit tipping his pitches.

      • citizen54

        I answered your question in the comment you replied to. If you are only facing 3 batters every week you aren’t really getting a large enough body of work to see if your command, or anything else is improving.

      • citzen54

        Where did I say anything about the roster? I was talking about usage. And I’m sure Price has some input into the roster.

    • citizen54

      What’s up with all these strawman arguments? Where did I blame Price for Stephenson not being able to throw strikes? Maybe, just maybe, Stephenson was able to throw more strikes after being given a regular opportunity.

  3. sandman

    Should’ve known it was Innings Limit. You know, I think I read right here on Redlegnation once, how this innings limit practice is inconclusive at best as to whether or not they work. If so, then why does it continue to be practiced? I don’t think I believe in this practice. Not sure though.

    • joshtrum

      A set innings limit is absolutely bunk, however, they have to(hopefully) have the ability to measure biomechanics and tell if a pitcher is fatiguing. To me, the worst thing a person can do, is play exhausted as it destroys there performance, then again Duvall….

  4. Ryan

    How has Garrett pitched any better to deserve the starts over Reed? Reed has had his issues with mechanics and command, but Garrett has struggled to find the strike zone himself. Seems a bit foolish to pigeonhole Reed into the bullpen. Maybe the next topic of debate will be #FreeReed.

    • IndyRedMan

      Garrett can change speeds. His starts in April were better then anything Reed has ever done. Of course it doesn’t help that Reed seems to face the Cubs every time he starts for the Reds? Bottom line…Reed is just too wild and lacks command. I’m thinking his role might be Tony Cingrani II? Just come out throwing 97 versus lefties preferably, and maybe a walk or 2 won’t hurt.

  5. bouwills

    I’m glad they’re shutting down Castillo after today. Maybe had they shut down Finnegan sooner last year …………… Anyway, looking forward to seeing Garrett & Davis in the rotation. Perhaps the plot thickens for the 2018 rotation.

    • IndyRedMan

      I still like Finnegan! 2.97 era in the 2nd half last year. I think he picked up something on his changeup from Dan Straily and made some strides.

  6. Nick Carrington

    If Reed isn’t one of those guys going to the rotation, then who are the three or four guys? Garrett obviously. Rookie Davis? Jackson Stephens? Neither inspired much confidence at AAA. Maybe they are just trying to fill some innings.

    I like both Davis and Stephens, but they are probably bullpen guys long term.

  7. TR

    Cody Reed will likely be traded and get it together with another team.

  8. citizen54

    Based upon Price’s comments regarding Reed, it looks like Davis and Stephens are going to be given chances before Reed, which is what I have been griping about. It just seems odd that they want to develop Davis and Stephens ahead of Reed.

    Like you I also have no problem with the top brass wanting to give Garrett the first shot since he is older than Reed and has a higher ceiling than Davis and Stephens.